Originally by: CCP kieron

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Originally by: Samuel Freedom

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I think its good that certain races at good at some aspects of the game and bad at others it would be a bit boring if all the races were equally good at everything.

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Originally by: Ackaroth

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Originally by: Samuel Freedom

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I think its good that certain races at good at some aspects of the game and bad at others it would be a bit boring if all the races were equally good at everything.

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Agreed.

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Originally by: Tarron Sarek

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Edited by: Tarron Sarek on 22/06/2007 10:13:03

Shin Mao, the Caracal isn't slow, but it can't fit a full rack of HAM's easily. That'S a bit of a problem.

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Originally by: Tarron Sarek

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Edited by: Tarron Sarek on 22/06/2007 10:58:45

@Shin: Well if Caldari ships were that bad and really needed a boost, they wouldn't be so overpowered in PvE.
I mean, you actually also need some stats for PvE. And obviously they have 'em.
It's not like painting "Caldari Navy" on your ship makes rats go pop.

I don't see that big of a problem. Perhaps a bit more dmg, HAM's could provide that. Perhaps just some fresh out of the box thinking.

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Originally by: Viktor Rasmussen

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We all have to train our skills for the desired traget. If I want to run in missions like a charm I have to skill caldari, if I want to go into pvp I should skill gunnery and if I want to start with science I have to skill some other stuff..

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1. Rebalance missiles by drawing inspiration from the way that drones work. Make missiles a secondary damage type, like drones.


2. Drone boats have fewer high slots. They get bonuses to drones and larger drone bays to compensate for this.


3. Make missile boats the same as drone boats. This would require removing missile launchers from high slot positions. In return, some ships would be given a "missile bay" in the same way that some ships get a "drone bay."


4. Missile boats, like the Raven, would have fewer high slots than they do now (in the same way that the Dominix has fewer high slots).


5. Different ships would have different sized "missile bays" allowing them to fit bigger launchers or more launchers. Launchers would have fixed sizes (kind of like light, medium and heavy drones) that take space from the missile bay based on their size.


6. Missile launchers would now install in the missile bay completely independently of PG and CPU fitting constraints. Again, this is like drones that have no such fitting constraints.


7. Missiles would still need ammo - it still takes up space in the cargo hold.


8. A ship like the Caracal might have an unusually large missile bay for a cruiser - in the same way that a Vexor has an unusually large drone bay. The Caracal would receive bonuses to missiles, similar to a drone boat getting bonuses to drones.


9. This would mean that there are 3 general types of ships in the game. 1) Gun-boats - ships that excel at using turret weapons and have the bonuses to match. 2) Drone-boats - ships that have weak to moderate turret capabilities but excel at drone usage, and 3) missile boats - ships with similar turret capabilities to drone boats but with exceptional missile capabilities.

Originally by: Riven Starkill

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...LOOONG POST....

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Originally by: Riven Starkill

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The post by Neuromandis can be found here.

It is a long post, so I will try to summarize:

1. Rebalance missiles by drawing inspiration from the way that drones work. Make missiles a secondary damage type, like drones.


2. Drone boats have fewer high slots. They get bonuses to drones and larger drone bays to compensate for this.


3. Make missile boats the same as drone boats. This would require removing missile launchers from high slot positions. In return, some ships would be given a "missile bay" in the same way that some ships get a "drone bay."


4. Missile boats, like the Raven, would have fewer high slots than they do now (in the same way that the Dominix has fewer high slots).


5. Different ships would have different sized "missile bays" allowing them to fit bigger launchers or more launchers. Launchers would have fixed sizes (kind of like light, medium and heavy drones) that take space from the missile bay based on their size.


6. Missile launchers would now install in the missile bay completely independently of PG and CPU fitting constraints. Again, this is like drones that have no such fitting constraints.


7. Missiles would still need ammo - it still takes up space in the cargo hold.


8. A ship like the Caracal might have an unusually large missile bay for a cruiser - in the same way that a Vexor has an unusually large drone bay. The Caracal would receive bonuses to missiles, similar to a drone boat getting bonuses to drones.


9. This would mean that there are 3 general types of ships in the game. 1) Gun-boats - ships that excel at using turret weapons and have the bonuses to match. 2) Drone-boats - ships that have weak to moderate turret capabilities but excel at drone usage, and 3) missile boats - ships with similar turret capabilities to drone boats but with exceptional missile capabilities.

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Maybe a way to make it possible for them to lose lock might balance it a bit...

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Originally by: Nisse Owned

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Bah, sure that would nerf caldari on PvE... but why not make the missiles explosion radius and explosion velocity affected by tracking disruptor aswell... cause i heard that was a problem that crippled any turretship on level 4's
Still, I hate the fact that missiles can't lose lock when a target is too small and turns fast, watching rage torps chase a inty is hilarious
Maybe a way to make it possible for them to lose lock might balance it a bit... cause it is a problem in my opinion that 3 ravens can smash a inty to pieces regardless of range using cruise missiles, while a gunboat would have to either get 100+km away, or web like hell to even hit.

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Originally by: Murpie

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However... Please realize that caldari can't be on top of ALL sections on eve. I'm happy that caldari isn't that pvp good as the others are...

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