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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.06.25 17:26:00 -
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As it stands, it takes a great deal of effort to get yourself to a -10 security status in EVE. To reverse this, it should be really really painful for the pirate in question.
Under normal conditions, the security status loss do to quote-unquote normal piracy (i.e. sans podding) is negligible and can easily be earned back through one or two ratting runs through a good 0.0 asteroid belt.
However, podding needs to have some serious ramifications for the pirate in question; the pilot could easily lose a billion ISK of implants, where the pirate can just grind for maybe a day (maybe) and be allowed to fly around high sec again.
No more I say, increase the uphill difficulty of security status grinding, make it actually painful for pirates to be gun-ho and just pew pew everything with no real consequence to their action.
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T'Renn
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS....
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.25 17:32:00 -
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Oh hey you don't know what you're talking about.
Awesome.
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Agent Li
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Posted - 2007.06.25 17:43:00 -
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People with a really low security status (-10) don't usually want to get it back up. That's why they have an alt.
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mortitia sith
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.25 17:44:00 -
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and podding gives a -12.5 pct last time i checked on standing
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Kather
Evil Proctologists
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Posted - 2007.06.25 17:45:00 -
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ermm, -10 is easy to get to, it took me a couple of days.
getting back up is a real uphill slog already, it doesnt need to get any harder
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Dread Operative
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.25 17:50:00 -
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Re: Title of the thread
It already is.
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Elles D
Caldari
Akuin Akka
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Posted - 2007.06.25 17:51:00 -
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 Originally by: Derovius Vaden
As it stands, it takes a great deal of effort to get yourself to a -10 security status in EVE. To reverse this, it should be really really painful for the pirate in question.
Under normal conditions, the security status loss do to quote-unquote normal piracy (i.e. sans podding) is negligible and can easily be earned back through one or two ratting runs through a good 0.0 asteroid belt.
However, podding needs to have some serious ramifications for the pirate in question; the pilot could easily lose a billion ISK of implants, where the pirate can just grind for maybe a day (maybe) and be allowed to fly around high sec again.
No more I say, increase the uphill difficulty of security status grinding, make it actually painful for pirates to be gun-ho and just pew pew everything with no real consequence to their action.
Pod this man, repeatedly.
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Enjackah
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2007.06.25 17:57:00 -
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OP must have smoked a massive ball of dope before posting. It take a ridiculously long time ratting before you can get your sec back up enough to fly into 1.0 once your -10.
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Purgatori
Minmatar
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.25 17:58:00 -
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2 days to get to -10(1 with smartbombs)
getting back to 0.0 takes many many days as it is...
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Tunnas
Unrepentant Inc
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Posted - 2007.06.25 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
As it stands, it takes a great deal of effort to get yourself to a -10 security status in EVE. To reverse this, it should be really really painful for the pirate in question.
Under normal conditions, the security status loss do to quote-unquote normal piracy (i.e. sans podding) is negligible and can easily be earned back through one or two ratting runs through a good 0.0 asteroid belt.
However, podding needs to have some serious ramifications for the pirate in question; the pilot could easily lose a billion ISK of implants, where the pirate can just grind for maybe a day (maybe) and be allowed to fly around high sec again.
No more I say, increase the uphill difficulty of security status grinding, make it actually painful for pirates to be gun-ho and just pew pew everything with no real consequence to their action.
Clearly you have no idea what your talking about...
it might be easy for you being a person who likes to rat, but i get a lump in my throat and starts barfing every time i see someone shooting at rat, i dispise you.
Shooting a pod gives you a -12.5% i would say that's pretty harse.
And yeah pod this guy repeatedly.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.06.25 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tunnas
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
As it stands, it takes a great deal of effort to get yourself to a -10 security status in EVE. To reverse this, it should be really really painful for the pirate in question.
Under normal conditions, the security status loss do to quote-unquote normal piracy (i.e. sans podding) is negligible and can easily be earned back through one or two ratting runs through a good 0.0 asteroid belt.
However, podding needs to have some serious ramifications for the pirate in question; the pilot could easily lose a billion ISK of implants, where the pirate can just grind for maybe a day (maybe) and be allowed to fly around high sec again.
No more I say, increase the uphill difficulty of security status grinding, make it actually painful for pirates to be gun-ho and just pew pew everything with no real consequence to their action.
Clearly you have no idea what your talking about...
it might be easy for you being a person who likes to rat, but i get a lump in my throat and starts barfing every time i see someone shooting at rat, i dispise you.
Shooting a pod gives you a -12.5% i would say that's pretty harse.
And yeah pod this guy repeatedly.
You're lucky, it should be instant -10 for murdering another citizen in Empire space.
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LoganFire
Amarr
Quam Singulari
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.25 18:26:00 -
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bog off
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PCaBoo
Dirt Nap Squad
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.25 18:32:00 -
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only took me 4 hours to get to -9.9xxxx =\
I think I made it to full -10. on my 2nd day.
It took me 3 months of semi-consistent ratting to get back to -2.3 (where I still am :()
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.06.25 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: PCaBoo
only took me 4 hours to get to -9.9xxxx =\
I think I made it to full -10. on my 2nd day.
It took me 3 months of semi-consistent ratting to get back to -2.3 (where I still am :()
No one cares, you're FREGE.
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Thor Xian
EarthForce
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.06.25 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Elles D
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
As it stands, it takes a great deal of effort to get yourself to a -10 security status in EVE. To reverse this, it should be really really painful for the pirate in question.
Under normal conditions, the security status loss do to quote-unquote normal piracy (i.e. sans podding) is negligible and can easily be earned back through one or two ratting runs through a good 0.0 asteroid belt.
However, podding needs to have some serious ramifications for the pirate in question; the pilot could easily lose a billion ISK of implants, where the pirate can just grind for maybe a day (maybe) and be allowed to fly around high sec again.
No more I say, increase the uphill difficulty of security status grinding, make it actually painful for pirates to be gun-ho and just pew pew everything with no real consequence to their action.
Pod this man, repeatedly.
He rerolls this very character weekly. Podding him would just leave you with identically name characters from every bloodline.
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milinkoee
Bastage Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.06.25 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
it should be instant -10 for murdering another citizen in Empire space.
/signed
It took me almost a whole evening to get to -10. Then I accidentally shot a gate rat and totally screwed up my sec rating. 
BTW, can I have some of what you are smoking?
Bastage, Inc.
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Darcy Killar
Gallente
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.25 18:51:00 -
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Edited by: Darcy Killar on 25/06/2007 18:50:30
Back to your usual flame bait I see? Obviously (as always) you havenĘt the slightest idea what you are talking about. Honestly you would do better if your next thread was titled ōFlame me!ö and read something like this:
I love BoB! I hate pirates! Let us Probe clocked ships! I think the scanner should work like a free insta probe that finds anyone! Nerf Gallente! I think skills should take + as long to train because I am a noob and have non and the older players all have more then me! I am a better PvPer then all of you! Real pirates are in 0.0. You all are lame! I think pirates should be able to fly in high sec but are red flashy to everyone and everyone can kill them! I think you shouldnĘt be able to PvP in this game, it ruins my day! Remove high sec wars! High sec is supposed to be a safe place for all of us! Gate campers arenĘt pirates!...ectąectąectą
Or of course you could try to think of something useful to say, this is the preferable option.
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Lady Aevis
Leela's Lamas
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Posted - 2007.06.25 18:53:00 -
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"back through one or two ratting runs through a good 0.0 asteroid belt."
Now honestly , how many pirate corps do you think have access to good 0.0 ratting systems?
Most of them are taken , and most pirates end up ratting in a system in syndicate with a true sec status of -0.01 or something and loads of Serpentis Baron ( 500.000 ISK bounty ) spawns, or even worse with the permanent risk of getting blown up by a huge blob of ravens or water buffalos 
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milinkoee
Bastage Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.06.25 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Darcy Killar
Edited by: Darcy Killar on 25/06/2007 18:50:30
Back to your usual flame bait I see? Obviously (as always) you havenĘt the slightest idea what you are talking about. Honestly you would do better if your next thread was titled ōFlame me!ö and read something like this:
I love BoB! I hate pirates! Let us Probe clocked ships! I think the scanner should work like a free insta probe that finds anyone! Nerf Gallente! I think skills should take + as long to train because I am a noob and have non and the older players all have more then me! I am a better PvPer then all of you! Real pirates are in 0.0. You all are lame! I think pirates should be able to fly in high sec but are red flashy to everyone and everyone can kill them! I think you shouldnĘt be able to PvP in this game, it ruins my day! Remove high sec wars! High sec is supposed to be a safe place for all of us! Gate campers arenĘt pirates!...ectąectąectą
Or of course you could try to think of something useful to say, this is the preferable option.
lol...bet he is a Mac user too. <snicker>
Bastage, Inc.
Worst Pirates Ever!!! |
Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.06.25 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Aevis
"back through one or two ratting runs through a good 0.0 asteroid belt."
Now honestly , how many pirate corps do you think have access to good 0.0 ratting systems?
Most of them are taken , and most pirates end up ratting in a system in syndicate with a true sec status of -0.01 or something and loads of Serpentis Baron ( 500.000 ISK bounty ) spawns, or even worse with the permanent risk of getting blown up by a huge blob of ravens or water buffalos
Those water buffalo kick ass. 
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Millajov
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Posted - 2007.06.25 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Darcy Killar
Edited by: Darcy Killar on 25/06/2007 18:50:30
Back to your usual flame bait I see? Obviously (as always) you havenĘt the slightest idea what you are talking about. Honestly you would do better if your next thread was titled ōFlame me!ö and read something like this:
I love BoB! I hate pirates! Let us Probe clocked ships! I think the scanner should work like a free insta probe that finds anyone! Nerf Gallente! I think skills should take + as long to train because I am a noob and have non and the older players all have more then me! I am a better PvPer then all of you! Real pirates are in 0.0. You all are lame! I think pirates should be able to fly in high sec but are red flashy to everyone and everyone can kill them! I think you shouldnĘt be able to PvP in this game, it ruins my day! Remove high sec wars! High sec is supposed to be a safe place for all of us! Gate campers arenĘt pirates!...ectąectąectą
Or of course you could try to think of something useful to say, this is the preferable option.
Please, PLEASE tell me I can quote the crap out of this if I give you credit^^
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Enjackah
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2007.06.25 19:08:00 -
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Edited by: Enjackah on 25/06/2007 19:07:16
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
As it stands, it takes a great deal of effort to get yourself to a -10 security status in EVE. To reverse this, it should be really really painful for the pirate in question.
Under normal conditions, the security status loss do to quote-unquote normal piracy (i.e. sans podding) is negligible and can easily be earned back through one or two ratting runs through a good 0.0 asteroid belt.
However, podding needs to have some serious ramifications for the pirate in question; the pilot could easily lose a billion ISK of implants, where the pirate can just grind for maybe a day (maybe) and be allowed to fly around high sec again.
No more I say, increase the uphill difficulty of security status grinding, make it actually painful for pirates to be gun-ho and just pew pew everything with no real consequence to their action.
Holy **** man, your getting pwnd in this thread.
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sbreach
Gallente
PezCo - Ice Services
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Posted - 2007.06.25 19:16:00 -
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The current punishment is enough,
People who want -10 can easily reach it, and those who do not wish to use alts for logistics will slave a day or two ratting, you can make -10 in a day or more if you try really really hard, i guess you could even use your own alt to make -10.
The standing loss and kill rights is usually enough, since those who wish to be able to stay in empire by not having a -5 sec status will likely to be around, and those who are at -10 have in no inkling in coming back into hi sec empire so kill rights and standing loss are useless.
A lot of of pirates absolutely hate ratting, so a day or 2 ratting if they need high sec is good enough punishment.
Risk vs Reward, the pirate has to put his ship and pod on the line to get your pod and ship. And don't forget sec loss happens to anti pie too who will pod for fun and profit, you want anti pie's to suffer too for pew pewing pirates?
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.06.25 19:23:00 -
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Hard to lose security status? 
That's the funniest thing I've read all day.
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Big Al
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.25 19:28:00 -
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NPCing to fix sec status hurts the brain enough as it is.
People who ruthlessly pod you are probably not looking to fix their sec status.
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T'Renn
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS....
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.25 19:43:00 -
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Yeah I'm currently in the process in bearing up from my -10. I stopped screwing with it when it was at about -9.0 for a while because ratting is REALLY BORING. Now I'm back at it. It's a long process but right now I'm -5.8. I can't wait until I'm positive sec. I'm never going to freaking rat again in my life. 
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Darcy Killar
Gallente
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.25 20:00:00 -
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Edited by: Darcy Killar on 25/06/2007 19:59:43
Originally by: T'Renn
Yeah I'm currently in the process in bearing up from my -10. I stopped screwing with it when it was at about -9.0 for a while because ratting is REALLY BORING. Now I'm back at it. It's a long process but right now I'm -5.8. I can't wait until I'm positive sec. I'm never going to freaking rat again in my life.
...you know you will be back 
Originally by: Millajov
Please, PLEASE tell me I can quote the crap out of this if I give you credit^^
Of course 
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Denton Frost
Amarr
KSI
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Posted - 2007.06.25 20:03:00 -
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OP = no clue
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.25 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
As it stands, it takes a great deal of effort to get yourself to a -10 security status in EVE. To reverse this, it should be really really painful for the pirate in question.
Under normal conditions, the security status loss do to quote-unquote normal piracy (i.e. sans podding) is negligible and can easily be earned back through one or two ratting runs through a good 0.0 asteroid belt.
However, podding needs to have some serious ramifications for the pirate in question; the pilot could easily lose a billion ISK of implants, where the pirate can just grind for maybe a day (maybe) and be allowed to fly around high sec again.
No more I say, increase the uphill difficulty of security status grinding, make it actually painful for pirates to be gun-ho and just pew pew everything with no real consequence to their action.
I'll sell you a clue!! 5 dolla!
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Trebor Notlimah
Gallente
Gunfleet Logistics
Rogue Method Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.25 20:28:00 -
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Thanks for the post Derovius Vaden,
You are now perma-labeled as an idiot with no idea of what hes talking about. If I ever see you, I'll be sure to pod you.
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