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RossP Zoyka
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:00:00 -
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Please let me (and hopefully the Devs) know whether or not the EANM nerf and Active Hardner boost has altered your setups in any way. I am curious if this is actually affecting anything.
Thanks! Please be honest!
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Lore Isander
Caldari Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:05:00 -
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Prenerf I could fit a Domi, Mega, Hyperion, Abaddon, Geddon.
Now I can fit a Dominix...
Affected? BIG TIME! ---
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Raxxius Maelstrom
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:07:00 -
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my rupture needed some tweaking to fit a similar setup.
I don't really fly anything else atm. Broke.
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Melanie Tenkai
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: Melanie Tenkai on 20/06/2007 14:06:26 I can now fit a full t2 Dual Heavy Laser rack on the armageddon, loosing 2 ean t2 for 2 anm , so I have a less tank for more gank.
Still need to test if this new general tank nerf would help my geddon to kill my enemy before I die, theoretical I should beacuse my enemies also have a weaker tank now ( mmm really? )
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Commander Thrawn
Fluffy Rabbit Killers
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: Commander Thrawn on 20/06/2007 14:08:11 ya i can now fit more stuff on my geddon since hardener take less CPU. thx cpp great job.
edit: used to fit a eanm setup on it. but i can now fit more tank with hards and have more cpu left over so i can actually fit a heavy nos. if i fit faction hards i can even drop to cpuII
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Naomi Wildfire
Amarr Stardust Heavy Industries Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:09:00 -
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My Absolution fitting with 2 EANM II is not affected. Good for me, bad for opponents Signature Your signature exceeds the 24000 byte limit on the forums. -Darth Patches |
Ogdru Jahad
Amarr Hookers and Black Jack Flaming Hookers
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Naomi Wildfire My Absolution fitting with 2 EANM II is not affected. Good for me, bad for opponents
I agree, aint effected me one bit. -
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Luke Pubcrawler
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:13:00 -
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Did a few checks on some of my standard setups. Short answer is that so far my Gallente and Typhoon setups are no different as they had at least a little CPU leeway before the patch. Geddy setup needs a major redesign as cpu was already at capacity.
Not done all my setups yet but if this pattern holds then I forsee little problem for Gallente and Minmatar armour tanks and possible big problems for Amarr. My fitting skills are pretty good if not spectacular- (electronics 5, WU 5 etc), so if I am having CPU issues then most players will.
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:13:00 -
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I'll probably have to buy some cheap faction stuff to fit my usual mega fit but it's not too bad. Also with the cpu reduced on active hardeners i can probably lose the faction hardeners on my abaddon now so it'll balance itself out for me probably
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Saint Lazarus
C R Y O FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:15:00 -
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Screwed me over a tad. With all t1 artys on my Hurricane I had a tight fit, I was trainin for t2 artys and now with t1 im short (ALOT) on CPU so yeah.......my setup for an arty Hurricane was nerfed before I even finished it
Adapt I know and im to lazy/unmotivated look at how I can change it and just see this nerf as completely unessecary and out of teh blue. I was never aware there was an umbalance with 'em =/
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Aem
The Dark Horses
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:28:00 -
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It made me giggle... and wait in anticipation for all the OMG CCP DONT DO THIS TOO ME THREADS.
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FawKa
Gallente Old Farts Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.06.20 15:00:00 -
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Edited by: FawKa on 20/06/2007 15:01:35 Didnt this 'nerf' only 'nerf' the ppl using omni tanks afterall? This was the purpose for 'nerfing' anyways, right? Ppl using 3 EANM cant anymore. Only setup I really used this for or at least two eanm was my gank mega. I cant fit that the same way around anymore but I really didnt have all my setups nerfed as ppl yell about.
However, now that Murder One seems to be flamed all the time I have to agree with him. The Megathron is a real pain to fit and this change sure didnt help. If you go full tank you can fit it with hardeners and a damge control but if you are a decent blaster pilot and fits a magstab or two aswell - you need the EANM and thats where you get screwed.
Then again, CCP officially killed solo pvp, so the dmg mod can be unfitted for more tank as you have to fly together with 3 other blasterthrons
/me tears hair out, edit for spelling
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Lore Isander
Caldari Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.20 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: FawKa Edited by: FawKa on 20/06/2007 15:01:35 Didnt this 'nerf' only 'nerf' the ppl using omni tanks afterall? This was the purpose for 'nerfing' anyways, right? Ppl using 3 EANM cant anymore. Only setup I really used this for or at least two eanm was my gank mega. I cant fit that the same way around anymore but I really didnt have all my setups nerfed as ppl yell about.
However, now that Murder One seems to be flamed all the time I have to agree with him. The Megathron is a real pain to fit and this change sure didnt help. If you go full tank you can fit it with hardeners and a damge control but if you are a decent blaster pilot and fits a magstab or two aswell - you need the EANM and thats where you get screwed.
Then again, CCP officially killed solo pvp, so the dmg mod can be unfitted for more tank as you have to fly together with 3 other blasterthrons
/me tears hair out, edit for spelling
Noob, 2 EANM + DCU still use less CPU than 3 Hardeners. ---
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FawKa
Gallente Old Farts Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.06.20 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lore Isander
Originally by: FawKa Edited by: FawKa on 20/06/2007 15:01:35 Didnt this 'nerf' only 'nerf' the ppl using omni tanks afterall? This was the purpose for 'nerfing' anyways, right? Ppl using 3 EANM cant anymore. Only setup I really used this for or at least two eanm was my gank mega. I cant fit that the same way around anymore but I really didnt have all my setups nerfed as ppl yell about.
However, now that Murder One seems to be flamed all the time I have to agree with him. The Megathron is a real pain to fit and this change sure didnt help. If you go full tank you can fit it with hardeners and a damge control but if you are a decent blaster pilot and fits a magstab or two aswell - you need the EANM and thats where you get screwed.
Then again, CCP officially killed solo pvp, so the dmg mod can be unfitted for more tank as you have to fly together with 3 other blasterthrons
/me tears hair out, edit for spelling
Noob, 2 EANM + DCU still use less CPU than 3 Hardeners.
True, but that doesnt change my setup, noob
even if it uses less I am still in need of more? Guess I wrote the above post odd, as you didnt get my point.
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Hijara
Amarr Crimson Squall Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.20 15:11:00 -
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nope, im fine
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2007.06.20 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Saint Lazarus out of teh blue.
Devs have mentioned months ago that 1 of the problems for Amarr was the omnitank and that they were looking at fixing those. They haven't shouted it of the roof, but it certainly wasn't out of the blue or unneccesary.
Quote: Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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Kruel
Save our Souls
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Posted - 2007.06.20 15:18:00 -
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It was hard enough to fit the Pilgrim before... guess it's Recon5 or bust.
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RossP Zoyka
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Posted - 2007.06.20 15:20:00 -
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My original hope was that they would completely switch the fitting requirements of actives and passives ie. make T2 EANM 44 cpu and T2 Active 30 cpu.
Why? Because a freaking T2 EANM is better then an active module!!!! So it should be more difficult to fit then easier correct?
Not many people's setups have been altered by this and if they want to make active tank viable/comparable to omni they need to introduce a few more drastic measures.
Thoughts?
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2007.06.20 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: RossP Zoyka Thoughts?
Just that CCP tends to take small steps to balance things. It's hard enough to predict the outcome of changes as it is.
If omni tanks remain prevalent, there'll be another change.
Quote: Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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Talder
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Posted - 2007.06.20 15:35:00 -
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Zainou 'Gypsy' - KMB75
A neural interface upgrade that boosts the pilot's skill at electronics.
CPU Bonus 5%
Implant slot 6
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FawKa
Gallente Old Farts Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.06.20 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Talder Zainou 'Gypsy' - KMB75
A neural interface upgrade that boosts the pilot's skill at electronics.
CPU Bonus 5%
Implant slot 6
Zainou 'Gnome' KTA1000*
Takes up an omega slot tho
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Gawain Hill
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Posted - 2007.06.20 16:28:00 -
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nope hasnt changed a thing for me at all... although i've not logged on since the patch
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Tintifish
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.20 16:46:00 -
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I can now not fit the lows on my ishkur with SAR II, EANM II, Mag stab II. God knows what im meant to fit other than faction, a non-energized ust isnt good enough for a single hardener. Also means to fit an ishtar(when i buy one) i will need all faction 2xEANM and Exp hard II.
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Ozzie Asrail
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 16:52:00 -
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DCUII -> Named DCU EANII -> Faction ANP
Omnitanks 4TW! Most pointless nerf ever except making my ships 20mil more expensive to fit... -----
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MotoTsume
Gallente Clan Black Scorpion
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Posted - 2007.06.20 16:54:00 -
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My Myrmidon with a DCU and dual Eanm II's wasn't affected - thank god It's just a game........Or is it?????
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Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2007.06.20 16:57:00 -
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Yep... this change didn't do anything other than making armor tanking more expensive, and even then only for a handful of ships. EANM 2+DCU is still superior to 3xActives any day of the week. -- t20: "So Let us play and enjoy the game you and I both love on the same level." |
Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.20 17:00:00 -
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Nope. Caldari ships tend to have alot of cpu.
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.06.20 17:04:00 -
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Zealot fitting is no longer the same.
Had to drop something from my Abso, but nothing important (standard launcher).
Abaddon unaffected.
Haven't tried fitting a Geddon... think I might cry if I did.
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Plave Okice
Gallente Combat Systems
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Posted - 2007.06.20 17:55:00 -
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My Astarte is fitted just as before with no issues
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Khadur
Minmatar Spontaneous Defenestration
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Posted - 2007.06.20 18:04:00 -
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Had to drop a HP for a FMP on my abso and harbinger
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