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A Fart	Posted - 2007.06.26 15:59:00 - [1] Wondering what everybody thinks of my setup, and hopefully I can get some good advice on what I need to change. Highs: 7x Modal Mega Nuetron's Arbalest Siege, or Large nos (havnt decided) Med: Warp Disruptor II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor 100mn Afterburner II Heavy Electrochem, with 800's Low: LAR II (920 per rep with rig) DCU II Shawdow Serpentis Kin. Hardner Shawdow Serpentis Therm. Hardner Shawdow Serpentis Exp. Hardner 2x 1600mm rolled tungstun plates Rigs: 2x ancillary power grid rigs 1x auxillary nano pump I cant fit a mwd at the moment would have to train awu up, I have a 2 run bpc for the TII powergrid rigs, I could get those built and easily a mwd. Any suggestions. I have about 60 cpu, and 200 pg left with this setup. 68 restances across the board.
Bazan Kor STK Scientific M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.06.26 16:12:00 - [2] Highs: 7x Modal Mega Neutron's empty Med: Warp Disruptor II (not sure you'll have the cpu for this but check) otherwise x5 web Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor 100mn Microwarpdrive II Heavy Electrochem, with 800's Low: EANM II F85 DCU (for cpu) SS EXP Hard (or t2) 2x 1600mm rolled tungsten plates 2x MFS Rigs: 3 x Trimark Is what i'd go for. Generally you will need a mwd so that is a must, even with your setup I would recommend it because of the plates. The LAR is going to eat your cap and imo not give enough tank hence ive gone for a fully plated setup. The trimark rigs add to the tank. I would personally sell the pg rigs because you will make hundreds of millions from them, or else save them for a ship that isnt going to die as quickly as this one. As a neutron mega is a gank ship I think you'll need the MFS to up your damage to an acceptable level, especially because you dont have t2 yet.
A Fart	Posted - 2007.06.26 16:18:00 - [3] I was kinda looking at going with max dmg, with the whole hope you kill it strategy. I know the max tank my setup can have, is barely able to tank a cruise raven. What would be my average dps with those mag stabs, and is it really that big of an improvement?
Miss KillSome Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.06.26 16:24:00 - [4] DONT USE BLASTERTHRONE WITHOUT T2 BLASTERS PERIOD... seriously guys..if u cant use t2 blasters, then u dont have enough skills to fly blasterthrone..get over it! Blasterboat without mwd is not blasterboat, coz u need to dictate range.. fit heavy nos two PG rigs are waste of rig slot..one is good, none is best drones? i suggest heavy ecm ones.. where is MFS II? WHERE IS MFSII?????u need at least one.. EANM is your friend, fit one active explosive hardner and two eanms II and u are better off..u are not so cap dependant.. two 1600mm plates are gonna slow u down too much, and including rigs, u are flying brick with a AB..:S
Gabriel Karade Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.06.26 16:24:00 - [5] Edited by: Gabriel Karade on 26/06/2007 16:24:27 Are you unable to use T2 blasters? At level IV blaster spec. Ion II's out-damage the best named Neutrons, give you better tracking and access to Null L. Plus you just about have enough CPU left to fit (7x Ion II's use 63 tf more, but save you lots of grid). Edit: only just noticed the lack of MWD - it's essential. ---------- Video - 'War-Machine'
Lux Exterior	Posted - 2007.06.26 16:32:00 - [6] Originally by: A Fart I was kinda looking at going with max dmg, with the whole hope you kill it strategy. I know the max tank my setup can have, is barely able to tank a cruise raven. What would be my average dps with those mag stabs, and is it really that big of an improvement? A plate mega is the way to go for max damage, it comes down to your fitting skills, but as a rule you MUST have 3 x Magstab 2 in the lows, so 3 x 1600 plates and a DCU2 to finish. You can drop the heavy cap booster and use a medium with 800 charges to save on grid and you absolutely MUST have a good MWD (Quad LiF). 3 x Trimark rigs and some cheapo 3% hardwires from the LP store and you're good to go. Don't forget to buy and load faction Antimatter ammo (Dread Guristas) it gives you nearly T2 DPS output......
A Fart	Posted - 2007.06.26 16:35:00 - [7] Edited by: A Fart on 26/06/2007 16:34:36 No, I can't use t2 blasters yet, I've seen many people tank with the enam setup as mention, figured i'd go for something different. So I was thinking would this be a rather different setup that still had a chance? Highs: 7x Modal Mega Nuetrons Heavy Diminishing as mentioned Meds: 100 named mwd, II takes more pg. Web Warp Heavy Electrochem Lows: 2x Enam II SS exp. hard 2x Mag Stab II 2x Mar II's? If I fit it this way I dont think Ill have a problem getting it all to fit, but is this tank going to last, or could I put the 2 grid rigs on, put on a dmg rig. Put a LAR II and another mag stab II? Didn't see lux's post, if that works which im hearing it does, Ill probally go into that.
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.06.26 17:00:00 - [8] A Fart. ROFL!! I hope that's not your main weapon lol... - Michael Schumacher won many a formula one race. Alot of the time he didn't win because he had a better car...he won because HE WAS A BETTER DRIVER and because he used SUPERIOR TACTICS.
Lux Exterior	Posted - 2007.06.26 17:03:00 - [9] With the setup I posted you WILL smash a Raven to smithereens way before he can kill you. The best use for a plate mega is as a heavy fire support vessel in gangs, you sit at the safe spot with a pal who has remote reppers and heavy rep drones, your gang call you in to break a heavy tank, you warp to zero, annihilate the target then warp back to safe and sit there getting repped waiting for the next callout (or waiting to be found!)
slothe Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.06.26 17:30:00 - [10] Edited by: slothe on 26/06/2007 17:29:36 try and check the forums b4 u post please... for example.. This post is two links down at time of posting !!! lots of posts on this subject
Teani Gallente omen. D-L	Posted - 2007.06.26 17:35:00 - [11] Hi 7 neutron tii med nos Med quad lif mwd , heavy injector , 90% web , 24km disruptor Low 2 rt 1600mm plates , dcu (internal force thingy) 2 mag stabs , 2 energized adaptive 3x trimarks Beat a tii cruise and torp raven , also forget void and use faction antimatter and you will go far Signature Your signature exceeds the 24000 byte limit on the forums -Darth Patches
eikel Caldari Gobshyte Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.26 18:16:00 - [12] Edited by: eikel on 26/06/2007 18:15:26 7 ION II 100mn MWD / disruptor / web / Cap injector 3 Active Hardners / EANM / 2 Large Rep / Dam mod II
Bellicose Gallente Beets and Gravy Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.26 18:28:00 - [13] Edited by: Bellicose on 26/06/2007 18:27:38 Originally by: Teani Hi 7 neutron tii med nos Med quad lif mwd , heavy injector , 90% web , 24km disruptor Low 2 rt 1600mm plates , dcu (internal force thingy) 2 mag stabs , 2 energized adaptive 3x trimarks Beat a tii cruise and torp raven , also forget void and use faction antimatter and you will go far would be a really nice setup cant fit it tho... youd have to skip nos and downgrade to named disruptor instead of tech2 24km Skillpoints Fake Mail
Bellicose Gallente Beets and Gravy Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.26 18:36:00 - [14] Edited by: Bellicose on 26/06/2007 18:35:08 7x Neutron II 1x MWD II 1x Heavy cap inj. II 1x Faint warp 20km 1x Fleeting 90%web 2x 1600mm Rolled 2x mag stabs II 2x engergized adap. nano mem. II 1x inter ( best named DCU ) 3x Trimark with a 3% cpu on turret implant this fits with around 180pg and 2cpu left over Skillpoints Fake Mail
Lux Exterior	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:03:00 - [15] What is it with all this guff, you don't need a heavy injector if you're not running reppers and you don't need nos either..... The OP can only fit T1 guns and drones so you're NOT even answering his question, T2 blasters are fine and dandy but it is simply mythology that a megathron is unusable without them. Run my above posted low skill setup through quickfit and be AMAZED at the damage with Modal Mega Neutrons, Faction ammo, Magstab 2's and T1 Ogres.
Chr0nosX Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:27:00 - [16] 7xModal Ions 1xMwd 1xWeb 1xScram 1xHeavy cap booster 2xLAR II 1xKin hard 1xTherm hard 1xExp hard 1xDC II 1xMagstab II I used that setup with t1 guns and it works pretty well another option in lows is: 2xLAR II 2XEANM II 1X1600MM RT 1XDC II 1XMagstab II
El Torrent Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:51:00 - [17] Originally by: Lux Exterior What is it with all this guff, you don't need a heavy injector if you're not running reppers and you don't need nos either..... The OP can only fit T1 guns and drones so you're NOT even answering his question, T2 blasters are fine and dandy but it is simply mythology that a megathron is unusable without them. Run my above posted low skill setup through quickfit and be AMAZED at the damage with Modal Mega Neutrons, Faction ammo, Magstab 2's and T1 Ogres. You need a heavy injector. It is just not going to work in fights, where you are heavily nosed otherwise. -- Hello World.
Lux Exterior	Posted - 2007.06.27 18:02:00 - [18] Originally by: El Torrent You need a heavy injector. It is just not going to work in fights, where you are heavily nosed otherwise. Nonsense, that setup pours out 700 DPS for six minutes WITHOUT injecting, the medium injector will provide 800 cap every 22 seconds IF you get nossed, a T2 heavy injector will provide 800 cap every 14 seconds, T1 will give 800 cap every 14.5 seconds, now you tell me what can kill you quickly and suck you for 50 cap per second?
GO MaZ Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.06.27 20:04:00 - [19] Originally by: Lux Exterior Nonsense, that setup pours out 700 DPS for six minutes WITHOUT injecting, the medium injector will provide 800 cap every 22 seconds IF you get nossed, a T2 heavy injector will provide 800 cap every 14 seconds, T1 will give 800 cap every 14.5 seconds, now you tell me what can kill you quickly and suck you for 50 cap per second? Any slightly tanked t2 fitted BS will be able to tank 700dps. I've seen some that almost tank 3 T2 fitted gank throns each putting out ~1200dps a piece. Simply put, 700dps is not enough without a lot of gang members to back you up
Sophia Furies Gallente The Nine Gates Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.06.27 21:10:00 - [20] Edited by: Sophia Furies on 27/06/2007 21:11:54 theres the gang thron and solo thron for belt huntin my personal 2 thron setups for solo and all practical purposes highs 7x T2 Ions, both VOID L and NULL L 1x med diminishing nos - med 1x 100mn MWD II 1x x5 engine ennervator w/e 1x 7.5k 2 point scram or 20k scram 1x med electrochemical injector w/800's lows 1x internal forcefield arrAY 1x LAR II 1x LAR II 1x explo n-type 1x thermal n-type 1x kin n-type 1x magstab with 5x hobII, 4x ogreII Gang Setup high 7x Neutron II - med 1x 100mwd II 1x sensor booster II or f90 1x 20k scram or web or second booster 1x med electrochemical boost 800s lows 1x internal forcefield array 2x Magstabs 1x tracking comp 1x 1600m tungsten 1x mar II 1x nano Drones are ur choice sometimes people use 5x ogres ive known somepeople to use armor reppers its really by choice in gangsetups, personally i'd go with my 5x hob II, 4x Ogre II setup ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Crazy Apple
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DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.06.27 21:21:00 - [22] Originally by: A Fart Wondering what everybody thinks of my setup, and hopefully I can get some good advice on what I need to change. Highs: 7x Modal Mega Nuetron's Arbalest Siege, or Large nos (havnt decided) Med: Warp Disruptor II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor 100mn Afterburner II Heavy Electrochem, with 800's Low: LAR II (920 per rep with rig) DCU II Shawdow Serpentis Kin. Hardner Shawdow Serpentis Therm. Hardner Shawdow Serpentis Exp. Hardner 2x 1600mm rolled tungstun plates Rigs: 2x ancillary power grid rigs 1x auxillary nano pump I cant fit a mwd at the moment would have to train awu up, I have a 2 run bpc for the TII powergrid rigs, I could get those built and easily a mwd. Any suggestions. I have about 60 cpu, and 200 pg left with this setup. 68 restances across the board. I can see you fell into the same trap that many new players do. You say ur going for max damage but u have not a single mag stab. Did you know that ions with 1 mag stab do more than neutron without any. I'm pretty sure even electrons with a mag stab will do almost as much as neutrons without. if u want to go max damage then fit 2 mag stabs minimum and lose the active hardeners if needed. gank throns are about killing what's shooting you before u die so you want 2 things, lastability and buckets loads of dps. also i know you say u can't fit an mwd but i would make that the first mod u fit tbh. blasters and an ab just go very badly together DE
Sophia Furies Gallente The Nine Gates Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.06.27 21:29:00 - [23] speaking about AB, jus a question for u guys i like the thron its cool and all but i feel sometimes its soooo slow lol xD ive recently flown a inty and man u feeeeel sooooo freeeeee >.< ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Crazy Apple
Gabriel Karade Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.06.27 22:43:00 - [24] Originally by: Sophia Furies speaking about AB, jus a question for u guys i like the thron its cool and all but i feel sometimes its soooo slow lol xD ive recently flown a inty and man u feeeeel sooooo freeeeee >.< It's fast enough to get the job done. The thing you get is; being used to annihilating other Battleships in between 45 seconds and a minute flat, and one-volleying destroyer sized ships and smaller. Going back to using other ships after being accustomed to that kind of firepower is so disappointingly slow.... ---------- Video - 'War-Machine'
Hephaesteus Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.28 07:40:00 - [25] 7 Ion T2. Null, Void or the faction am from the lp store 1 T2 Mwd 1 Heavy electro chem booster 1 webber 1 scram 2 Accomm reppers 2 Eanm ss 2 Mag Stabs T2 1 Internal force field array 2 Auxiliary armour pump 1 Explosive pump 5 heavy ecm drones Or go for the gankathron with neuts and 3 mag stabs plus masses of armour. Tbh if you cannot fit this or use T2 mods don't bother. Oh, btw a mwd is compulsory for a blasterthron really. If you can afford it, a slave set is well worth it.
PMolkenthin Applied Eugenics	Posted - 2007.06.28 08:35:00 - [26] If you cant use T2 blasters you will have to rely on T2 heavy drones for damage. If you cant use T2 heavies then a blasterthron is just gonna suck. However, assuming you can use tech 2 heavies, dont bother going for a high damage setup cos you wont get it. Instead I would recommend concentrating on your tank. Best named electron blasters will do poo dps but save you plenty of CPU/PG to fit for example 2x LAR II - EXP,THERM,KIN hardener II - EANM II - DCU II. Maybe use a T2 injector for 5 charges, and take lots of 800's. At least then you survive longer. Still a T2 neutron gank blasterthron pilot would muller you
Heikki Gallente Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.06.28 11:33:00 - [27] Originally by: A Fart some .. advice Think you need to first think how do you want to use it. Like for solo pirating in lowsec, as gang firesupport, or for NPCing? Different tasks point towards different setups. In addition to the several setups posted, some random notes, focusing on usages within small gangs: - T2 is very essential and high priority goal; mostly for the extended range of Null ammo - Blasterthron has quite a few usage environments where MWD is not essential (though t1 blasters might indeed require the MWD) - Mega for gank setups; Hyperion for tanks - Something like: 7x neutrons + 1x remote rep; web/scrambler/cap booster + sb or mwd; lows for 3xmag stab + dcu + 2xplate + ean. Faction ammos, both for range and damage. - Drones either epairers, max damage (berserkers to supplement your damage types), or sentries (for fast target switching) - Rigs: no idea, feels still too expensive for daily use -Lasse after losing 50 Megas without MWD
Diehard Si UK1 Zero Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.06.28 12:53:00 - [28] I've got around 15m SP's, around 6m in gunnery, full T2 drones, tank etc. I've bought and fitted out a T2 neutron ganker beast, but not tried it out yet. Before I did, i considered a more NOS/ION approach given the fact NOS still is very important. Was thinking 5-6 ION II's and 2-3 Heavy NOS and a very decent tank. Then 4 x Ogre II's and 5 x warrior II's for support. Anyone had any joy mixing the NOS with the guns? I realise on a megathron this is blasphemy, but i'm open to ideas! -------------------------------------- Lets face it, people that use the word 'noob' are blatantly either 12 or with more friends on the internet than in real life!
n0thing omen. D-L	Posted - 2007.06.28 13:07:00 - [29] Originally by: Diehard Si I've got around 15m SP's, around 6m in gunnery, full T2 drones, tank etc. I've bought and fitted out a T2 neutron ganker beast, but not tried it out yet. Before I did, i considered a more NOS/ION approach given the fact NOS still is very important. Was thinking 5-6 ION II's and 2-3 Heavy NOS and a very decent tank. Then 4 x Ogre II's and 5 x warrior II's for support. Anyone had any joy mixing the NOS with the guns? I realise on a megathron this is blasphemy, but i'm open to ideas! Nos-thron isnt viable simply since Domi can do it bigger and better. As for setups...recently looking at Blasterthron II movie...I found that guy with dual rep Ion setup seemed to perform very nice, why noone uses dual-rep setups then? ---
Brolie Sarcastrophic Industries	Posted - 2007.06.28 13:29:00 - [30] Edited by: Brolie on 28/06/2007 13:28:52 EANM nerf could have gimped that setup in the video. That and the Hyperion has kind of made dual rep setups on a Megathron redundant.

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