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SLIM
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.06.16 15:15:00 -
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Who said we have no money? Maybe we don't care about making money as much as we care about making idiots cry.
But really, if we suck so bad, war dec us. No cap ships in high sec right?
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QuickGonzalez
Caldari Nicht Vobla
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Posted - 2007.06.16 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kaitana Esquire Hi
Im Kai and quiet new or not so new to the game. Straight to the question
"Is Eve-community degrading?"
My answer is No
Reason :
In the early days yes there are few ships few modules and limited access to better weapons. So the game balanced with few players online.
Instead nowadays eve has grew into one large community ranging from thousand of new player and thousand of alt to thousand of veterans and elite.
The question further into flying solo or gang without caps doesnt work is truly incorrect (in my opinion). This is because instead of what claimed to be degrading, eve has turn otherwise. Enriched with more game experience. With more ships and arsenal yield more tactical combat and strategies to be applied with risk untold. The key to this excitement is Creativity. A BS routine set up is not creative plus most of other people had stated your mix is quiet not right.
ever read the news about the first Titan destroyed?
Now the question arise. Do they that pwn you, invincible?
Answer : No
Reason : With cunning and fiery revenge and eve massive possibilities even a newb can pod anyone. Only creativity, time and place would tell.
Tips : try read few of eve stories perhaps that would inspire you.
If that still doesnt give any excitement..... just leave and leave it be. why pay and play for something you found no longer fun.
The game is simple above 0.4 is safe otherwise is a dead zone. So we go there to die not to dine.
"Troubadour > why don't you train harder?" Look into many perspective it really doesnt mean your SP. A good advice there just need to understand it better.
thank you for your respectable response, but my experince yestrday was far from enhanced player creativity or experience of our enemy. im not whining about my gone BS, because i have recently lost another rokh before the one yesterday, in also an outnumbered fight. However i greatly enjoyed that fight as i brought down two other BS before being poped myself. Both sides said that it was great fighting and both sides equally enjoyed it no matter who lost what. and no im not quiting, neither am i becoming a carebear who doesn't go into low secs. I am just going to continue playing as i used to, its only people that frustrate me, not the game.
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QuickGonzalez
Caldari Nicht Vobla
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Posted - 2007.06.16 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Righteous Fury Edited by: Righteous Fury on 16/06/2007 15:08:57
Originally by: QuickGonzalez
in almost every post i make, i have to repeat myself that this is not just another whining thread about us loosing BS. My point is that as soon as corporations get capital ships they have a full ability to start earning REAL money by taking over territory in 0.0 space. Doing complexes, moon mining, camping entrance in 0.0 and such is just so much more profitable than jumping small gangs in low secs. But no, Slacker Industries corporation clearly sucks in pvp and what they have to do is get all their possible strength to only engage small gangs like ours. They divided all our loot between those 20 people and the jumping fuel cost probably brought profit to zero, so no, "making money" doesn't apply to here. This is carebear style of pvp where you must outnumber 1:100 because you can't kill anyone otherwise. If you actually beleive this is fun then you clearly haven't tried "normal" low sec engagements. and "1 BS,1BC" can do just as good as 2BS. ever seen myrmidon killing a mega? well i have. so this was hardly "OMG WTF HOW UNFAIR" outnumbered fight at first.
So, we suck, and you died to us. What does that make you? I've never heard of you before glancing at our killtracker, and I'm sure I'll most likely never hear of you outside of this thread unless you go on some whining crusade.
If you think we don't use our capitals in 0.0, well then, you're just very sadly mistaken. I don't expect you to know of everything we do, nor do I frankly care. Also, if you think we don't live in 0.0, you're again mistaken to a laughable degree.
You got overkilled because we were bored. Don't like it? Well, have fun crying alone in your cup of tea, you obviously don't have many supporters here.
that was exactly my point, can't kill anyone in 0.0 because they will just be having equal to yours numbers, so to anyhow enertain yourself and show that you can "pvp" you engage gang like ours and than ask in local "how do you like that" to enjoy your incredible victory even more. You just don't stop repating that you won and we lost and that it in your opinion proves that you are amazing in this game. and im sure you do live in 0.0 space, you just can't handle fights there so you have to come to empire to get some kills for your kill board.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2007.06.16 15:44:00 -
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Train up your skills, work out how you can kill carriers (nos etc) and then make a plan how to bait those guys. And when you are ready you will have your revenge.
Degrading of the community? I just can see some whining.
I guess those people in the carriers will get too confident. That is your chance. Work towards it. Look at how the xXDeathXx-people worked for MONTHS towards killing the BoB mom. A long plan, lots of work. But in then end they got rewarded. Do it on a smaller scale. Much better than whining.
Revenge is a dish best served cold!
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.06.16 15:53:00 -
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Sure, its EVE guys. Sometimes you die, sometimes you win.
But they jumped 5 caps ships into a fight a simple 3v4 fight. That's pretty **** ing lame, no matter how you spin it. ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
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Susan Acid
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.16 15:59:00 -
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"They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. *That's* the *Eve* way!"
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Trovax
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.06.16 16:18:00 -
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I wouldnt say its becomming lame as a whole, but it is becomming more and more combat orientated. id say that combat plays 75% where as indusrty and the like now only play 25% if not less.
Personally i dont see the point unless your a pirate, or an allaince battleing for strategic importance.
Those that dont fall into that category are probably the type of people that are about 14 years old, have no sense of direction, and probably throw stones at space whales for kicks. They dont play EvE becasue of the immense tactical and political enviroment...oh no... They log in after school (if they went), and just potter about lookin for a bit of fun. No strategie, no tactics, no goals, no ambitions, i think you get my drift.
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Phangg Freesch
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Posted - 2007.06.16 16:23:00 -
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One should expect to be "ganked" I have been on the receiving end of it several times at gates. Big deal. I eventually made it, and I routinely make it now. If given the chance, with say 5 gate campers, I would indeed bring twenty friends back, in the biggest ships we can find, and clear the camp. Simple enough, and to be expected. Fair or not isn't the point, the point is to win. And win in such a way that it leaves a lesson.
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.16 17:58:00 -
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To the OP , your problem m8 is lack of experience in the PVP aspect of this game . I am not smack talking or taking a dig at ya but point is you took a perfectly normal situation and you understood it the wrong way. The PVP in EVE is unlike an other game , there is no Load/Save option or 0 losses or sicne you reached lvl 70 you can beat up any thing thats lesser than you. PVP in EVE is all about cunningness and usign ur wits to outsmart your opponenet . You were flyign with 2 bs and ran into a bigger gang , well did you use a scout ? Did you accept to lose sicne you already entered the fight ?
Point is anythign can happen , slackers could have just had 10 more ppl in the next system or another third party could have jumped in and it would have been a three way . Always try and pick your fights and even when your in the middle of it when thigns get bad try and have and a regroup or a way out of the fight so you can rebound later , or if not then it was a good fight and u lost that one. From what i see troubadour was tryign to explain the issue but sicne it was a heat of the moment words started flyign by from your side and you take it as smack . This should be a valuable learning experience for ya and next time you will be smarter and more carefull . As for being blobbed or outgunned , well ppl vary in wealth and skill and tactics , as you can see slackers have been playign for a long time and they have the means to raise that type of muscle which is totaly normal coz they invest too much to get a better out come , there is nothing that stops u from doing the same sicne you can just use the same tools . EVE is about group play and solo play , if you like going solo then be very careful who you pick fights with sicne you will be eaisly out numbered by groups , if you want more then join a bigger group.
Hopefully you get a good learning out of this and keep on pew pew
PS: <3 athena , troubadour , viper , miss flying with u guys Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) |
Dryson Bennington
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Posted - 2007.06.16 18:18:00 -
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Sounds to me like your ego got jammed by a fleet that knows how to conduct space warfare, perhaps your corp should invest in carriers, after all in war would you expect the other side to say, ah look they only have battleships, lets be nice to them. You got owned do to your inexpierience in warfare, get over it.
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Doctor Octagon
Amarr Beyond Divinity Inc Blind Beavers
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Posted - 2007.06.16 20:42:00 -
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On some points i agree with the OP.
General ganking with motherships and carriers, interrupting fair and good fights in Eve is not too cool. Ok so you win the battle, but its a game and maybe games should be fun. In most games we set up we try to make the teams as even as possible to mke the game more fun and challenging for everyone.
I have played for soon 4 years, i need challenges and fun to get me online.
Eve as it is played at the moment keeps me bored and away from the game.
Its not all about winning and killmails, id rather loose a ship when i have fun than keep it and sit bored out of my mind looking at capitals doing the work.
PVP'ers with a backbobne will find great joy in challenging odds and fair fights, rest of the gankers are not worthy of my gametime.
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FarScape III
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Posted - 2007.06.16 21:07:00 -
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Edited by: FarScape III on 16/06/2007 21:13:20 I always loose in a fight and that is ok , it should be.
They out flanked you and that is that.
Them bringing a clearly huge fleet to ame a for sure win is great tactics for real life IMO BUT, this is a game, BUT this is EVE, EVE is a bit more realistic then most games.
IMO never smack talk unless you are clearly trying to be funny.
*** Do what you want to EVE, as long as nothing fun is taken away and anything new is fun.
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Soulis
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.06.16 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Meepie Take the name Slackers literally, scene as most of them don't have jobs or contribute to society.
And yeah this is what they are like in EVE, but don't mind them, you still win at rl :P
bah alt post
Originally by: SLIM Who said we have no money? Maybe we don't care about making money as much as we care about making idiots cry.
But really, if we suck so bad, war dec us. No cap ships in high sec right?
war dec us. please.
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QuickGonzalez
Caldari Nicht Vobla
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Posted - 2007.06.16 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Soulis
Originally by: Meepie Take the name Slackers literally, scene as most of them don't have jobs or contribute to society.
And yeah this is what they are like in EVE, but don't mind them, you still win at rl :P
bah alt post
Originally by: SLIM Who said we have no money? Maybe we don't care about making money as much as we care about making idiots cry.
But really, if we suck so bad, war dec us. No cap ships in high sec right?
war dec us. please.
i would love to, however 16people beining my corp to 116 in yours is not very smart. as well would be just a waste of money as i don't go to <0.4
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Joskken Inx
Port Royal Trading Company
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Posted - 2007.06.16 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: sableye your asking if eve community is degrading when all I see from the logs is your side started to smack them so what if they brought in 5 caps, thats been the name of the game for along time.
Hey dude! What's new?
On topic though, with some people making lowsec their home and not having (or wanting) 0.0 what's a buncha guys to do with their capfleet? Mothball it forever?
I dunno, I'm kinda on the fence on this one.
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Donni Camorrano
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Posted - 2007.06.17 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Fink Angel They used to bring 5 battleships to kill your cruiser, they now bring 5 carriers to kill your battleship.
Ah well, just wait some months and they will bring 5 Motherships to kill your carrier, and some months more and theyll bring 5 titans to kill your mothership ^^
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Soulis
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.06.17 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: QuickGonzalez Edited by: QuickGonzalez on 16/06/2007 23:03:39
Originally by: Soulis
Originally by: Meepie Take the name Slackers literally, scene as most of them don't have jobs or contribute to society.
And yeah this is what they are like in EVE, but don't mind them, you still win at rl :P
bah alt post
Originally by: SLIM Who said we have no money? Maybe we don't care about making money as much as we care about making idiots cry.
But really, if we suck so bad, war dec us. No cap ships in high sec right?
war dec us. please.
i would love to, however 16 people beining in my corp to 116 in yours is not very smart. as well would be just a waste of money as i don't go to >0.4
edit: spelling
just means you will have more targets than us.
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Notorious BIG
Gallente The Celestial Free Miner's Sev3rance
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Posted - 2007.06.17 00:36:00 -
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Edited by: Notorious BIG on 17/06/2007 00:36:36 LOL
so when u get Pwned u take out yer rage against Mining Barges he
Whine On
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Siren Call
Dragon Highlords Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2007.06.17 00:39:00 -
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in the "good old days" i used to fly around in a rax and often find many 1v1 or 1v2 fights in 0.0, this used to be fun, now however it is actually IMPOSSIBLE to find a fair fight in 0.0 let alone low sec, i and my friend have an alt each so thats four of us, and we havent actually found a fair fight in days now... I just dont get what is exciting or fun about ganking people. The best part about eve was the pvp, the way you used to shake for 10 minutes after some combat, becuase you had actually risked your ship in a fight you may or may not win. Now however i only ever lose my ship to a gang of at least 5 to 1 odds. Where is the fun in that for me, there isnt any (and i used to have fun even when i died...me in a blackbird vs 3 ceptors in OR that lasted 10 mins :) ), where is the fun for them, there isnt any, with no risk pvp becomes pointless and you may as well go rat imo.
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killingmach
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Posted - 2007.06.17 00:52:00 -
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Quickgonzalez, you do the most ridiculous PvP that I have ever seen. You engage helpless miners just so you can get your kills.Get a clue on real PvPing QuickGonzalez > you just had to ruin my perfect kill dreamy)
And what do you think he calls his perfect kill?
Answer:QuickGonzalez > well you must admit that barge popped in seconds, and im ussually quick enough to get away from what i am expceting.
And what is he expceting: 2007.06.16 23:17
Victim: QuickGonzalez Alliance: NONE Corp: Nicht Vobla Destroyed: Harpy System: Keshirou Security: 0.2
Involved parties:
Name: killingmach (laid the final blow)
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Chereadenine Zakalwe
VENOM72 Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.17 01:29:00 -
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Hey soulis ..i spotted nessie!! Though i bet the scotsman in frame wasn`t too amused do i still get my isk??
Fancy a change of scenery?
Point me to t |
barabis
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Posted - 2007.06.17 02:06:00 -
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All i got to say is if it was a industrial fleet that jumped in and you had ganked them like all the rest of the random players you'd ganked would there be a forum post ???. Fact is next time you gank a random hauler he might just have a cyno gen
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barabis
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Posted - 2007.06.17 02:14:00 -
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Edited by: barabis on 17/06/2007 02:19:08 Edited by: barabis on 17/06/2007 02:16:59
Originally by: QuickGonzalez
Originally by: emllik
Originally by: QuickGonzalez
no, we saw haulers earlier on but didn't touch them. what i wrote is that we have stopped in that system just because there were potential targets on scanner.
"Stopped in that system just because there were potential targets" I have been docked up in Naguton for days now and have seen you guys there and in the close by systems most days ganking people 4 to 1, nice to see the tables were turned and you got ganked 3 to 1
Oh and as for the smackfest, it was a real fun to watch, Slackers did good returning it
we have a POS around that area, that's why you could have seen us around some time, but yesterday was the first time we ever got 4 people to fly along there. so please stfu
just a little note to gonz u call about fair fights when u tried to gank me but failed, I suggest you take a look back at you're logs and reconsider what you call fair
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Incantare
Caldari Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.17 02:15:00 -
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I don't expect eve to be fair and I doubt the OP does but jumping several carriers on a small gang... lame ****. That's all there is to say.
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Chereadenine Zakalwe
VENOM72 Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.17 02:35:00 -
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Originally by: Incantare I don't expect eve to be fair and I doubt the OP does but jumping several carriers on a small gang... lame ****. That's all there is to say.
as an ex darkness member, i have to say flipping cans on miners, then calling in every available corp member to gank them if they take back..is lame sh*t Fancy a change of scenery?
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aUTOKILL
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.06.17 02:51:00 -
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~~~~~~ New Sig Coming Soon!
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Flaavie
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.06.17 04:43:00 -
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Originally by: SLIM Who said we have no money? Maybe we don't care about making money as much as we care about making idiots cry.
But really, if we suck so bad, war dec us. No cap ships in high sec right?
SLIM STFU THEY ARE TOO POWERFUL WE CAN'T TAKE THEM, we are nubbins D:
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Troubadour
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.06.17 05:38:00 -
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This thread is full of lulz.
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Nickhastapee
Maelstrom Crew
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Posted - 2007.06.17 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: Troubadour This thread is full of lulz.
srsly.
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Rauth Kivaro
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.06.17 09:17:00 -
[120]
This thread has run its course, I believe and has devolved into flames and spam.
*click*
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