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Rash Rutter	Posted - 2007.06.21 05:37:00 - [1] Got this level 2 mission from Zwendt Brinalle. not pretty much as reward at all, part 3 gain 10.000 isk and 10 LP, worsest lvl 2 mission i saw jet bot ok i fly anything once, well this one gone devasating... 1st I try it with the fastest frig i got, (just a seek out mission no fighting within), toxic cloud destroyed my ship as i reached that gate and tryd jumping. 2nd I trought need more armor and repair and took my Vexor(bad choice) , i made it half way to the gate got full armor and hull and it explodes imidiatly. 3rd i choose my exequror trying to save my Vexor fitting... i made a bookmark at the wreck location, (bookmarks didnt work in this mission eatherbut however)it explodes as I entered out of warp in that cloud. Thats a hell of a mission for 10.000 isk and 10 LP
Malcom Hash	Posted - 2007.06.22 21:04:00 - [2] I demand a CCP dude right here right now !!!! What is this mission L4 ?? No red warning in mission txt, no time to act after warp. I had Recon (3 of 3) and went in my Crow as the the 2 others Recon gave me no problem with it. Here i warp in : Instapop [20:40:00] "Message > Waves of radiation, debris and hazardous gas blast into your ship." 30M equipment gone for a 600k isk and 1k LP, i demand full refund !! Victim: Malcom Hash Alliance: NONE Corp: Ecliptic Environment Destroyed: Crow System: Stou Security: 0.5 Involved parties: Name: Toxic Cloud Environment / Unknown (laid the final blow) Destroyed items: Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 333 (Cargo) Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters TE-2100 Standard Missile Bay Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 42 It would be to more intelligent to make ur shield/armor/hull decrease rapidly but let u the time to warp out. How can i finish the mission? I wonder if i should my T2 Raven for huge shield/armor/hull...
Herring Pimpology Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2007.06.22 21:37:00 - [3] Originally by: Malcom Hash Edited by: Malcom Hash on 22/06/2007 21:32:18 I demand a CCP dude right here right now !!!! What is this mission L4 ?? No red warning in mission txt, no time to act after warp. I had Recon (3 of 3) and went in my Crow as the the 2 others Recon gave me no problem with it. Here i warp in : Instapop [20:40:00] "Message > Waves of radiation, debris and hazardous gas blast into your ship." 30M equipment gone for a 600k isk and 1k LP, i demand full refund !! Victim: Malcom Hash Alliance: NONE Corp: Ecliptic Environment Destroyed: Crow System: Stou Security: 0.5 Involved parties: Name: Toxic Cloud Environment / Unknown (laid the final blow) Destroyed items: Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 333 (Cargo) Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters TE-2100 Standard Missile Bay Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 42 It would be to more intelligent to make ur shield/armor/hull decrease rapidly but let u the time to warp out. How can i finish the mission? I wonder if i should try my T2 Raven with specific huge shield/armor/hull fitting... a passive tanked battlecruiser works very well for this particular mission.
JenDen Caldari LFS Corp	Posted - 2007.06.22 22:03:00 - [4] Do resistances help at Recon 3/3? I completed this one this morning on my active fitted Nighthawk, the moment I was a bit scared when I was hit for like 2k damage, but after that there was no damage at all.
Iyxe	Posted - 2007.06.22 22:22:00 - [5] EM resistance seemed to reduce the dmg
Andy Roo Caldari Righteous Chaps	Posted - 2007.06.22 22:24:00 - [6] I went in in my Domi like the other 2, 4 hardeners, one for each type, and 2 LAR II running constantly, had no problems. Got me to half armour at one point, but was fun. A good change from the usual boring missions.
lansha Prison Break Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.23 01:31:00 - [7] Edited by: lansha on 23/06/2007 01:31:18 rolf. i'm so glad i'm not the only one to be caught out and try to use a crow (in my case) to complete this mission series. the 1st 2 parts are easy but should have known ccp had a surprise.. it's a lvl4, not ment to be done in a frig,af or cruiser. that toxic cloud and leading ppl into a false sense..... ccp you're , but loving it an enemy of an enemy is a friend
Naomi Wildfire Amarr Stardust Heavy Industries Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.06.23 01:49:00 - [8] Whiner :) I like it Fastet and easiest mission ever. First two doable in a Frig and the other in most ships Signature Your signature exceeds the 24000 byte limit on the forums. -Darth Patches
Thoroughbreed	Posted - 2007.11.09 08:47:00 - [9] Lol... just wanted to try it in a condor, lost my ship instantly, but then, my pod dosn't take damage? So what the heck, i'm doing a LVL 4 mission in a pod
Boratora Gallente Really Nice And Laidback Corporation	Posted - 2007.11.09 11:26:00 - [10] The mission text warns you adequately of the dangers. Any resulting loss of the ship is due to your failure to take due diligence in preventing the loss, rather than any trickery on behalf of CCP. When entering a mission you are not familiar with it is best to obtain as much information as possible first.

Archa Caldari Chickens with an Attitude	Posted - 2007.11.09 11:50:00 - [11] hmm lvl 4 recon 3/3 i fit my abaddon with 6 overdrives and an afterburner. i get about 500 up to 750 damage from the enviroment every say what? 10 seconds? gets me across very easily.
Myyona Minmatar Thukker Mix	Posted - 2007.11.09 13:06:00 - [12] I love mission varity. This is one of my favorites.
Iced Earth Caldari Goat Riders	Posted - 2007.11.09 15:00:00 - [13] Originally by: Thoroughbreed Lol... just wanted to try it in a condor, lost my ship instantly, but then, my pod dosn't take damage? So what the heck, i'm doing a LVL 4 mission in a pod You cant do it in your pod.
Gwynn Worvan Gallente Fine Art Manufactury	Posted - 2007.11.09 22:37:00 - [14] Edited by: Gwynn Worvan on 09/11/2007 22:38:42 Well, I use my Damnation to do it, 90%+ resists do help, i can tell you. And the waves seem to be different dmg types, at least they are varying in strength. Also, it does say in the mission text "You probably want to use a heavily tanked battleship" or some such... Doing missions in afk or "sleeper" mode is a fast way to lose money if you¦re not 100% sure what you are doing. There are excellent sites out there that will give you pretty accurate descriptions of the dangers that you will face, for example: http//Eve-survival.org However, even with these it¦s always good to move with caution, specially if you haven¦t DONE the mission before... Sorry for your loss. Edit: Oh, and i haven¦t done the lvl 2 version, but if it¦s as bad as OP says, that does sound pretty crazy for such a mission, yes... Double sorry for your loss... ________________________________________________ FIMA Now selling many Tech 2 fittings, all armor, energy, missile launcher, blaster and shield mods. Also selling Tech 2 ammo, and Tech 1 rigs.
Xela Dioved	Posted - 2007.11.10 03:17:00 - [15] Edited by: Xela Dioved on 10/11/2007 03:19:28 The Agent actually tells you to take a heavily tanked Battleship (at least on the level 4 version)..... so if you take a Crow or anything lesser than a BS and it blows up, why are you surprised? A Sleipnir with omni resists of 69%+ was fine when I did this.
evriss	Posted - 2007.11.10 10:24:00 - [16] So long as you take a reasonably tanked, appropriately sized ship (i.e. frig, cruiser, bc, bc/bs for levels 1,2,3,4 respectively) you'll be fine. As for stages 1/3 and 2/3 you can do them in a shuttle or for a greater chance of survival, a speed-fitted frigate (full rack of overdrives, AB, invul). Remember folks, the clue for this mission is in the name, and in the mission descriptions :-) didn't pay attention and got your ship popped? working as intended.
Commander Prishe Caldari The LoneStar Corp Edge Of Sanity	Posted - 2007.11.10 11:34:00 - [17] The three level 4 recons are the most easiest missions there are, can do all 3 in about 15 minutes or less
Darling Hassasin	Posted - 2007.11.10 20:29:00 - [18] Ok guys pull your e-peens back in your pants ... he asked about lvl 2. It so happens I did it the other day with my alt. I used Retribution with 1 thermic II, 1 energ adaptive II, 1x200 rt plate 1xsarII... it was allreight though in the end I got a really big whack that took most of my armor away... I think perhaps you only get the big hit if you loiter around at the end gate. Anyway hope it helps. If you cant fly Ammar and still want to use a frig use a Hawk with medium extender or jaguar med extender or Enyo similar fit to Retibution I gave you :)
Ashlspiess Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.12 05:07:00 - [19] Edited by: Ashlspiess on 12/11/2007 05:09:14 I just did a level 4 Recon, 1st one with a merlin, 2nd one with a caldari shuttle, 3rd one with a drake. Even though this is Level 4 concepts could still be applied to lower levels. It's really all about the speed. For 1st mission had Merlin fitted with 2x overdrive injector IIs and 1MN AB II and flew to gate before they could even get me down to 50% shields. 2nd one I used a shuttle not caring about being blown up or not because NPCs don't podkill. I suppose you could do both 1 and 2 missions in a pod because of this? Anyway, my shuttle got to within 10km of gate, enemies spawned, by the time they locked mission completed, and there was a station right behind the gate so I was already warp aligned, made it out in a freakin shuttle even with no armor damage! 3rd one can definitely be the hardest. I used Drake fitted with 3x beta SPR, 1x overdrive II, 1x EM passive II, 1x therm passive II, 2x LSE II, 100MN AB II, also have 2x shield purger rigs. The 100MN AB let me fly thru the thing, maxed out at about 800 m/s, but stupid me didn't disable it soon enough so I bumped off the gate and got all spun around, took me a good 45 secs or so to finally activate gate because of horrid Drake agility, but I still only went down to 50% shields. Something else I have learned DO NOT do Recon in high population systems or if you have a crappy connection! I got lag locked in part 2 mission in Motsu and lost a Drake . _______________ It takes 42 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip the bird.
Khan Dhu Khan Dhu Research and Cloning	Posted - 2007.11.12 05:24:00 - [20] A shuttle is the best for the second mission of the L4 version of this now. The "mission completed" dialog takes more time than it did before, allowing the ships to get shots in, and I've been scrambled before on this mission as well...so don't use anything that you can't get an easy replacement for.

iudex Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.12 05:30:00 - [21] 3/3 lvl 4 works best for me in a Moa. Put a mix of large shield extenders and invuls (pref. tech 2 to be sure) and a good AB in meds, and something like 3 overdrive injectors and 1 nanofiber in lows, works fine and faster than with a bc/bs. As it works for lvl 4 i don't think you'd have problems with it in the lvl 2 version (in case you have skills for a cruiser, but i assume you are doing your lvl 2s in a cruiser anyways). My skills
Planktal Kenshao Industries	Posted - 2007.11.12 07:49:00 - [22] Edited by: Planktal on 12/11/2007 07:55:06 You guys want to do recon (3/3) easy? simple, just warp in and then warp right back out to somewhere else, wait 10 minutes or so, then warp back in and go to the gate to finish. When you first warp in it triggers the toxic waves, they go even if your not there, simple huh? course I run it with an omni tank on my Dominix, never get below 75% armor.
KillmAll187 Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.12 13:21:00 - [23] Edited by: KillmAll187 on 12/11/2007 13:23:45 Am I the only one that does parts 1 and 2 completely (Level IV)? There is insane bounties on part 1 at least. I just hate the damn ECM! Now that I think about it I just use my Domi fitted for Serpentis for all 3 parts. I don't even have an AB, and I only use a medium armor rep for part 3. I just afk my way to the gate.
Traybor Eve University	Posted - 2007.11.12 14:45:00 - [24] Originally by: KillmAll187 Am I the only one that does parts 1 and 2 completely (Level IV)? There is insane bounties on part 1 at least. I also kill all in part one, agreed on those bounties. I usually just run through part 2 though. And I do all three parts in a Domi without any difficulty.
Ulstan Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.12 15:27:00 - [25] Quote: Oh, and i haven¦t done the lvl 2 version, but if it¦s as bad as OP says, that does sound pretty crazy for such a mission, yes... Double sorry for your loss... The level 2 version 3rd stage can easily be done in a frigate. He's not getting instapopped on the level 2 version it does about 80 damage. The first two stages can be done in the customary shuttle.
Mos Superum Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.11.12 19:33:00 - [26] I've done the level 2 version of this mission series without ever getting a scratch. In the level 2 (part 2), I actually popped a BC as I hovered around the gate before jumping. I was in a BC myself and wasn't moving -- just wanted to see if it could be done. I never experienced any of the damage in part 3 that he/she mentions. Mos Superum
Red Dot'Clicking	Posted - 2007.11.12 20:04:00 - [27] Edited by: Red Dot''Clicking on 12/11/2007 20:05:33 How did you even manage the first part of the level 2 recon? I used a caracal got popped. Got a new one and pimped it out with 3 large shield extenders for 9k shields, turn on AB and try to run it. Still couldnt do it only just managed to warp out. I go through the gate and there are 8 cruisers/BC (i counted) and bunch of frigs waiting just the other side. Jammed as soon as I enter. I cant see how I can tank them long enough to get across.
Angel DeMorphis	Posted - 2007.11.12 20:49:00 - [28] Edited by: Angel DeMorphis on 12/11/2007 20:54:34 Originally by: Red Dot'Clicking Edited by: Red Dot''Clicking on 12/11/2007 20:05:33 How did you even manage the first part of the level 2 recon? I used a caracal got popped. Got a new one and pimped it out with 3 large shield extenders for 9k shields, turn on AB and try to run it. Still couldnt do it only just managed to warp out. I go through the gate and there are 8 cruisers/BC (i counted) and bunch of frigs waiting just the other side. Jammed as soon as I enter. I cant see how I can tank them long enough to get across. I see complaints about Recon (3 of 3) all the time (gotta be once a week, at least) and all I have to say is that you are not ready for Lvl 2 missions. Recon (3 of 3) has to be the easiest of them. You need to work on ship fittings and ship skills. Caracal should be shield tanking, so think Large Shield Extenders and Shield Amplifiers (or Hardeners, if you must). Shield skills will be things such as: Shield Operation, Shield Management. If you passive tank, there are 4 shield compensation skills (e.g. Thermic Shield Compensation). Fit an afterburner and a tank on your Caracal and you will sail through Recon (3 of 3). (Optionally: Work on Navigation and Afterburner skills, as these will help you get to the gate faster.) If you are having a problem with Recon (1 of 3) you perhaps need to work on some missile skills. Cruiser Lvl 3, at least. Missile Bombardment, Missile Projection for greater range. Missile Launcher Operation and Rapid Fire will help you fire your missiles faster (more DPS). Also get Standard Missiles skill up a couple Lvls and use Assault Missile Launchers (light missiles) for Lvl 2 missions, not Heavy Missiles. If you follow the above two paragraphs, and maybe add a bit of intelligent flying (though not too much should be needed) you should be able to handle Lvl 2 Recon very easily. EDIT: Would like to add to all new players in missions, shield resist is much more important than pure Shield HP. This is the reason that just 3 Large Shield Extenders didn't cut it for Recon (3 of 3). If an enemy is doing 100 EM damage to you, for example, and your ship has 0% EM resist, you will take 100 damage. If you have 50% EM resist, you will take 50 damage. Therefore, having 50% resist is equivalent to doubling your shield HP (as long as the damage type is in the type you have resist for). I don't know what you were trying to use for Recon, but the "pimped out" Caracal should have had on it 3x Large Shield Extender, 1x Magnetic Scattering Amplifier, 1x Heat Resistance Amplifier. It would be acceptable to go with an Invulnerability Field instead of the Heat Resistance Amplifier, I'm sure. Alternatively, drop a Large Shield Extender for a 10 MN Afterburner.
Red Dot'Clicking	Posted - 2007.11.12 21:48:00 - [29] Edited by: Red Dot''Clicking on 12/11/2007 21:49:07 Which is the setup I had. 5 arablast assualts (with bloodclaw) 3 named large extenders invuln field name 10mw AB Yea got the missiles skills, but it dont matter since am jammed non stop. Logs show it was 45s from first hit to me managing to warp out at half armor. Thats over 10k of damage. The large extenders make me the size of a battleship but was hoping they would last long enough. Not seen any other level 2 like it. the 8 cruisers/BC are right on top of you when you warp in so you cant get range and exchange heavy missiles either. The frigs are just an annoyance. Garistas are not EM damage so the shield should have held up well.
Mos Superum Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.11.12 22:28:00 - [30] I guess my question is -- are we talking about FIGHTING through Recon 1/3 and Recon 2/3? 'cause I don't fight through them. I just finish them and grab the agent reward. I guess I COULD try fighting through them now in a BC. I'd be concerned about trying to do that in a cruiser, but maybe I'm just being chicksh*t about doing that. Recon 3/3 shouldn't be hard at all -- if you're getting popped, the guy fussing at you about your fitting is right. I've done it in a Thorax and Brutix without a hitch from the evil gas cloud. Mos Superum

Angel DeMorphis	Posted - 2007.11.13 14:22:00 - [31] Edited by: Angel DeMorphis on 13/11/2007 14:23:04 Originally by: Red Dot'Clicking Edited by: Red Dot''Clicking on 12/11/2007 21:49:07 Which is the setup I had. 5 arablast assualts (with bloodclaw) 3 named large extenders invuln field name 10mw AB Yea got the missiles skills, but it dont matter since am jammed non stop. Logs show it was 45s from first hit to me managing to warp out at half armor. Thats over 10k of damage. The large extenders make me the size of a battleship but was hoping they would last long enough. Not seen any other level 2 like it. the 8 cruisers/BC are right on top of you when you warp in so you cant get range and exchange heavy missiles either. The frigs are just an annoyance. Garistas are not EM damage so the shield should have held up well. Yeah, don't fight any of the Recon missions if you're having trouble with them at all. ALso, drop a Large Shield Extender for a rat-specific amplifier. Remember, resistance is more important than HP. Keep telling yourself that. "Resistance is more important than HP. Resistance is more important than HP." You do reach a point where the amplifiers don't add as much to your resistance, so you put a Large Shield Extender or two on. Leave off the Arbalest Assaults. They add to your mass and make you slower. (Plus they're expensive to lose if you do get popped.) Do just as your agent tells you. Fly to the point you need to fly to, then leave. Mission over. (Some people feel they need to shoot everything all the time, but you don't. Always read your mission, or you'll have a heck of a time on the destroy the Repair Station mission and the Case of Kidnapping (10 of 10) where a dozen battleships pound you at the end when you should be warping out.) Easy as pie. If you're having trouble with the Recon missions, you may be flying them wrong.
explodinator	Posted - 2007.11.13 20:44:00 - [32] I don't know what you guys are on about. I have done this missions several times now in a rifter with an AB and a SAR II, no problem at all. It seriously takes some of you a tanked BC??
Angel DeMorphis	Posted - 2007.11.13 21:23:00 - [33] Originally by: explodinator I don't know what you guys are on about. I have done this missions several times now in a rifter with an AB and a SAR II, no problem at all. It seriously takes some of you a tanked BC?? First, what level? The damage you take gets higher as you get to higher levels. Second, some are talking about actually trying to fight their way through Recon 1 and/or 2, instead of just cruising through and leaving.
The Racketeer	Posted - 2007.11.16 01:13:00 - [34] just completed the lvl 2 version in a caracal with 2 large extenders, inv., damage control, and a shield booster (i didnt need the booster) my ship resists were from 38%(em) to 68%
OziStorm	Posted - 2007.11.16 09:06:00 - [35] I have done this just now in a Drake. Not sure if the setup is correct but I hardly had notice any damage cruising to the gate. My mids were: photo scatte II Inv Field II Shield Rech II Large shield ext II Dunno if i can imprve on this setup ready for L3s. DUNNOIF I CAN IMPORVE ONTE SETUP READY FOR l3S.,
Qui Shon	Posted - 2007.11.16 10:43:00 - [36] Originally by: explodinator I don't know what you guys are on about. I have done this missions several times now in a rifter with an AB and a SAR II, no problem at all. It seriously takes some of you a tanked BC?? Did you now? I somehow doubt you did. What's your setup? We're talking about the L4 here, for the most part at least. Btw, a 1300m/s MAR II thorax can tank the damage, just barely, I doubt your SAR Rifter can. A 1600m/s LShieldBooster Thorax can do it faster still. There's a couple EFT setups I've yet to try, because I haven't got the mission in a long time. All T2, ship and nav skills at 4. Vigil, 1600m/s, 5.3s align time, 61dps tank for the 22 seconds cap lasts, 2089hp Low: 2x OD, DCU Med: 1mn AB, Med shield Booster, EM amp HP may not be enough, cap may not be enough. Speed increase over Thorax is there, but not stellar. Punisher, 1800m/s, 20s align time, 53dps tank for 33seconds, 3350hp Low: 2xOD, DCU, RCU Med: Y-S8 AB, Med shield Booster Little bit better hp, but much slower acceleration then the Vigil. Now, you could put a SAR there too, get a little bit better tank. But then you'd want an EANM to go with it, and so your speed drops to under 1600, with very little speed increase over the thorax. Assault ships with oversized AB's could probably do it, but they are no faster then the Thorax. Not to mention Stabber can do it too, and is faster then Thorax. But I can't fly a Stabber.
L0st S0ul Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.16 12:49:00 - [37] I've just got given recon 1 of 3 (level 4)last night Completed it by killing everything. Will be doing 2 of 3 tonight - is it as hard or harder than 1 of 3 Obviously I will then do 3 of 3, would it be worth fitting the Drake with shield recharge II's in mids and SPR II's lows. Or just stick 2 x lse II, 2 x shield recharger II's adn 2 x IV field II's(or specific harnders) ? ----------------------------------------------- Come on you apes, you wanna live forever?
Summer's End Caldari Intel 7	Posted - 2007.11.17 09:39:00 - [38] I just lost a dual MAR thorax to the last bit.. I was taking 3-4 waves of 90-100 damage and tanking over 500 then suddenly it spiked to 498 damage was the last I saw but it ripped through 1800 pts of armor and 1500 pts of structure. WTF? When you can't run, you crawl, and when you can't crawl - when you can't do that...You find someone to carry you.
Ancy Denaries Caldari Isseras Manufacture	Posted - 2007.11.20 09:50:00 - [39] Was doing Lvl 3 Recon and wasn't aware you were supposed to breeze thru the first two parts. Took me ages to blow all of the rats out of the sky. Was flying a Drake, passive tank. Third part was dead easy. I didn't even see the damage on my shield, and it wasn't until I checked the combat log I saw I had been taking damage at all.
Qui Shon	Posted - 2007.11.20 10:35:00 - [40] Edited by: Qui Shon on 20/11/2007 10:36:52 Originally by: Summer's End I just lost a dual MAR thorax to the last bit.. I was taking 3-4 waves of 90-100 damage and tanking over 500 then suddenly it spiked to 498 damage was the last I saw but it ripped through 1800 pts of armor and 1500 pts of structure. WTF? That's a bit odd. Hope you're not blaming me on account of suggesting the Thorax earlier I once lost a Rax there by initiating warp at the gate while still travelling at 600+m/s. It just kept aligning, for what seemed like forever, which I can understand given I was still going a bit too fast. But the odd bit is it would not respond to repeated crtl+spacebar commands. So after a bit it just blew up. Still, done it successfully in a Rax many times. Originally by: Ancy Denaries Was doing Lvl 3 Recon... I thought there was only L2 and L4 version.

Venestra	Posted - 2008.01.03 10:11:00 - [41] Originally by: Gwynn Worvan Edited by: Gwynn Worvan on 09/11/2007 22:38:42 Also, it does say in the mission text "You probably want to use a heavily tanked battleship" or some such... "Mission briefing The next area you'll be scouting is known to be filled with hazardous gas clouds and radioactive materials. It used to be a waste dump for the Amarr Empire, but it also contains no mineral wealth at all so it's not a popular attraction for gold diggers fortunately. I know there is still an acceleration gate inside the area and I want you to make sure it's still functioning and doesn't send you straight into a deadly cloud. It's a dangerous job, but I'm not paying you for garbage hauling now am I. Get to it and report back to me with your findings!" Thats the mission text from L2. "It's a dangerous job" doesn't quite cover that you will randomly blow up in 15 seconds. I went in in my new fully kitted out Omen cruiser (which I ought to be able to do L2 missions in), and despite my shield still being at about 25% and only minor damage to my armour i just got the message "Your ship goes out of control" and BOOM. Stupid, pointless, fun-sucking mission
Neit Gellen	Posted - 2008.01.03 19:08:00 - [42] All lvl 2 missions can be done in a Thrasher, including the recon series. Just use an afterburner and small shield booster II for recon 3/3 and burn directly at the gate.
machiavellianist Caldari D'Arcy Corp	Posted - 2008.01.03 19:14:00 - [43] Lol, owned by a cloud. TBH, this mission is not hard, it really isnt. My advice you all you people that struggle with it, and any other mission, try reading up on any mission that you dont know before you attempt it. This way you will know exactly what to expect and can prepare appropriately.
Nekopyat	Posted - 2008.01.03 21:46:00 - [44] Originally by: Venestra I went in in my new fully kitted out Omen cruiser (which I ought to be able to do L2 missions in), and despite my shield still being at about 25% and only minor damage to my armour i just got the message "Your ship goes out of control" and BOOM. Stupid, pointless, fun-sucking mission The waves eventually go through a quick ramp where they go from a few hundred points of damage to several thousand. So you probably got hit by one of the 'you should be gone by now' waves... which it tries to give you a warning about first. This is actually one of the better missions IMHO... it teaches that stubborn 'wait and kill' methods will not always work and no matter how bad ass you are, there are some fights you simply should run away from. Learn to run, and this L2 mission can easily be done in a T1 frigate.
Not4me	Posted - 2008.01.03 23:01:00 - [45] Im rather new so dont got the good skills yet. But my L2 mission ship is a caracal. I almost got killed a few times, so i gave up killing those ratts. As mission text stated you dont need to kill the ratts. So instead i jumped in a 25k isk Trasher and a T1 AB. Made it to gate and warped to next pocket with 50% damaged armor. Was kind of annoyed i didnt do this right away :\
Melme Rahka Minmatar Vulcan Foundry	Posted - 2008.01.04 08:40:00 - [46] Originally by: Neit Gellen All lvl 2 missions can be done in a Thrasher, including the recon series. Once I spent 3 hours on Human Cattle 4/5, I switched to cruisers. Trasher is just not good enough. I did Recon all parts with Rupture, and although I armour tanked, I actually lost shields only when I tried to fight in 2/3. In 1/3 AB got me enough range so that the rats (11 cruisers and 3 destroyers for me, might be wrong though :)) could barely hit me. I killed the destroyers with arty turrets at 45 km range (alpha strike with 4 turrets), but since I had like 3 seconds of target every minute due to the sensor dampening cruiser in the group, I decided to just run the the gate. In 3/3 I managed to get out with 40ish shield. My advice is, get AB and cruiser (cloud starts at 80 and increases by 10 every time it damages you, ignoring resistances) and just run.
marie claude	Posted - 2008.01.04 23:33:00 - [47] hehe on part 1 and 2 i use a hyped up atron 2 t2 overdrives and a t2 ab and a micro cap injector.8800 mps run to the gate warp out b4 the rats can target. part 3 run in my raven with a t2 large extender 4 t2 invuls and a large t2 rep never get below 75% shield. easy money do all 3 in 15-20 min tops
Qui Shon	Posted - 2008.01.05 13:19:00 - [48] Originally by: marie claude hehe on part 1 and 2 i use a hyped up atron 2 t2 overdrives and a t2 ab and a micro cap injector.8800 mps run to the gate warp out b4 the rats can target. part 3 run in my raven with a t2 large extender 4 t2 invuls and a large t2 rep never get below 75% shield. easy money do all 3 in 15-20 min tops A 2x OD, T2 AB Atron does not go 8800 m/s, nor does it need a cap injector. You also cannot fit a T2 10mn AB on it without 2x mapc, and even then without rigs you can't fit your injector. And even if you could, it still wouldn't go 8800m/s.
Kaarii	Posted - 2008.01.05 15:13:00 - [49] I did the level 2 version yesterday in my active tanked jaguar... and hardly needed the booster. Is the OP sure it wasn't level 3?
MenanceWhite	Posted - 2008.01.05 16:56:00 - [50] Edited by: MenanceWhite on 05/01/2008 16:57:10 I've both done the amarrlv2 one and the caldari lv2 one, both in a destroyer with 1SAR, some nanofiber and an oversized AB. No problems on both (just remember to deactivate the ab before using the last warp) and both gave more reward than what the op wrote. Might be some bug, or the op is whiney and overdoing it.

Endymnion	Posted - 2008.01.06 02:11:00 - [51] I just did this mission on lvl 4(my first level 4s BTW) and had no trouble. Was in a slow as heck Apoc, dual LARs and of course hardeners. Seeing as how I was so slow, the gas cloud had actually stabilized before I finished it. So I warped out with 20% shield or something. Very easy.
Lone Solo Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.01.12 23:26:00 - [52] Just did the missions for a lev 2 agent. In my opinion a fun trio of missions that cost me a shuttle and an executioner, well worth it tho. First and second are easy even in a shuttle as you really dont have to fight, lost my shuttle here as I first tried to fight with the rats and thus when I tried to simply run past I didnt make it with a caldari shuttle (minmatar one worked fine tho). The executioner was lost in 3 of 3. I started out with the Minnie shuttle but took a great deal of dam so I figured an executioner with an AB should do it. I hit 1000m/s and pop I was in my pod. I really hope CCP have put in ship velocity in the dam calculation, that would be fun. Going there in a cruiser however and I barely got scratched. On an interesting sidenote however, it seems the damage gets progressivelly higher as you spend more time in the cloud, I dont know if this is a fact but I got hit with more and more damage for each additional hit. Started out at 30 and progressed to 80 if this increased dam is true then I must say its a great idea :)
Dracon Zethera Gallente Nexus Analytics Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.13 02:39:00 - [53] I was able to get through the cloud in my vexor.
Shi Hearthbreaker Amarr Medicean Rebellion	Posted - 2008.01.13 09:34:00 - [54] Level 4 Recon 3of3 works this way. Every 20 Seconds you get a wave that deals an increse of damage, on the last final wave 2000 DMG on Each Resistance. So assuming you have 80% resist on EM/thermic/kinetic/explosive, you get 400+400+400+400 dmg in a second on the last wave. I believe the only ships that can have a deal with a pretty safe fly are BC-BS and prolly HAC (with a plate/extender equipped).
Katsuo Achura	Posted - 2008.01.14 03:12:00 - [55] Number one rule in combat in this game and real life is, complete your mission as fast as possible with as little damage as possible. Recon (1 of 3) says don't fight the rats just jump the the gate. you get paid the same. I did it in a shuttle they could hardly hit me but they did steal all my cap. (2 of 3) same thing, fly to gate, if they bother you jump. I did it in my shuttle was in warp before they could lock. got paid the same.(3 of 3)LMAO shuttle lasted half way to the gate then poof. jumped out, fit my Ferox with high EM resistance. got maybe 20% damage then went home. oh and 2000 isk insurance for the shuttle that I built. lol
Wolf Koch	Posted - 2008.01.14 07:22:00 - [56] Jumped at the L2 variant without reading the description in my Vexor. After getting blown up once and then trying to make a run for it multiple times in my shuttle, I've called my corpmates for help. We were doing 9-11 damage, but cleared it without further loss. I did 2/3 and 3/3 both in an Incursus fitted with two overdrives and AB. ______________________ I flee from pirates in shuttles.
Megan Ladimore	Posted - 2008.01.28 03:44:00 - [57] [ 2008.01.28 02:59:54 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Toxic Cloud Environment hits you, doing 448.9 damage. [ 2008.01.28 02:59:54 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Toxic Cloud Environment hits you, doing 1080.0 damage. [ 2008.01.28 02:59:54 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Toxic Cloud Environment hits you, doing 1077.4 damage. level 2 recon (3 of 3) This will be the last mission I ever attempt.
Sandeep Raptus Regaliter Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.01.28 04:20:00 - [58] Originally by: Megan Ladimore [ 2008.01.28 02:59:54 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Toxic Cloud Environment hits you, doing 448.9 damage. [ 2008.01.28 02:59:54 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Toxic Cloud Environment hits you, doing 1080.0 damage. [ 2008.01.28 02:59:54 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Toxic Cloud Environment hits you, doing 1077.4 damage. level 2 recon (3 of 3) This will be the last mission I ever attempt. Looks like you have a damage type hole. Omni tank is recommended in part 3. Replace all damage mods if you need more slots. -----
Megan Ladimore	Posted - 2008.01.28 04:45:00 - [59] This is my first days doing level twos. I needed a friend to help me with my first ever level 2 mission, recon part 1 (I know I can just run the gauntlet now but didn't at the time). The second one wasn't so bad, and then I get this mission that without warning and with a 26k isk reward throws an instant spike of almost 3k damage at me. I can do level ones for the same isk, and not have my vexor one shotted while at almost full armor and full structure. I didn't realize the game put in little surprises like this as traps to destroy the livelyhoods of new players, but lesson learned.


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