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Epicurus
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.19 20:59:00 -
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has anyone else tried this switch yet??
I get the nice new spash screen for the client then nothing.. Eve has closed again... 
Anyone else had this problem??
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Zoea
Minmatar Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:00:00 -
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Edited by: Zoea on 19/06/2007 21:00:12 /nosplash /noconsole /aflock=0 /pyoptimize=1 works fine (still)
well to splash anyway.
(which reminds me will try without /noconsole)
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Arushia
Nova Labs Empire Research
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Epicurus has anyone else tried this switch yet??
I get the nice new spash screen for the client then nothing.. Eve has closed again... 
Anyone else had this problem??
Running EvE with that switch, I got the splash screen, then 2 minutes heavy HD activity, then the login window finally appeared.
I hope it only does this the first time.
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Na'Kunni
Amarr Null Horizon
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:07:00 -
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what exactly does that do?
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Necrosmith
Gallente Excellence In Business Corporation
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:08:00 -
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If you're getting the heavy activity when you first start everything up, I suspect it's the cache copying going on that CCP mentioned. ------------- "Isk is cheap. Life is cheaper. This week, they're having a sale on both." Laugh until you cry: Battle Asses
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Neuvik
Caldari Caldari Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:08:00 -
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Edited by: Neuvik on 19/06/2007 21:07:08
Originally by: Na'Kunni what exactly does that do?
http://myeve.eve-online.com/updates/patchnotes.asp
Quote: Game capture, log and cache folders have moved from "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE"
* The capture and logs folders are now located under "My Documents\EVE" * The settings and cache folder are stored under o Windows 2000/XP: "C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE" o Windows Vista: "C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE"
The location of the settings folder can be forced to remain where it was stored prior to Revelations II. This can be useful when connecting a second client to a test server and not mix settings between the clients.
* If the user choses to revert to this storage format, the shortcut needs to be modified to refer to: "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF". Note the switches (/end and /LUA:OFF) are case sensitive.
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Fink Angel
Caldari The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:08:00 -
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Edited by: Fink Angel on 19/06/2007 21:07:59 Are the switches fully documented anywhere?
Quote: eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF not working
I understand the /LUA part is to stop the cache being moved to "Documents and Settings", but what's the significance of /end?
(apart from the fact they tell you to do it, I read the patch notes!)
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Bravo 20
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:14:00 -
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Edited by: Bravo 20 on 19/06/2007 21:13:07 Will moving the cache folder affect anyone who uses a RAM drive while playing?
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picchiatello
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:15:00 -
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worked to me...
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Seleucus
Gallente STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: Bravo 20 Edited by: Bravo 20 on 19/06/2007 21:13:07 Will moving the cache folder affect anyone who uses a RAM drive while playing?
It does. Atleast it doesn't work for me. The client won't launch when I try to run it with "/end /LUA:OFF" and when I launch it without them, it fails to find my cache files on my RAMdrive, and insteads makes a default cache and settings folder in the Application Data folder (which I think is bull**** and unnecessary).
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Dr Qu
Caldari The Renegade Order Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:18:00 -
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The patchnotes are in error.
The patchnotes reads "...\CCP\EVE\eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF"
and this is wrong.
It should read: "...\CCP\EVE\eve.exe" /end /LUA:OFF
See the "? They should be at the end of eve.exe, not the end of /LUA:OFF
Just move the last " to the end of eve.exe and you should be fine.
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Estel Arador
Minmatar AFK
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:20:00 -
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the switch will only keep your settings folder in place and still move your capture and logs folder  =AFK=
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Bluestealth
Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Neuvik Edited by: Neuvik on 19/06/2007 21:07:08
Originally by: Na'Kunni what exactly does that do?
http://myeve.eve-online.com/updates/patchnotes.asp
Quote: Game capture, log and cache folders have moved from "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE"
* The capture and logs folders are now located under "My Documents\EVE" * The settings and cache folder are stored under o Windows 2000/XP: "C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE" o Windows Vista: "C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE"
The location of the settings folder can be forced to remain where it was stored prior to Revelations II. This can be useful when connecting a second client to a test server and not mix settings between the clients.
* If the user choses to revert to this storage format, the shortcut needs to be modified to refer to: "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF". Note the switches (/end and /LUA:OFF) are case sensitive.
Im just curious as to why its not in C:\Documents and Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE under Windows 2000/XP but I digress. On the upside I have to remember to use LUA off option when using Singularity from now on so I don't destroy my Tranquility cache.
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Seleucus
Gallente STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Qu The patchnotes are in error.
The patchnotes reads "...\CCP\EVE\eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF"
and this is wrong.
It should read: "...\CCP\EVE\eve.exe" /end /LUA:OFF
See the "? They should be at the end of eve.exe, not the end of /LUA:OFF
Just move the last " to the end of eve.exe and you should be fine.
Thanks alot. Can't believe I didn't see that. A little glitch by the devs probably.
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Dr Qu
Caldari The Renegade Order Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:28:00 -
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I didnt see it either. I whined my heart off to my computer wise friend until he, after much patience, told me in the voice of a teacher telling a child what was wrong.
Needless to say, I felt stupid :P
What's the most fun is that the error was in the patchnotes themselves. That will be a nice headache for many I think :)
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FireFoxx80
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Zoea Edited by: Zoea on 19/06/2007 21:00:12 /nosplash /noconsole /aflock=0 /pyoptimize=1 works fine (still)
well to splash anyway.
(which reminds me will try without /noconsole)
edit; again, it's faster :P mwahhahaaha
What's /aflock and /pyoptimize for?
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Keira Fordring
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador the switch will only keep your settings folder in place and still move your capture and logs folder 
Yep, pretty disappointing. I didn't want any of these files on my C: drive at all. I put nothing but my OS there to help reduce fragmentation and increase performance.
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Trishan
Minmatar Green Men Incorporated The Threshold
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:30:00 -
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It's not working for me. It doesn't move the files, but it keeps on creating them in C:
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Bluestealth
Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Keira Fordring
Originally by: Estel Arador the switch will only keep your settings folder in place and still move your capture and logs folder 
Yep, pretty disappointing. I didn't want any of these files on my C: drive at all. I put nothing but my OS there to help reduce fragmentation and increase performance.
Couldn't you always change the symbolic link of your My Documents folder... or does eve ignore that?
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Sertan Deras
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Keira Fordring
Originally by: Estel Arador the switch will only keep your settings folder in place and still move your capture and logs folder 
Yep, pretty disappointing. I didn't want any of these files on my C: drive at all. I put nothing but my OS there to help reduce fragmentation and increase performance.
Your App Settings folder is there whether you like it or not. Go open up your app settings folder and look at all the stuff in there. If you want to keep your main drive clean, you need to change where those folders point. EVE will most likely honor that change, but if you haven't changed it, don't complain at CCP for doing what MS tells them to do. Microsoft has been on developers rears for years to change the way they operated and to write data in to the appropriate folders, well now MS is enforcing it with Vista. You better get used to it, because that's the way it's going to be from here on out.
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Miter
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:37:00 -
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The patch notes a couple days had the proper '...exe" /end /LUA:OFF'
Some human editor probably saw that and said hey, that has to be wrong, I'll make it '...exe /end /LUA:OFF"' -- thus screwing up the patchnotes. Engage brain before editing! Cheers!
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Bluestealth
Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Sertan Deras
Originally by: Keira Fordring
Originally by: Estel Arador the switch will only keep your settings folder in place and still move your capture and logs folder 
Yep, pretty disappointing. I didn't want any of these files on my C: drive at all. I put nothing but my OS there to help reduce fragmentation and increase performance.
Your App Settings folder is there whether you like it or not. Go open up your app settings folder and look at all the stuff in there. If you want to keep your main drive clean, you need to change where those folders point. EVE will most likely honor that change, but if you haven't changed it, don't complain at CCP for doing what MS tells them to do. Microsoft has been on developers rears for years to change the way they operated and to write data in to the appropriate folders, well now MS is enforcing it with Vista. You better get used to it, because that's the way it's going to be from here on out.
Even better!... although make sure you switch to another account before you do this. 
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Corporati Capitalis
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Qu The patchnotes are in error.
The patchnotes reads "...\CCP\EVE\eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF"
and this is wrong.
It should read: "...\CCP\EVE\eve.exe" /end /LUA:OFF
See the "? They should be at the end of eve.exe, not the end of /LUA:OFF
Just move the last " to the end of eve.exe and you should be fine.
It still doesn't work - I placed the closing quote where it should be, yet the launcher still copied the whole Cache and Capture folders to the respective new locations.
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Andrahkon
UNITED STARS ORGANISATION
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:47:00 -
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Also dont works for me cache is now @ the new place Added the switch before patching and controlled it after patching
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Dr Qu
Caldari The Renegade Order Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:52:00 -
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Then I can safely say that you have some other error affecting you.
Are you using Vista or XP?
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Andrahkon
UNITED STARS ORGANISATION
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:55:00 -
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I use xp..but what has this to to with the os?
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hioshi IV
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Keira Fordring
Originally by: Estel Arador the switch will only keep your settings folder in place and still move your capture and logs folder 
Yep, pretty disappointing. I didn't want any of these files on my C: drive at all. I put nothing but my OS there to help reduce fragmentation and increase performance.
C drive or C partition? If you have your page file on another partiton of your disk that also holds C you are actually reducing performance. Page file is best placed on system partition or a separate disk.
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MellaRinn
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:56:00 -
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working fine after moving the quote to the right position :)
/me goes to see if ramdrive runs :]
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Epicurus
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:57:00 -
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Edited by: Epicurus on 19/06/2007 21:57:28 I noticed that I had that eve folder in my docs from playing on the test server. I delete that and started it again and now get to the log in screen.
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MegaJ
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:59:00 -
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Didn't work for me either even tho I put the /end /LUA crap outside the "....eve.exe"
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Epicurus
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.19 22:00:00 -
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OK.. that took a while. I think my logs/cache where rather large which is why it took a while to copy and start.. All soted by the looks of things
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Competition Master
United Nations Intelligence Taskforce
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Posted - 2007.06.19 22:01:00 -
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If the path to your client doesn't contain any spaces, you don't need the " at all.
It's working fine for me with the command line:
c:\eve\eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF
I cleared my cache, etc etc first and it's just recreated everything in the old place as I'd expect.
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Andrahkon
UNITED STARS ORGANISATION
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Posted - 2007.06.19 22:02:00 -
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Edited by: Andrahkon on 19/06/2007 22:03:05
btw...the "" for the target of a link is only needed if theres an space in the path like
c:\[User]\Files and Folders\xyz.ext
then it would be with switches
"c:\[User]\Files and Folders\xyz.ext" /switch1 /switch2:parameter
"c:\eve\eve.exe" /end /LUA:OFF is the same as "c:\eve\eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF"
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Trader Man
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Posted - 2007.06.19 22:03:00 -
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If I let Eve automatically move those folders to the determined places, is that going to hurt game play? Or anything at all?
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Rumari Antar
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.06.19 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Trader Man If I let Eve automatically move those folders to the determined places, is that going to hurt game play? Or anything at all?
In most cases, no it shouldn't.
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Epicurus
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.19 22:08:00 -
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I take its settings like overview and other setting that are stored locally have not been moved?
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Rumari Antar
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.06.19 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Epicurus I take its settings like overview and other setting that are stored locally have not been moved?
I believe those are being moved as well.
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VossKarr
Caldari The 6th Directorate
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Posted - 2007.06.19 22:27:00 -
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Can somebody tell me if the LUA switch needs to be there all the time or can I remove it after a first post-patch startup?
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Fink Angel
Caldari The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.06.19 22:36:00 -
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I'd say the switches should be kept in place all the time.
To the people who say it doesn't work, you noticed the bit about it being case sensitive?
It has to be exactly:
"c:\eve\eve.exe" /end /LUA:OFF
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Jesters Knight
Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research
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Posted - 2007.06.19 22:38:00 -
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Quote:
@echo off start /BELOWNORMAL eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF exit
that is the batch file i use to launch eve, it is still causing folders to be moved to the mydocuments location.
any pointers?
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Seleucus
Gallente STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.06.20 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jesters Knight
Quote:
@echo off start /BELOWNORMAL eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF exit
that is the batch file i use to launch eve, it is still causing folders to be moved to the mydocuments location.
any pointers?
With that command, you keep your cache and settings were they are, but the capture folder and logs will still be moved to My Documents/EVE/. Not much do do about it I'm afraid.
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Seleucus
Gallente STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.06.20 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jesters Knight
Quote:
@echo off start /BELOWNORMAL eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF exit
that is the batch file i use to launch eve, it is still causing folders to be moved to the mydocuments location.
any pointers?
With that command, you keep your cache and settings were they are, but the capture folder and logs will still be moved to My Documents/EVE/. Not much do do about it I'm afraid.
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Ray McCormack
BIG
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Posted - 2007.06.20 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: FireFoxx80
Originally by: Zoea Edited by: Zoea on 19/06/2007 21:00:12 /nosplash /noconsole /aflock=0 /pyoptimize=1 works fine (still)
well to splash anyway.
(which reminds me will try without /noconsole)
edit; again, it's faster :P mwahhahaaha
What's /aflock and /pyoptimize for?
Yeah, what do they do?
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Chi Quan
Jade Phoenix Deutschland Event-Horizon
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Posted - 2007.06.25 16:16:00 -
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Edited by: Chi Quan on 25/06/2007 16:18:34
Originally by: Andrahkon I use xp..but what has this to to with the os?
it's vistas fault. vista has special rules where to put what files, 'something to do with access and ownership rights. that was one of the reasons the client wouldn't run on vista.
meh, i willingly coose not to use vista and it affects me nonetheless, ridiculous.
the /things are switches to tweak some internal settings, someone made a post about it, but it was deleted.
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