Alski
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Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.15 22:44:00 -
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i'm gonna be lazy and just copy / paste what i said in anouther thread:
I think people are getting distracted by the notion that this change is somehow going prevent or nurf carrier hauling - its not, look at what the changes actually do to the M3 numbers:
Unrigged Haulers with/without GSCs:
3x GSCs + 8xGSCs inside 2x Iteron III's with T2 expanded cargohold = 42900m3
3x GSCs +2xIteron III's with T2 expanded cargoholds = 35924m3 (19% less)
Rigged Haulers with/without GSCs:
3x GSCs + 12xGSCs inside 2x Iteron III's with T2 expanded cargohold and 3x cargohold optimization rigs = 58500m3
3x GSCs +2xIteron III's with T2 expanded cargoholds and 3x cargohold optimization rigs = 48574m3 (20% less)
So now in order to haul the same amount we could pre-revelations and pre-GSC-nurf, we just have to use fully rigged T1 industrials.
This in no way prevents carriers from hauling, it just makes them less efficent.
The biggest change this will cause is not being able to sort items into groups (ie: keep all person A's stuff in one can, person B's stuff in another, etc) and before you say "Use Contacts":
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Ships that have assembled containers in their cargo hold cannot be placed in ship maintenance bays/arrays, either in space or at a station. This is also valid for courier packages.
That is the real problem with this change, Carriers WILL continue to be used for logistics weather we like it or not, the problem is this change just makes it unnecessarily awkward to manage multiple items with multiple sources / destinations / owners / buyers / sellers, etc.
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Alski
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Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.15 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: William Hart
Well, who thinks it should be nerfed further?
It wasent an intentional nurf to the cargo capacity of carriers, it was a bug fix. 
Originally by: CCP Oneiromancer
People have been asking for the ability to store loaded ships at ship maintenance bays and arrays and a change was made to allow that. Assembled containers and courier packages are the only restricted items that cannot be in an assembled ship inside a ship maintenance bay/array, in order to prevent exploits.
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