Originally by: iiOs

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sorry, but you failed when you called Carebear = smart player and then called yourself carebear

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Originally by: T'Renn

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This thread is tantamount to those people who say (in essence) "Your religion is wrong because my religion is right." It's amazing when you think about at all the wars that have been fought by that badly flawed rationale. You are falling into the ol' "I'm playing Eve the correct way!" trap. No, man - you're playing the game the way you want to play it, just like I play the game the way I want to play it and Tiller plays the way he wants to play. Enjoyment is completely different for each person. Furthermore, it's dynamic. For instance, I don't really personally like piracy all that much anymore. What's to say that you won't have a change of heart after some time and decide to try piracy? You'll look back on this thread and feel pretty stupid tbh.

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well i got u to waste your time reading it didnt I, prooves I'm smarter dosent it and call me Sir next time show some respect. and Tell Jacko when he reaches 5'2 he can reply that little runt

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Originally by: iiOs

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as some already stated, carebear is just a term for some who doesnt pvp, no one say that it is a wrong way to play the game or anything, you pay for the game, you play as you like, what is the point of this thread again?

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Originally by: FHPhantom

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Originally by: iiOs

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as some already stated, carebear is just a term for some who doesnt pvp, no one say that it is a wrong way to play the game or anything, you pay for the game, you play as you like, what is the point of this thread again?

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dude quit asking the same over and over ok. The point is fact carebear is what? there is no such thing in this game. I'ts a derogatory term that should not be used.

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Originally by: FHPhantom

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Originally by: iiOs

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as some already stated, carebear is just a term for some who doesnt pvp, no one say that it is a wrong way to play the game or anything, you pay for the game, you play as you like, what is the point of this thread again?

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dude quit asking the same over and over ok. The point is fact carebear is what? there is no such thing in this game. I'ts a derogatory term that should not be used.

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Originally by: Pilok ****fly

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Edited by: Pilok ****fly on 19/06/2007 13:17:41

Originally by: FHPhantom

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Originally by: iiOs

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as some already stated, carebear is just a term for some who doesnt pvp, no one say that it is a wrong way to play the game or anything, you pay for the game, you play as you like, what is the point of this thread again?

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dude quit asking the same over and over ok. The point is fact carebear is what? there is no such thing in this game. I'ts a derogatory term that should not be used.

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Calling you a carebear is an insult to all the other carebears

Stop calling FHPhantom a carebear

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Originally by: FHPhantom

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i will accept invitations to only the top corps.

I play as a team player and have a 5:1 ratio in pvp kills. I also play a mean guitar, the women can't get enough of me, I can't dance but can dunk a basketball.

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Originally by: FHPhantom

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Edited by: FHPhantom on 19/06/2007 13:25:42
Edited by: FHPhantom on 19/06/2007 13:25:06
keep to topic plz. I'm not a carbear or what ever that stands for or means. Never will be. That's insultive in nature. I play the game my way and i play it smart. I will accept invitations to only the top corps.

I play as a team player and have a 5:1 ratio in pvp kills. I also play a mean guitar, the women can't get enough of me, I can't dance but can dunk a basketball.

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Originally by: FHPhantom

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Originally by: Vandamsel

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Edited by: Vandamsel on 19/06/2007 12:43:08

Originally by: FHPhantom

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Originally by: iiOs

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Originally by: FHPhantom

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Originally by: iiOs

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Edited by: iiOs on 19/06/2007 12:04:42
odd thread

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just fact nothing odd bout it

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what facts?

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sry didnt know you couldnt read bro

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holy ****, u are the *****iest carebear ever, thx for making a pointless thread

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I'm modest enough to take that as a compliment ty

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Originally by: T'Renn

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This thread is tantamount to those people who say (in essence) "Your religion is wrong because my religion is right.

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Originally by: FHPhantom

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Edited by: FHPhantom on 19/06/2007 13:25:42
Edited by: FHPhantom on 19/06/2007 13:25:06
keep to topic plz. I'm not a carbear or what ever that stands for or means. Never will be. That's insultive in nature. I play the game my way and i play it smart. I will accept invitations to only the top corps.

I play as a team player and have a 5:1 ratio in pvp kills. I also play a mean guitar, the women can't get enough of me, I can't dance but can dunk a basketball.

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Originally by: Neerea

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Hmm first Boob head then this guy.
Whats wrong with those carebears?

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Originally by: FHPhantom

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to any fool or noob that uses the term carebear STFU ok. It's called playing smart. Ask yourself this how many ships did u lose? Myself 1, due to a gate camp by yellow snow, I mean October snow. But also ask yourself this wheres waldo, I mean Ginger


If you play the game as smart as I do, call me Sir, Sire, Boss, God, or even MCPhantom, but carebear STFU and learn the game u noobs

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Originally by: doctorstupid2

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Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 19/06/2007 14:09:30

Originally by: FHPhantom

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to any fool or noob that uses the term carebear STFU ok. It's called playing smart. Ask yourself this how many ships did u lose? Myself 1, due to a gate camp by yellow snow, I mean October snow. But also ask yourself this wheres waldo, I mean Ginger


If you play the game as smart as I do, call me Sir, Sire, Boss, God, or even MCPhantom, but carebear STFU and learn the game u noobs

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And that right there is the difference between carebears, and rational people.

I log in to produce killmails. I don't really care if it's my own, it's all about the thrill of the chase and the pretty blue flash. I wouldn't have it any other way.

So back to the part about rational people, everyone plays this game for their own reasons and in their own way. Some of us like explosions that have some significance, others like chatting and mining or shooting npc's or whatever else it is carebears do. People like you that come in here looking to start fights proclaiming how you're so much better than group x are just an amusing read, very similar to ginger magician and his merry band of disgruntled gate campers, while browsing the forums. Oh sure, I'm taking time to reply to you, I'm sure you'll happily twist that into some victory over someone you know nothing about; but hey, the servers are down and I got nothin better to do

edit: on a side note, you've lost one ship, you have quite a ways to go before being justified in telling others to learn the game.

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Originally by: FHPhantom

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Originally by: doctorstupid2

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Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 19/06/2007 14:09:30

Originally by: FHPhantom

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to any fool or noob that uses the term carebear STFU ok. It's called playing smart. Ask yourself this how many ships did u lose? Myself 1, due to a gate camp by yellow snow, I mean October snow. But also ask yourself this wheres waldo, I mean Ginger


If you play the game as smart as I do, call me Sir, Sire, Boss, God, or even MCPhantom, but carebear STFU and learn the game u noobs

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And that right there is the difference between carebears, and rational people.

I log in to produce killmails. I don't really care if it's my own, it's all about the thrill of the chase and the pretty blue flash. I wouldn't have it any other way.

So back to the part about rational people, everyone plays this game for their own reasons and in their own way. Some of us like explosions that have some significance, others like chatting and mining or shooting npc's or whatever else it is carebears do. People like you that come in here looking to start fights proclaiming how you're so much better than group x are just an amusing read, very similar to ginger magician and his merry band of disgruntled gate campers, while browsing the forums. Oh sure, I'm taking time to reply to you, I'm sure you'll happily twist that into some victory over someone you know nothing about; but hey, the servers are down and I got nothin better to do

edit: on a side note, you've lost one ship, you have quite a ways to go before being justified in telling others to learn the game.

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I agree we all have alott to learn in the game that makes it fun, but dont u agree if Pirates were called "butt Bandits", they would be mad also. I know its only a name carebear, but I'm not that nor ever will be. I leave high sec daily so I just dont like the imature name calling.

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Originally by: Presidente Gallente

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Edited by: Presidente Gallente on 19/06/2007 14:53:51
Carebearing is not playing smart. You don't care about PvP because of your fear to loose always and too many ships in PvP when you are still low-skilled. So you think that one ship loss only is a definition of beeing smart? :-D

Don't take me wrong ... I did mission running = carebearing for a long time till I felt experienced, smart [!] and powerful enough to visit low-sec. Today I fly through low-sec like in high-sec. 0.0 needs a bit more attention.

I lost some BC in mishs due my personal challenge to deal with l4's in a BC solo.
I lost some ships in PvP and to a gate camp. Each loss helped me to learn how to be prepared next time.
I did some hours bootcamp combat training on SISI to get a feeling for different and +perfect½ setups for PvP.

Carebearing is the easy task in high-sec. The ones who never do PvP have different reasons for it. Accepted. No problem.
I will not say carebearing is bad but PvP needs much more than this. So I have to disagree to your original post.

A long time carebear is someone who's employed in a save position. I would not call those pilots noobs because they have their own level of experience. A PvPer is someone doing his own business with all risks at all costs at the end.

I had faced Ginger in a Drake short before he was banned solo in my Myrmidon. I locked him at 10km but I was thinking too much to engage him or not. So +the best PvPer in EVE½ warped out. PvPing needs sometimes nerves out of steel because replacing a Myrmidon is limited and I am forced to go back to carebearing. I know some damn good solo PvPer who do crazy things like tanking a Nyx at a gate for fun. Those guys are far beyond carebears because they take the risk every time to lose something or get podded.

Carebears learn fast how to deal with NPC's AI ... every mish has some kind of walkthrough mechanism at the end. In PvP you are faced to more complex situations with real brains behind it. So you never know how it ends.

From my own experience a typical carebear is just too much chicken-hearted to engage solo or cross the empire border while a real PvPer fought his fear a long time ago and has a heart out of steel. :-D

So say we all o7

Pres G

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Originally by: FHPhantom

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to any fool or noob that uses the term carebear STFU ok. It's called playing smart. Ask yourself this how many ships did u lose? Myself 1, due to a gate camp by yellow snow, I mean October snow. But also ask yourself this wheres waldo, I mean Ginger


If you play the game as smart as I do, call me Sir, Sire, Boss, God, or even MCPhantom, but carebear STFU and learn the game u noobs

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Originally by: milinkoee

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It doesn't matter if they are a PvPer, Miner, mission runner, trader or pirate. The term gets confused with industrial player or PvEer to an extent because most carebears come from those areas. However, there are plenty of "carebears" that call themselves PvPer/pirates.

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