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RubyPorto
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Posted - 2012.01.05 13:50:00 -
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Always consider an online WT to be a threat. Just like ratting with a hostile in system is stupid, doing stuff with a WT in system is stupid unless that stuff is fighting said WT.
Also, there's nothing stopping you from using the same tactics, or a DecShield, or any of the numerous former Exploits relating to WarDecs that are now legal.
But so long as there is a Session Change Timer between them joining corp and Agressing, they're doing nothing wrong. |
RubyPorto
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Posted - 2012.01.05 14:45:00 -
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Anything regarding Wardecs that can be done in the game is legal except for switching corps in space to catch targets. (I would guess switching in space out of a decced corp right before they shoot would cause some hilarious tears and be considered a valid mechanic)
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19881&find=unread
Yes, it's a problem and some of the issues used to be banned, but nothing has ever stopped people from joining and leaving decced corps at will, and that's not a bad thing, since the fixes to the "abuse" are much worse than the abuse could ever be.
So the tactic you're taking issue with has never been deemed exploitative.
As to 3, why would you bother using a scout who's at war with your WT? Use a neutral cloaky scout to provide you with a cloaked warpin point (and possibly suicide tackle) to your WT. |
RubyPorto
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Posted - 2012.01.05 15:02:00 -
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CausticS0da wrote:
I thought I had read that this is considered an exploit.
The GMs have been clear. Aside from attacking someone After joining a corp-at-war but Before undergoing a session change timer, Nothing related to Wardecs is an Exploit.
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RubyPorto
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Posted - 2012.01.05 15:23:00 -
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disasteur wrote:Jack Dant wrote:disasteur wrote:the persons in question hunt and look for easy targets..alt comes online and accept his buddy's
in to his corp, this goes in matters of just 1 to 2 minutes, and then they attack as me or my friends are a liable target If they do it while in local with you and in space, it's an exploit. thats just what i was trying to explain its exactly the tactic they use, afterwards they dock and leave corp for a save getaway
Jack Dan is right, but incomplete.
The rule is that you must go through a session change timer (undocking, switching ships in space, going through a gate, Jumping with a Cap ship, etc) between switching into a corp with an active wardec and aggressing a WT.
Local has nothing to do with it. The easiest way to tell that someone is using this exploit is that (with a properly set up overview) they do not appear to be WTs until they fire upon you(I believe this is still the case).
So long as they switch corps while in station, while in their pod before boarding their ship, or while on the other side of a gate, they will have gone through a session change timer and will have done nothing wrong. All of these but being in a different system will result in a neutral suddenly becoming a WT in local.
EDIT: I misread Jack Dan's post, didn't see the "and in space part" |
RubyPorto
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Posted - 2012.01.05 19:46:00 -
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Well, all right then, looks like I misremebered the post. It does mention docking or logging to make the corp swap in the GM post I was thinking of.
So Docking, Logging, or jumping systems needs to happen before agression to avoid *Wrath*
I'm not clear, however, on weather or not OP's violencers are actually in space with him (Identified on grid/Dscan) when they corp hop, or off Grid (in which case it would be tough to prove in the forums that they didn't do one of the above). |
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