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Gunship
Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.25 18:09:00 -
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If you could only NAP one Corp or Alliance, who & how would that effect eve?
One further rule, only way to set someone to negative standing should be on a personal level, max 10 (see my own reply for why this would be a good idea).
1) Who would you set to blue and why?
2) If CCP changed the game and a standing set took 24hours or perhaps even 5 days to implement, so not easily abused, how would that change the game?
Ill go firstà
First, I would properly select our neighbour alliance, since they are close to us and old friends.
Second I think it would make eve more FUN, yes written in caps since that why I play. If I look at example the battles in S-E of late we have a typical example of 8+ alliances on each side classing resulting in endless hours on TS building up fleets only to have the outcome dictated largely by lag. (btw. This in not a flame, I fully respect our enemies and there skill/resolve). Now calling targets in a battle would become a bit of a nightmare for both sides if 6+ of your ôfriendsö showed up neutral. This should limit the engagements to a 2v2, limit the numbers and limit the use of POSes since the system owner would have to take an active part in most cases at least. Hopefully this would also help to lead away from the whole ôThe Allianceö versus ôThe Coalitionö or 5v1 scenarios. Expectantly it would be trickier to have ôpetö corps using your 0.0 space and you actually would have to make a choice about having them as part of your alliance or not. Yes they might not look good on your kill-board, unless you make them your friends and work together! à if they are worth ità
Ultimate I hope if the above was reality it would result in more regional engagements of a lesser size and in return less lag, limit the bandwagons and for sure stop the NAP fests. It would not stop you have a word of mouth agreement with others, but it likely to limit cross-border traffic. ItÆs not unreasonable to assume that some alliances may merge as a result of such a change and take away some of the effect, but that might not be a bad thing, we have 4 empires (5 with Jove), but how many alliances?
One more question, just for fun, do you think a wipe of the standings database would create more or less space than when they deleted the instant jump bookmarks?
Please stay on topic and I did post with my main 
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Templer Relleg
Endgame.
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Posted - 2007.06.25 18:13:00 -
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Edited by: Templer Relleg on 25/06/2007 18:13:12 IF i had to nap anybody(I wouldnt really want to), i think that should be 0utbreak, because they know what they do. No big drama all over the board. They arent pets. Just sheer coolness.
2) I think it should take a week. Standings is standings. You shouldnt just be able to change your standings as you like.
Wow. And im first in a gunship thread  
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Entilzah Valen
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.06.25 18:18:00 -
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Man, I saw this when it was just the OP and knew exactly what we were in for.
/me buries face in hands and gasps for air. 
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2007.06.25 18:21:00 -
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I totaly agree with Gunship...
Good points and man it would be fun to see the reaction if this was implimented =) _______________________________________________ Beer, Eve and no shaved babes!!! is that oki then? My slogans always gets nerfed \o/ Oh a new one: Beer, eve and play neekid!! |

SpaceLola
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Posted - 2007.06.25 18:22:00 -
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None 
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Svetlanna
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.06.25 18:23:00 -
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None 
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.25 18:23:00 -
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Speaking merely as a member of a corp that is in Morsus Mihi, I would NAP/ally with RAZOR. They have been our closest friends and we have stood by each other through the good and the bad.
Granted...this duo isn't going to "win EVE," but that isn't all that matters.
Now, loyalties aside, I think it would be a blast to be NAP'ed/allied with the likes of Outbreak or MC. The first-hand experience of flying with them is something that holds interest for me as an individual pilot in this game. Flying against them has certainly been a notable experience. 
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Wayward Hooligan
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.25 18:53:00 -
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Edited by: Wayward Hooligan on 25/06/2007 18:52:44 Ah NVM.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.06.25 18:59:00 -
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I would just get everyone in one big gang and not show gang members on overview
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.06.25 19:02:00 -
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I would NAP that 0utbreak Alliance.
Oh wait... -------------------------------------
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Mrrzah
Amarr Word of Blake
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Posted - 2007.06.25 19:10:00 -
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I'm not sure about this. A big part of eve's success is it's sandbox gameplay. Imposing more or less artificial limits on standings be it friends or enemies would just take away from this. I mean surely you can't come up with a viable reason why one can only have so many friends.. or enemies.
I don't think it would encourage diversity and localized conflicts as you do, but sooner or later we'd probably see a few huge alliances dominate.. smal fish have no way to make friends, (who'd spend one of their few "friend slots" on an insignificant entitie?) and will sooner or later be evicted.
Putting in a timer for standings would be pretty tricky as well. Maybe if standings were mutual without the possibility of human error, wich is pretty unrealistic in itself. Having to wait a few days to set someone red after you realize you got set to red yourself would be BAD.
PS. Do people only read the subject on these forums? 
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Erfnam
Time Cube Syndicate Legionnaire Services Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.06.25 19:10:00 -
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Edited by: Erfnam on 25/06/2007 19:09:26 nvm - Recruiting | Capital Ships Sales | Covetors Delivered - Bulk/Package/BYOM
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.06.25 20:03:00 -
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MC or outbreak ? Outbreak or MC ?
Whatever. One big, to have something to shoot at. -----
History is made by whinners
Originally by: DB Preacher (...) Ignore what the coalition muppets are saying on their forums (...)
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Ione Hunt
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.06.25 20:06:00 -
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1) MGRL...so I can sleep safely on my belly without having to fear an attack of Backdoor Bandit. Sure, the other corps/alliances can blow up my ship, but BB can do a lot worse 
2) Meh, that would take some diversity from the game... _______________
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Black Torment
Caldari Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2007.06.25 20:14:00 -
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Burn Eden, just because they'd hate it more than anyone else.
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Hamatitio
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.06.25 20:21:00 -
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MC!
Outbreak MC power blob for the win!
I agree with entilzah, if this topic were real we'd have far too many blues ;o
Hijack this |

Death Merchant
InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.06.25 21:08:00 -
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Concord
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Worry
Grief Junkies
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Posted - 2007.06.25 21:09:00 -
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Caldari Provisions
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Mei Han
Gallente Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.25 21:17:00 -
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There are already ways around it even if you could nap only one alliance. Moreover the lag was mutual yesterday and the day before that. The first time we were affected as we jumped, the second time it was you.
Also i do not think that anything like that should be implimented just because the server cannot support 300 ppl fight. I mean if the battles must be 10vs10 they should beter make eve single player game.
Continuing, considering the timezones and the avaluability of players an 1 alliance vs 1 alliance or eve 2vs2 would produce such a rediculous firepower that the towers and thier guns would be indestructable.
To answere your Question now. If i was in possition to Nap or ally only one alliance, that alliance would be MM. In my short time in 0.0 i got to like those guys more.
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djNME
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.25 21:32:00 -
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All this talk about Nap's is not good while I'm at work tbh. 
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slothe
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.06.25 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: NATMav I would NAP that 0utbreak Alliance.
me2, outbreak are the only alliance i would NAP
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Minigin
Ganja Labs
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Posted - 2007.06.25 23:06:00 -
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i would nap State War Academy (they have the best pvpers)
MINIGIN! now posting in "limegreen"
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.06.25 23:06:00 -
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Ganja labs so I could write in green
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Gutsani
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2007.06.25 23:11:00 -
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burn eden so i can fly stabbed ravens with cloaks! (its a joke, do NOT take offence ..) Oh, and the forum drama offcourse ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy! |

Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.06.25 23:23:00 -
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Edited by: Deschenus Maximus on 25/06/2007 23:23:47 I would NAP Sparta, so Shin Ra could come out and say: "NAP Sparta? This is madness!"
EDIT: Plus, I'm all about the manlove.
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Princess Voodoo
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.25 23:25:00 -
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I would nap...
Snigg, so they would stop showing up at late hours in HAC gangs.
They must all be Australians. I KILLED SOMEONE - HERE IS A PICTURES OF IT [ ] |

Crovan
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.25 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Hamatitio MC!
Outbreak MC power blob for the win!
I agree with entilzah, if this topic were real we'd have far too many blues ;o
Don't tease me. MC/TOXIN fleets give me a semi tbh.
Originally by: Major Stormer
Quote: What should the MC do?
Make things explode.
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.06.25 23:33:00 -
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It would change nothing.
Large alliances would simply require their members to include alliance tags on overview, and have declared NAPs based on that.
If you don't like not being able to shoot people, join a corp/alliance that has fewer blues.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.25 23:38:00 -
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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 25/06/2007 23:38:57 Id proly like to nap m-pire they have shown a willingness and tanacity that i greatly admire. And are always willing to mix it up in fleet battles
Id love for ccp to find a way to cure the lag issues in eve without runing the purity of the game or turning battles into tounaments by limiting numbers in a system. It is an interesting paradox that eve players hate lag but refuse to negotiate a limited fleet battle or several to decide the outcome of say a pos or system.
I personaly would hate such limits and hope that there will be a way to deal with the fleet battle lag that otherwise ruins a amazing and incredably enjoyable game.
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Minigin
Ganja Labs
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Posted - 2007.06.26 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra Ganja labs so I could write in green
we are starting a RAINBOW of posters. so far we have orange and green. perhaps you would be purple for us?
MINIGIN! now posting in "limegreen"
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