Originally by: Amanda Shadowsword

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Originally by: Amanda Shadowsword

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To many people try to run to the gate which is just gonna get you killed, just be kool stick around or contact a campie to see about a price for your pod. More often than enough they will give a fair price for your age

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Originally by: Disima Santet

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Edited by: Disima Santet on 14/06/2007 02:37:19
The "cloaked" gate camp. Strategy is pretty simple. You camp a pipe system cloaked and your scout tells you of any targets coming through. Now normally if you see more than 2 people in local you'd suspect a camp going on. Some people are desperate enough to try to get through even if they see that there are quite a few people in local. If you read no ships on scanner naturally you'd think something is wrong, but their desire to get to their destination makes them take the risk and jump in. So they put their scout through, scout reports that game is clear but some people in local, other gate is also clear. After some deliberation they jump. Your scout reports when they are jumping in. Can use a frigate or inty for tackling which would be the only ship uncloaked, drop interdictor bubbles from uncloaking dictor, or even use a stealth bomber for tackling (as sb's don't have sensor recalibration time penalty). Then the rest of the gang uncloaks.

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Originally by: Janus Duo

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Wait--You can't kill 2 t1 cruisers with a Dominix?

Wow.

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Originally by: Belenkas

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The Maller tank bait in lowsec some people just wouldn't understand for what reason that Maller is taking so long to kill the few frigates even if shooting at them... Obvious reason - tank eats so much PG that there is only place left for a pair of small guns.
15k+ armor with Maller's resists and you can survive even Battleships long enough :)

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Originally by: Amanda Shadowsword

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Even in the eve-o forums, you not safe from the mighty gank of the Kleptomaniacs. Any way personally i would not call 2 cruisers a gate camp tbh, and if you do warp into 1 well then your ship is going down but stick around and save your pod. To many people try to run to the gate which is just gonna get you killed, just be kool stick around or contact a campie to see about a price for your pod. More often than enough they will give a fair price for your age

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Originally by: Mjojjnir

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I got killed earlier on by a log-in trap which now seems to be a legit tactic after my petition response. This should make baiting a little easier as the target won't have intel on what you have... it's still lame though.

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Originally by: Disima Santet

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Haven't been tried, but what if you go to some low sec system and place a mining barge at a safespot very close to a some belt so that whoever is reading it with scanner from any direction will actually think this is a barge in a belt. Place some cheap cruiser in the belt, so it actually looks like a noobish mining party with protection, cruiser can be mining with some lasers too. A pirate enters system, scans, sees the barge and cruiser on scanner. He'll see more of you in local too but he might not resist the temptation and go for it anyhow, because both ships are weak so he'll probably take them out quicly enough. So he warps into belt, sees no barge, but whatever goes for the cruiser, upon which time your gang uncloacks in same belt and takes him out. Need a recon ship or stealth bomber to lock onto him fast and scram. Can possibly do this without the cruiser, just count on the pirate warping to the belt to meet the barge, but if you don't want to lose sec status then that'll do.

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Originally by: Belenkas

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The Maller tank bait in lowsec some people just wouldn't understand for what reason that Maller is taking so long to kill the few frigates even if shooting at them... Obvious reason - tank eats so much PG that there is only place left for a pair of small guns.
15k+ armor with Maller's resists and you can survive even Battleships long enough :)

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Originally by: Amanda Shadowsword

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Even in the eve-o forums, you not safe from the mighty gank of the Kleptomaniacs. Any way personally i would not call 2 cruisers a gate camp tbh, and if you do warp into 1 well then your ship is going down but stick around and save your pod. To many people try to run to the gate which is just gonna get you killed, just be kool stick around or contact a campie to see about a price for your pod. More often than enough they will give a fair price for your age

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Originally by: Deschenus Maximus

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Baiting's an art. You do it wrong, and no way in hell will your quarry fall for the trap. You do it half right, and you'll probably get a shot at taking down one or two ships. When you got it right, then carnage is your reward.

So what are your dos and don'ts? Any specific techniques you use? Any funny baiting stories?

I'll share a technique and a quicky story:

The "Oh ****! Gatecamp! Run!" technique:
Consists in jumping into a known gatecamp in a ship with a pretty good tank, and acting like you ****** up. You then either try to warp away, or try to head back for the gate. As soon as the hostiles agress, you tell your guys to jump in and agress yourself. Works pretty well, unless you're jumping into a weak gatecamp with a very strong ship (i.e. jumping a Domi into 2 cruisers).

And a poor baiting story:
I was in my Myrm, coming back from I don't know where in our old const, when a POS Sabre warps to my gate and starts shooting me, trying to get me to shoot back. Now, obviously, if you were alone in a sabre, you wouldn't (normally) engage solo what is probably the best solo BC out there. So I jumped in and docked, only to get intel that the rest of the guy's gang was coming in (14 guys that would have torn me a new one). Good thing logic and instinct kept me from making a dumb mistake.

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