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Kale Kold
Lensmen
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Posted - 2007.06.15 22:11:00 -
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In your opinion, what ships could be considered the best Assault Ship, Heavy Assault Ship and Command Ship to be used for PvP?
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MassonA
Caldari
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.15 22:13:00 -
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in my opinion, assault ship would be ishkur / jaguar
heavy assault ship would be vagabond / ishtar
command ship, probably the astarte or sleipnir. although the eos is good too
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king jks
The Nine Gates
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.06.15 22:31:00 -
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You'll start to notice a pattern for the "best" things, they are generally really fast things and drone ships. Thusly:
Ishkur/Jaguar
Vagabond/Ishtar
Sleipnir/Eos
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Red Harvest
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Posted - 2007.06.15 22:32:00 -
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assault: Ishkur
HAC: Ishtar
CS: Eos
The point is that they all are good at armor tanking and have a good number of mid slots free for pvp stuff plus some nasty extra dmg from drones.
Dont get me wrong Sleipnir, Vagabond and Jaguar are also very good PvP ships (great speed and good damage) but the gallente ships are a bit more flexible and hit harder (but need to get in range).
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VanNostrum
Cataphract Securities
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Posted - 2007.06.15 22:36:00 -
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hmm I'd go for:
wolf
vagabond
absolution 
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Glassback
M. Corp
M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.06.16 00:20:00 -
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 Originally by: Red Harvest
assault: Ishkur
HAC: Ishtar
CS: Eos
The point is that they all are good at armor tanking and have a good number of mid slots free for pvp stuff plus some nasty extra dmg from drones.
Dont get me wrong Sleipnir, Vagabond and Jaguar are also very good PvP ships (great speed and good damage) but the gallente ships are a bit more flexible and hit harder (but need to get in range).
QFT
G.
If Eve was just a game, it would have a pause button.
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.06.16 00:38:00 -
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Depends for what kind of PvP. Personnaly, I think Amarr can't be beat in large gangs.
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Chr0nosX
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Posted - 2007.06.16 00:43:00 -
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AF:Jag
HAC:Vagabond
CS:Eos
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.06.16 01:04:00 -
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Jaguar
Vagabond
Eos/Slepneir
HATE THESE KIND OF THREADS.
To the drone haters, they arent that powerful. NOS nerf will make sure they're inline wiht everything else.
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Friends Forever
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tarin adur
Gallente
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.06.16 02:56:00 -
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Ishkur/jaguar
Pilgrim/Ishtar/Vagabond
Eos/Astarte/Sleipnir
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Incantare
Caldari
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.16 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: tarin adur
Pilgrim
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Darpz
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.16 04:43:00 -
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Originally by: tarin adur
Ishkur/jaguar
Pilgrim/Ishtar/Vagabond
Eos/Astarte/Sleipnir
pilgrim is actually really weak atm, Curse>Pilgrim even for solo work
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Jehovah Cooper
Convergent
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.16 05:39:00 -
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Another interesting thing about the Pilgrim is that it has nothing whatever to do with the OP.
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Motivation toDie
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Posted - 2007.06.16 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: tarin adur
Ishkur/jaguar
Pilgrim/Ishtar/Vagabond
Eos/Astarte/Sleipnir
AF; Manticore/Helios
HAC; Thorax/Basilisk
Commandship; Deimos/Moros
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Kerdrak
Amarr
3B Legio IX
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2007.06.16 08:39:00 -
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Edited by: Kerdrak on 16/06/2007 08:38:30
If is not for solo pvp:
- Ishkur/Retribution
- Zealot/Curse
- Absolution
Yes, Amarr rocks.
And yes, Curse is a HAC 
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Treboris
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Posted - 2007.06.16 08:43:00 -
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AF; Manticore/Helios
HAC; Thorax/Basilisk
Commandship; Deimos/Moros
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MassonA
Caldari
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.16 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: Treboris
Manticore is a cov ops not an AF...
he was poking fun at the fact someone thought a pilgrim was a HAC
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Spaced Skunk
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.16 09:07:00 -
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Hmmmm there isnt a best all rounder, so I'll shove in my opinion on different aspects of PvP.
Assualt frigs -
Solo - Jaguar/Wolf/Ishkur
Small Gang - Wolf/Enyo/Retribution/Harpy
Large Gang/Fleet - Wolf/Enyo/Retribution/Harpy
Heavy Assault ships -
Solo - Ishtar/Vagabond
Small Gang - Vagabond/Deimos/Zealot/Cerberus
Large Gang/Fleet - Muninn/Eagle
Command Ships -
Solo - Sleipnir/Astarte/Eos
Small Gang - Sleipnir/Astarte/Eos/Absolution
Large Gang/Fleet - Vulture/Astarte/Absolution/Claymore
There isnt a best in my opinion, each one BECOMES the best through your skill tree and how you fly it.
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n0thing
omen.
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Posted - 2007.06.16 09:11:00 -
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Edited by: n0thing on 16/06/2007 09:11:20
Originally by: Haniblecter Teg
Jaguar
Vagabond
Eos/Slepneir
HATE THESE KIND OF THREADS.
To the drone haters, they arent that powerful. NOS nerf will make sure they're inline wiht everything else.
Drone haters are people who too lazy to set their overview with 'drone only' tab. Heavy drones die even to missle ships fairly fast if owner doesnt scoop em same second. With alot of scooping it lowers DPS completly.
As for topic:
Ishkur/Wolf
Ishtar/Vagabond...tho I think vaga is just expensive tackler.
Eos/Astarte/Nighthawk(tankage).
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Serendipitously
Conisor Excavations Syndicate
Antagonistic Assembly
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Posted - 2007.06.16 09:48:00 -
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Edited by: Serendipitously on 16/06/2007 09:47:58
The problem with these kind of statements is, that the ship is seldom better than the pilot flying it.
I would recommend finding our style of play first, and then deciding on which CS/HAC to specialize in later.
Eventhough I have the skills to fly a tech II fitted Vagabond, it would probably end disastrous, as I have very little experience flying speed-tanked ships.
In my oppion: experience > ships
Aslong as you fly the ships in their intended role - they rock. If you are interested in solo-pwn mobiles in 1 race choose gallente. If you like cross-training, choose minmatar - then gallente :D.
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Treboris
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Posted - 2007.06.16 09:53:00 -
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Originally by: MassonA
Originally by: Treboris
Manticore is a cov ops not an AF...
he was poking fun at the fact someone thought a pilgrim was a HAC
My bad (I don't fly HACs so I didn't recognize the joke)
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Eldra Ulran
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Posted - 2007.06.16 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Motivation toDie
Originally by: tarin adur
Ishkur/jaguar
Pilgrim/Ishtar/Vagabond
Eos/Astarte/Sleipnir
AF; Manticore/Helios
HAC; Thorax/Basilisk
Commandship; Deimos/Moros
Well I laughed
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royal killer
Amarr
The Funkalistic
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.16 13:31:00 -
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I'd say:
Jaguar/Ishkur
Vagabond/Ishtar
Absolution & Sleipnir   
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VanNostrum
Cataphract Securities
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Posted - 2007.06.16 15:56:00 -
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don't wanna go off-topic but can a sleipnir take on an absolution?
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Laboratus
Gallente
BGG
League of Abnormal Gentlemen
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Posted - 2007.06.16 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Spaced Skunk
Hmmmm there isnt a best all rounder, so I'll shove in my opinion on different aspects of PvP.
Assualt frigs -
Solo - Jaguar/Wolf/Ishkur
Small Gang - Wolf/Enyo/Retribution/Harpy
Large Gang/Fleet - Wolf/Enyo/Retribution/Harpy
Heavy Assault ships -
Solo - Ishtar/Vagabond
Small Gang - Vagabond/Deimos/Zealot/Cerberus
Large Gang/Fleet - Muninn/Eagle
Command Ships -
Solo - Sleipnir/Astarte/Eos
Small Gang - Sleipnir/Astarte/Eos/Absolution
Large Gang/Fleet - Vulture/Astarte/Absolution/Claymore
There isnt a best in my opinion, each one BECOMES the best through your skill tree and how you fly it.
This man speaketh the truth
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Post with your main.
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Red Harvest
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Posted - 2007.06.16 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: VanNostrum
don't wanna go off-topic but can a sleipnir take on an absolution?
Dont think they would be able to break each others tank until one of them runs out of cap charges.
In the end i would say the absolution would win because at some point the sleipnir has to run out of ammo and the absolution has more cargo for charges.
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Hellraiza666
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.16 16:12:00 -
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Enyo
Vaga
Eos
Originally by: CYVOK
...Very Disappointed, I spent 2 years building a pile of ****.
-CYVOK-
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Hudsonn
FireTech
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.06.16 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Red Harvest
assault: Ishkur
HAC: Ishtar
CS: Eos
The point is that they all are good at armor tanking and have a good number of mid slots free for pvp stuff plus some nasty extra dmg from drones.
Dont get me wrong Sleipnir, Vagabond and Jaguar are also very good PvP ships (great speed and good damage) but the gallente ships are a bit more flexible and hit harder (but need to get in range).
Stay out of your range, kill your drones and i win! Minni ftw
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Red Harvest
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Posted - 2007.06.16 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Hudsonn
Originally by: Red Harvest
stuff
Stay out of your range, kill your drones and i win! Minni ftw
Usually got a tracking disruptor fitted just to prevent that from happening (and to protect me from some dmg too). I think every drone user should have one.
Also i usually have 2-3 webber drones in the bay to give me the chance to get in range for the ship fitted webber.
The moment i got the other guy webbed/scrambled and in blaster range its usually the minnie who goes down 1st.
You gotta love the dronebays on the gallente ships. 
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Trind2222
Amarr
Dark-Rising
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.06.16 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Spaced Skunk
Hmmmm there isnt a best all rounder, so I'll shove in my opinion on different aspects of PvP.
Assualt frigs -
Solo - Jaguar/Wolf/Ishkur
Small Gang - Wolf/Enyo/Retribution/Harpy
Large Gang/Fleet - Wolf/Enyo/Retribution/Harpy
Heavy Assault ships -
Solo - Ishtar/Vagabond
Small Gang - Vagabond/Deimos/Zealot/Cerberus
Large Gang/Fleet - Muninn/Eagle
Command Ships -
Solo - Sleipnir/Astarte/Eos
Small Gang - Sleipnir/Astarte/Eos/Absolution
Large Gang/Fleet - Vulture/Astarte/Absolution/Claymore
There isnt a best in my opinion, each one BECOMES the best through your skill tree and how you fly it.
qft
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