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Miz Cenuij
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Posted - 2004.01.15 16:05:00 -
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Should Polaris people make thier in-game characters common knowledge, to avoid any possible conflicts of interest?
A serious thread - Mature opinons only. NO TROLLING pls.
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N3gotiator
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Posted - 2004.01.15 16:06:00 -
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yes i think they should
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Orestes
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Posted - 2004.01.15 16:08:00 -
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They are common knowledge, to our bosses.
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Slagg
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Posted - 2004.01.15 16:08:00 -
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Include the GMs into that too.
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Amin
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Posted - 2004.01.15 16:10:00 -
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They are common knowledge, to our bosses.
Thats probably the safest way to do it. Otherwise Polaris alts would get non-stop grief and afterall they are volenteers and pay a monthly sub like everyone else. So they should be able to play with thier main characters in peace.
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N3gotiator
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Posted - 2004.01.15 16:10:00 -
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Edited by: N3gotiator on 15/01/2004 16:16:57
oh id love to know Orestes' real char...i would like go up to him every morning and go "HELLO!". it would be sweet. he would be my bestest friend.
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.01.15 16:11:00 -
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Hello.
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Amin
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Posted - 2004.01.15 16:13:00 -
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N3gotiator
Are u trying to impersonate Negotiator or are u his alt?
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Kurenin
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Posted - 2004.01.15 16:14:00 -
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Edited by: Kurenin on 15/01/2004 16:14:56
They get their eve free for being polaris 
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[22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas?
[22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
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Orestes
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Posted - 2004.01.15 16:14:00 -
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Thats probably the safest way to do it. Otherwise Polaris alts would get non-stop grief and afterall they are volenteers and pay a monthly sub like everyone else. So they should be able to play with thier main characters in peace.
My sentiments exactly. If anyone thinks a Volunteer or GM is impartial or if there is a conflict of interest, they should e-mail [email protected]. ALL these claims are taken seriously and will be looked into.
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N3gotiator
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Posted - 2004.01.15 16:15:00 -
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Edited by: N3gotiator on 15/01/2004 16:15:57
khm...i forgot the password to the account where Nego is at and so i have to post with this one. yes, thats it.
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Araviel
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Posted - 2004.01.15 16:17:00 -
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Edited by: Araviel on 15/01/2004 16:18:48
moderators are paying customers aswell. i think they should have the same rights as any other player and they should not have to fear harrasment of their player chracter in game becasue of fullfilling their volnteer duty as moderator.
EDIT: amin beat me to it,, darn im slow today
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N3gotiator
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Posted - 2004.01.15 16:18:00 -
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Edited by: N3gotiator on 15/01/2004 16:20:50
especialy if they are such awesome moderators like Orestes...on the other hand, why would he fear anything being such a kind and cool mod as he is?
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Kronarty
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Posted - 2004.01.15 16:43:00 -
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I actually think that GM's, as paid professionals, shouldn't be allowed to play the game they are GM'ing.
And regarding Polaris volunteers, I thank them for the great job they do, but I'd like it better if everything was in the hands of paid professionals, not because I think the Polaris guys and gals are doing a bad job, but as impartial as they try to be there is always the risk of something happening, some info leaked.
I pay for this game and I'd want everything handled by people that have no interests whatsoever INGAME.
That's why I'd like to have more GM's taking care of everything and no unpaid volunteers, and not allow said GM's to have playing alts.
You may think that having PC alts helps them get in touch with the realities of the game, but I think there is more harm that could be done by risking partiality and (maybe more important) accusations of partiality.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.01.15 16:55:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 15/01/2004 16:59:39
Which goes against the most common whine in the valley about the devs not playing their own game, myself I bunch the GMs into that flock, they should play the game as much as possible to know everything going on in it.
So what if I get shot up by a GMs alt? Same thing as getting blown apart by any other extremely rich skilled player.
About the Polaris, the right people know, that's enough for me.
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Slagg
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Posted - 2004.01.15 19:26:00 -
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[email protected] > /dev/null&
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Metal Dude
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Posted - 2004.01.15 20:58:00 -
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Another post from a whining pirate? Come on. Is this because one of the Polaris reporters wrote an article about the fight in fountain while getting blown up by m0o? HeÆs a member of AFDT, a member of FA and he wrote a totally unbiased article on eve-i.com. WhatÆs the problem? The article was totally unbiased (check it out for yourselves) and m0o again start complaining? Did you potation CCP yet Miz? What a bunch of crying babies. Now I understand the phrase æhave a cookieÆ.
The truth will set you free
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Rizzy
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Posted - 2004.01.15 21:01:00 -
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I wonder how many members of polaris are in the exploiting corp known as MASS...now i understand why they tell me they are untouchable and get away with everything :)
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Viduus
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Posted - 2004.01.15 21:03:00 -
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IMO not only should Polaris volunteers remain anonymous on their "main" alts, if the information gets out, then one or the other should be altered or deleted.
GMs and Devs have the need to play the game anonymously, for many reasons. But that too must remain anonymous, else it would defeat the purpose. Saying they shouldn't play at all is, well, short-sighted at best.
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Rizzy
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Posted - 2004.01.15 21:06:00 -
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They should not be allowed in a corp that can effect the game...every biased decision made makes it wrong. Think about it..they in a corp that has enemies and a member in an enemy corp or such makes a petition...sounds bent to me.
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Znaei
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Posted - 2004.01.15 21:12:00 -
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Im pretty sure that if a polaris or a GM would be caught cheating or exploiting, they would be kicked out of the program faster than a cop eats a box donuts.
clagnuts> im drunk just come back from pirates night in spain , wtf i thought it was some eve guys getting together for a drink , turned out to be a feken real pirates show , doh |
Dyvim Slorm
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Posted - 2004.01.15 21:21:00 -
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There's no easy answer to this, you need the Devs/GMs etc to play so thay get a real feel for the game, yet if their alts are known they'll be on everyones hit list that has a grudge. But everyone has to feel confident that they act impartially as well.
You could have a paid non-player to act as Auditor who could check complaints out, match them up with alts and monitor what those alts are doing, but it's a bit of a heavy handed approach, and adds cost.
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.01.15 21:34:00 -
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They are common knowledge, to our bosses.
K then, to put it another way... do said bosses proactively check on what everyone's up to? Or does oversight only occur if someone's complained?
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Kronarty
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Posted - 2004.01.15 21:47:00 -
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GMs and Devs have the need to play the game anonymously, for many reasons. But that too must remain anonymous, else it would defeat the purpose. Saying they shouldn't play at all is, well, short-sighted at best.
Can you give me the reasons why they need to play the game on tranquility (and not chaos) with persistent (as opposed to temporary tailor-made) characters?
I am eagerly waiting for your reply :)
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Halo Jones
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Posted - 2004.01.15 22:50:00 -
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Hmm as far as GMs go, I have the same line as kronarty.
Barstaff don't get to drink in the pub in which they work.. etc, in case issues arise.
Polaris volunteers do a stirling job, and good work, I think ist reasonable to have your sub paid for if u r doing the hours.
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Jessica Logan
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Posted - 2004.01.15 22:53:00 -
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I wonder how many members of polaris are in the exploiting corp known as MASS...now i understand why they tell me they are untouchable and get away with everything :)
A NAT member complaining about exploits.
Oooo, the irony.
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.01.15 23:24:00 -
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I've thought about this, and I think we just have to trust CCP to oversee their employees/volunteers. It sucks, but those people need to be in the game, in the major corps, in the major alliances and in the major happenings to be able to effectively run the game. Revealing people, while maybe preventing some bias, will also fuel many, many flame wars with claims of bias, subject the mods/gms/devs characters to lots of abuse & leave a lot of unsavory behavior unseen as people will know who not to do it in front of.
Think the only solution is to try to have these people placed in as many different factions as possible.
metaldude, poor form.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.01.15 23:40:00 -
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Honest answer is no, Polaris/GM/Developer identities in game should not be common knowledge.
It exposes their gaming experience to interruption, more accusations of bias and raises the possibility of graft because now people know who to try to influence. Stating that their identity should be known is akin to saying "Work for us, but you can't play the game yourselves".
They'd never get any peace. They'd be under even more accusations of exploiting for their own or their corp's/alliance'sbenefit. And it would put those who might actually cheat in direct contact with those who would try to influence them.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Kronarty
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Posted - 2004.01.15 23:42:00 -
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Edited by: Kronarty on 15/01/2004 23:43:07
Why do you think they need to actually be in game with their private accounts?
I am really curious as to the reasons why people think that.
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Miz Cenuij
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Posted - 2004.01.15 23:47:00 -
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I wonder how many of the characters posting here to say that Polaris players main characters should remain secret are actually Polaris alts!
I rest my case.
"Men are going to die..
and im going to kill them". |
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