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ghosttr Amarr ARK-CORP FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:56:00 - [1] It seems that every new feature they add into the game takes longer & longer to use. First it was the salvaging requirements, but now the pos defense and overheating skills are requiring really high prerequisites And just you watch, they're going to wait till i get ****ed off enough to actually bother to train those ridiculous prerequisites. Then right after i finish training they will reduce the requirements. Long training queues ftl CCP Stop the carebear whine, Fix Cloaking
ghosttr Amarr ARK-CORP FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:04:00 - [2] I think the skill requirement for the new items has been way too high. There are extreme skill requirements for heat, and for pos defense. Both taking well over a month to train to any acceptable level. I know that they are probably making them longer so the bored cap ship pilots will have something to train for and not feel 'maxed out' but **** CCP think about the little guys for a change Long skill training queues ftl ccp Stop the carebear whine, Fix Cloaking
ghosttr Amarr ARK-CORP FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:23:00 - [3] Well I think that the requirements should be reduced to having level 4 anchoring for pos defense, and lv4 energy management for heat. That means that using these will require some skill investment, but wont be too extremely hard for newer players to train. Stop the carebear whine, Fix Cloaking
ghosttr Amarr ARK-CORP FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:42:00 - [4] You will notice that all of the people that say they are ok with the current times are older players. But what do you think it is to a new player? CCP advertise all of these new feature to attract new player but doesnt give them a chance in hell at using them. If you have less than 5m skill point i can almost guarantee that the majority of your skills take a week or less to train. No, im not talking about older players power training alts for a specific purpose, im talking about the guy who just started a week ago, or maybe a month ago. And wants to try the new features, with these intensive skill requirements this will only benefit the much older players, who either have the skills trained. Or can afford good implants, and have had the time to get good learning skills. If CCP wants to bring new players to this game by adding more feature they should make sure that they are feasible for them to use. And not make every new skill they introduce have skill requirements that are massive for anyone less than a capital pilot to train. Stop the carebear whine, Fix Cloaking
ghosttr Amarr ARK-CORP FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:51:00 - [5] Originally by: Plave Okice As said many times already, it's not like it's a useless skill, it's a very important one that all should get to V anyway qft! You apparently know nothing about looking at thing from another persons perspective. For any player that has less than 6months game time these requirements are a bit too extreme. All keeping the skill requirements high will do is make it so that there is an even larger gap between new players and old ones. Stop the carebear whine, Fix Cloaking
ghosttr Amarr ARK-CORP FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:21:00 - [6] Originally by: Alex Tremayne Sorry. I have no sympathy. EM 5 is one of those 'must have' skills I'm afraid and you should get it anyway. Plus, not all new content should be available instantly to low SP characters. Suck it up. Shouldn't be available 'instantly' as you say. but it should not take extreme amounts of time either. LV4 as requirements is fine, that means that will probably end up investing about 1-2 weeks of time, which is feasible for a newer 1-month-1 1/2 months is not as feasible. Stop the carebear whine, Fix Cloaking
ghosttr Amarr ARK-CORP FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:28:00 - [7] Originally by: Alex Tremayne Originally by: Na'Kunni Originally by: Alex Tremayne Sorry. I have no sympathy. EM 5 is one of those 'must have' skills I'm afraid and you should get it anyway. Plus, not all new content should be available instantly to low SP characters. Suck it up. But yet they will be advertising it, to attract new players.... What's your point? They use cruisers and battleships to attract new players too and it's not like you can fly thm instantly. I reiterate: not everything should be available to n00bs. Oh, and Ajulutsikeal above is me too. Damn forums picking my alt as default. Yes but they can also train up & use a battleship in their first month. The skills are streamlined so new players can get into a broader range of stuff. I dont think anyone would stay tih this game if they had to learn frigate V to be able to fly a cruiser. Stop the carebear whine, Fix Cloaking
ghosttr Amarr ARK-CORP FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:03:00 - [8] Originally by: Nicole KholdStare I think CCP does this on purpose. This way a lot less people are able to play with the new features, which means a lot less people will come complain on the forums/file petitions, thus easing the load that is caused by the patch. Then they go ahead and lower the requirements after a week or two when the flood has gone down a bit. It was like this with a lot of other mods, salvagers and probes for example. I hope its that way and its just ccp's usual pre-nerf tactics. Stop the carebear whine, Fix Cloaking
ghosttr Amarr ARK-CORP FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.21 02:04:00 - [9] Originally by: scabbsssjr IMHO heat is fine. Its the anchoring lvl 5 I have a problem with. Who the crap needs anchoring for anything other than mobile large t2 bubbles? Both prerequisites need to be changed to 4, or CCP needs to go and put the ui back to the way it was, and put the pos guns back inside of the shields. The 'older' players are just whining because they benefit from it. It give them another step above everybody else, and makes it harder for newer player to compete. While the 'older' players will be getting an edge in combat & pos warfare, all of the younger guys will be getting nerfed. Need to siege the pos of a small corp, no sweat, they cant use the guns anyway. Now the guns are stupid & vulnerable, so without the skill the pos is even less defensible that it was pre rev2. And with heat the only ones that will be using it will be the older players that already have lots of SPs. They will be able to use the skills months before the new players. ANd if the new players decide to train it in lieu of the high training time they will fall behind in other skills. LONG TRAINING TIMES NERFS YOUNGER PLAYERS CCP Stop the carebear whine, Fix Cloaking

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