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Tanis Shihari Men Of Mayham Sons of Odin. 0	Posted - 2012.01.05 03:27:00 - [1] - Quote Since Strategic Cruisers are such an investment. I was wondering what one is better, the Amarr Legion or Caldari Tengu? I know there are always differences but I am wondering over all which one seems to do the best in pvp? I also know that people are very opinionated so I want to see what people think of them both!
Trinkets friend Obstergo NEM3SIS. 81	Posted - 2012.01.05 04:58:00 - [2] - Quote To make a Tengu really annoying you need to get a 100MN AB fit and stick a faction dissy on it, then it is stupidly annoying. Tengu fleets aren't so FOTM because the cost vs the benefits over a Drake blob isn't really worth it, but they are decent in small gangs where a scimi or two can work well with their unholy resists. HAM Legions are definitely solid DPS brawlers, and a neut Legion is a solid addition to any T3 armour gang. As to which is better...I won't dare to make that call. The skilful employer of men will employ the wise man, the brave man, the covetous man, and the stupid man. Sun Tzu
Liang Nuren Heretic Army 560	Posted - 2012.01.05 05:07:00 - [3] - Quote Between the two, I have a strong preference for the Tengu. -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Jack Miton Lapse Of Sanity Narwhals Ate My Duck 85	Posted - 2012.01.05 06:16:00 - [4] - Quote Between tengu and legion for pvp, get a proteus.
Worpout Social Democratic Capitolists 15	Posted - 2012.01.05 09:25:00 - [5] - Quote It really really depends on the sitoration / amount of isk / setups. You can't pick one of them, they are good for different sitorations. Tho tengu seems to be able to fit into more, because of lon range, and good DPS projection.
Vile Coyote Deep Space Legacy REN0VATI0 10	Posted - 2012.01.05 10:07:00 - [6] - Quote Worpout wrote: It really really depends on the sitoration / amount of isk / setups. You can't pick one of them, they are good for different sitorations. Tho tengu seems to be able to fit into more, because of lon range, and good DPS projection. For real ?
dream3874 Tears of Redemption NEM3SIS. 3	Posted - 2012.01.05 14:15:00 - [7] - Quote I cant really speak for the Tengu simply because I have not flown it often in gangs. The Legion however is an absolute beast in T3 Armor gangs. weather its a massively tanked neuter, laser or ham setup, all those variants are very effective in armor gangs.
Pamela Podpopper University of Caille Gallente Federation 16	Posted - 2012.01.05 16:15:00 - [8] - Quote Tanis Shihari wrote: Since Strategic Cruisers are such an investment. I was wondering what one is better, the Amarr Legion or Caldari Tengu? I know there are always differences but I am wondering over all which one seems to do the best in pvp? I also know that people are very opinionated so I want to see what people think of them both! Loki > both
Goose99 Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 634	Posted - 2012.01.05 16:57:00 - [9] - Quote If 2 mentally defected millionaires whack each other with pillows, which one will win? The answer is: blob of canes.
Mr Floydy The Xenodus Initiative. 8	Posted - 2012.01.05 23:51:00 - [10] - Quote Legion is better, as it's prettier. Lasers ftw
Trinkets friend Obstergo NEM3SIS. 81	Posted - 2012.01.05 23:56:00 - [11] - Quote Mr Floydy wrote: Legion is better, as it's prettier. Lasers ftw Clearly you haven't seen the exploration sub on the Legion. Helloo expensive space mushroom. The skilful employer of men will employ the wise man, the brave man, the covetous man, and the stupid man. Sun Tzu
The Djego Hellequin Inc. Mean Coalition 16	Posted - 2012.01.06 00:18:00 - [12] - Quote Trinkets friend wrote: Mr Floydy wrote: Legion is better, as it's prettier. Lasers ftw Clearly you haven't seen the exploration sub on the Legion. Helloo expensive space mushroom. Well I for myself actually liked the baby avatar look, but I agree that there are much prettier sub combos. Most people lean towards the tengu for pure DPS + tank or the 100mn option. The legion is ok as AHAC, HAM setups(however by the low range you have to commit to the fight), heavy tanked neut ship or niche stuff like frig killer at low sec gates under sentry agro but a lot more niche than the tengu.
Argaral Obstergo NEM3SIS. 19	Posted - 2012.01.06 05:39:00 - [13] - Quote Trinkets friend wrote: Mr Floydy wrote: Legion is better, as it's prettier. Lasers ftw Clearly you haven't seen the exploration sub on the Legion. Helloo expensive space mushroom. Don't you mean the Avatar?
Spineker 94	Posted - 2012.01.06 05:58:00 - [14] - Quote Goose99 wrote: If 2 mentally defected millionaires whack each other with pillows, which one will win? The answer is: blob of canes. HAHAHAHA why take a half billion ship when 70 million will win?
Mr Floydy The Xenodus Initiative. 8	Posted - 2012.01.06 08:00:00 - [15] - Quote Trinkets friend wrote: Mr Floydy wrote: Legion is better, as it's prettier. Lasers ftw Clearly you haven't seen the exploration sub on the Legion. Helloo expensive space mushroom. That sub looks awesome, so distinctive :) Looks particularly awesome with the cap regen and laser sub.
Aestivalis Saidrian SplitPush Mercantiles 13	Posted - 2012.01.06 08:15:00 - [16] - Quote Trinkets friend wrote: Mr Floydy wrote: Legion is better, as it's prettier. Lasers ftw Clearly you haven't seen the exploration sub on the Legion. Helloo expensive space mushroom. **** Space mushroom, looks like a goddamn buttplug!
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost 56	Posted - 2012.01.06 15:47:00 - [17] - Quote Tanis Shihari wrote: Since Strategic Cruisers are such an investment. I was wondering what one is better, the Amarr Legion or Caldari Tengu? I know there are always differences but I am wondering over all which one seems to do the best in pvp? I also know that people are very opinionated so I want to see what people think of them both! The Tengu can kite/snipe with HMLs (even though you can fit HMLs on a Legion, it's a "last resort" option). Have a friend along to tackle though! The Legion has the better EWar subsystem of the two (although the Loki is the undisputed king of EWar T3s). The neut-brick Legion makes the Ashimmu a shiny faction paperweight (due to the Legion's superior resists, capacitor, and raw buffer), and can be thought of as a cross between the Pilgrim and Bhaalgorn, while not stealing the Curse's role of long range neuting. ECM Tengu? Why? Bring a Falcon if you want to jam someone. Both are roughly equivalent in 100MN HAM setups, IMO. They'll both get the job done in that case. The AHAC Legion is a bit gimpy compared to the Zealot though (missing 4th bonus on the Legion's laser Offensive sub), while the Tengu handily outshines the Cerb for the obvious reasons. The Tengu is the superior PvE boat for most things (Locus Legion is arguably superior for Incursion Vanguard blitzing, though). The Tengu has better DPS as a covert T3. (The Legion covert subsystem is badly gimped.) The Tengu has a better active tank (but this is due to the OP-ness of deadspace shield boosters). The Tengu by far is better (the best, actually) at "T3 blockade runner" style travel fits. My vote: Tengu for solo, small gangs, or as a covert T3, Legion if you fly in doctrinal T3/Logi fleets (using the neut-brick fit).
Fon Revedhort Monks of War DarkSide. 94	Posted - 2012.01.06 16:13:00 - [18] - Quote All tech3 cruisers are overpowered, so you can get any and pwn with little to no efforts. Sometimes even with no risk - if you stick to 100mn ab faggotry. 2008, CCP Zulu(park): "command ships are fine as is" 2011, CCP Greyscale: "is the Nighthawk actually underpowered?" Nice progress, guys.
Pinaculus Insanely Twisted 129	Posted - 2012.01.06 21:27:00 - [19] - Quote No risk? http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14875583 I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs.
1-Up Mushroom Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1825	Posted - 2012.01.06 21:36:00 - [20] - Quote Legion by far, looks cooler, lasers look cooler, neuts are funner, Tengu is crap and too mainstream 5 Senses In A Person... 4 Seasons In A Year... 3 Colors In A Stoplight... 2 Poles On The Earth... ONLY 1-UP MUSHROOM!!!-á If You Like My Sig, Like Me!-áRemember EVE is EVErything!
1-Up Mushroom Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1827	Posted - 2012.01.06 21:37:00 - [21] - Quote Pinaculus wrote: No risk? http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14875583 That's a pretty cheap T3 fit 5 Senses In A Person... 4 Seasons In A Year... 3 Colors In A Stoplight... 2 Poles On The Earth... ONLY 1-UP MUSHROOM!!!-á If You Like My Sig, Like Me!-áRemember EVE is EVErything!
Valea Silpha Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group 12	Posted - 2012.01.07 00:42:00 - [22] - Quote Spineker wrote: Goose99 wrote: If 2 mentally defected millionaires whack each other with pillows, which one will win? The answer is: blob of canes. HAHAHAHA why take a half billion ship when 70 million will win? can't tell if troll or ******
Eta Carinai Xujar 4	Posted - 2012.01.10 06:38:00 - [23] - Quote dream3874 wrote: I cant really speak for the Tengu simply because I have not flown it often in gangs. The Legion however is an absolute beast in T3 Armor gangs. weather its a massively tanked neuter, laser or ham setup, all those variants are very effective in armor gangs. One thing i have noticed about the Proteus compared to the legion is that the covert sub system gives you the ability to cloak permenantly and 10% bonus per level to damage with lasers per level. That moduel alone can give decent damage in a fight.
IGNATIUS HOOD Zephyr Corp 256	Posted - 2012.01.10 20:08:00 - [24] - Quote The Djego wrote: Trinkets friend wrote: Mr Floydy wrote: Legion is better, as it's prettier. Lasers ftw Clearly you haven't seen the exploration sub on the Legion. Helloo expensive space mushroom. Well I for myself actually liked the baby avatar look, but I agree that there are much prettier sub combos. Most people lean towards the tengu for pure DPS + tank or the 100mn option. The legion is ok as AHAC, HAM setups(however by the low range you have to commit to the fight), heavy tanked neut ship or niche stuff like frig killer at low sec gates under sentry agro. If only the coolest system combos were also the best system combos. sigh Apparently with the Legion form doesn't follow function. Of course it doesn't follow with the Apoc either, but thats a topic for another thread. 'perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim' Be patient and tough; some day this pain will be useful to you.
1-Up Mushroom Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1861	Posted - 2012.01.10 23:45:00 - [25] - Quote Trinkets friend wrote: Mr Floydy wrote: Legion is better, as it's prettier. Lasers ftw Helloo expensive space mushroom. Hello 5 Senses In A Person... 4 Seasons In A Year... 3 Colors In A Stoplight... 2 Poles On The Earth... ONLY 1-UP MUSHROOM!!!-á If You Like My Sig, Like Me!-áRemember EVE is EVErything!
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 568	Posted - 2012.01.10 23:51:00 - [26] - Quote 1-Up Mushroom wrote: Trinkets friend wrote: Mr Floydy wrote: Legion is better, as it's prettier. Lasers ftw Helloo expensive space mushroom. Hello Mmmmmm... How much do you cost I wonder? /purr -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren

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