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Civil Deity
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Posted - 2004.01.16 02:49:00 -
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I'm getting really tired of you people thinking Evolution is the hired sword of the SA...
I'm gonna give you all a HUGE lesson in basic sociology so sit back and enjoy.
Several organizations, now with the CA have in the past committed acts in fountain against EVOL to **** them off.
EVOL having better things to do dismisses it and goes about their business.
When the time is right and they are bored with dominating the northern part of the world they decide to come down and mess up some of their old time enemies.
Those enemies happen to be the same as the SA.
Heres your frickin wake up call!!! COMMON ENEMIES = FRIENDS IN WAR!!!!!!!! All you frickin retards that think we paid them grow up and learn some common sense to put 2 and 2 together.
I'm glad to have evolution on our side as they are humorous characters, outstanding warriors and even better friends.
You guys are seriously running out of bait on your fishing poles. So stop fishing for things. Instead sit back think about it for 2 seconds and save yourself the embarrassment of guessing at falsities in front of the whole community.
Civil Deity
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.01.16 02:52:00 -
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I sense much anger in this post...
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.01.16 02:54:00 -
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People talk stuff like that all the time.
Evidently CA paid us to demolish FA...
Sux don't it?
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masta yoda
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Posted - 2004.01.16 03:15:00 -
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if it is untrue then why do you get so mad when its pointed out, i think your hiding somthing, so just how much did you all pay em anyhow???? i would be irate tooo, they are sucking at what youve paid em to do
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Maiwenn LeBesco
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Posted - 2004.01.16 03:39:00 -
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aw, its yoda the alt troll.. how cute.
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.01.16 03:44:00 -
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aw, its yoda the alt troll.. how cute.
Maiween, i think , thats you discripion.
OH ! btw, your sig grafic shows level 3 and learning lvl 4 and you say Rank 2. A very difficult joke about yourself.
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Maiwenn LeBesco
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Posted - 2004.01.16 04:07:00 -
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its not a joke - its a skills exploit.
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Sequin
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Posted - 2004.01.16 04:11:00 -
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if it is untrue then why do you get so mad when its pointed out, i think your hiding somthing, so just how much did you all pay em anyhow???? i would be irate tooo, they are sucking at what youve paid em to do
Mm yes, us owning most of curse 90% of the day sure is failure.
^A Raem Civre Original
EVE-Trade, for your buying and selling needs. A Voogru original.
[i]Redon > evol and mass have a GM helping them with everything
Redon > notice how they always get ships replaced and none of us cant <--- Hurray for teamwork!
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2004.01.16 04:14:00 -
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asmodia, you really kicked his butt there. calm down.
NEW SIG TEST.
HOMO I AM SOMEBODY...SOMEBODY WHO SAYS WHAT NO ONE ELSE IN CAREBEAR REALM DARE SAY, YOUR A GREIFER WHO IS A LEGEND IN YOUR OWN MIND! YOU NEED TO WAKE FROM YOUR DILUSION THAT EVERYONE LIKES YOU AND THAT YOUR THE MASTER OF EVE.
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.01.16 04:21:00 -
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2 and 2 = 5? ....correct me if im wrong 
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The Reverend
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Posted - 2004.01.16 04:36:00 -
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Civil, Civil, Civil - how many temper tantrums do you need to have before the truth dawns on you. SA needs Evol, whether paid or not, without them your cause would have been lost long ago. You back stab your partners, your corp is falling apart around you and your economical prospects fall ever lower. In my time as a member of your corp I heard more complaining than I have ever seen before. You work your members and make them mine, your fleets are ragged at best, with just a few decent PVP'er who hold on because they feel loyalty to you. You knowingly accept a senior member of m0o into your folds but ask me to keep quiet in case the rest of your corp finds how just how desperate you are to increase your chances of winning anything.
Evolution is SA's saviours atm, without them your lands would be over-run, your corps thrown out. You had better hope that Evol don't decide to reclaim Fountain for themselves, and instead remain with you. Cos the minute they go, you will be overun again, just as m0o overran Stain last time we were there. This time however you'll have no OC to slow us down.
Why don't you retire to CFS, I heard they need help down there, maybe you can motivate some more poor carebears who just want a peaceful life.
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Highway Man
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Posted - 2004.01.16 05:16:00 -
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Hi, I have a bridge for sale. Would you like to buy it?
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Civil Deity
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Posted - 2004.01.16 05:43:00 -
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Edited by: Civil Deity on 16/01/2004 05:48:22
Edited by: Civil Deity on 16/01/2004 05:44:35
Reverend -
EV is having a banner month.. So whereever you got your information from better check again.
I never tried to claim that SA couldn't stay alive without evol. The fact of the matter is that is irrelevant because they are fighting curse. Who knows what would happen otherwise, and to presume only makes you look foolish.
I was simply stating that I was tired of ignorant people fishing for an idea that simply wasn't there.
You want to attack my character or EV thats your business.
As for hiring an member of moo. I did nothing of the sorts. I hired chromosphere, an experienced power gamer who had once been a pirate under a different name but wished to start a new leaf under a new flag. I simply provided him the opportunity. You came to me buddy, it was a win win situation at the time so dont spin it. Although I will admit after seeing how quickly an ex-pirate can turn back to his former self EV's recruiting policy, even to honest players wishing to come clean has been changed.
and if you remember your identity was kept secret on your request, which I honored.
You must be running out of bait too, but keep fishing one of these days you might catch somethin.
And on a personal note, i expected better from you. You must be drunk again. You were never one to throw stones, you respected players for their honor and integrity no matter what side of the fence they were on. One of the qualities I admired in you. So i'll assume its the alcohol talking.
Civil Deity
Wanna kill pirates? Join EV! Join SA! check us out:
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.01.16 05:51:00 -
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Lol, how long is evol gonna keep owning curse by sitting in a blob and running from any force they dont outnumber 2 to 1 btw?
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Sequin
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Posted - 2004.01.16 05:57:00 -
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Your right, which is why we owned another CA force tonite in e02.
^A Raem Civre Original
EVE-Trade, for your buying and selling needs. A Voogru original.
[i]Redon > evol and mass have a GM helping them with everything
Redon > notice how they always get ships replaced and none of us cant <--- Hurray for teamwork!
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Estarriol
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Posted - 2004.01.16 06:15:00 -
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Maiween, i think , thats you discripion.
Nope, Maiwenn is an Evol fighter, and an experienced one, may I add. Translation: not an alt.
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OH ! btw, your sig grafic shows level 3 and learning lvl 4 and you say Rank 2. A very difficult joke about yourself.
Umm... you know how some skills take longer to train than others... as in Rank 2 skill... sometimes shown with a (2) multiplier...
Bah, someone else explain it to this novice.
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John Zeppe
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Posted - 2004.01.16 10:11:00 -
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OH ! btw, your sig grafic shows level 3 and learning lvl 4 and you say Rank 2. A very difficult joke about yourself.
Here's a thread about skills for newbies: Link
You might like it.
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Mordessa
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Posted - 2004.01.16 10:45:00 -
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Edited by: Mordessa on 16/01/2004 10:47:16
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I'm getting really tired of you people thinking Evolution is the hired sword of the SA...
So what your saying here is that were all not getting that 150 billion ISK and 50k Mega and 250k Zyd each?????
JUST WAIT TILL MY UNION REP HEARS ABOUT THIS!!!!!!!!!
I HOPE YOUR KNEES ARE INSURED BUDDY, CAUSE NOBODY MESSES WITH THE UNION, YA HEAR ME?!?!?
NO ONE!!!!
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Lady Pyriel
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Posted - 2004.01.16 12:10:00 -
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Tisk...Tisk...Tisk... "Heres your frickin wake up call!!! COMMON ENEMIES = FRIENDS IN WAR!!!!!!!! All you frickin retards that think we paid them grow up and learn some common sense to put 2 and 2 together" Are you tring to tell us something or just be a jerk? Here is a Lesson for you Civil Deity, open up a dictionary and look up the word "Civil" study it well then get back to us. You win no friends with such poor PR skills. Sorry.
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Mr Blonde
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Posted - 2004.01.16 12:13:00 -
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So basically Rev is saying.. Evol is to the SA what m0o is the CA.
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CT BadIronTree
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Posted - 2004.01.16 13:05:00 -
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People talk stuff like that all the time.
Evidently CA paid us to demolish FA...
Sux don't it?
lol yep
we have SA and evolution and we want more enemys... :P we like payne :P
if we had given you, would be to go ***** evolution... 
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2004.01.16 13:11:00 -
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Evol doesn't own curse 90% of the day.
They do, however, own one system in GW quite frequently. There IS a difference.
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Shrike
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Posted - 2004.01.16 13:22:00 -
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Ezekiel Nailo > hey shrike how are you?
Shrike > just fine thanx
Ezekiel Nailo > good good
Ezekiel Nailo > ummm i noticed that you are in Vol right now
Shrike > Get to the point
Ezekiel Nailo > i dont want to spend my day chasing around evolution so if you guys are looking for a fight you are welcome to come to E02-IK
Is there ANY way to please you? We killed you all over curse, you ran to e02, we killed you in e02, now you complain that we hold you down up there.
There is no need to lock Curse down, since 90% of CA is hiding in e02 <-> u3k.
The poor souls who still are in curse has been taking loads of losses, whil you hid up in e02, doing nothing to help them.
Now, we got asked to come to e02, and when we decided it was time, we did. What else do you want?
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.01.16 13:34:00 -
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I even joined in the fun last night
This is not a hijack
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.01.16 14:58:00 -
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Quote:
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Ezekiel Nailo > hey shrike how are you?
Shrike > just fine thanx
Ezekiel Nailo > good good
Ezekiel Nailo > ummm i noticed that you are in Vol right now
Shrike > Get to the point
Ezekiel Nailo > i dont want to spend my day chasing around evolution so if you guys are looking for a fight you are welcome to come to E02-IK
Is there ANY way to please you? We killed you all over curse, you ran to e02, we killed you in e02, now you complain that we hold you down up there.
There is no need to lock Curse down, since 90% of CA is hiding in e02 <-> u3k.
The poor souls who still are in curse has been taking loads of losses, whil you hid up in e02, doing nothing to help them.
Now, we got asked to come to e02, and when we decided it was time, we did. What else do you want?
Here are a few things
a) stop lieing
b) stop using weakass "tactics" like dropping mines to cause lag
c) stop running like a little girl and fight instead of only attacking when outnumbered 2 to 1
d)get a grip on reality
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Panzer
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Posted - 2004.01.16 15:17:00 -
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Iluyen i see you havent been in curse for the past few days :D.
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.01.16 15:32:00 -
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Iluyen i see you havent been in curse for the past few days :D.
Strange I seem to have seen you in e02 local hiding in a safespot yesterday.
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Slagg
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Posted - 2004.01.16 15:54:00 -
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Leave the propaganda to Crimson Jade
1) He's smarter than you.
2) He's not a nuisance like J. Calvert.
3) He did however say 'travel though stain'. Where do you end up if you do by the way?
If you and your corporation have been relegated back to high secure space and slag spots, it's your own doing.
Long live the heroic freedom fighters!
Edited to remove personal attack, let's keep the flames down. - Corwin
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Scragg
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Posted - 2004.01.16 16:40:00 -
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Edited by: Scragg on 16/01/2004 16:40:45
There may be another even simpler reason as to why Evol hates the CA pirates and shoots at them.
CA Pirate Alliance = Buttheads
Killing Buttheads = Fun
Evol Killing Buttheads = Evol Having Fun
Don't like it? Don't be a butthead.
Can I say butthead or will it get modded severely about the head and shoulders?
Scragg, Tyrell Corporation
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Scragg
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Posted - 2004.01.16 16:43:00 -
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Civil, Civil, Civil - how many temper tantrums do you need to have
Anyone else ever notice how the MO0 always seem to jump into the conversations that have to do with the CA? It's almost like they have some interest in making sure their buddies stay healthy.
Scragg, Tyrell Corporation
Vice-Director Military Operations |
Stavros
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Posted - 2004.01.16 17:07:00 -
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Ever notice how scragg seems to jump into threads about CA, almost like anyone gives a rats about anything he says...
Stav
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bUBbLeS
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Posted - 2004.01.16 17:38:00 -
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does this mean SA aint gonna gimmie that cAkE?
Julius ceaser : "operor vos volo MCCCXXXVII laganum bUBbLeS?"
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Tibor Ferenc
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Posted - 2004.01.16 18:04:00 -
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Simply put Evol like PVP and dont like certain members of the CA. So they fight the CA. It just so happens that SA are fighting CA, so they work together. Simple logic, ignore the BS.
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Civil Deity
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Posted - 2004.01.16 18:24:00 -
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Slagg -
Crimson and I are roommates in case you didn't know. As for being smarter than I. ThatÆs up for debate; I feel we compliment each others strengths and weaknesses very well.
The fact of the matter for the nature of my attitude in this post is that for 1. I donÆt care about being PC anymore. I got something on my mind IÆm gonna say it. If it ****es you off.... good... 2. I was at work and IÆm soo bored at work I love to entertain myself by starting threads that will **** people off. and for the third and final reason see below.
You fail to realize that I know what I'm saying. When people say oh there goes civil ranting again like a little child. Now the naive person says oh civil must be a child to behave that way. The intelligent person says. Hmmm Civil built a corporation that is in the top 5 in net worth, size and off and on in military strength. I wonder if he has ulterior motives for posting like that. Hmmm
Something to ponder.
Civil Deity
Wanna kill pirates? Join EV! Join SA! check us out:
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Main
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Posted - 2004.01.16 18:27:00 -
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does this mean SA aint gonna gimmie that cAkE?
All of the nice cakes have been eaten by me, sorry. I have a Bestower full of Battenberg if you are interested in it?
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Everlasting Vendetta Veteran
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Mistress D'Malice
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Posted - 2004.01.16 18:40:00 -
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I would have to agree with Civil here(checks the sky to make sure all the planets arent aligned with a blood moon). I doubt EV "bought" Evol into the war. I am sure its just a case of "your enemies enemy, is your friend". It was just at a very critical time for SA most think, so the timing came into question by some.
Either way, it doesnt matter now. Evol and SA are at ar with us. How and why doesnt matter at this stage really.
As for the "owning" of Curse. Lets face it ok, you guys gather your forces on different time zones then the majority of us so you can run around as you will. Just like we can do in the evening. When I get home and login for my 4 to 5 hours a night, Evol/SA are hardly even online, much less OWNING anyting. No disrespect to either side.
OWNING anything in this game is a joke and we all need to get over ourselves and face the facts.
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HavokTBP
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Posted - 2004.01.16 18:48:00 -
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When the time is right and they are bored with dominating the northern part of the world they decide to come down and mess up some of their old time enemies.
Lol theres a laugh, they didn't decide to stop, they left FA.
They came down when I challenged them. "CA can blame me for that I guess" an both sides have taken losses. We, unlike some, just don't lie or make a big deal about them, we only started saying anything because of you babies that like to lie.
An what evol found another way to cheat now? Mines? lol.
Member of the Curse Alliance before the Corruption
Leader of The Black Plague.
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Civil Deity
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Posted - 2004.01.16 18:52:00 -
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Mistress you make a very good point which i've been saying to a select few for awhile.
Wars are kinda silly in this game right now for the following reasons.
1) Insurance rates are really high
2) U can just log off when u dont want to fight
3) U can dock in an unkillable station when u dont want to fight.
4) now that frigates and cruisers are so much more useful in combat, alliance wars is like microsoft having a price war on floppy disks.
Once player stations are in the game and we can actually blow up or capture, your stuff when u tuck tail and run. THEN wars will be exciting. For now who owned who is just a bunch of hogwash, both sides are just having fun passing time waiting for the real stuff to enter the game.
Civil Deity
Wanna kill pirates? Join EV! Join SA! check us out:
www.everlastingvendetta.com
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Main
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Posted - 2004.01.16 18:52:00 -
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I would have to agree with Civil here(checks the sky to make sure all the planets arent aligned with a blood moon). I doubt EV "bought" Evol into the war. I am sure its just a case of "your enemies enemy, is your friend". It was just at a very critical time for SA most think, so the timing came into question by some.
Either way, it doesnt matter now. Evol and SA are at ar with us. How and why doesnt matter at this stage really.
As for the "owning" of Curse. Lets face it ok, you guys gather your forces on different time zones then the majority of us so you can run around as you will. Just like we can do in the evening. When I get home and login for my 4 to 5 hours a night, Evol/SA are hardly even online, much less OWNING anyting. No disrespect to either side.
OWNING anything in this game is a joke and we all need to get over ourselves and face the facts.
I would have to agree with you, it does seem to be a seesaw and pointless with us just chasing each other around Catch, Stain and Curse all day. It will be very interesting to see what happens when corporation owned stations and mobile refineries come in, so that a side can lose something that is extraordinarily difficult to replace, not just battleships and industrials.
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Everlasting Vendetta Veteran
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Korath
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Posted - 2004.01.16 19:10:00 -
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Edited by: Korath on 16/01/2004 19:13:51
Well, while I don't really care if the SA hired Evol or not, (it doest make much difference since we're at war with both of them anyway) the SA was chomping at the bit to get Evolution to join their ranks when they broke off from the FA. Everyone voted for it, except for Omega Corp that is. This may be one of the reasons everyone thinks the SA has hired them to do a job. Even before we joined the CA.
One thing though, Evolution suddenly declaring war on Omega Corp just after the SA did is a little fishy to me. Even if the SA isn't paying out money there had to have been discussions with them about coming after us, especially when we have never had any formal or informal relations with Evolution until now, except for when we ran across then in curse a couple times, both us us hunting the CA a few months ago. We said hi to each other and went on our merry ways. It's just to much of a coincidence.
And to think, everyone hates us over a couple systems that at one time had bistot. All this trouble for 29 asteroid belts that we wouldn't give up.
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Civil Deity
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Posted - 2004.01.16 19:23:00 -
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And korath tosses his line into the water.
Civil Deity
Wanna kill pirates? Join EV! Join SA! check us out:
www.everlastingvendetta.com
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Korath
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Posted - 2004.01.16 19:31:00 -
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I'm just stating facts Civil, I'm not trying to get into a peeing contest here.
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Scragg
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Posted - 2004.01.16 19:32:00 -
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I'm sticking with the butthead theory.
Scragg, Tyrell Corporation
Vice-Director Military Operations |
Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2004.01.16 20:20:00 -
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Edited by: Homo Erectus on 16/01/2004 20:22:23
lol, this is awesome.
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We, unlike some, just don't lie or make a big deal about them
and then!!:
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An what evol found another way to cheat now? Mines? lol.
YEA HAVOK, YOU GUYS DON'T MAKE ANYTHING UP, YOU DON'T LIE, YOU ARE NOT PROUD. A VERY NOBLE BREED, YOU CA PPL ARE(lol). WHEN YOU GET PWNED IN THE NOSE, YOU ADMIT IT. YOU DON'T CRY "CHEATER/EXPLOITER/DEV/GM".
you are weak.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.01.16 21:57:00 -
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Please keep this thread friendly and english only.
Thank you
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |
Slagg
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Posted - 2004.01.16 21:58:00 -
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Edited by: Slagg on 16/01/2004 22:00:24
Eris, it's the district court in Iceland. (HÚrasdŸmur ReykjavÝkur), it's from the EULA itself. And if we can't cite the EULA itself which is in English, just because Sybil DirtÚ think so, what can we do?
Don't listen to Everlasting Bull**** as a kneejerk reaction, please.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.01.16 22:01:00 -
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To avoid confusion, please keep it in english.
That way, we can understand it
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |
Slagg
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Posted - 2004.01.16 22:14:00 -
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So Dear Soror Eris Discordia. Happy New Year to you too.
Hell Belzebub.
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Maiwenn LeBesco
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Posted - 2004.01.16 22:30:00 -
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Korath, it may look suspicious if you weren't aware/forgot about Droklar taking the chance as soon as you left the SA to publicly slag off EVOL and TAOSP on the forums.
In a moment akin to Havok's now-famous "bring it" line, he practically begged us to settle a few old scores. Hell, maybe Duke played us & maybe he didnt, but we aren't complaining if he did - we never liked the guy, anyway.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.01.17 03:43:00 -
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Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 17/01/2004 03:45:53
It was during a bit of a slagging match on here that the Duke brought it up. I believe it started when an Evolution member mentioned TAOSP 'owning' OC in beta. I believe Duke's response is what your refering too.
It is only recently, that when the tensions and smack have rose that the Duke attacked you. Quite rightly so as well, you've been quite unproffesional in your manner of conduct in and around these forums, like school children one could say.
Reverend Necrona |
Revolution
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Posted - 2004.01.17 03:48:00 -
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Coming from a guy who posted a url of a guy molesting a bunny in description of Evol,  .
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.17 05:35:00 -
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Silence
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.17 05:38:00 -
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I hope you had a merry christmas and all the joy you can have with your close ones, Eris Discorida.
(She wished me a merry christmas)
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Maiwenn LeBesco
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Posted - 2004.01.17 05:50:00 -
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Edited by: Maiwenn LeBesco on 17/01/2004 05:59:19
No, it wasn't about "owning" anyone.
I posted in passing that OC surrendered to TAOSP during beta, which is TRUE. Droklar even made a formal post about it on the old forums - if they were still up, I would show it to you. The reason I recall it so distinctly, is that I can even remember frstkor posting a pic of a saluting sailor as a mark of respect for your declaration.
Everyone who was around at this time can attest to this plain fact, which Droklar categorically denies and lies through his teeth about. He then had the nerve to claim that in order to win, we used GMs to magically warp our entire fleet outside of OC's station (which he also claims was 50 ships, funny considering it was no more than 15 at the most).
Im not going to say any more on this, as we have been over it many other times. We know the truth, Droklar knows the truth, and everyone else who was playing at the time knows the truth. Even your ex-OC team mates who were there will tell you what happened.
THIS was the point we were arguing on, quite silly considering it was a beta war of very little significance. The plain fact is that we hate blatant liars, and none of us like the Duke. One thing lead to another, and Droklar ended up providing us with the inspiration. The rest is not hard to work out.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.18 01:29:00 -
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Hmmm Civil built a corporation that is in the top 5 in net worth, size and off and on in military strength. I wonder if he has ulterior motives for posting like that. Hmmm
Do you know how silly you are? I personally have more ISK than the entire Everlasting Vendetta corporation.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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N'Fran D'Larn
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Posted - 2004.01.18 08:53:00 -
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Edited by: N'Fran D'Larn on 18/01/2004 08:55:09
Edited by: N'Fran D'Larn on 18/01/2004 08:54:13
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Hmmm Civil built a corporation that is in the top 5 in net worth, size and off and on in military strength. I wonder if he has ulterior motives for posting like that. Hmmm
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Do you know how silly you are? I personally have more ISK than the entire Everlasting Vendetta corporation.
Hmmmmmm, of course you do Skillz. I'm sure its glaringly obvious to everyone how you and your one man corp have managed to build a net worth in the 10's of billions. What is most impressive is that you have managed to do it while spending 90% of your waking hours spreading venom and negativity in these forums. Impressive.
Now as I recall, your auto-response to something like this is to try to deflect away from a logical point by launching personal insults.........
I've spent my 45 minutes for the month reading the "trash" forums, nothing ever changes. Me, I'm going back into the game to keep things moving and fight the good fight.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.18 16:13:00 -
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Yes, it's called corporate theft N'Fran D'Larn. Besides that, before CCP nerfed it, you could make 40 million per hour from raiding the right NPC convoys with a punisher. One of my alts had a lovely -10.0 to Ammatar faction.
Sorry for not having corprate members as mining drones that one has to manage, is that your job, N'Fran D'Larn? Scamming the nubs on their veldspar?
Da Skillz, troll, (honest) nub greifer and corp killer.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Andrew Jade
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Posted - 2004.01.18 18:29:00 -
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Now as I recall, your auto-response to something like this is to try to deflect away from a logical point by launching personal insults......... (n;fran)
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..., is that your job, N'Fran D'Larn? Scamming the nubs on their veldspar? (skillz)
Your really not that bright are you skillz.
Seems ya walked straight into that one.
Oh well.
-Aj-
WTB: Large faction smartbomb with good range. Top isk paid.
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N'Fran D'Larn
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Posted - 2004.01.18 18:49:00 -
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Yes, it's called corporate theft N'Fran D'Larn.
Um, okay. That is one way to play the game. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
And no Skillz, I don't use nOObs to further my own selfish goals as you imply. And you know that is true, regardless of the propaganda you spread here.
It's amazing how often I read posts lamblasting corporations for "squeezing the life blood out of nOObs", grinding them with an opressive heel only to further the select few who run the corp. Oh come on. While there are probably corp's and people like that in the game, those kind of sweeping generalizations are insulting to the intelligence of everyone who plays EVE or any game for that matter. I find it hard to believe that just about everyone doesn't see through such vapid propaganda.
Everlasting Vendetta has spent a long time working to be an honorable and fun place to play EVE, and I believe that most successful mega-corp's work under the same principles or they wouldn't be able to build to that level. Just makes common sense.
We have never promised to be for everyone, who honestly could? We are going to make some mistakes, trip, fall, get back up and keep moving forward. Our organization and structure is rock solid, our membership is awesome and we are all playing to "win the game"! Just stop by the EVER channel and speak to our members, ask them what they think about EV. That's the real tell, now isn't it.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.18 18:54:00 -
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Ok, fair enough. Why don't you publically state how much you pay your members for their ores? You can't do that, now can you?
Sheeeesh
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Jim Bond
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Posted - 2004.01.18 19:02:00 -
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As far as i know, mines are used to kill enemy by making enemy ships go into them. Whats point of laying 1 or 2 mines, where noone is gonna hit them. Might as well lay 30, at least they might do some good. If they cause lag, then this is not why we use them, but we deploy them around stations, so when people undock they fly into them. If this is considered an exploit, as the resulting effect causes lag, then maybe ccp should remove mines from the game.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.18 19:11:00 -
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Yes, if the mine's only value is to cause lag, then remove them.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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N'Fran D'Larn
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Posted - 2004.01.18 19:30:00 -
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Edited by: N'Fran D'Larn on 18/01/2004 19:31:23
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Ok, fair enough. Why don't you publically state how much you pay your members for their ores? You can't do that, now can you?
Of course I can.
We have traditionally maintained transparency about the corporations finances, detailing our internal market structures, corporate goals, assets and corporate wallet. After all, its the corporations isk, not the High Council's. We just manage the funds/corp to make things grow and while there is always room for improvement, I'd like to think we have done a pretty great job of it.
While it would be inappropriate to disclose exact prices in a public forum, I'll happily detail a bit of our corporate financial structure.
Since, as we all know, the corp tax has never worked properly, we have developed what we feel is a fair working model which provided the corp a reasonable profit while providing our membership with virtually every available item, including Battleships, at factory 5/5 cost. We do this by purchasing minerals at a discount from our members and then selling all items to the corp at the factory cost.
Of course a corporation is made up of far more than just miners, so we have other systems in place which allow every member to contribute to the corp's growth in a fair and equitable way. And example would be our Ivory Wing, which is charged with npc farming in different regions to provide high end loot drops for the rest of the membership.Members are also allowed and encouraged to move between wings if they don't like what they are doing.
I got nothing to hide here. True, some folks have occassionally gone away mad, but I expect EV isn't going to be a perfect fit for everyone. That's just life. And I encourage everyone looking for a good corp to stop by the EVER channel and see for yourself what our members have to say. That's where you are going to find real answers to all the mud that has been thrown around on these forums.
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Alpha
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Posted - 2004.01.18 19:40:00 -
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OMG there should be a law to get people full of bull behined bars,,, if you are so rich, why dontcha ever fight me? surely 1 BS loss wouldnt hurt u one iota?
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JaiMaster
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Posted - 2004.01.18 19:52:00 -
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Edited by: JaiMaster on 18/01/2004 20:13:43
Edited by: JaiMaster on 18/01/2004 19:58:56
Edited by: JaiMaster on 18/01/2004 19:57:38
Sigh. What the heck eh. EV ore and mineral prices were two weeks ago as follows (members who fail to sell at these prices will be kicked) -
Veldspar - 3
Scordite - 6.02
Pyro - not listed at time of screendump
Plag - 15.44
Omber - 32.83
Kernite - not listed at time of screendump
jaspet - 127
hemorphite - not listed at time of screendump
hedbergite - 218.58
gneiss - 738.42
dark ochre - 1321
crokite - not listed at time of screendump
bistot - 15748.99
mercoxit - not listed at time of screendump
all ores not listed at time of screendump are those assumedly removed from stain by castor.
Tritanium - 1
Pyrite - 3.4
Mexallon - 13.6
Isogen - 54.4
Noxcium - 217.6
Zydrine - 1700!
Megacyte - 16500
Morphite - not listed at time of screendump
EV attempts to justify these low prices to members by offering them "cost price" ships and equipment. EV in-house corperate sales are approximate to the cost price @ PE3. Members are required to provide 115% of all baser minerals (excluding zyd, and mega, req 100%) to purchase a battleship. Battleships are only available to "Falcon Wing" members for an ISK price which hovers around the price Xanadu BS's retail for.
Of course, the majority of their members dont know this (EV recruits them "young"). Some of them *actually believe* the fastest way to get a battleship is to mine *scordite!* for the corperation in empire space. They are actively encouraged not to read the forums or listen to people from outside of the corp, lest they find out things the EV "high council" doesnt want them to know.
Civil, off the high horse. I quote you from the EV forum -
From the post
Bistot policy - what it is and why it is there
quote - "If you wish to mine bistot outside of stain, you are welcome to try and sneak into curse, fountain or venal and mine there."
All that wonderful "you greedy theives" talk used to justify kicking OC put in perspective maybe? The leader of EV, encouraging members to steal from their friendly neighbours. Kettle, pot, black, hypocritical peanut.
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Skill points. ISK. Ships, rare equipment. Its all just a means to an end...
Your end.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.18 19:55:00 -
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While it would be inappropriate to disclose exact prices in a public forum, I'll happily detail a bit of our corporate financial structure.
Says it all. I give one cookie for effort and one cookie for rhetorics. Do you also tell us the fact that if you as a EV member farm NPCs, EV takes the loot and award 'points'.
What a non-answer of you N'Fran, get on George W. Bush's re-election campaign right now.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.18 19:58:00 -
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Thank you. Jai Master. Want to know what Killer Clowns pays for ores? It provides a free refining efficency V refine. What to know why? We don't fall for cheap scams.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Andrew Jade
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Posted - 2004.01.18 20:17:00 -
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Edited by: Andrew Jade on 18/01/2004 20:22:24
-Aj-
WTB: Large faction smartbomb with good range. Top isk paid.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.18 20:27:00 -
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Of course, the majority of their members dont know this (EV recruits them "young"). Some of them *actually believe* the fastest way to get a battleship is to mine *scordite!* for the corperation in empire space. They are actively encouraged not to read the forums or listen to people from outside of the corp, lest they find out things the EV "high council" doesnt want them to know.
Been in the corp. 6 months and I've been active on the boards - makes you out to be pretty much a liar, eh?
The fact we have so many active members speaks for itself - we're a well-balanced corporation who, through the hardwork of our HC and members, continues to prosper. This benefits both the corporation and the memberships. It's called teamwork, Jaimaster. Teamwork is all about working together towards a common goal.
You wouldn't know about that though, would you? Your time in EV was all about you not anyone else.
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Civil, off the high horse. I quote you from the EV forum -
From the post
Bistot policy - what it is and why it is there
quote - "If you wish to mine bistot outside of stain, you are welcome to try and sneak into curse, fountain or venal and mine there."
Those regions are the most likely place to find bistot so it makes sense that, if you don't mine it in Stain, you'll have to mine it there.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.18 20:27:00 -
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Edited by: Skillz on 18/01/2004 20:32:54
Yes, Andrew, a lot of industrials carry them. Right to us. We also do ore theft too when we're bored as well. It surely beats mining.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.18 20:30:00 -
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Been in the corp. 6 months and I've been active on the boards - makes you out to be pretty much a liar, eh?
JaiMaster, did you hear that you're a liar simply because Joshua Calvert declares that he's been in EV for 6 months. Soon you're a CA alt too.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.18 20:36:00 -
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And Alpha, I'm a CEO and you're a mining drone. I don't care one iota about what you say.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Alpha
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Posted - 2004.01.18 21:24:00 -
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Skillz, CEO of what exactly?
Surely you dont call yourself a CEO of a Corporation?
Keep hitting your MWD's every time u see me in local
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N'Fran D'Larn
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Posted - 2004.01.18 21:30:00 -
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Edited by: N'Fran D'Larn on 18/01/2004 21:38:44
Edited by: N'Fran D'Larn on 18/01/2004 21:37:25
Edited by: N'Fran D'Larn on 18/01/2004 21:34:30
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"jai"
Of course, the majority of their members dont know this (EV recruits them "young"). Some of them *actually believe* the fastest way to get a battleship is to mine *scordite!* for the corperation in empire space. They are actively encouraged not to read the forums or listen to people from outside of the corp, lest they find out things the EV "high council" doesnt want them to know.
Again, this is the kind of propaganda, written by someone who left EV under unfortunate circumstances, which is insulting to anyone with a brain.
(BTW, for those visiting the EVER channel, EV has maintained a minimum skill point requirement for new members for the last 6 months. On the first of the year it was raised from 750K skill points to 1 million skill points. I apoligize to those who read this propaganda, were mislead and stopped by thinking we accepted those who are new to the game)
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"Skillz"
Says it all. I give one cookie for effort and one cookie for rhetorics. Do you also tell us the fact that if you as a EV member farm NPCs, EV takes the loot and award 'points'
Yes, I actually did mention that Skillz. Its the part about Ivory Wing, which directly benefits from our Mining Wing. It's a good system really, during their "corp time" Ivory goes out and collets high end loot drops, keeps some of the best for themselves and then hands over the rest for the rest of the corp to get. This works great as many of our miners, who don't want to head into 0.0 space also enjoy getting some of the best loot drops without paying a premium on the trade channel.
EV created a system in which we ask our members for a minimum of 2 hours a week working for the corp. Its not a perfect system, but with a huge corproation we do try to keep everyone moving in the same direction and IMO, it's more than reasonable.
In regards to the prices we pay our members, I guess you are right, there's no reason I can't discuss that here. The lows are purchased at 85% of NPC rates. "Rares" we try to moniter on the trade channel and, adjusting once a week, buy them from our members at 85% of that weeks average sell price. Again, this is to provide our members with 5/5 factory cost.
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What a non-answer of you N'Fran, get on George W. Bush's re-election campaign right now.
Now that's just cold man. I am not a big Bush supporter to say the least. That one really cut me deep Skillz.
Regarding all this propaganda.
There's a few common sense points that basically say it all about a mega-corp. Any mega-corp.
1) You just don't get that big if you are consistently screwing over your members.
2) All of the people at the top have no motivation to do anything other than work to help their members succeed. That's what builds corporations, turning everyone in your corp. into a winner.
3) Anyone in the game can talk to a few of a corporations active members and get a feel for the organization.
jai and Skillz, it's a shame that your time with EV didn't turn out better. But we have all moved on. I have no need to thrash anyone in these forums or in the game and while I understand the game of trash-talking one-upsmanship, I don't feel the need to get even for percieved past injustices or to raise myself by grinding others down.
Once again: If anyone has questions about EV, just come to the EVER channel and ask our members. That's the bottom line.
I have answered these posts, which you know is not my norm, because I felt that EV needed my voice atm. I'll see you all in the game and let's have a great battle or 10! I'm done now as I have said all I need to say.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.18 21:37:00 -
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Only problem is that I've never seen you in local. Why should we join in our alts into the corporation (like EV) and get 150 newbies (like EV) who never plays because we griefed them out of the game by scamming them (like EV) only so we can stuff strutt and think it's an exploit that people don't think that 'we are winning the game'.
No, I don't use a micro warp drive in any setup. If I travel, I go in a Krestel with the modules and buy a battleship when I get there.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.18 21:45:00 -
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Yes, you have a great future, there are always new players comming to the game. Did you also notice that CCP is making corporate wars rejectable and the whole concept pointless. So you can in peace simply die from veldspar poisoning.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.18 21:50:00 -
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OMG, I almost missed it. I'm going to set up an ore theif division. When the carebears (espeically stain carebears) gets a visit, they will be told to 'declare war'.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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JaiMaster
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Posted - 2004.01.18 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: JaiMaster on 18/01/2004 22:53:26
Edited by: JaiMaster on 18/01/2004 22:42:00
Now thats funny n'fran. When I joined EV but 6 weeks ago the recruitement page stated that a minimum req of 500,000 skill points had only *recently* been instated and that EV no longer accepted players new to the game.
I notice you didnt bother refuting that youve conned many EV members into actually believing the fastest way they can own a BS is to mine scordite in empire.
Propaganda? The truth hurts hey. Out of intrest, how is 1700 for zydrine 85% of the market average of 3500?
As for you calvert, you make one of... 200? And what the hell is this "I played in EV just for me"? When the corp moved to stain I was spending 6 hours a day reprocessing NPC loot and giving away frigates so our players could get themselves down there, because no one with market access was bright enough to put the damned stockpiles on market sell order. I joined every alliance op that was on when I was. I was booted for questioning the policy of making people sell zydrine at 45% of market value, whilst lying through our teeth and calling it 85%. Whatever floats your boat, happy little peanut. I was as team oriented as any other player there, I just didnt appreciate being lied to.
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Skill points. ISK. Ships, rare equipment. Its all just a means to an end...
Your end.
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Pramas
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Posted - 2004.01.18 23:43:00 -
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jaimaster seriuosly grow a set then post again, u tried ev , it wasnt for u, so what move on. I for 1 have never ever been disatisfied with prices paid for ores from EV and remeber here, u should be trying to help corp not go off filling ur own wallet. as far as iam conercenred EV pays gr8 for what ores they get, feel free to flame away
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TOXIC WASTE
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Posted - 2004.01.18 23:55:00 -
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Edited by: TOXIC WASTE on 18/01/2004 23:56:04
Jaimaster you will have to look long and hard to find a more open and friendly corp than EV, plus the corp lets you mine scord in empire or bistot in stain. Yeap one or two areas were off grounds but so what. If castor had not re-distributed the ores, the corp was gonna have planned mining events for anyone to participate in.
Move on jeez, and find another corp.
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JaiMaster
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Posted - 2004.01.19 00:06:00 -
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Edited by: JaiMaster on 19/01/2004 00:08:49
Hey pramas :) Thats like, 4 EV that post now out of 200.
Its not directly about the money. Corp members are LIED to by leadership. Ore sell prices are stated to be 85%, which they arnt. Ship / equipment buy prices are said to be PE4 production cost at corp mineral prices, which they arnt. Mining scordite is "mathmatically proven" to new members to be their fastest way into a battleship, which is downright tripe.
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[ 2004.01.07 05:28:11 ] Apophis Elann > the fastest way to get into a BS is by mining Scordite in shemah
[ 2004.01.07 05:28:16 ] JaiMaster > LOL
[ 2004.01.07 05:28:18 ] Apophis Elann > do the freaking math man
[ 2004.01.07 05:28:48 ] Apophis Elann > you mine far more isk by mining veld and scordite in our home system
[ 2004.01.07 05:29:01 ] Apophis Elann > which means more isk to you
[ 2004.01.07 05:29:12 ] Apophis Elann > let me find the post that shows the math
Of course for someone with a personal wallet big enough to be contemplating flying a titan when they are implemented, all that might not matter. I remember when hauling for you you wernt even aware of the refined value of the minerals you mined, just what EV buy orders would pay for them. Remember that the larger part of EVs membership dont even own a battleship. Alot own a single l3 cruiser which they cant afford to replace if they lose it.
They are the rank and file workhorses of EV, mining scordite for 800k per hour thinking that 140 mining hours later, IF they pass an oddly structured "vet training", IF they can buy the megacyte and zydrine off the market themselves, IF they arnt killed by corps at war with EV whilst falcon flies kestrels and hides in Josh's safe spots in curse, they will be given the honor of flying a battleship sold to them by the corp. Im still wondering what part of EV's math proves selling scordite at 6 is a faster way to make money than selling it at 7. If your in EV and want to stay in, dont dare argue that point though :)
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Skill points. ISK. Ships, rare equipment. Its all just a means to an end...
Your end.
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JaiMaster
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Posted - 2004.01.19 00:21:00 -
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Edited by: JaiMaster on 19/01/2004 00:24:43
Edited by: JaiMaster on 19/01/2004 00:22:38
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Edited by: TOXIC WASTE on 18/01/2004 23:56:04
Jaimaster you will have to look long and hard to find a more open and friendly corp than EV, plus the corp lets you mine scord in empire or bistot in stain. Yeap one or two areas were off grounds but so what. If castor had not re-distributed the ores, the corp was gonna have planned mining events for anyone to participate in.
Move on jeez, and find another corp.
Tehe, the corp that lets you mine scordite in empire. I like that :)
Bistot was officially off limits to everyone. You know that, I know that, we all know that. Well, at least the bistot in EV's area. We were encouraged to steal it from areas allocated to other SA corps, but thats part of the OC saga now isnt it?
Way back to the original topic... asif Evol are being paid for their work... its not EV's way :)
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Skill points. ISK. Ships, rare equipment. Its all just a means to an end...
Your end.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.19 00:48:00 -
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N'Fran D'Larn, if you don't want your corp to be trashed in the forums. Why don't you tell Sybil not to send 'Tread carefully' PMs, just as if your entire carebear teletubbe corporation could actually do anything exept suck on 'roids.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.01.19 05:08:00 -
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Do not let the world change you.
Change the world
Here's everything I know about war: somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the sa |
Sequin
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Posted - 2004.01.19 05:24:00 -
[85]
I never understand the negative sterotype to people being miners, I mean, what gives?
^A Raem Civre Original
EVE-Trade, for your buying and selling needs. A Voogru original.
[i]Redon > evol and mass have a GM helping them with everything
Redon > notice how they always get ships replaced and none of us cant <--- Hurray for teamwork!
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2004.01.19 05:46:00 -
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I think some ppl just need to be putting down ppl just to feel better about themselves. If there were no miners, good luck getting a ship.
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ChroNicoN
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Posted - 2004.01.19 11:24:00 -
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Edited by: ChroNicoN on 19/01/2004 11:25:37
LOL @ jaimaster
corp builds bs' from the minerals you supply
do yoruself a favour and look at some bs' bp's and you will see it needs alot of trit and pye to build them
get a clue before trying to insult
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ChroNicoN
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Posted - 2004.01.19 11:30:00 -
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Bistot was officially off limits to everyone. You know that, I know that, we all know that.
LOL again
that just shows how much you payed attention to corp issues
that was 2 systems off limits untill futher notice
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.01.19 12:35:00 -
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mmm, buying stuff off your own corp? I thought corps was surposed to be teams.
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Main
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Posted - 2004.01.19 13:51:00 -
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mmm, buying stuff off your own corp? I thought corps was surposed to be teams.
The policy is, if a member wants a battleship, they mine for the ore for it, which would be cheaper then buying it from someone else. When i lost my first battleship, there was about 15 members all helping me to get back into my second one.
Main
Everlasting Vendetta Veteran
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.19 15:32:00 -
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No Main, of course you'd love to actually believe what you're saying but it's simply not true.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Civil Deity
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Posted - 2004.01.19 17:22:00 -
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I have 2 things to say to Jai and to the general public to clear some confusion.
1) Crap about our corporate mineral contracts and all that. you no longer have to worry about our economic structure anymore as you are no longer in EV. We have 200+ others who seem to enjoy it, so by you complaining just makes you look jealous. Our economic procedures really have no business in these forums and we wont respond to them as we have had countless meetings and posts making sure our members understand how our economics work and that they are on board with them. I'm sorry you didn't like them but quit living in the past and move on.
2) The post about the bistot policy yes I did write that. on "Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 10:07 pm" it is my fault for not reading it more carefully sooner and updating it, but im sorry if i'm a little too busy to re-read the thousands of pages of content on our website to make sure they are all 100% up to date. We've asked members if they notice something not up to date to send us a message and we'll update. Also about your little post, you failed to mention another aspect. I stated that if there are alliances there respect their borders and leave if you are asked to. I dont even remember who was who back in August but it was a completely different map than it is now. So nice attempt to make EV look bad and that we dont respect others. But we do. Our allies know what kinda corp we are and our members know what kind of corp we are and thats all that matters. You are more than welcome to continue your propoganda war, but at least use whole truths so i cant show your contradictions.
Civil Deity
Wanna kill pirates? Join EV! Join SA! check us out:
www.everlastingvendetta.com
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.19 17:39:00 -
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Crap about our corporate mineral contracts and all that. you no longer have to worry about our economic structure anymore as you are no longer in EV.
Correct, but it also makes me and Jai materially correct.
Pwn3d
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Civil Deity
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Posted - 2004.01.19 17:44:00 -
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there are two ways to look at every coin Skillz. As i dont wish to write a novel nor reveal all the secrets of our economic policy on open forums I wont be posting a proof to why our economic model is both benefitial to the members and the corporation. You two are both ex-members. You have every right to believe what you want. There are two sides to every story. At least i'm smart enough to realize that.
Civil Deity
Wanna kill pirates? Join EV! Join SA! check us out:
www.everlastingvendetta.com
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JaiMaster
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Posted - 2004.01.19 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: JaiMaster on 19/01/2004 19:02:59
Edited by: JaiMaster on 19/01/2004 18:59:04
Chronican, in the last week ive built 2 more battleships than you own. Both cost me less than the wonderful corp would have required, even counting a BPC.
Civil, im STILL waiting for the proof that selling scordite at 6 is better for a player than selling it at 7. Access to corp market hanger? You can get cheaper prices in half a dozen empire regions.
You claim your smart enough to realise there are two sides to every story. This seems to be EV's standard and only comeback to direct attacks upon them on these boards. EV supposedly wants to win every part of EVE; the boards are as much a part of EVE as josh hiding in deepspace bookmarks most of the day. The quote is not even out of context. It states what it states. Steal from our allies, just dont mine our bistot, the corp owns that.
Bistot wasnt just off limits in a couple of systems. It was off limits in all of EV space. Or dont you guys even read your own forums?
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Your end.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.19 19:21:00 -
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Am I the only one here who could really give a rats azz what EV pays for scord?
ALL corps use different systems. It either works for them and their members or it doesn't.
Deal with it.
You may all resume the ca-sa-evol flame fest untill the inevitable click
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.19 19:26:00 -
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Everlasting Vendetta don't approve of critique, that's why it's so fun to critize them, deal with that.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Andrew Jade
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Posted - 2004.01.19 21:40:00 -
[98]
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Am I the only one here who could really give a rats azz what EV pays for scord?
ALL corps use different systems. It either works for them and their members or it doesn't.
Deal with it.
You may all resume the ca-sa-evol flame fest untill the inevitable click
thats the most sensible thing said on this thread.
-Aj-
WTB: Large faction smartbomb with good range. Top isk paid.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.19 22:43:00 -
[99]
So why do you try to make your members not reading the forums? Do you have something to conceal from them?
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.01.19 23:58:00 -
[100]
no, just encuraged not to feed trolls like yourself
I have yet to be told not to read the forums
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.20 00:06:00 -
[101]
How about 'keep hitting that MWD' from Alpha? I don't use mwds in any setup but I know people who does.
The Everlasting Microwarp Drive Queens
nubs
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Pramas
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Posted - 2004.01.20 00:10:00 -
[102]
bloody hell skillz, thats from august if u look at the date, get some new material
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.20 00:24:00 -
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I don't care, it was you that yap yap yapped about micro warp drives. And why don't you have any new screenshots or fraps videos?
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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ChroNicoN
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Posted - 2004.01.20 01:41:00 -
[104]
jaimaster for your info i have my bs so make that 1 more and i dont feel the need for more then one and yes i too would own 2 if i wanted to but i tend to put corp first rather then my own wallet and mine for minerals the corp is starting to run low on ... i also would have been in this bs abit quicker if someone *not mentioning any names* didnt blow up my ore cans
maybe you should try working for others in a team sometime rather then being greedy
you were kicked just move on dude and get over it
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.20 01:51:00 -
[105]
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jaimaster for your info i have my bs so make that 1 more and i dont feel the need for more then one and yes i too would own 2 if i wanted to but i tend to put corp first rather then my own wallet and mine for minerals the corp is starting to run low on
Speaks volumes. Can I have people like you in my corp too, or does that take too much 'handeling' so you mine like a good drone?
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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JaiMaster
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Posted - 2004.01.20 04:42:00 -
[106]
Edited by: JaiMaster on 20/01/2004 04:49:58
So you dont read the EV forums then enraku, obviously.
Congrats on the bs chron. Sorry about the ore, I considered it as trade for my stolen mineral account. Perhaps you should talk to con man about claiming what I had.
BTW I still dont see what part of what I did was being greedy. I was kicked for first discussing then later arguing the points with a tard who upon losing the argument comprehensively, booted me without even letting his fellow high council member in chat know, leave alone discussing it with him before hand. (I know this because a friend in EV, who has since left in disgust, told me n'fran was still replying to me even though I wasnt there).
Heres a big point that maybe some in EV have missed. I wasnt even in the mining wing. I was ivory wing. How can I be a greedy git for challanging the way the corp paid the miners? Personal greed? Hello, thats the coffee, can you smell it yet...
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Skill points. ISK. Ships, rare equipment. Its all just a means to an end...
Your end.
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.01.20 08:46:00 -
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Skillz, you may not understand, but in combat a MWD can be very usefull, espically if you move around alot. Take curse for example, if I want to move from H-ADOC to HLW then to e02, and do it frequently it would take me forever without a mwd. So the mwd enables us to be quick and effective moving between points. although at a disadvantage in fleet battles there great for ganking.
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Main
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Posted - 2004.01.20 12:41:00 -
[108]
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Skillz, you may not understand, but in combat a MWD can be very usefull, espically if you move around alot. Take curse for example, if I want to move from H-ADOC to HLW then to e02, and do it frequently it would take me forever without a mwd. So the mwd enables us to be quick and effective moving between points. although at a disadvantage in fleet battles there great for ganking.
Skillz is allergic to any sort of confrontation. He prefers to stab you in the back and run with your handbag then face you man to man. I must admit, it has made him very rich but when 99% of the people think your a ****, is it really worth it?
Main
Everlasting Vendetta Veteran
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.20 15:46:00 -
[109]
Sutty:
First of all I'm not saying you are doing it.
An MWD is good for two things. Traveling and the use of the grid bug.
An MWD needs to be nerfed. Why not remove all shields and half cap when it's mounted on a ship. If you mount two of those, the ship ought to blow up.
Main:
I'm not allergic to information. On the contrary, that's why I'm not a member of corporation like yours.
I don't backstab with my main avatar and I don't treat corporation members like miner dirt by telling them fairy tales and insulting their intelligence.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.20 16:40:00 -
[110]
Oh, I really need to get myself new glasses. No I'm not allergic to confrontation. Everlasting is, they write a lot of friviolus petitions to get people temp banned. Is that a tactic or an exploit?
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Main
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Posted - 2004.01.20 17:33:00 -
[111]
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Oh, I really need to get myself new glasses. No I'm not allergic to confrontation. Everlasting is, they write a lot of friviolus petitions to get people temp banned. Is that a tactic or an exploit?
I think it is a service we offer free of charge to better all corporations and players in the game
Main
Everlasting Vendetta Veteran
Member of the Stain Alliance |
Main
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Posted - 2004.01.20 17:36:00 -
[112]
Quote:
Main:
I don't backstab with my main avatar and I don't treat corporation members like miner dirt by telling them fairy tales and insulting their intelligence.
So you are petrified to confront anyone with your main avatar and prefer to skulk around like some Golam wannabe.
"Ahhhh, my precioouusss, my precioooussss, give me my precioooussss", i bet you even talk to yourself as well when you are cowering in some space station whilst a fleet of ships are waiting outside.
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Everlasting Vendetta Veteran
Member of the Stain Alliance |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.20 17:47:00 -
[113]
Are people still replying to this thread?
EV's membership numbers speak for themselves - vast majority of people are happy with the structure of the corporation and to suggest they are being "fooled" by anyone is an insult to their intelligence.
EV's structure is also something not for public consumption - it's upto the individual to decide. We hold no grudges if you join and then leave with dignity and maturity because you don't like our structure etc.
We DO, however, hold grudges if you behave like the immature Skillz and the bitter Jaimaster. Jaimaster has his own ideas about how to run a corporation and he's welcome to them. We just didn't agree. His removal wasn't handled in the best way but he had no reason to post corporation information on a public forum. That was just low and dishonourable.
Skillz, well, he's just a strangely paranoid character who is obsessed with EV and assumes we're behind every one of his temp. bannings.
Little does he know, we care not ONE iota about him. He's chump-change.
I suggest this thread should be locked because it's run its course.
No doubt another alt or CA member will start something up SoonÖ because EV are flavour of the month
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.20 17:55:00 -
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So you are petrified to confront anyone with your main avatar and prefer to skulk around like some Golam wannabe.
Hmm, I don't think that I can be any more hated with Skillz. Known griefer (unlike regional alliance punks with positive sec. statuses) and Corp theif.
Killer Clowns have over hundred player corporations that has -10.00 towards us. If I'm afraid of a confrontation, why whould I confront most of the known universe.
You really need to think over what you're saying Main. This is an all time low for the EV propaganda machine.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.20 18:06:00 -
[115]
Quote:
EV's membership numbers speak for themselves - vast majority of people are happy with the structure of the corporation and to suggest they are being "fooled" by anyone is an insult to their intelligence.
Ok, why was N'Fran D'Larn complaining in the Help channel about why he coulden't kick inactive players?
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We DO, however, hold grudges if you behave like the immature Skillz and the bitter Jaimaster. Jaimaster has his own ideas about how to run a corporation and he's welcome to them. We just didn't agree. His removal wasn't handled in the best way but he had no reason to post corporation information on a public forum. That was just low and dishonourable.
He was kicked because he asked how your zydrine price could be 80% when it was in fact around 50%
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Skillz, well, he's just a strangely paranoid character who is obsessed with EV and assumes we're behind every one of his temp. bannings.
Well, the mail I got from CCP strangely mentioned that one PC pirate was 'harrassing' big bad ultra cool corporation of 200 members. How is that even possible to begin with?
It's only possible if that corporation are carebears-nublar-teletubbies(tm) that anyone can kick in the face, at ease.
JaiMaster, if they don't give you the ores that you have mined for your battleship, I suggest you take it back by applying the law of salvage on their miner drones' jettison cans. Con'Mal can surely pay them for not leaving.
My last reply to this topic.
*click*
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.20 18:08:00 -
[116]
Quote:
Ok, why was N'Fran D'Larn complaining in the Help channel about why he coulden't kick inactive players?
You answered your own question.
Clue: Inactive.
Not unhappy.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Main
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Posted - 2004.01.20 19:17:00 -
[117]
Quote:
Quote:
So you are petrified to confront anyone with your main avatar and prefer to skulk around like some Golam wannabe.
Hmm, I don't think that I can be any more hated with Skillz. Known griefer (unlike regional alliance punks with positive sec. statuses) and Corp theif.
Killer Clowns have over hundred player corporations that has -10.00 towards us. If I'm afraid of a confrontation, why whould I confront most of the known universe.
You really need to think over what you're saying Main. This is an all time low for the EV propaganda machine.
Confronting them from the peephole in a station really isn't confronting them. Come outside and come to Catch and we can have a quiet chat and talk about your ways and how you can change. Perhaps giving your money to the "Save Minmatar Children Trust" or to help bring peace to the Amarrian empire perhaps?
Main
Everlasting Vendetta Veteran
Member of the Stain Alliance |
JaiMaster
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Posted - 2004.01.20 20:04:00 -
[118]
Edited by: JaiMaster on 20/01/2004 20:05:20
Yes, he should march out into catch and take on half a dozen EV ships by himself so you can prove a point.
Or perhaps run to josh's bookmarks, if there were just one of you.
Josh, im just angry at myself. I cant beleive I got kicked out of what I thought was an incredibly noobish corp (based on experience from other MMORPG games). Look up www.tdzk.net. EV are so much like "Lords Of Fear" in that game its astounding. 10 good players and 190 assorted hopeless helpers... surely you can understand the indignity involved in being actually kicked by such a corp :) Of course, I wasnt the hopless helper they were looking for :(
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.20 20:18:00 -
[119]
Typically sycophantic, Jaimaster has fallen into the "Joshua safespot" routine.
Boring!
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.01.20 21:32:00 -
[120]
Quote:
Typically sycophantic, Jaimaster has fallen into the "Joshua safespot" routine.
Boring!
Yes, please follow Josh, EV and SA's example and refrain from endlessly repeating any.. ahem.. i mean.. ... that is don't just recycle the same old.. i mean you can't just keep saying... ahem, pardon me.. i...
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.01.20 22:02:00 -
[121]
ok, this has gone on long enough, i may as well try to put an end to it:
I have two accounts and play two characters. My other character is in EV. They're good guys. They're not pansies.
Deal.
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Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.01.20 23:23:00 -
[122]
Quote:
Edited by: JaiMaster on 20/01/2004 20:05:20
Look up www.tdzk.net. EV are so much like "Lords Of Fear" in that game its astounding. 10 good players and 190 assorted hopeless helpers... surely you can understand the indignity involved in being actually kicked by such a corp :) Of course, I wasnt the hopless helper they were looking for :(
I fail to see how anyone in the corp is hopeless
and pooti
Im not sure if its good or bad
you complement us, yet your in the corp
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.20 23:40:00 -
[123]
cough sarcasam cough
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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fuze
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Posted - 2004.01.21 15:31:00 -
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A most entertaining thread it is.
Skillz clearly is a (dark) master of words.
Quite skillfully manages to twists anything he wants others to believe.
Fair enough, he's a griefer and thus totally in character.
As victim of CA actions I applaud to every corp or member that is destoying CA properties. EVOL is doing a great job at it as we speak.
It might be fun to pay mOo to pod every single CA vessel. Just overbid CA will do the trick. It's not like they are bound by any ethics are they?
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crice
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Posted - 2004.01.21 18:02:00 -
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I'm getting really tired of you people thinking Evolution is the hired sword of the SA...
I'm gonna give you all a HUGE lesson in basic sociology so sit back and enjoy.
Several organizations, now with the CA have in the past committed acts in fountain against EVOL to **** them off.
EVOL having better things to do dismisses it and goes about their business.
When the time is right and they are bored with dominating the northern part of the world they decide to come down and mess up some of their old time enemies.
Those enemies happen to be the same as the SA.
Heres your frickin wake up call!!! COMMON ENEMIES = FRIENDS IN WAR!!!!!!!! All you frickin retards that think we paid them grow up and learn some common sense to put 2 and 2 together.
I'm glad to have evolution on our side as they are humorous characters, outstanding warriors and even better friends.
You guys are seriously running out of bait on your fishing poles. So stop fishing for things. Instead sit back think about it for 2 seconds and save yourself the embarrassment of guessing at falsities in front of the whole community.
Civil I expected a little more professionalism in your post. I can understand your frustration. Just blow it off. Who cares either way? If EVOL rocks and they are with ya, then so be it. Doesn't matter how or why.
That is my own opinion.
Crice
CEO-Crice Corp
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.01.21 19:42:00 -
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It might be fun to pay mOo to pod every single CA vessel. Just overbid CA will do the trick. It's not like they are bound by any ethics are they?
Sooo... the thread's gone from a whiny declaration of "EV is not paying Evol" to "CA must be paying m0o."
PS i worry about anyone who looks *up* to Skillz' ability with language...
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.01.21 21:37:00 -
[127]
Hey BH did you see my slaves?
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Deathwing Duck muttered:
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Hardin, I have slaves
Lots of slaves
30,000 slaves
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yes, please send us a video transmission of your 30,000 slaves, since everytime you interrupt an intelligent conversation with your muppet mutterings, the number increases...
http://www34.brinkster.com/deathwingeve/Slaves.JPG <---- look BH!!!! LOOOOOOOOOK!!!!!!
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Civil Deity
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Posted - 2004.01.21 21:42:00 -
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circe... you're right reading over it again.
Although I had ulterior motives for spicing up this thread... Part of the reason..
But you're right. EV has always been more mature than this thread and I will return to our professionalism in future posts.
Civil Deity
Wanna kill pirates? Join EV! Join SA! check us out:
www.everlastingvendetta.com
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.22 03:53:00 -
[129]
So what are you doing in Heimatar? My pals MK Ultra and jus2awesome have been seeing you do strange stuff. Like have six battleships just sitting 10km from a secure can.
Perhaps we will make that 70 jump travel to give you something real to shoot at.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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