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Dai Lithium
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:29:00 -
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Maybe I'm being a complete rookie here, but are there any unwritten rules when it comes to consentual fighting in Eve, especially in regards to pod killing?
The reason I'm asking is that recently while NPCing in 0.4, I had a 2 month-old player convo me to request a 1v1. I'd only been playing 5 days, but thought "what the heck, why not", so docked to remove the more valuable stuff from my ship and flew out to a planet for the fight. It was a decent enough fight, although I didn't really stand much of a chance; his Tristan hit my Incursus really hard with Nosferatus giving me no way of repping.
Anyway, my ship pops and I congratulate him on the victory before I realise he's gone and warp jammed my pod and began shooting.
Now, I'd understand it if I'd been caught out in a careless ganking, but is this common practice in Eve for a fight that was mutually pre-arranged, or just looking for a cheap kill?
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Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:31:00 -
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Theres no rules unless you agree to them before hand. Also be careful since theres some out there that won't even honor what was agreed to before hand and your 1v1 turns into a 10v1.
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flashfresh
Independent Pilots
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:39:00 -
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If it wasn't agreed beforehand; there isn't much you can do. At least he honoured the 1v1 unlike some people we know.
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Shiela
Caldari
Warrior Nation United
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:50:00 -
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He honored it because he wasnt losing, there's a good chance he wouldnt have...
Also to podkill in an agreed duel is lame if you ask me.
Others may have a different opinion.
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Fault24x
Minmatar
Twilight Void
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:56:00 -
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It is usually considered bad form to pod kill after an agreed 1vs1. But in general, warp off just in case.
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Kumu Honua
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Posted - 2007.06.26 23:48:00 -
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Just don't accept 1v1's as they are a figment of your imagination.
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Joe Shooter
Thunderstruck.
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Posted - 2007.06.27 17:38:00 -
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 Originally by: Kumu Honua
Just don't accept 1v1's as they are a figment of your imagination.
/signed
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1tommo1
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.06.27 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Kumu Honua
Just don't accept 1v1's as they are a figment of your imagination.
Signed.
How many times must we have these 1v1 threads....
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warpod
Amarr
Pact Of Honour
United Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:23:00 -
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Agree for 1v1 only if you have a good trap for him.
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:40:00 -
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As others have said there are no rules to a 1v1 that u don't agree to prior to the fight. I don't pod on them but that's not to say it's wrong to.
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Zkillz kun
Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.27 20:07:00 -
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i agree that there are no rules unless agree'd too, but that the notion that there is no such thing as a 1v1 is incorrect. i have had plenty of 1v1's where won and i lost. if people know you and/or aren't too closeminded to think that not everyone is an honorless asshat youcan get some good fights. hell corp mate of mine 1v1'd someone at a where the winner got isk and the loser docked. this was agree'd to while we had 5 peopel sitting on the station. and guess what, no one screwed it up(i'll be damned if it wasn't tempting as hell though :D)
anyway: 1v1's are possible, they don't have rules unless you set them, and don't pod people if they agree to fight you, thats just rude
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Galan Amarias
Amarr
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.06.28 06:10:00 -
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1 v 1 with a stranger that offered it to you will almost always be a trap. If you don't care if your ship pops and you're bored I say go for it. I've had some of my best fights that way.
Once you've been in a region a while you'll come to know the locals and whom you can trust. This can get you honorable fights with all kinds of whacky rules abided by.
Finally, if you run arround by yourself you can have 1v1 with anyone that hasn't got back up. Just find em, scram em and shoot.
-Galan
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Dionisius
Gallente
Vindictive Behavior
THE H0RDE
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Posted - 2007.06.28 08:25:00 -
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You have just learned the same lesson as the japanese during the mongol invasions... scr*w etiquette.
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Tish Magev
Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.06.28 09:17:00 -
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Well as you didn't agree on no pod killing before the duel then you can't really say he didn't honour any agreement. agreeing 1v1s in lowsec is not something i would do personally as you have no protection from being ganked. It's much better to have them in highsec and use the can flagging thing to get agro. However whenever i do a 1v1 in highsec i always insist they steal from MY can as at least I know i'll honour a 1v1 and i'm not gonna call on any of my corp to help out if i start to lose.
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Kindakrof
Caldari
Cruor Frater
Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2007.06.28 09:43:00 -
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Ah dueling, dueling... an honorable sport.
Aye there are codes wich must be followed and i believe they go something like this:
Excerpt from the codex of honor.
Dueling.
There are several rules wich must be followed and kept in mind when agreeing to a duel;
First of wich is to forget all about personal dislike towards the opposing side, treat eachother with respect at all times, from the time you first agree to duel and untill after the duel.
Every single duel must start with the words. "I challenge you to a duel, (nameofopponent)". And every single duel shal end with the words: "Good fithing sir, you are an honorable man.
After saying these words you can only speak to your opponent for one session wich shall start directly after the duel.
As for the rules of the duel itself.
Everything should be mutually agreed to before the duel starts. Ship types, starting range, number of people, spectators etc.
If something was not mentioned when reviewing the rules then it is free to use.
The same goes for pod killing, if not clearly stated that pod killing is not allowed then it isn't.
Upon breaking any of these rules one shall bear the shame forever. One who breaks the rules shall have it written on his tombstone.
Yea that was it.
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Strife Phoenix
Acerbus Vindictum
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.28 10:26:00 -
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Edited by: Strife Phoenix on 28/06/2007 10:25:23
Originally by: Kindakrof
The same goes for pod killing,if not clearly stated that pod killing is not allowed then it isn't .
This is confusing! :)
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Nyck
Not Your Common Killers
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Posted - 2007.06.28 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Dai Lithium
Maybe I'm being a complete rookie here, but are there any unwritten rules when it comes to consentual fighting in Eve, especially in regards to pod killing?
The reason I'm asking is that recently while NPCing in 0.4, I had a 2 month-old player convo me to request a 1v1. I'd only been playing 5 days, but thought "what the heck, why not", so docked to remove the more valuable stuff from my ship and flew out to a planet for the fight. It was a decent enough fight, although I didn't really stand much of a chance; his Tristan hit my Incursus really hard with Nosferatus giving me no way of repping.
Anyway, my ship pops and I congratulate him on the victory before I realise he's gone and warp jammed my pod and began shooting.
Now, I'd understand it if I'd been caught out in a careless ganking, but is this common practice in Eve for a fight that was mutually pre-arranged, or just looking for a cheap kill?
There's consentual fighting in Eve?
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Dai Lithium
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Posted - 2007.06.28 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Nyck
There's consentual fighting in Eve?
You consent to it when you click "log in". 
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Touchen
System-Lords
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Posted - 2007.06.29 02:51:00 -
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GF Dai Lithium, although tristan V hyperion+curse isnt really a good fight but anyway
in dueling and such, if you ask someone to help you kill a BS try to make sure you dont ask a person thats in the same corp as the BS pilot |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.06.29 03:06:00 -
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#1 rule of dueling.... bring friends and have them bring friends because that's exactly what the other guy is doing 
Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
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Dai Lithium
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Posted - 2007.06.29 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Touchen
GF Dai Lithium, although tristan V hyperion+curse isnt really a good fight but anyway
in dueling and such, if you ask someone to help you kill a BS try to make sure you dont ask a person thats in the same corp as the BS pilot
I still maintain that if your buddy in the Curse hadn't showed up, you'd have been in real trouble!
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Touchen
System-Lords
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Posted - 2007.06.29 11:38:00 -
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it would have taken you until downtime to kill me solo. but all i would have done after i figured out what you were jamming me with or dampening me and mwd'd out of that range or got closer to you.
lol you invited my mate to the fight |
Stakhanov
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.29 16:59:00 -
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As far as I'm concerned , the duel has been honored if there's only 1 person on the killmail (bar some sillyness like remote repping)
What happens after the shipkill is the survivor's prerogative. He could even keep your pod scrambled to let a friend exact revenge on you.
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Trevedian
Amarr
KR0M
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.06.29 20:44:00 -
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Edited by: Trevedian on 29/06/2007 20:43:05
Originally by: Kumu Honua
Just don't accept 1v1's as they are a figment of your imagination.
Spoken like someone who has no balls...
I have fought many honorable 1 v 1's, and they were great.
The only thing I have ever booted people from my corp for is not honoring 1v1's and not honoring ransoms (aside from being generally annoying like Kumquat).
Yes EVE is game, but you should still honor the agreements you have made.
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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