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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 10:27:00 -
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to any fool or noob that uses the term carebear STFU ok. It's called playing smart. Ask yourself this how many ships did u lose? Myself 1, due to a gate camp by yellow snow, I mean October snow. But also ask yourself this wheres waldo, I mean Ginger 
If you play the game as smart as I do, call me Sir, Sire, Boss, God, or even MCPhantom, but carebear STFU and learn the game u noobs 
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Delnas
White-Noise
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.19 10:33:00 -
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If your not a PvPer, your a carebear. Its not a bad thing, its just what you are. If you work in an office, your an office worker. If you fight, your a soldier. If you mine, your a miner. If you mine in EVE, if you mission in EVE, if most of your time is spent on something other then PvP or the search for PvP, your a carebear.
Sure, you may lose less ships. But thats not the point. Unless (and maybe even if) your a carebear, carebearing is not very fun. Fun comes from PvP, atleast in my view.
I may loss more ships then you, but I certainly kill more ships then you, and I can almost guarantee you I have more fun doing it... and Im not even a pirate.
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White-Noise
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jimmyjam
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.06.19 10:34:00 -
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 Originally by: FHPhantom
to any fool or noob that uses the term carebear STFU ok. It's called playing smart. Ask yourself this how many ships did u lose? Myself 1, due to a gate camp by yellow snow, I mean October snow. But also ask yourself this wheres waldo, I mean Ginger
If you play the game as smart as I do, call me Sir, Sire, Boss, God, or even MCPhantom, but carebear STFU and learn the game u noobs
I lol,ed  Cant beleave you wasted your time starting this thread though tbh.
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 10:36:00 -
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Edited by: FHPhantom on 19/06/2007 10:35:38
Originally by: jimmyjam
Originally by: FHPhantom
to any fool or noob that uses the term carebear STFU ok. It's called playing smart. Ask yourself this how many ships did u lose? Myself 1, due to a gate camp by yellow snow, I mean October snow. But also ask yourself this wheres waldo, I mean Ginger
If you play the game as smart as I do, call me Sir, Sire, Boss, God, or even MCPhantom, but carebear STFU and learn the game u noobs
I lol,ed Cant beleave you wasted your time starting this thread though tbh.
well i got u to waste your time reading it didnt I, prooves I'm smarter dosent it  and call me Sir next time show some respect. and Tell Jacko when he reaches 5'2 he can reply that little runt
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.19 10:41:00 -
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The best of october snow now fly in klepto, the worst, well, they dont play so much anymore 
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.19 10:44:00 -
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I think i'm missing something in this thread that others are getting. either this is some sort of joke or you're an egit.
DE
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
The best of october snow now fly in klepto, the worst, well, they dont play so much anymore
tiller makes me also cause bout 4 months ago i mad a thread commenting on some of their bs activity and I got alott of bs responses. seems I was right all along. You cut the head off the body falls.
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Zell
Caldari
The Black Raptors
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Posted - 2007.06.19 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
The best of october snow now fly in klepto, the worst, well, they dont play so much anymore
The best of the worst, is still the worst of the best....
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.19 10:46:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 19/06/2007 10:46:25
Originally by: FHPhantom
You cut the head off the body falls.
...and in this case, grows a better / bigger head
Kleptomaniacs are recruiting evildoers. Channel KLEPTO for info. |
FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 10:46:00 -
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Edited by: FHPhantom on 19/06/2007 10:46:40
Originally by: DarkElf
I think i'm missing something in this thread that others are getting. either this is some sort of joke or you're an egit.
DE
u didnt miss anything except EVE decided to take out the trash. Salute to CCP.
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Na'Kunni
Amarr
Null Horizon
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Posted - 2007.06.19 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: FHPhantom
Edited by: FHPhantom on 19/06/2007 10:35:38
Originally by: jimmyjam
Originally by: FHPhantom
to any fool or noob that uses the term carebear STFU ok. It's called playing smart. Ask yourself this how many ships did u lose? Myself 1, due to a gate camp by yellow snow, I mean October snow. But also ask yourself this wheres waldo, I mean Ginger
If you play the game as smart as I do, call me Sir, Sire, Boss, God, or even MCPhantom, but carebear STFU and learn the game u noobs
I lol,ed Cant beleave you wasted your time starting this thread though tbh.
well i got u to waste your time reading it didnt I, prooves I'm smarter dosent it
LOL PWNT, that I found rather hilarious, other than that FHPhantom... you fail...
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Drasked
North Face Force
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.19 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Zell
Originally by: tiller
The best of october snow now fly in klepto, the worst, well, they dont play so much anymore
The best of the worst, is still the worst of the best....
QFT
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kill0rbunny
Alpha-Hirogen
Phoenix Allianz
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Posted - 2007.06.19 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: kill0rbunny on 19/06/2007 11:20:30
Your style of play sounds like great fun.
Haaaahaaaa I am docked at jita IV smacking you in local, and there's nothin you can do about it.
Yeah, great fun, NOT.
I pew therefore I am.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.06.19 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Delnas
Fun comes from PvP, atleast in my view.
I may loss more ships then you, but I certainly kill more ships then you, and I can almost guarantee you I have more fun doing it... and Im not even a pirate.
There's the mistake right there. That PvP is how you define "fun" in EVE is fine. However, although you cannot personally see it, plenty of us have fun carebearing it and find PvP to not be as fun. One reason I like this game so much are the excellent people I play with and the social aspects that go along with it. While you may find it incomprehensible we actually have a blast mining away in a good group drunkenly chatting (Vent or chat windows) about whatever. It's not mining that is fun...it is the people you are with that are fun. Can't be much more boring than many gate camps anyway in my view.
Bottom line there is no right or wrong answer to what is "fun" in EVE. The correct answer is what is fun for you and different people will answer that differently.
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
Originally by: Delnas
Fun comes from PvP, atleast in my view.
I may loss more ships then you, but I certainly kill more ships then you, and I can almost guarantee you I have more fun doing it... and Im not even a pirate.
There's the mistake right there. That PvP is how you define "fun" in EVE is fine. However, although you cannot personally see it, plenty of us have fun carebearing it and find PvP to not be as fun. One reason I like this game so much are the excellent people I play with and the social aspects that go along with it. While you may find it incomprehensible we actually have a blast mining away in a good group drunkenly chatting (Vent or chat windows) about whatever. It's not mining that is fun...it is the people you are with that are fun. Can't be much more boring than many gate camps anyway in my view.
Bottom line there is no right or wrong answer to what is "fun" in EVE. The correct answer is what is fun for you and different people will answer that differently.
well said bro
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Dano Katiria
adeptus gattacus
Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.06.19 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
Edited by: tiller on 19/06/2007 10:46:25
Originally by: FHPhantom
You cut the head off the body falls.
...and in this case, grows a better / bigger head
just bigger 
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Pilok Shitfly
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.06.19 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: FHPhantom
Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
Originally by: Delnas
Fun comes from PvP, atleast in my view.
I may loss more ships then you, but I certainly kill more ships then you, and I can almost guarantee you I have more fun doing it... and Im not even a pirate.
There's the mistake right there. That PvP is how you define "fun" in EVE is fine. However, although you cannot personally see it, plenty of us have fun carebearing it and find PvP to not be as fun. One reason I like this game so much are the excellent people I play with and the social aspects that go along with it. While you may find it incomprehensible we actually have a blast mining away in a good group drunkenly chatting (Vent or chat windows) about whatever. It's not mining that is fun...it is the people you are with that are fun. Can't be much more boring than many gate camps anyway in my view.
Bottom line there is no right or wrong answer to what is "fun" in EVE. The correct answer is what is fun for you and different people will answer that differently.
well said bro
Oh no, you can't agree here
He said carebear
Originally by: FHPhantom
to any fool or noob that uses the term carebear STFU ok.
You know what you should have said
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iiOs
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.06.19 11:57:00 -
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Delnas
White-Noise
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.19 12:02:00 -
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Edited by: Delnas on 19/06/2007 12:01:27
Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
Originally by: Delnas
Fun comes from PvP, atleast in my view.
I may loss more ships then you, but I certainly kill more ships then you, and I can almost guarantee you I have more fun doing it... and Im not even a pirate.
There's the mistake right there. That PvP is how you define "fun" in EVE is fine. However, although you cannot personally see it, plenty of us have fun carebearing it and find PvP to not be as fun. One reason I like this game so much are the excellent people I play with and the social aspects that go along with it. While you may find it incomprehensible we actually have a blast mining away in a good group drunkenly chatting (Vent or chat windows) about whatever. It's not mining that is fun...it is the people you are with that are fun. Can't be much more boring than many gate camps anyway in my view.
Bottom line there is no right or wrong answer to what is "fun" in EVE. The correct answer is what is fun for you and different people will answer that differently.
As I said, Fun comes from PvP, atleast in my view.
In your view, fun comes from interacting socially while mining it seems.
Neither of us are wrong, and I can still almost guarantee you I have more fun doing it, granted, you could just as easily aurgue the same.
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White-Noise
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Leonie Eisenberg
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Posted - 2007.06.19 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: Delnas
If your not a PvPer, your a carebear. Its not a bad thing, its just what you are. If you work in an office, your an office worker. If you fight, your a soldier. If you mine, your a miner. If you mine in EVE, if you mission in EVE, if most of your time is spent on something other then PvP or the search for PvP, your a carebear.
Sure, you may lose less ships. But thats not the point. Unless (and maybe even if) your a carebear, carebearing is not very fun. Fun comes from PvP, atleast in my view.
I may loss more ships then you, but I certainly kill more ships then you, and I can almost guarantee you I have more fun doing it... and Im not even a pirate.
I don't think so. Too simplistic and POV. Doesn't account for people who think EVE's PvP is lamely deterministic and think the Gank vs One style prevalent (a form of carebearing, btw) in PvP is worth while. It also doesn't account for people who play Eve for reasons other than PvP but do fight/take risks when it's appropriate for accomplishing their goals.
In games where real, human skill (aiming, tactics, etc.) is the most important aspect (as opposed to computer generated abilities through skill points and gear utilized with a limited repertoire of cookie-cutter strategies) you can see "better" PvP. Not a lot of it as most of the time on-line PvP is just a bunch of wanna-be-warriors (who are almost entirely clueless) running around shooting everything that moves because of the lack of consequences to them (no real bruises, no real arms and legs blown off, no real friends dead, no personal death, no living with the consequences of killing another human being in combat...).
Anyway, I think it comes through I think people who crow about their computer PvP are silly. It's just a stupid game with no life-ending, life-altering consequences for anyone but the most psychologically disturbed and, as such, the way you treat others for the way the play the game says volumes about you and little, if anything, about them.
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: iiOs
Edited by: iiOs on 19/06/2007 12:04:42
odd thread
just fact nothing odd bout it
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Ja'kar
Vendetta Underground
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Posted - 2007.06.19 12:29:00 -
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hey dark take achill pill man - u seem ready to jump on everything that moves with hard comments
ot the OP carebear whine a lot say a adapt a lot an dcry very hard when they get killed playing hte game how they want - and not how it can be!
*maybe i neeed a chill pill also
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iiOs
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.06.19 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: FHPhantom
Originally by: iiOs
Edited by: iiOs on 19/06/2007 12:04:42
odd thread
just fact nothing odd bout it
what facts?
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: iiOs
Originally by: FHPhantom
Originally by: iiOs
Edited by: iiOs on 19/06/2007 12:04:42
odd thread
just fact nothing odd bout it
what facts?
sry didnt know you couldnt read bro
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iiOs
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.06.19 12:42:00 -
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Originally by: FHPhantom
Originally by: iiOs
Originally by: FHPhantom
Originally by: iiOs
Edited by: iiOs on 19/06/2007 12:04:42
odd thread
just fact nothing odd bout it
what facts?
sry didnt know you couldnt read bro
to any fool or noob that uses the term carebear STFU ok. It's called playing smart. Ask yourself this how many ships did u lose? Myself 1, due to a gate camp by yellow snow, I mean October snow. But also ask yourself this wheres waldo, I mean Ginger
If you play the game as smart as I do, call me Sir, Sire, Boss, God, or even MCPhantom, but carebear STFU and learn the game u noobs
lots and lots of facts right there, sorry i was wrong
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Na'Kunni
Amarr
Null Horizon
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Posted - 2007.06.19 12:44:00 -
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Edited by: Na''Kunni on 19/06/2007 12:42:43
Originally by: FHPhantom
Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
Originally by: Delnas
Fun comes from PvP, atleast in my view.
I may loss more ships then you, but I certainly kill more ships then you, and I can almost guarantee you I have more fun doing it... and Im not even a pirate.
There's the mistake right there. That PvP is how you define "fun" in EVE is fine. However, although you cannot personally see it, plenty of us have fun carebearing it and find PvP to not be as fun. One reason I like this game so much are the excellent people I play with and the social aspects that go along with it. While you may find it incomprehensible we actually have a blast mining away in a good group drunkenly chatting (Vent or chat windows) about whatever. It's not mining that is fun...it is the people you are with that are fun. Can't be much more boring than many gate camps anyway in my view.
Bottom line there is no right or wrong answer to what is "fun" in EVE. The correct answer is what is fun for you and different people will answer that differently.
well said bro
Originally by: FHPhantom
Originally by: iiOs
Originally by: FHPhantom
Originally by: iiOs
Edited by: iiOs on 19/06/2007 12:04:42
odd thread
just fact nothing odd bout it
what facts?
sry didnt know you couldnt read bro
You must have a large family, I wonder how many more.
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Vandamsel
Gallente
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.19 12:44:00 -
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Edited by: Vandamsel on 19/06/2007 12:43:08
Originally by: FHPhantom
Originally by: iiOs
Originally by: FHPhantom
Originally by: iiOs
Edited by: iiOs on 19/06/2007 12:04:42
odd thread
just fact nothing odd bout it
what facts?
sry didnt know you couldnt read bro
holy ****, u are the *****iest carebear ever, thx for making a pointless thread
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Vandamsel
Edited by: Vandamsel on 19/06/2007 12:43:08
Originally by: FHPhantom
Originally by: iiOs
Originally by: FHPhantom
Originally by: iiOs
Edited by: iiOs on 19/06/2007 12:04:42
odd thread
just fact nothing odd bout it
what facts?
sry didnt know you couldnt read bro
holy ****, u are the *****iest carebear ever, thx for making a pointless thread
I'm modest enough to take that as a compliment ty 
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Sheridonin
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Posted - 2007.06.19 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: FHPhantom
Originally by: iiOs
Originally by: FHPhantom
Originally by: iiOs
Edited by: iiOs on 19/06/2007 12:04:42
odd thread
just fact nothing odd bout it
what facts?
sry didnt know you couldnt read bro
As simply posting "fail" about your lack of wit would most likely be considered spam, I figured I would offer you some constructive criticism on your unskilled written sparring:
1) Purile insults are the reason people left counter-strike, do not attempt to post anything that could have quite reasonably been invented by a 7 year old, reach past your age group a little bit.
2) Often times the best insult is to point out flaws in another's argument, conversely the worst insult is to simply ignore any point another person may have made about your post and keep acting like yours is the "godly" or "MCPhantom" truth.
3) Always attempt to properly, and completely spell out words, I'm sry if u just cant hndle leafing out a few vowels
4) Libel only works in sarcasm, so don't make things up that aren't funny, that kind of thing gets you elected.
5) Trolling/Flaming/Flamebaiting can be good fun, but at least try to be a little inconspicuous about it.
Since I was able to find quite easily 5 flaws in roughly two sentences worth of statements you made (2.5:1 ratio, good work!) I am inclined to believe that carebears are not smart players, and that rather than attempt to help you improve your pathetic posting attempts, I will simply give you a model insult to which you can adapt any situation:
FHPhantom, your mom is a carebear.
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iiOs
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.06.19 13:01:00 -
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sorry, but you failed when you called Carebear = smart player and then called yourself carebear
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 13:03:00 -
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My mom plays EVE mmmmmmmmm, interesting. So in your eyes the insulting of my mother is righetous however. That is trully odd, seeing that your pointing out the fact that your so intelligent. That makes your ratio 1:1 on the pointless scale.
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 13:05:00 -
[32]
Originally by: iiOs
sorry, but you failed when you called Carebear = smart player and then called yourself carebear
I am not a carbear nor will I ever take such a insulting name. I am warrior, a soldier, a demi god.
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T'Renn
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS....
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.19 13:06:00 -
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This thread is tantamount to those people who say (in essence) "Your religion is wrong because my religion is right." It's amazing when you think about at all the wars that have been fought by that badly flawed rationale. You are falling into the ol' "I'm playing Eve the correct way!" trap. No, man - you're playing the game the way you want to play it, just like I play the game the way I want to play it and Tiller plays the way he wants to play. Enjoyment is completely different for each person. Furthermore, it's dynamic. For instance, I don't really personally like piracy all that much anymore. What's to say that you won't have a change of heart after some time and decide to try piracy? You'll look back on this thread and feel pretty stupid tbh.
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 13:06:00 -
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Edited by: FHPhantom on 19/06/2007 13:06:03
and quite bored now. So plz stick to topic guys ok. I don't mind sarcasim etc but no drama ok, I don't do drama.
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 13:07:00 -
[35]
Edited by: FHPhantom on 19/06/2007 13:05:49
Originally by: T'Renn
This thread is tantamount to those people who say (in essence) "Your religion is wrong because my religion is right." It's amazing when you think about at all the wars that have been fought by that badly flawed rationale. You are falling into the ol' "I'm playing Eve the correct way!" trap. No, man - you're playing the game the way you want to play it, just like I play the game the way I want to play it and Tiller plays the way he wants to play. Enjoyment is completely different for each person. Furthermore, it's dynamic. For instance, I don't really personally like piracy all that much anymore. What's to say that you won't have a change of heart after some time and decide to try piracy? You'll look back on this thread and feel pretty stupid tbh.
bro I agree 100% with you, but I hate when people generalize and use the term carebear, thats the point I made, and made crystal clear.
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iiOs
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.06.19 13:08:00 -
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as some already stated, carebear is just a term for some who doesnt pvp, no one say that it is a wrong way to play the game or anything, you pay for the game, you play as you like, what is the point of this thread again?
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A wiseman
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Posted - 2007.06.19 13:08:00 -
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Quote:
well i got u to waste your time reading it didnt I, prooves I'm smarter dosent it and call me Sir next time show some respect. and Tell Jacko when he reaches 5'2 he can reply that little runt
hehe sounds like somones been solo'ed by a 4month old piwate one to many times. i did the carebear thing for a month cose i heard it made the best cash but i found myself going into lowsec for the fun never looked back. you might be rich but by the sounds of your attitude you need to kill somthing fast
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 13:11:00 -
[38]
Originally by: iiOs
as some already stated, carebear is just a term for some who doesnt pvp, no one say that it is a wrong way to play the game or anything, you pay for the game, you play as you like, what is the point of this thread again?
dude quit asking the same over and over ok. The point is fact carebear is what? there is no such thing in this game. I'ts a derogatory term that should not be used.
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Pilok Shitfly
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.06.19 13:18:00 -
[39]
Edited by: Pilok ****fly on 19/06/2007 13:17:41
Originally by: FHPhantom
Originally by: iiOs
as some already stated, carebear is just a term for some who doesnt pvp, no one say that it is a wrong way to play the game or anything, you pay for the game, you play as you like, what is the point of this thread again?
dude quit asking the same over and over ok. The point is fact carebear is what? there is no such thing in this game. I'ts a derogatory term that should not be used.
Calling you a carebear is an insult to all the other carebears
Stop calling FHPhantom a carebear 
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iiOs
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.06.19 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: FHPhantom
Originally by: iiOs
as some already stated, carebear is just a term for some who doesnt pvp, no one say that it is a wrong way to play the game or anything, you pay for the game, you play as you like, what is the point of this thread again?
dude quit asking the same over and over ok. The point is fact carebear is what? there is no such thing in this game. I'ts a derogatory term that should not be used.
you saying that there is no carebears in this game? or?
nothing wrong with that term.
btw there is a word called "sence" heard of it?
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iiOs
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.06.19 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Pilok ****fly
Edited by: Pilok ****fly on 19/06/2007 13:17:41
Originally by: FHPhantom
Originally by: iiOs
as some already stated, carebear is just a term for some who doesnt pvp, no one say that it is a wrong way to play the game or anything, you pay for the game, you play as you like, what is the point of this thread again?
dude quit asking the same over and over ok. The point is fact carebear is what? there is no such thing in this game. I'ts a derogatory term that should not be used.
Calling you a carebear is an insult to all the other carebears
Stop calling FHPhantom a carebear
he calls himself carebear!!!
I think carebears should unite and pod him for it again and again and again
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 13:25:00 -
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Edited by: FHPhantom on 19/06/2007 13:25:42
Edited by: FHPhantom on 19/06/2007 13:25:06
keep to topic plz. I'm not a carbear or what ever that stands for or means. Never will be. That's insultive in nature. I play the game my way and i play it smart. I will accept invitations to only the top corps.
I play as a team player and have a 5:1 ratio in pvp kills. I also play a mean guitar, the women can't get enough of me, I can't dance but can dunk a basketball.
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Pilok Shitfly
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.06.19 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: FHPhantom
i will accept invitations to only the top corps.
I play as a team player and have a 5:1 ratio in pvp kills. I also play a mean guitar, the women can't get enough of me, I can't dance but can dunk a basketball.
You do know braincells die when drinking to much alcohol?
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.19 13:32:00 -
[44]
Originally by: FHPhantom
Edited by: FHPhantom on 19/06/2007 13:25:42
Edited by: FHPhantom on 19/06/2007 13:25:06
keep to topic plz. I'm not a carbear or what ever that stands for or means. Never will be. That's insultive in nature. I play the game my way and i play it smart. I will accept invitations to only the top corps.
I play as a team player and have a 5:1 ratio in pvp kills. I also play a mean guitar, the women can't get enough of me, I can't dance but can dunk a basketball.
5:1 ratio? you mean for every 5 ships you kill you lose 1? damn you must have a good ship supplier.
DE
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Commoner
Caldari
Emergent Chaos
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.06.19 13:34:00 -
[45]
I disagree with the OP.
Theres smart pirates which captures not smart carebears. Then theres smart carebears which are smart enough to avoid getting ganked by dumb pierates. Then theres smart pirates which might catch a smart carebear.
This all boils down to that you do what you're best at....Tiller and co. are good at capturing reckless carebears or autopiloters.
So.....
The worst pvp'er in EVE :
http://www.battleclinic.com/kill_sigs/signature_display.php?string=Commoner |
Na'Kunni
Amarr
Null Horizon
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Posted - 2007.06.19 13:34:00 -
[46]
Edited by: Na''Kunni on 19/06/2007 13:33:23
Originally by: FHPhantom
Originally by: Vandamsel
Edited by: Vandamsel on 19/06/2007 12:43:08
Originally by: FHPhantom
Originally by: iiOs
Originally by: FHPhantom
Originally by: iiOs
Edited by: iiOs on 19/06/2007 12:04:42
odd thread
just fact nothing odd bout it
what facts?
sry didnt know you couldnt read bro
holy ****, u are the *****iest carebear ever, thx for making a pointless thread
I'm modest enough to take that as a compliment ty
ooooh your family ends there i guess...
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Na'Kunni
Amarr
Null Horizon
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Posted - 2007.06.19 13:37:00 -
[47]
Originally by: T'Renn
This thread is tantamount to those people who say (in essence) "Your religion is wrong because my religion is right.
/me cheers
I live in Essence!!!
/me Cheers even more
OP come to Essence and share the carebearing fun
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 13:40:00 -
[48]
I forgot to mention, I like alternative music, and my martinis stirred not shaken.
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iiOs
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.06.19 13:53:00 -
[49]
Originally by: FHPhantom
Edited by: FHPhantom on 19/06/2007 13:25:42
Edited by: FHPhantom on 19/06/2007 13:25:06
keep to topic plz. I'm not a carbear or what ever that stands for or means. Never will be. That's insultive in nature. I play the game my way and i play it smart. I will accept invitations to only the top corps.
I play as a team player and have a 5:1 ratio in pvp kills. I also play a mean guitar, the women can't get enough of me, I can't dance but can dunk a basketball.
you said Carebears = smart players, then you call yourself smart player, and you say you are not carebear
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Neerea
Caldari
FluFuMju
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Posted - 2007.06.19 13:56:00 -
[50]
Hmm first Boob head then this guy.
Whats wrong with those carebears?
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 14:09:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Neerea
Hmm first Boob head then this guy.
Whats wrong with those carebears?
who is this boob head u speak of
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.19 14:10:00 -
[52]
Originally by: FHPhantom
to any fool or noob that uses the term carebear STFU ok. It's called playing smart. Ask yourself this how many ships did u lose? Myself 1, due to a gate camp by yellow snow, I mean October snow. But also ask yourself this wheres waldo, I mean Ginger
If you play the game as smart as I do, call me Sir, Sire, Boss, God, or even MCPhantom, but carebear STFU and learn the game u noobs
And that right there is the difference between carebears, and rational people.
I log in to produce killmails. I don't really care if it's my own, it's all about the thrill of the chase and the pretty blue flash. I wouldn't have it any other way.
So back to the part about rational people, everyone plays this game for their own reasons and in their own way. Some of us like explosions that have some significance, others like chatting and mining or shooting npc's or whatever else it is carebears do. People like you that come in here looking to start fights proclaiming how you're so much better than group x are just an amusing read, very similar to ginger magician and his merry band of disgruntled gate campers, while browsing the forums. Oh sure, I'm taking time to reply to you, I'm sure you'll happily twist that into some victory over someone you know nothing about; but hey, the servers are down and I got nothin better to do 
Steel Rat > if they only knew we make this **** up as we go |
FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 14:15:00 -
[53]
Originally by: doctorstupid2
Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 19/06/2007 14:09:30
Originally by: FHPhantom
to any fool or noob that uses the term carebear STFU ok. It's called playing smart. Ask yourself this how many ships did u lose? Myself 1, due to a gate camp by yellow snow, I mean October snow. But also ask yourself this wheres waldo, I mean Ginger
If you play the game as smart as I do, call me Sir, Sire, Boss, God, or even MCPhantom, but carebear STFU and learn the game u noobs
And that right there is the difference between carebears, and rational people.
I log in to produce killmails. I don't really care if it's my own, it's all about the thrill of the chase and the pretty blue flash. I wouldn't have it any other way.
So back to the part about rational people, everyone plays this game for their own reasons and in their own way. Some of us like explosions that have some significance, others like chatting and mining or shooting npc's or whatever else it is carebears do. People like you that come in here looking to start fights proclaiming how you're so much better than group x are just an amusing read, very similar to ginger magician and his merry band of disgruntled gate campers, while browsing the forums. Oh sure, I'm taking time to reply to you, I'm sure you'll happily twist that into some victory over someone you know nothing about; but hey, the servers are down and I got nothin better to do
edit: on a side note, you've lost one ship, you have quite a ways to go before being justified in telling others to learn the game.
I agree we all have alott to learn in the game that makes it fun, but dont u agree if Pirates were called "butt Bandits", they would be mad also. I know its only a name carebear, but I'm not that nor ever will be. I leave high sec daily so I just dont like the imature name calling.
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Presidente Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.19 14:44:00 -
[54]
Edited by: Presidente Gallente on 19/06/2007 14:53:51
Carebearing is not playing smart. You don't care about PvP because of your fear to loose always and too many ships in PvP when you are still low-skilled. So you think that one ship loss only is a definition of beeing smart? :-D
Don't take me wrong ... I did mission running = carebearing for a long time till I felt experienced, smart [!] and powerful enough to visit low-sec. Today I fly through low-sec like in high-sec. 0.0 needs a bit more attention.
I lost some BC in mishs due my personal challenge to deal with l4's in a BC solo.
I lost some ships in PvP and to a gate camp. Each loss helped me to learn how to be prepared next time.
I did some hours bootcamp combat training on SISI to get a feeling for different and +perfect½ setups for PvP.
Carebearing is the easy task in high-sec. The ones who never do PvP have different reasons for it. Accepted. No problem.
I will not say carebearing is bad but PvP needs much more than this. So I have to disagree to your original post.
A long time carebear is someone who's employed in a save position. I would not call those pilots noobs because they have their own level of experience. A PvPer is someone doing his own business with all risks at all costs at the end.
I had faced Ginger in a Drake short before he was banned solo in my Myrmidon. I locked him at 10km but I was thinking too much to engage him or not. So +the best PvPer in EVE½ warped out. PvPing needs sometimes nerves out of steel because replacing a Myrmidon is limited and I am forced to go back to carebearing. I know some damn good solo PvPer who do crazy things like tanking a Nyx at a gate for fun. Those guys are far beyond carebears because they take the risk every time to lose something or get podded.
Carebears learn fast how to deal with NPC's AI ... every mish has some kind of walkthrough mechanism at the end. In PvP you are faced to more complex situations with real brains behind it. So you never know how it ends.
From my own experience a typical carebear is just too much chicken-hearted to engage solo or cross the empire border while a real PvPer fought his fear a long time ago and has a heart out of steel. :-D
So say we all o7
Pres G
+++ JOIN PAP +++ |
Zaphod Jones
Minmatar
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.19 14:52:00 -
[55]
Ginger has been banned and cant post on forums
FHPantsdown likes seeing his own name up on forums
co-incidence ?
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.19 14:54:00 -
[56]
Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 19/06/2007 14:53:57
Originally by: FHPhantom
Originally by: doctorstupid2
Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 19/06/2007 14:09:30
Originally by: FHPhantom
to any fool or noob that uses the term carebear STFU ok. It's called playing smart. Ask yourself this how many ships did u lose? Myself 1, due to a gate camp by yellow snow, I mean October snow. But also ask yourself this wheres waldo, I mean Ginger
If you play the game as smart as I do, call me Sir, Sire, Boss, God, or even MCPhantom, but carebear STFU and learn the game u noobs
And that right there is the difference between carebears, and rational people.
I log in to produce killmails. I don't really care if it's my own, it's all about the thrill of the chase and the pretty blue flash. I wouldn't have it any other way.
So back to the part about rational people, everyone plays this game for their own reasons and in their own way. Some of us like explosions that have some significance, others like chatting and mining or shooting npc's or whatever else it is carebears do. People like you that come in here looking to start fights proclaiming how you're so much better than group x are just an amusing read, very similar to ginger magician and his merry band of disgruntled gate campers, while browsing the forums. Oh sure, I'm taking time to reply to you, I'm sure you'll happily twist that into some victory over someone you know nothing about; but hey, the servers are down and I got nothin better to do
edit: on a side note, you've lost one ship, you have quite a ways to go before being justified in telling others to learn the game.
I agree we all have alott to learn in the game that makes it fun, but dont u agree if Pirates were called "butt Bandits", they would be mad also. I know its only a name carebear, but I'm not that nor ever will be. I leave high sec daily so I just dont like the imature name calling.
So if I follow you then, you don't like being called a carebear, a problem to which your solution was to troll the forums asserting your intellectual superiority over pvpers, stating you should be adressed as "sir" or "boss?" You don't like the immature name calling so you proclaim loudly in your first post, and following posts, that you're smarter than thousands of people you've never had any interaction with, let alone know a damned thing about? Right.
<---- Reason is over here
You're way the hell over here in la-la land -------------------->
Steel Rat > if they only knew we make this **** up as we go |
FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 15:29:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Presidente Gallente
Edited by: Presidente Gallente on 19/06/2007 14:53:51
Carebearing is not playing smart. You don't care about PvP because of your fear to loose always and too many ships in PvP when you are still low-skilled. So you think that one ship loss only is a definition of beeing smart? :-D
Don't take me wrong ... I did mission running = carebearing for a long time till I felt experienced, smart [!] and powerful enough to visit low-sec. Today I fly through low-sec like in high-sec. 0.0 needs a bit more attention.
I lost some BC in mishs due my personal challenge to deal with l4's in a BC solo.
I lost some ships in PvP and to a gate camp. Each loss helped me to learn how to be prepared next time.
I did some hours bootcamp combat training on SISI to get a feeling for different and +perfect½ setups for PvP.
Carebearing is the easy task in high-sec. The ones who never do PvP have different reasons for it. Accepted. No problem.
I will not say carebearing is bad but PvP needs much more than this. So I have to disagree to your original post.
A long time carebear is someone who's employed in a save position. I would not call those pilots noobs because they have their own level of experience. A PvPer is someone doing his own business with all risks at all costs at the end.
I had faced Ginger in a Drake short before he was banned solo in my Myrmidon. I locked him at 10km but I was thinking too much to engage him or not. So +the best PvPer in EVE½ warped out. PvPing needs sometimes nerves out of steel because replacing a Myrmidon is limited and I am forced to go back to carebearing. I know some damn good solo PvPer who do crazy things like tanking a Nyx at a gate for fun. Those guys are far beyond carebears because they take the risk every time to lose something or get podded.
Carebears learn fast how to deal with NPC's AI ... every mish has some kind of walkthrough mechanism at the end. In PvP you are faced to more complex situations with real brains behind it. So you never know how it ends.
From my own experience a typical carebear is just too much chicken-hearted to engage solo or cross the empire border while a real PvPer fought his fear a long time ago and has a heart out of steel. :-D
So say we all o7
Pres G
very well said. On a side not I knew ginger and had conversed with him several times, I wont speak of the past but his situation happened.
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milinkoee
Bastage Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.06.19 15:35:00 -
[58]
Carebear = Someone who whines when they lose a ship. They "care" to much about their virtual possessions, and get angry when someone takes them from them. They play the game more like stamp collectors trying to amass isk and stuff so they can look at it in a hangar and don't want to have it put at risk through non-consensual PvP.
It doesn't matter if they are a PvPer, Miner, mission runner, trader or pirate. The term gets confused with industrial player or PvEer to an extent because most carebears come from those areas. However, there are plenty of "carebears" that call themselves PvPer/pirates.
Bastage, Inc.
Worst Pirates Ever!!! |
General Coochie
Gallente
New Justice
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.19 15:44:00 -
[59]
Originally by: FHPhantom
to any fool or noob that uses the term carebear STFU ok. It's called playing smart. Ask yourself this how many ships did u lose? Myself 1, due to a gate camp by yellow snow, I mean October snow. But also ask yourself this wheres waldo, I mean Ginger
If you play the game as smart as I do, call me Sir, Sire, Boss, God, or even MCPhantom, but carebear STFU and learn the game u noobs
'
Since Smart doesnt = fun. Who cares?
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Trak Cranker
Feral Tendency
Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.19 15:44:00 -
[60]
Originally by: milinkoee
It doesn't matter if they are a PvPer, Miner, mission runner, trader or pirate. The term gets confused with industrial player or PvEer to an extent because most carebears come from those areas. However, there are plenty of "carebears" that call themselves PvPer/pirates.
Exactly. I have seen plenty of pirates and other people that would refer to themselves as pvp'ers, having several of the characteristica of a carebear.
And I have seen plenty of miners, producers and traders having balls of steel and work with high risk/big reward scenarios.
Carebears are the ones that will work the low risk scenario and moan even when that risk manifests itself. The moaning being the defining part. Their wet dream is the game where there is no opposition or loss, but only aquisition.
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Delnas
White-Noise
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.19 15:57:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Trak Cranker
Originally by: milinkoee
It doesn't matter if they are a PvPer, Miner, mission runner, trader or pirate. The term gets confused with industrial player or PvEer to an extent because most carebears come from those areas. However, there are plenty of "carebears" that call themselves PvPer/pirates.
Exactly. I have seen plenty of pirates and other people that would refer to themselves as pvp'ers, having several of the characteristica of a carebear.
And I have seen plenty of miners, producers and traders having balls of steel and work with high risk/big reward scenarios.
Carebears are the ones that will work the low risk scenario and moan even when that risk manifests itself. The moaning being the defining part. Their wet dream is the game where there is no opposition or loss, but only aquisition.
I think thats the best definition of a carebear I've heard. o.O
My definition never took into account gate gankers, and blobbers.
****
White-Noise
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ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2007.06.19 15:58:00 -
[62]
Originally by: General Coochie
Since Smart doesnt = fun. Who cares?
Exactly!
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milinkoee
Bastage Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.06.19 15:59:00 -
[63]
Exactly, it is about your attitude with respect to losses and not about your in-game occupation.
Bastage, Inc.
Worst Pirates Ever!!! |
Shadow Raziel
RED SQUAD
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Posted - 2007.06.19 16:08:00 -
[64]
did mom told you to go to the forums and whine there about the people calling you carebear?
what a sad little carebear you are ^^
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 16:08:00 -
[65]
true, getting anxious to play ty's for the good text to thoose who replied.
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Drunk Driver
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.19 16:52:00 -
[66]
Originally by: FHPhantom
to any fool or noob that uses the term carebear STFU ok. It's called playing smart. Ask yourself this how many ships did u lose? Myself 1, due to a gate camp by yellow snow, I mean October snow. But also ask yourself this wheres waldo, I mean Ginger
If you play the game as smart as I do, call me Sir, Sire, Boss, God, or even MCPhantom, but carebear STFU and learn the game u noobs
You smell funny.
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 17:08:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Drunk Driver
Originally by: FHPhantom
to any fool or noob that uses the term carebear STFU ok. It's called playing smart. Ask yourself this how many ships did u lose? Myself 1, due to a gate camp by yellow snow, I mean October snow. But also ask yourself this wheres waldo, I mean Ginger
If you play the game as smart as I do, call me Sir, Sire, Boss, God, or even MCPhantom, but carebear STFU and learn the game u noobs
I showered today 
You smell funny.
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Oregon sinful
Corp 1 Allstars
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Posted - 2007.06.19 17:16:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Oregon sinful on 19/06/2007 17:16:02
The OP is just a narcissistic, whiner.
YOU FAIL
That's for you.
EDIT: Why is this still in C+P?
Oregon Sinful - The Original Sin - Personnel Director
Killboard...We PWN!!! |
pyrofox
mUfFiN fAcToRy
Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.06.19 17:33:00 -
[69]
You've just given me verbal constipation!
Ughh Ughhh How ! Why!
Tell me its not you !!! Noob!!!!
It even says so in wikipedi.
The term carebear is used to describe players of MMORPG's who never fight other players; only the computer controlled enemies.
And alt boy if your just wanting the attention, then shame on you...
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Faekurias
Caldari
Federation Fleet
Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.06.19 18:23:00 -
[70]
No.
TINY KITTEH :( >:)
Oh mai GOD! |
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Anton Chekhov
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Posted - 2007.06.19 18:41:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Leonie Eisenberg
Originally by: Delnas
If your not a PvPer, your a carebear. Its not a bad thing, its just what you are. If you work in an office, your an office worker. If you fight, your a soldier. If you mine, your a miner. If you mine in EVE, if you mission in EVE, if most of your time is spent on something other then PvP or the search for PvP, your a carebear.
Sure, you may lose less ships. But thats not the point. Unless (and maybe even if) your a carebear, carebearing is not very fun. Fun comes from PvP, atleast in my view.
I may loss more ships then you, but I certainly kill more ships then you, and I can almost guarantee you I have more fun doing it... and Im not even a pirate.
I don't think so. Too simplistic and POV. Doesn't account for people who think EVE's PvP is lamely deterministic and think the Gank vs One style prevalent (a form of carebearing, btw) in PvP is worth while. It also doesn't account for people who play Eve for reasons other than PvP but do fight/take risks when it's appropriate for accomplishing their goals.
In games where real, human skill (aiming, tactics, etc.) is the most important aspect (as opposed to computer generated abilities through skill points and gear utilized with a limited repertoire of cookie-cutter strategies) you can see "better" PvP. Not a lot of it as most of the time on-line PvP is just a bunch of wanna-be-warriors (who are almost entirely clueless) running around shooting everything that moves because of the lack of consequences to them (no real bruises, no real arms and legs blown off, no real friends dead, no personal death, no living with the consequences of killing another human being in combat...).
Anyway, I think it comes through I think people who crow about their computer PvP are silly. It's just a stupid game with no life-ending, life-altering consequences for anyone but the most psychologically disturbed and, as such, the way you treat others for the way the play the game says volumes about you and little, if anything, about them.
Truth.
Ime forced to support the original poster, at least in spirit. The primary problem lies in definition, as nobody here can produce a consistent agreed-upon standard as to what constitutes a "carebear."It is not an empirical statement but rather at best a statement of preference. Therefore it is essentially a meaningless, subjective statement that can be explained as having whatever meaning one wishes to assign to it at the moment in accordance with one's EVE philosophy.
Lacking a real standard for the term, Carebear is most often used as a pejorative for someone who is weak or false and is often applied to the industrial classes of the game. I would basically characterize this as typical PvP elitism, present in one form or another in every other popular online game. And this elitism is hollow and foolish, as the ships they drive and the equiptment they use is produced by the economy who's driving forces they disdain as weak. I note that this attitude is most prevalent among those who choose to prey on the "carebears" who drive the economy instead of routinely engaging others in combat at their skill and level of preparedness. All put together, there is no basis for the term carebear to exist or to be used, as it is a subjective term applied as a pejorative to those who empirically play a much more productive and vital role in the game than those who, like a parasite, mindlessly destroy the hand that feeds them.
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pyrofox
mUfFiN fAcToRy
Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.06.19 19:40:00 -
[72]
Originally by: FHPhantom
Edited by: FHPhantom on 19/06/2007 13:25:42
Edited by: FHPhantom on 19/06/2007 13:25:06
keep to topic plz. I'm not a carbear or what ever that stands for or means. Never will be. That's insultive in nature. I play the game my way and i play it smart. I will accept invitations to only the top corps.
I play as a team player and have a 5:1 ratio in pvp kills. I also play a mean guitar, ******the women can't get enough of me*********, I can't dance but can dunk a basketball.
Wot like please make your mind up DUUUUUDDDDDE!! your a carebear or so fat there it too much to go round ?
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 20:18:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Sheridonin
Always attempt to properly, and completely spell out words, I'm sry if u just cant hndle leafing out a few vowels
 Practice what u preech dude
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kill0rbunny
Alpha-Hirogen
Phoenix Allianz
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Posted - 2007.06.19 20:40:00 -
[74]
Can someone end this crap?
I pew therefore I am.
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2007.06.19 20:41:00 -
[75]
Originally by: tiller
The best of october snow now fly in klepto, the worst, well, they dont play so much anymore
Lolerskates! Let's see if I can drop a plug for myself and my corp in as many threads as possible, regardless of whether or not it has anything to do with the OPs thread.
-Karlemgne
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free. |
Armando Rene
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.06.19 20:43:00 -
[76]
Quote:
Carebear = Someone who whines when they lose a ship. They "care" to much about their virtual possessions, and get angry when someone takes them from them. They play the game more like stamp collectors trying to amass isk and stuff so they can look at it in a hangar and don't want to have it put at risk through non-consensual PvP.
It doesn't matter if they are a PvPer, Miner, mission runner, trader or pirate. The term gets confused with industrial player or PvEer to an extent because most carebears come from those areas. However, there are plenty of "carebears" that call themselves PvPer/pirates.
QFT
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FHZarrak
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Posted - 2007.06.19 20:54:00 -
[77]
why all the hostility towards phantom?
is there really any reason for people to get so abusive on here about somthing so minor?
its not as if he is insulting a player group ..he is simply trying to justify the way he plays the game without being branded some cheesy name imho.
just my 2 cents
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 20:56:00 -
[78]
Originally by: FHZarrak
why all the hostility towards phantom?
is there really any reason for people to get so abusive on here about somthing so minor?
its not as if he is insulting a player group ..he is simply trying to justify the way he plays the game without being branded some cheesy name imho.
just my 2 cents
well said
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Zardenim
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:03:00 -
[79]
Some people don't measure their gameplay experience through loss/gain ratio alone. To call yourself better than those who don't, or those who play the game differently, is arrogant and absurd, end of story.
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FHZarrak
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:05:00 -
[80]
there is plenty of arrogance in eve and alot on this thread ..
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Zardenim
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:07:00 -
[81]
Originally by: FHZarrak
there is plenty of arrogance in eve and alot on this thread ..
Indeed. My post could refference any one of those people, not just the OP, mind you.
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:08:00 -
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The Revelations II deployment is proceeding nicely. The client autopatcher has been enabled and the Patch Download page has been updated with the new patch.
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Community Manager,
EVE Online, CCP Games
Email/Netfang
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Ren Surkova
The Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: FHZarrak
why all the hostility towards phantom?
is there really any reason for people to get so abusive on here about somthing so minor?
its not as if he is insulting a player group ..he is simply trying to justify the way he plays the game without being branded some cheesy name imho.
just my 2 cents
why indeed FHZarrak, I think FHPhantom is just dreamy, and i'm not even his alt
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FHZarrak
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:24:00 -
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lol im not his alt we are from the same FH community but i am far from being his alt i assure you
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:28:00 -
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500 second countdown 
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:37:00 -
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:44:00 -
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Edited by: FHPhantom on 19/06/2007 21:43:10
My inside source aka Deep Throat says "the whole 24hrs will be used until its fully operational, due to staffing. GM's wont sit there hoping it comes on early ".
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Fable Hike
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:53:00 -
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¦dont bump this crap thread...
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 22:08:00 -
[89]
24 hrs is a small amount of time to wait for such a great game. salute to the devolpers, CCP and everyone who makes this game great. goodnight all cya manna
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Devian 666
Axe Gang
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Posted - 2007.06.19 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Delnas
If your not a PvPer, your a carebear. Its not a bad thing, its just what you are. If you work in an office, your an office worker. If you fight, your a soldier. If you mine, your a miner. If you mine in EVE, if you mission in EVE, if most of your time is spent on something other then PvP or the search for PvP, your a carebear.
Sure, you may lose less ships. But thats not the point. Unless (and maybe even if) your a carebear, carebearing is not very fun. Fun comes from PvP, atleast in my view.
I may loss more ships then you, but I certainly kill more ships then you, and I can almost guarantee you I have more fun doing it... and Im not even a pirate.
Actually if you don't pvp you might be a carebear. I regard carebears as the smacktalking useless player that make good sport to camp and they might even consider themselves a pvper. Industrials and miners aren't necessarily carebears in my eyes, and there's nothing to stop people from working in more than one profession in eve.
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Detrol
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.06.19 22:19:00 -
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Edited by: Detrol on 19/06/2007 22:18:37
Originally by: FHPhantom
Ask yourself this how many ships did u lose? Myself 1, due to a gate camp by yellow snow,
Originally by: FHPhantom
I play as a team player and have a 5:1 ratio in pvp kills.
So you killed 5 ships in total then?
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Wraith Brutor
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Posted - 2007.06.19 22:31:00 -
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"The term carebear is used to describe players of MMORPG's who never fight other players; only the computer controlled enemies."
If Wikipedia says it, it must be true 
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.06.19 23:06:00 -
[93]
Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 19/06/2007 23:06:36
Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 19/06/2007 23:05:55
I prefer Urban Dictionary's definition of Carebear
Includes Eve Online definition
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Corwain
Gallente
Zero Team
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Posted - 2007.06.19 23:19:00 -
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You say you are smart because you refuse to PvP, you just PvE all day and buy better ships that you never lose?
You're a means without an end. You have no point in playing, and that's not smart. That's a waste of time.
PvP has a point, weather its getting better at PvP, or controlling space, whatever it may be.
So smart guy, who in EVE knows who the heck you are? That's right. You're nobody.
Who in EVE knows who BoB, MC, Outbreak, Veto, Privateers, Guiding Hand Social Club are? Even corps and alliances that are not alive today are known: ASCN, MoO, Ubiquia Seraph...
Also lots of people know who Selene, Verone, Dark Elf, lofty29, tiller, Ginger Magician etc. are. You know why? Because these personalities and corporations have the ability to influence the game. You don't influence much just PvEing all day. You could make lots of ISK, but until you spend it to do something worthwhile besides being able to take screens of you in a fancy ship it's just a number on a server somewhere.
I mean lots of people can buy a Vindicator, but only a few can actually fly it in a way that shakes the battlefield when they arrive.
You weren't worth the time it took me to write this post, carebear.
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Dr Cron
Northern Lights Number 5
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Posted - 2007.06.19 23:36:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Cron on 19/06/2007 23:41:14
Originally by: Corwain
You say you are smart because you refuse to PvP, you just PvE all day and buy better ships that you never lose?
You're a means without an end. You have no point in playing, and that's not smart. That's a waste of time.
PvP has a point, weather its getting better at PvP, or controlling space, whatever it may be.
So smart guy, who in EVE knows who the heck you are? That's right. You're nobody.
Who in EVE knows who BoB, MC, Outbreak, Veto, Privateers, Guiding Hand Social Club are? Even corps and alliances that are not alive today are known: ASCN, MoO, Ubiquia Seraph...
Also lots of people know who Selene, Verone, Dark Elf, lofty29, tiller, Ginger Magician etc. are. You know why? Because these personalities and corporations have the ability to influence the game. You don't influence much just PvEing all day. You could make lots of ISK, but until you spend it to do something worthwhile besides being able to take screens of you in a fancy ship it's just a number on a server somewhere.
I mean lots of people can buy a Vindicator, but only a few can actually fly it in a way that shakes the battlefield when they arrive.
You weren't worth the time it took me to write this post, carebear.
This.
(edit: although most of the player names u listed are primarily famous due to forum whoring, so maybe this carebear has a chance)
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Nolene
War Crimes
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Posted - 2007.06.20 02:14:00 -
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let me ask yousomething mr smart player, master of all things mission and mining...
I bring in about 3 billion a month from doing very little real work and pvp daily. I lose ships, but I don't care...do you know why? Because im rich enough to do whatever the hell i want.
I am "enjoying" eve, as eve was meant to be played. You can sit in empire and kill roids, or run missions all you want. You don't deserve a cookie, or deserve a name anything other then a carebear, which is exactly what you are.
Grow a pair, train some skills and kill something other then veldspar if you don't want the title.
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Rudy Metallo
Crimson Squall
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.20 02:43:00 -
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Another "LOL I R SMRT!" thread spawned from the bitterness of death?
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Sophia Furies
Gallente
The Nine Gates
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.06.21 11:45:00 -
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Im a pvp/carebear hybrid lawlz
i spend 1 hour a day trading rest of the day drunk and wanderin belts and primarying veldspar oO?
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Kehmor
Caldari
The Movement
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Posted - 2007.06.21 11:54:00 -
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My scaming alt that has never undocked, has you beat. never died once. Looks like i'm the smartest player in eve.
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Faekurias
Caldari
Federation Fleet
Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.06.21 19:58:00 -
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Edited by: Faekurias on 21/06/2007 19:57:16
I vote Kechmud, I mean Kehmor for winrar
Edit: Name
The ladies man.
MY sign was wrongfully hijacked!:( Seriously, give back emokitteh. :<
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Laken Verlo
Icarus' Wings
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Posted - 2007.06.21 23:21:00 -
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i dont mind people calling me a carebear. i do mainly run missions and have a production alt but i also hunt pirates when im bored and have a nice tally to my name. i think in eve its become a term thats used in reference to all empire space dwellers but as stated previously, its we empire dwellers that keep the market in eve stable. without us building in almost complete safety u'd have inflation and of course nothing to shoot at .
conclusion (yes i have one ) = no type of gaming type can be considered more fun than the other, having experienced both pvp and mission running they both have there merits and disadvantages, it just depends on the individual. and to all those pvp'ers who have the holier than tho attitude, shove it up ur arse , nearly everyone here has played a game where u fight a computer, C&C, FEAR, STALKER etc. all good games (ok debatable but u get the idea). just because you go around shooting at players (and nine times out of ten the ones who think they're better than everyone else will run at an equal fight) doesnt make u a demi god .
N.B. this is not aimed at all PVP'ers as ive had a lot of good chats in local after both winning and losing a fight, just to the minority that dont have a clue how the eve market works and where their lovely mods come from (wether brought or looted, both are normally the end result of carebear actions )
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Laken Verlo
Icarus' Wings
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Posted - 2007.06.21 23:23:00 -
[102]
oh and phantom, tbh mate u seem to be one of the most arogant players ive met and thats the only thing in this game that is irritating. u cant criticise pvp'ers for "calling u names" and then go and say ur better than them... think it through first buddy.
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.23 11:05:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Laken Verlo
oh and phantom, tbh mate u seem to be one of the most arogant players ive met
Modestly accepted as a compliment ty
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enjoi
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.23 11:52:00 -
[104]
you're still a carebear.
-enjoi-
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.23 16:53:00 -
[105]
Originally by: enjoi
you're still a carebear.
No I'm not u are. TBH. Anyhow onto some interesting topic for all, EVEN noobs mY INSIGHT FOR THE WEEK IS: Faction cruise missiles over tech 2. why well downside more cap use, but upside all the same qualities in the damage dept, and a few other.
Phantom's choice go faction.
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TheJacko
Gallente
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.06.23 17:01:00 -
[106]
rofl at the****est thred ever :D
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VicturusTeSaluto
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Posted - 2007.06.23 17:49:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Delnas
If your not a PvPer, your a carebear. Its not a bad thing, its just what you are. If you work in an office, your an office worker. If you fight, your a soldier. If you mine, your a miner. If you mine in EVE, if you mission in EVE, if most of your time is spent on something other then PvP or the search for PvP, your a carebear.
Sure, you may lose less ships. But thats not the point. Unless (and maybe even if) your a carebear, carebearing is not very fun. Fun comes from PvP, atleast in my view.
I may loss more ships then you, but I certainly kill more ships then you, and I can almost guarantee you I have more fun doing it... and Im not even a pirate.
Wrong. If you use the term "pvp" you are a carebear. There is no such thing as "pvp," period. PvP is a bs acronym, created by guys that "play" everquest or other effeminate wizzardy crap, and they believe that the objective in their twisted view of "gaming" is to virtually hump the leg of all the "girls"(guys with female avatars) that they see in the game; they want to spend their time talking to dudes that pretend to be chicks.
So they made up crap like "pvp" so they can then say that they are "non-pvpers" and thus non-combatants. There is no such thing as a non-combatant in a video game. The only point/objective/goal to gaming is to fight and kill every other player you can, period.
Anyone that says "pvp" really just wants a chat room, and they do not need to pay a monthly fee for that.
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.23 20:41:00 -
[108]
Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto
Originally by: Delnas
If your not a PvPer, your a carebear. Its not a bad thing, its just what you are. If you work in an office, your an office worker. If you fight, your a soldier. If you mine, your a miner. If you mine in EVE, if you mission in EVE, if most of your time is spent on something other then PvP or the search for PvP, your a carebear.
Sure, you may lose less ships. But thats not the point. Unless (and maybe even if) your a carebear, carebearing is not very fun. Fun comes from PvP, atleast in my view.
I may loss more ships then you, but I certainly kill more ships then you, and I can almost guarantee you I have more fun doing it... and Im not even a pirate.
Wrong. If you use the term "pvp" you are a carebear. There is no such thing as "pvp," period. PvP is a bs acronym, created by guys that "play" everquest or other effeminate wizzardy crap, and they believe that the objective in their twisted view of "gaming" is to virtually hump the leg of all the "girls"(guys with female avatars) that they see in the game; they want to spend their time talking to dudes that pretend to be chicks.
So they made up crap like "pvp" so they can then say that they are "non-pvpers" and thus non-combatants. There is no such thing as a non-combatant in a video game. The only point/objective/goal to gaming is to fight and kill every other player you can, period.
Anyone that says "pvp" really just wants a chat room, and they do not need to pay a monthly fee for that.
100% true
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Rudy Metallo
Crimson Squall
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.24 03:40:00 -
[109]
Originally by: FHPhantom
Originally by: enjoi
you're still a carebear.
No I'm not u are. TBH.
NO U
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Atreides Horza
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.06.24 05:49:00 -
[110]
I want my 5 minutes back...
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TheJacko
Gallente
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.06.24 06:20:00 -
[111]
im a slow reader call it 20
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gigatech2000
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Posted - 2007.06.24 06:42:00 -
[112]
LOL! Just because you want to kill every char you see it doesnt mean youre having more fun than non pvp char. STFU you noob! theres more to this game than that!
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.24 19:03:00 -
[113]
Originally by: gigatech2000
LOL! Just because you want to kill every char you see it doesnt mean youre having more fun than non pvp char. STFU you noob! theres more to this game than that!
well said bro
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Dionisius
Gallente
Vindictive Behavior
THE H0RDE
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Posted - 2007.06.24 22:05:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Corwain
You say you are smart because you refuse to PvP, you just PvE all day and buy better ships that you never lose?
You're a means without an end. You have no point in playing, and that's not smart. That's a waste of time.
PvP has a point, weather its getting better at PvP, or controlling space, whatever it may be.
So smart guy, who in EVE knows who the heck you are? That's right. You're nobody.
Who in EVE knows who BoB, MC, Outbreak, Veto, Privateers, Guiding Hand Social Club are? Even corps and alliances that are not alive today are known: ASCN, MoO, Ubiquia Seraph...
Also lots of people know who Selene, Verone, Dark Elf, lofty29, tiller, Ginger Magician etc. are. You know why? Because these personalities and corporations have the ability to influence the game. You don't influence much just PvEing all day. You could make lots of ISK, but until you spend it to do something worthwhile besides being able to take screens of you in a fancy ship it's just a number on a server somewhere.
I mean lots of people can buy a Vindicator, but only a few can actually fly it in a way that shakes the battlefield when they arrive.
You weren't worth the time it took me to write this post, carebear.
And what just makes you and that crap you wrote worth of time?
Gimme my time back and 1bil isks you noob!
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