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Morrigan Starlover
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Posted - 2007.06.21 04:42:00 -
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Its a little overboard when enemy BS's are tanking over half your DPS before your missiles even land. FOUR defender missile turrets on enemy BSs... FOUR
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UGWidowmaker
Caldari Setenta Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.21 04:47:00 -
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well then maybe its harder for rawens finaly... thx ccp OMFG
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Ephemeron
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.21 04:49:00 -
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What's getting out of hand is rampant Raven spammage for all PvE activity
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Morrigan Starlover
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Posted - 2007.06.21 04:54:00 -
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God forbid caldari be useful for something.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2007.06.21 05:22:00 -
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Maybe switch to guns then...
If you use the wrong tools against your enemies you can hardly complain. Or do you next want to complain that for example your thermal missiles don't do any damage because the enemy has thermal hardeners and very high resistances?
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.21 05:24:00 -
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Originally by: Morrigan Starlover God forbid caldari be useful for something.
God forbid people use a ship other than the Raven for missions.
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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.06.21 05:31:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Morrigan Starlover God forbid caldari be useful for something.
God forbid people use a ship other than the Raven for missions.
You mean we're allowed? I thought it was against the EULA to use ships other than Ravens for missions?
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Maglorre
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Posted - 2007.06.21 07:34:00 -
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Wouldn't be so bad if the damn things worked for players as well. Bloody useless pieces of crap.
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Setana Manoro
Gallente Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.21 08:15:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Morrigan Starlover God forbid caldari be useful for something.
God forbid people use a ship other than the Raven for missions.
You mean we're allowed? I thought it was against the EULA to use ships other than Ravens for missions?
You aren't ! Doing so will get you perma-banned. :) ---
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Xtro 2
Caldari Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2007.06.21 08:50:00 -
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Originally by: Maglorre Wouldn't be so bad if the damn things worked for players as well. Bloody useless pieces of crap.
agreed.
Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman. Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder. |

Ventallia Renvess
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Posted - 2007.06.21 09:00:00 -
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Edited by: Ventallia Renvess on 21/06/2007 08:59:32 alt :( -----------
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Copine Callmeknau
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.06.21 09:01:00 -
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Is this new? If so I think my phoon just became pretty useless for missions :(
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Originally by: Patch86 Depressing as hell though. By the end, you feel like someone's eaten your kitten.
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Camilo Cienfuegos
EP0CH
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Posted - 2007.06.21 09:03:00 -
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Edited by: Camilo Cienfuegos on 21/06/2007 09:02:48 A-ha, they've upped the amount of defenders that are spewed out in missions eh? Thank god I fly Amarr :)
Now... how about that speed boost for Caldari? 
Quote: Wouldn't be so bad if the damn things worked for players as well. Bloody useless pieces of crap.
I could just be dense (I am, but I digress) but isn't the efficacy determined by the launcher into which they are fitted? IE, stick it in a torp launcher and it'll down torps but be useless against light missiles -- Fix Caldari | Fix Rigs |

Mastin Dragonfly
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.06.21 09:03:00 -
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Edited by: Mastin Dragonfly on 21/06/2007 09:03:05
Originally by: Morrigan Starlover Its a little overboard when enemy BS's are tanking over half your DPS before your missiles even land. FOUR defender missile turrets on enemy BSs... FOUR
Maybe try to shoot from close range instead of sitting 150km away. I fly a Nightmare, my 4 missiles don't get a velocity bonus and I rarely loose more than 1 missile of a volley.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.21 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Morrigan Starlover Its a little overboard when enemy BS's are tanking over half your DPS before your missiles even land. FOUR defender missile turrets on enemy BSs... FOUR
And this when happened? Or only the gallente navy ships are doing it, as I haven't noticed this AM missile use?
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Lal QelThyr
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.21 09:33:00 -
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Bwuhaha! *continues to run level 4's in Domi* 
Just got me t2 Heavies. Gonna be fun.
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Talder
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Posted - 2007.06.21 09:33:00 -
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use torps
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Callthetruth
Caldari Logical Logtistics
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Posted - 2007.06.21 09:36:00 -
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use minmatar snipers
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Mirasta
Aggressive Tendencies
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Posted - 2007.06.21 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Morrigan Starlover God forbid caldari be useful for something.
God forbid people use a ship other than the Raven for missions.
You mean we're allowed? I thought it was against the EULA to use ships other than Ravens for missions?
I hear megas do ok at missions
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Ladyah Liandri
VMF-214 Blacksheep
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Posted - 2007.06.21 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie Maybe switch to guns then...
If you use the wrong tools against your enemies you can hardly complain. Or do you next want to complain that for example your thermal missiles don't do any damage because the enemy has thermal hardeners and very high resistances?
You're kidding, right? Rails on a Raven, come on!
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Rafein
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Posted - 2007.06.21 10:21:00 -
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Well, if missions are getting difficult for Caldari, du to Defenders, you really only have one solution. Rokh it.
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Death Kill
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2007.06.21 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Morrigan Starlover God forbid caldari be useful for something.
God forbid people use a ship other than the Raven for missions.
I use drake. Take that!
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Iteken Hotori
Minmatar GTE Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.21 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Rafein Well, if missions are getting difficult for Caldari, du to Defenders, you really only have one solution. Rokh it.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.21 14:27:00 -
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Think of it as adaptive learning. The NPCs were so fed up of getting slaughtered by 1000's of CNRs every day, they've finally changed their set ups to counter it  --------
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.21 14:32:00 -
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Get a Rokh. My buddy can complete level 4 missions in it better and faster with a Rokh than a raven  <sig> IBTL! IBDS! IBTC! 1st in a BoB Post! And other such forum tom-foolery. Join my Corporation! |

Vitrael
Stormriders Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.06.21 14:34:00 -
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Last thing I thought I'd ever see was a whine about Ravens not doing missions fast enough.
You get a 10% bonus to cruise missile and torp speed per level. If you're anywhere near your target at all, cruise missiles are going to hit in a matter of seconds, and torps will take 2 defenders to destroy. If that doesn't work? Well bugger all, try using a ship you actually have to think about while flying for a change.
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Caios
Caldari Unified Refining Federation Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.21 16:22:00 -
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I'd have to agree with the people saying this is nothing but whining, except also suggest that defender missiles ought to work this well for player ships too. It's been the biggest joke of a fitting for a long time now; even the civilian mods are more useful in their own way.
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Keorythe
Caldari Terra Rosa Militia
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Posted - 2007.06.22 00:53:00 -
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Yeah, it would be nice if player defenders were as good at npc defenders.
However, using torps cancel any problem you have with npc defenders. Takes 2 hits to kill a torp and most of the time your full torp volley reaches its target. Not as fast and flashy as cruise missiles but a heck of a lot more effective for PvE.
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2007.06.22 01:00:00 -
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You need to be close-> as the other guy, above me, suggested.
If you are 100k away, sure as hell NPCs will pop most of your missiles. If you are that far away Rokh works great for missions, pops frigates in Single Volley And NPC battleships are not match for it either.
If you still want the missiles then you can get a Cerberus, eats through L4s like butter, Nighthawk, or Drake is still viable for L4's.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.06.22 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: UGWidowmaker well then maybe its harder for rawens finaly... thx ccp
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