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SmegB
Onyx Brotherhood STR8NGE BREW
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Posted - 2012.01.04 14:04:00 -
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That is probably the dumbest thing i have ever heard. |
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
34
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Posted - 2012.01.04 15:39:00 -
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I'm a badass pirate, I can fly a hulk, and I can use tech 2 mining drones.
Yes, I do have Daytrading to 4 and gallente industrial to v.. got a problem? undock and tell me that :3 |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
736
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Posted - 2012.01.04 15:55:00 -
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Palovana wrote:I'm assuming because some skills might get you ridiculed/rejected when applying to a PVP corp.
Something like: "You trained ICE HARVESTING to level V? GTFO!"
Any PVP corp with that attitude will just see perfectly good pilots going to their rivals because they think that if you didn't set out to do PVP in the first week of your Eve career, you clearly aren't as awesome as they are. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
736
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Posted - 2012.01.04 16:06:00 -
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Skydell wrote:If asked about why you trained mining skills, tell people you were training to be bait. Or, the truth:
I tried mining, found out it sucks, still have the skills.
My corp did a lot of mining stuff and I could afk mine while watching movies.
I lived in a wormhole where mining can actually be somewhat profitable if you can stand it.
There was a lot of time when I could be on Eve but not really pay attention to it all the time, so I trained some mining skills to afk mine and make extra isk.
Follow any of those with "got a problem with that?" and you're fine. |
Barkaial Starfinder
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2012.01.04 16:17:00 -
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Past is not to be erased . |
Sirinda
Offworld Miners and Fabricators Guild
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Posted - 2012.01.04 16:50:00 -
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I can't help but think this is some kind of elaborate attempt at trolling. If so, 8/10. |
Shivan Wraith
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.04 17:01:00 -
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Not a troll. I guess I have OCD. I just do not like seeing unused skills on my skillsheets and would have liked an option to remove some. If that takes a lot of time to code then forget it. If it was something simple and other were interested (which it seems most would rather qq) then I would have liked to see something implemented.
My biggest concern asking this was accidental skill deletions and the petitions that would ensue. (Which nobody brought up)
Yes CCP is loaded with a laundry list of things to do. Yes they are going in the right direction again. If you look at any expansion notes I'm sure most of you only cared about a handful of changes out of a thousand. I just wanted one of the next thousand to have that ability.
Flame away... |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
895
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Posted - 2012.01.04 17:01:00 -
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There are some skills I might want to erase without any refund - e.g. I have afterburner V on one of my accounts, yet for obvious reasons I'd want it lower.
If I had TSM V on any of my accounts, I'd remove that too as it only increases JC costs (luckily, I don't have it).
However, It was my improper planning at the time - I made the mistake, so I have to deal with the consequences. Eve used to be a game where decisions used to have an impact and I liked that fact. Reoccuring remaps are terrible already, so I'd rather deal with my mistake than seeing eve watered down further and further. morons- sting like a butterfly and-ápost like a bee. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
182
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Posted - 2012.01.04 17:21:00 -
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Kahega Amielden wrote:Quote:I'm assuming because some skills might get you ridiculed/rejected when applying to a PVP corp.
Something like: "You trained ICE HARVESTING to level V? GTFO!" Alternatively, you could join corps without pretentious assholes.
GTFO |
Halcyon Ingenium
Prometheus Research LLC
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Posted - 2012.01.04 17:27:00 -
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CausticS0da wrote:It's called OCD. This is pretty much it, that's what this is about. That which always was, and is, and will be everlasting fire, the same for all, the cosmos, made neither by god nor man, replenishes in measure as it burns away. -Heraclitus |
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Something Random
The Barrow Boys
114
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Posted - 2012.01.04 18:46:00 -
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Mara Tessidar wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote: Clones are not mandatory. If you don't buy one all you loose is...
OP I think I may have solved your problem.
Your presence in this thread is outstanding.
The first comment was outstanding. "caught on fire a little bit, just a little." "Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangsn++ all here!" |
Velarra
Ghost Festival Naraka.
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Posted - 2012.01.04 18:53:00 -
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I'd go for this asap. I have no desire for any sp refund on skills i'd remove, simply pure deletion of skills from sheet.
Some were never wanted, were forced at creation and are not required at all for the way i choose to play eve.
Yes, it's purely about aesthetics. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
893
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Posted - 2012.01.04 19:06:00 -
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While I would prefer the option to be able to pay ISK or even AUR for partial SP refund, I don't see any reason why an option to simply delete skills would hurt anybody. Again...if you don't want to use the feature...don't use it. Unfortunately you would still have people rage over it anyway...idiots...
At the very least an option to delete skills given at character creation. Those shouldn't be refundable anyway. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2012.01.04 19:47:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:While I would prefer the option to be able to pay ISK or even AUR for partial SP refund, I don't see any reason why an option to simply delete skills would hurt anybody. Again...if you don't want to use the feature...don't use it. Unfortunately you would still have people rage over it anyway...idiots...
At the very least an option to delete skills given at character creation. Those shouldn't be refundable anyway.
because you know that when you go to delete that "useless" Gallente Battleship skill, you're really gonna end up deleting "Amarr Titan" (which happens to be L5, no less) and then rage all over the forums about how it's not fair that they let you delete that skill and you should be reimbursed the 5bn ISK you just trashed ... |
ShipToaster
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Posted - 2012.01.04 19:55:00 -
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Is the only skill worth deleting not the afterburner duration one as it can affect PvP because you cant dual prop as well as a toon without this skill?
I would like to delete that one from the game or swap it to an afterburner cap reduction one (or double the cost and effect if their is already an ab cap reduction skill because I think there might be but cant be bothered checking). Gosh CCP are so darn nice and CCP Guard is the best of all... |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
894
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Posted - 2012.01.04 19:59:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:While I would prefer the option to be able to pay ISK or even AUR for partial SP refund, I don't see any reason why an option to simply delete skills would hurt anybody. Again...if you don't want to use the feature...don't use it. Unfortunately you would still have people rage over it anyway...idiots...
At the very least an option to delete skills given at character creation. Those shouldn't be refundable anyway. because you know that when you go to delete that "useless" Gallente Battleship skill, you're really gonna end up deleting "Amarr Titan" (which happens to be L5, no less) and then rage all over the forums about how it's not fair that they let you delete that skill and you should be reimbursed the 5bn ISK you just trashed ...
lol...I was going to make a comment to that effect but I deleted it. But yes...this would be an absolute outcome of the option to delete skills. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Nisa Darksoul
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.04 20:07:00 -
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Having the ability to delete skills does not solve the problem with the afterburner skill - it just mitigates a symptom. The real issue is that you want to be able to turn the damned thing on and off quickly, and getting more ranks in the skill makes your reaction time slower.
Solution is to change out for a cap reduction or better yet a MASSIVE cap reduction coupled with a MASSIVE decrease in cycle time (the thing cycles every half second or so, but balanced so that it uses the same cap as the current AB V). |
Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.04 20:41:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:While I would prefer the option to be able to pay ISK or even AUR for partial SP refund, I don't see any reason why an option to simply delete skills would hurt anybody. Again...if you don't want to use the feature...don't use it. Unfortunately you would still have people rage over it anyway...idiots...
At the very least an option to delete skills given at character creation. Those shouldn't be refundable anyway. because you know that when you go to delete that "useless" Gallente Battleship skill, you're really gonna end up deleting "Amarr Titan" (which happens to be L5, no less) and then rage all over the forums about how it's not fair that they let you delete that skill and you should be reimbursed the 5bn ISK you just trashed ...
Well, this is rather an argument in favor of skill deletion.
1. If someone is stupid enough to accidentally delete his titan skill, he should definitely get the opportunity to do so because he absolutely deserves to have that skill taken from him.
2. Also i would welcome the opportunity to thouroughly laugh such an idiot and his raging off, it would be quite funny. "You either need less science fiction or more medication."
"Or less medication and more ammo!" |
Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
360
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Posted - 2012.01.04 22:23:00 -
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This feature would add value to some characters seen in the bazaar where morons have inject every skill they had the pre-requisite for and left them at 0. Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
Rixiu
North Star Networks The Kadeshi
63
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Posted - 2012.01.04 22:24:00 -
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I've seen people wanting to pay for SP, but never that they want to pay to REMOVE SP. You son, are wierd. |
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Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
361
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Posted - 2012.01.04 23:23:00 -
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Rixiu wrote:I've seen people wanting to pay for SP, but never that they want to pay to REMOVE SP. You son, are wierd. Oh noes, my SP backbone, what would I do if I lost the 100k SP I have in industry?? Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
Ai Shun
State War Academy Caldari State
107
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Posted - 2012.01.04 23:33:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Again...if you don't want to use the feature...don't use it. Unfortunately you would still have people rage over it anyway...idiots...
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:ol...I was going to make a comment to that effect but I deleted it. But yes...this would be an absolute outcome of the option to delete skills.
So you have made the connection between what would be a rarely used "feature" and stupidity. When you've made the connection with development resources, quality assurance and customer support as well we can have a chat about "idiots" and the folly of suggesting those aware of the full impact should simply not use the feature.
In case you missed it (Numbers are thumbsucked for illustration):
- Delaying something that 10 players would use to implement something 5 players would use is bad.
- Implementing something with a high risk to players and CCP is bad.
- Implementing something that is likely to cost increased support and put additional burden on an already strained system is bad.
Now, don't see that as dismissing the desired OUTCOME entirely. It simply means a BETTER mechanism is needed than the ****** one suggested to date.
One that has an application in more than one area, is exposed to a larger swathe of the player base and will have use for them and one that has not such an intensive Quality Assurance and support burden and that will deliver the same outcome.
That would be clever, wouldn't it?
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Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
307
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Posted - 2012.01.04 23:38:00 -
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Despite what everyone is saying, there is a legitimate reason to want this sort of functionality.
The more SP you have, the more expensive your clones get. Deleting some unnecessary skills which you have accumulated on your character can be enough to bump you down to a cheaper clone.
Mind you, this would ONLY be desirable by a rational player (in the sense of Game Theory) if they were getting podded a lot - and then they would probably be doing something very, VERY wrong in their PvP. |
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