Originally by: Grath Telkin

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this post amazes me.

So is the problem that you have to see it in your UI, or that you cant use the damn heat?

I wonder if all the posters here realize how many 2-3 year old players DIDNT train EM5, simply because they didnt think the final level was worth it. Don't believe me? try trolling the alts for sale, take a look at how many DONT have that skill, AND have 2+year ages on em.

You'd think its the end of the world "Oh woe is me, i cant do things a 3 year player does" BFD, get over it.

The OP here violently attacks anybody who dose not side with him, ignoring every fact presented. He is backed by people calling it a "timesink"...wtf do you think BS 5 is? 60 days for what? a slight boost. I wonder why he bothered to post at all, unless he wanted to prove his lack of debating skills by ignoring facts, and attacking people who try to make a point.

In the end, like everything else in this game, im sure CCP will fold, and "dumb" it down, the nerf cries will reach the heavans, and the great smiting nerf bolt will come down, then EVE will be full of people burning up thier mods and crying for the heat effect to do less damage.

One thing you all need to adjust to, EvE is all about the haves n the have nots. you have trained the skills, or you have not, you will train the skills, or you will not. This game isnt supposed to be fair, its supposed to reward those who work hard at it. If your willing to take the time to train the skill, regardless of what you think of it being a timesink (which is utterly ******** when you look at some of the longer train skills), you will reap the rewards.

only 2 things will make this thread better: a moderator saying "its not changing, deal with it for once instead of *****ing", and CCP saying that EVERY patch from now on will involve increasingly difficult to aquire skills. cause i gotta tell you, that if i had been playing for 3 years, n some guy who started a month ago came along and could do even a portion of what i could do, i would simply find a new game to play.

If the damn UI bothers you so much, start a thread about that to get noticed, but dont use it as a platform to adjust the requirements for a skill, it just sounds assanine when presented in this particular ridiculous argument.

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Originally by: qantua gnartians

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15 pages so far and still noone has taken the time to think their position over, and have come up with an actual reason to wry heat needs to be restricted content, or wry it needs to be tied to that skill in particular and not it's own specialisation path.

the whole well it's not a specialisation since EM 5 is a must have is just defensive retorics, that does only confirm that pouple dont see a great need for it to be restricted, from anyone.

Im not nesseryly against having heat as a specialisation if someone could point a benefit to it being tied to theat exact existing path of specialisation.

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