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Edania
Caldari Ordo Adeptus Astartes Edge Of Sanity
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Posted - 2007.06.20 09:26:00 -
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Even if you do train Energy managment 5 because you feel you "have to" which you do not your hardly losing out you still get the benefit of energy managment that is well worth having for anything save cookie cutter ravens.
there are pre-reqs out there that ive done that are even more utterly useless, like the one to get covert ops needs electronic upgrades 5 a totally pointless skill save for what it enables, you just have to suck it up, any "vet" here has done just as much training of ridiculous skills to get somthing they wanted, if this attitude on the forums had exsisted at eves dawn then i have no doubt that racial battleship would instead have only needed racial cruiser 3 today.
oh as an aside heat sucks anyway unless your about to die. you cant micromanage it to not take no/very low damage so once activated your weapons degrade very rapidly
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Edania
Caldari Ordo Adeptus Astartes Edge Of Sanity
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Posted - 2007.06.20 09:46:00 -
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just a brief note not flaming or anything but to base assumptions on a persons corp name is a very bad thing to do, many a pirate corp has an industrial sounding name just to prey on people who think like that
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Edania
Caldari Ordo Adeptus Astartes Edge Of Sanity
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Posted - 2007.06.20 10:00:00 -
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Originally by: Na'Kunni Edited by: Na''Kunni on 20/06/2007 09:49:32
Originally by: Edania just a brief note not flaming or anything but to base assumptions on a persons corp name is a very bad thing to do, many a pirate corp has an industrial sounding name just to prey on people who think like that
*cough*, why i said wait till i check in-game
if it turns out nto to be my post gets deleted.... read my post FTW
EDIT - I did check
Miners Developers Defenders
I stays 
and if you were a pirate corp and went to the trouble of a a nice sounding name you think then in the corp description they would put, nah only kidding were gonna kill you and take your stuff?
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Edania
Caldari Ordo Adeptus Astartes Edge Of Sanity
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Posted - 2007.06.20 10:20:00 -
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yes yes yes your argument is valid
but the other 30 people who also commented have equally valid arguments
the problem of course is CCP is likely to accede to these (demands)requests as they have shown an increasing likelyhood to do my issue isnt with thermodynamics itself but with the devaluation of accomplishments and planning, a much larger issue than one currently essentially pointless skill, (yep ive tried it on test and its just groundwork for future developments)
yesterday it was salvaging today it may be thermodynamics, people will assume that CCP will cave in and make more demands and therefore will do so until were besotted with people who dont wish to earn they wish to be given
people who look to the future by training survey 5 got shafted more than people who bundled thru and whined about the high cost
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Edania
Caldari Ordo Adeptus Astartes Edge Of Sanity
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jdestars I hope that CCP is not going to give up to the weeping and to lower the prerequired of this skill.Rolling Eyes Eve is one games where one have to choose even this it have to pass by a specialization you can use overheat without this skill , but if you want to become power full , pay the price ;)
noob want to flying with all vessel, Eve are not a game for roxxor.. i'd play to Eve since almost 4 year and ihavent energy management V , 10d for obtain its not the end of the world ...
fraid not, if it worked this way no-one would give a flying pidgeon however you need it at 1 to overheat
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Edania
Caldari Ordo Adeptus Astartes Edge Of Sanity
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Posted - 2007.06.20 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Na'Kunni
Originally by: Jdestars I hope that CCP is not going to give up to the weeping and to lower the prerequired of this skill.Rolling Eyes Eve is one games where one have to choose even this it have to pass by a specialization you can use overheat without this skill , but if you want to become power full , pay the price ;)
noob want to flying with all vessel, Eve are not a game for roxxor.. i'd play to Eve since almost 4 year and ihavent energy management V , 10d for obtain its not the end of the world ...
Here we go again, another 1-2year+ vet, who has most skills like trained for, who doesnt have to worry too much about giving up the "10" (you must have nice attributes, for a rank3 skills to take 10 days to train) days to train EM 5.
i think new people deserve and need to advance to where i am now faster than i did so people catch up in terms of gain/time invested to do anything less alienates any new player base, so what if the new things affect older players at release two years from now there will be the same discussions as a xth round ofimprovments are released to help noobs catch up, then you get to take dvantage immediatly as do i and this whine cycle continues, then later there in the same position.
Catching up is not the same as advancing quicker.
however to diminish the achievments of old time players is equally stupid not only do they lose players who are old customers they lose ne wplayers who have the forsight to see that your achivments will mean nothing in the long run
you get presented with difficult choices oh my, devestating! your getting no less screwed over than countless people have for the entire duration of eve, whenever anything changes you have exactly three options, adapt your plan, make do without. or cry and hope your blubbering tears encourage people to take pity on you
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Edania
Caldari Ordo Adeptus Astartes Edge Of Sanity
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Posted - 2007.06.20 12:31:00 -
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its hardly the first timethat you pay more for the pre-reqs than the skill how many tiers do you need at 5 to train the rank 14 carrier skill?
8 battleship 5 advanced space ship command 5 drone interfacing 1 ssc 1 drones
20/14
ice processing rank 5
3 refining efficiency 1 engineering 1 refining 1 science
6/5
to fly a command ship comand ship skill is rank 8 but you need
5 battlecruiser 5 racial cruiser 1 leadership 1 ssc
12/8
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Edania
Caldari 9th army CMC Edge Of Sanity
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Posted - 2007.06.26 19:22:00 -
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"All I said was I will not PvP until I get around to training up for Heat"
oh come on dont be so ludicrous thats like saying im not useful in PVP till i have everything ever and implys you think of PVP as 1V1, if you want to stay out of PVP because of that realise that it isnt CCPs fault its your own imbicility. people PVP in 1 month olds or 1 day olds and have fun, to blazes with everything else its supposed to be fun to play right?
get into a good gang op and heat will be utterly utterly pointless it wont stop overwhelming damage and it wont contribute overwhelming damage prehaps just as some have mentioned warp scraming and realise that the world isnt about to explode because you cant use a feature, hell im 3 years old and cant use cloaks or the current flavour of the month but thats not going to stop me try to have a laugth
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