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Moksha
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Posted - 2004.01.14 20:50:00 -
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A pilot can initiate an attack without fear of Concord, Sentry Guns or Sec. Status loss when:
You are in 0.0 Space
You are attacking a pilot with a security rating of ū5 or less
You are attacking a pilot of a corporation with whom your corporation is officially at war with
You are attacking your own corp. members
Pilots can defend themselves in all systems as long as they are fired upon first (includes all forms of e-warefare, target jamming, dampening, energy drain etc.) Does an inbound missle that has not impacted constitute an attack that can be countered immediately? Targeting does not constitute an attack.
A pilot can initiate an attack without fear of Concord in .1 - .4 space. However, they will take a security status hit and if the attack occurs with the range of sentry guns they will be fired upon.
Do I have this right or am I offbase? Clarifications, corrections or additions would be appreciated. |
Moksha
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Posted - 2004.01.14 20:50:00 -
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A pilot can initiate an attack without fear of Concord, Sentry Guns or Sec. Status loss when:
You are in 0.0 Space
You are attacking a pilot with a security rating of ū5 or less
You are attacking a pilot of a corporation with whom your corporation is officially at war with
You are attacking your own corp. members
Pilots can defend themselves in all systems as long as they are fired upon first (includes all forms of e-warefare, target jamming, dampening, energy drain etc.) Does an inbound missle that has not impacted constitute an attack that can be countered immediately? Targeting does not constitute an attack.
A pilot can initiate an attack without fear of Concord in .1 - .4 space. However, they will take a security status hit and if the attack occurs with the range of sentry guns they will be fired upon.
Do I have this right or am I offbase? Clarifications, corrections or additions would be appreciated. |
Reah
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Posted - 2004.01.14 20:56:00 -
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pretty mutch corect, except im not sure about missiles, but watch there splash damage anyway! :D
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Reah
Caldari
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Posted - 2004.01.14 20:56:00 -
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pretty mutch corect, except im not sure about missiles, but watch there splash damage anyway! :D
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MaxPower
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Posted - 2004.01.14 21:02:00 -
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this has prob been asked...but as it kinda goes with the topic.. if a pirate is 60km from a sentry gun, so out of its range, and shoots at me (in 0.4 for example) and i return fire..do the sentry guns then pod me as they only see me making an offensive action?
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MaxPower
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Posted - 2004.01.14 21:02:00 -
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this has prob been asked...but as it kinda goes with the topic.. if a pirate is 60km from a sentry gun, so out of its range, and shoots at me (in 0.4 for example) and i return fire..do the sentry guns then pod me as they only see me making an offensive action?
Me like PIE!!!1 -Capsicum
Pie ist gut ja? - Imaran 
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Cyther
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Posted - 2004.01.14 21:04:00 -
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Launching a missile is a hostile act the moment it is fired, usually a sentry gun will shoot it down long before it reaches its target.
Also, even if you are defending yourself, once you fire your weapons the jumpgates will deny you access for two minutes.
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Cyther
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2004.01.14 21:04:00 -
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Launching a missile is a hostile act the moment it is fired, usually a sentry gun will shoot it down long before it reaches its target.
Also, even if you are defending yourself, once you fire your weapons the jumpgates will deny you access for two minutes.
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will9anthony
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Posted - 2004.01.14 21:05:00 -
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they cant attack me i'm 9.9 rating
I am back |
will9anthony
Gallente
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Posted - 2004.01.14 21:05:00 -
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they cant attack me i'm 9.9 rating
I am back |
Hodokie Seek
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Posted - 2004.01.15 03:41:00 -
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they cant attack me i'm 9.9 rating
Who can not attack you with a 9.9 rating and why? Just curious.
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[07:11:41] Hodokie Seek > k, will probably go in my Tristan.
[07:12:18] xxxx > tristan? is it a hazardous area?
[07:12:27] Hodokie Seek > Yep
[07:12:34] xxxx > nuts
[07:12:37] Hodokie Seek > Yep
[07:12:52] xxxx > wouldn't be so bad, but i'd hate to lose my implants
[07:13:06] xxxx > i'll go in my omen
/emote Hodokie Seek <---- No implants and no brains.
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Hodokie Seek
Gallente
Old Farts Drinking Club
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Posted - 2004.01.15 03:41:00 -
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they cant attack me i'm 9.9 rating
Who can not attack you with a 9.9 rating and why? Just curious.
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[07:11:41] Hodokie Seek > k, will probably go in my Tristan.
[07:12:18] xxxx > tristan? is it a hazardous area?
[07:12:27] Hodokie Seek > Yep
[07:12:34] xxxx > nuts
[07:12:37] Hodokie Seek > Yep
[07:12:52] xxxx > wouldn't be so bad, but i'd hate to lose my implants
[07:13:06] xxxx > i'll go in my omen
/emote Hodokie Seek <---- No implants and no brains.
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0rigin
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Posted - 2004.01.18 11:12:00 -
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 yup. i agree.
note: rule of engagements. no matter what. you must be the last man standing. if its a stale mate u must be the last one in the field. ~ leading a gang. u must be the first one in. and the last one out....
Once upon a time. there was a Hooded man. who onced walk amongs man. yet he was different for he mind was well elivated. to a degree. where he saw an army. move toward hes LiFe. for he was forced to defend it. and when the Battle was settled only one man remained.... and the story spread throughout the galaxy. and he was known. n labeled as a pirate. for defending hes life. and avenging hes. fellow men who died that day... Once upon a Time. Origin.
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0rigin
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Posted - 2004.01.18 11:12:00 -
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yup. i agree.
note: rule of engagements. no matter what. you must be the last man standing. if its a stale mate u must be the last one in the field. ~ leading a gang. u must be the first one in. and the last one out....
Once upon a time. there was a Hooded man. who onced walk amongs man. yet he was different for he mind was well elivated. to a degree. where he saw an army. move toward hes LiFe. for he was forced to defend it. and when the Battle was settled only one man remained.... and the story spread throughout the galaxy. and he was known. n labeled as a pirate. for defending hes life. and avenging hes. fellow men who died that day... Once upon a Time. Origin.
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Iznogoud
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Posted - 2004.01.18 12:15:00 -
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You forgot about named systems in 0.0.
In a named system u get sec hit and sentries will react to it.
Ex: Misaba.
 
Grand Vizir Iznogoud L'Infame
Founding member of the Spearmint Rhino GentlemenĘs Club (Official Star Fraction Metaphysical Discussion Group and Lap Dance Club). |
Iznogoud
Vagabundos
THE H0RDE
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Posted - 2004.01.18 12:15:00 -
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You forgot about named systems in 0.0.
In a named system u get sec hit and sentries will react to it.
Ex: Misaba.
Grand Vizir Iznogoud L'Infame
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White Tiger
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Posted - 2004.01.18 19:10:00 -
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From my experience Inbound Missiles do not constitute an attack until they hit...By that time it could be too late.
White Tiger
Founding Member and CEO of Tactical Advisory Group
"The Only Easy Day was Yesterday." |
White Tiger
Caldari
Tactical Advisory Group
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Posted - 2004.01.18 19:10:00 -
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From my experience Inbound Missiles do not constitute an attack until they hit...By that time it could be too late.
White Tiger
Founding Member and CEO of Tactical Advisory Group
"The Only Easy Day was Yesterday." |
symtrips
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Posted - 2004.01.19 01:04:00 -
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named 0.0 systems are not 0.0 they are .09 which is rounded down with the new "tard" math ccp has implied.. so many a pilot has found them selves vaporized in "0.0" space. easier way to tell is.. if there are sentry guns by the gates.. don't shoot near the gates/stations.. no sentry guns by gates.. FFA
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symtrips
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2004.01.19 01:04:00 -
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named 0.0 systems are not 0.0 they are .09 which is rounded down with the new "tard" math ccp has implied.. so many a pilot has found them selves vaporized in "0.0" space. easier way to tell is.. if there are sentry guns by the gates.. don't shoot near the gates/stations.. no sentry guns by gates.. FFA
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xenx
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Posted - 2004.01.19 15:27:00 -
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What If: A player initiates an attack on you, you defend yourself and kill their ship. If u then pod the character is that still defending yourself or is that then seen as an seperate agressive action??
e.g. someone attacks you within SG range, u fire at them and then the SG's and yourself blow the other ship up. If u then lock their pod and shoot at it wil the SGs then turn on you?
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xenx
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Posted - 2004.01.19 15:27:00 -
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What If: A player initiates an attack on you, you defend yourself and kill their ship. If u then pod the character is that still defending yourself or is that then seen as an seperate agressive action??
e.g. someone attacks you within SG range, u fire at them and then the SG's and yourself blow the other ship up. If u then lock their pod and shoot at it wil the SGs then turn on you?
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Miss Take
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Posted - 2004.01.19 15:35:00 -
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Quote:
What If: A player initiates an attack on you, you defend yourself and kill their ship. If u then pod the character is that still defending yourself or is that then seen as an seperate agressive action??
e.g. someone attacks you within SG range, u fire at them and then the SG's and yourself blow the other ship up. If u then lock their pod and shoot at it wil the SGs then turn on you?
Yes, you will then be the aggressor towards the pod and the sentries will act accordingly.
Be careful when using missiles also, as splash dmg to the pod will result in the sentries opening up on you
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Miss Take
Reikoku
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Posted - 2004.01.19 15:35:00 -
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Quote:
What If: A player initiates an attack on you, you defend yourself and kill their ship. If u then pod the character is that still defending yourself or is that then seen as an seperate agressive action??
e.g. someone attacks you within SG range, u fire at them and then the SG's and yourself blow the other ship up. If u then lock their pod and shoot at it wil the SGs then turn on you?
Yes, you will then be the aggressor towards the pod and the sentries will act accordingly.
Be careful when using missiles also, as splash dmg to the pod will result in the sentries opening up on you
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Yakoff
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Posted - 2006.11.13 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Iznogoud
You forgot about named systems in 0.0.
In a named system u get sec hit and sentries will react to it.
Ex: Misaba.
Sadly, I just learned this rule this weekend. 0.0 does not exactly = 0.0 in named systems. I took out an incursus with my wolf. Lost my wolf to sentries about 1/2 second later. I've been in TRUE 0.0 for the past 4 months and forgot about this rule - and unfortunately 3 other more experienced players made the same mistake as me.
So to sum up the whole is it 0.0 or is it 0.1 space - if the system is NAMED - like you can actually read the sytem name and it is not something like bzh-121 or 12-asdf or some other weird random alphanumeric characters with a dsh thrown some where in there, it is safe to open fire.
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Ricky Baby
The Kennels
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Posted - 2006.11.13 21:29:00 -
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thread necro ftl, noticed this after writing a decent answer - meh
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Mrmuttley
House of Tempers
Kurai Komichi
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Posted - 2006.11.14 08:30:00 -
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Mecromancer
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Time for a new Sig.
Any Ideas? |
Iteken Hotori
Minmatar
GTE Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.14 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: White Tiger
From my experience Inbound Missiles do not constitute an attack until they hit...By that time it could be too late.
so... If you sit at 10km and fire rockets at someone but they don't hit. the other dude sees this, and fires back.... can you then pwn and giggle ?
Warning: May contain flaming, trolling, swearing, typos, crimes against grammar, obscure reference to old films, in jokes, rambling, ranting and references to EvE. |
Major Stormer
Caldari
Demon Womb
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Posted - 2006.11.14 23:04:00 -
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Wait......there are rules?
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