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InnerDrive
Black Lance
NBSI Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.27 02:30:00 -
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Edited by: InnerDrive on 27/06/2007 02:42:27
Ive watched the interview with hillmar on eve tv about previous accusations a few times. And as i was watching it with each new topic he raised i was getting this sinking feeling of that inside knowledge abuse by devs will become more and more commen as we go along (he for example said something about a bank that will monitor prices on goods etc).
And the worst part of all is that hillmar does not recognise it as a possible issue yet.. So i have to yet again raise my concern about this.
Especialy so long they have free database access without being monitored if they are abusing knowledge gained trough their work at ccp to become really rich with their playing characters.
Major health issues and this crap going on in game have resulted in me putting eve asside for the time being (as spending most of my life online playing eve to try reach some alliance warfare goal seems very pointless now to me).
Im still of the same oppinion as i was before and i know hillmar will strongly disagree but commen sense dictates otherwise.
How can u justifie developers playing a mmorpg thats so much about information and isk?
This question u have to ask urselfs. what kinda inside information can devs use to become super ultra rich in the game. And think about the impact of say a dev being a director in a corp organising construction and trade while at the same time working at ccp developing new stuff into the game.
Isk means players (near free dreads and hacs tend to do that), and theres a lott of power in numbers and no shortage of isk supply.
Woud it be completely unpluasable to think that when ccp personel plays eve, they play it like anyone else, to get rich, to see their corp gain power in the universe? And woudent they use their knowledge in their heads to reach those goals?
(small example: @ccp office, average day at work: we are putting those and those complexes and stations there in that region that drop those and those items @live servers: WAIT at work we just put those uber expensive items in those new complexes in that region over there so we will get our characters that are directors to order my alliance to conquer that specific region DING)
The sources of dev players knowledge:
Can they seperate the knowledge they gained from developing the game or looking at the database and working at ccp from their knowledge from just playing? And is it at all defendable that they are getting involved in pulling the strings in alliances that have eve global impact?
And maybe the most important question of all i woud like to ask:
Just how far are devs playing on the live servers allowed to go in getting involved with taking charge of a alliance that conquers the entire universe and becomes centillionairs trough inside knowledge abuse?
My previous post about this issue somehow vamporized so i had to make this new one, all i ask for is that CCP will aknowledge that inside knowledge abuse is a real issue, A LOTT of the community allready agreed that it is, hundreds of possible ways have been raised before and i will refrain from repeating em all. There IS an issue and as the game grows and DEVS keep having the same options without being monitored they will grow in power trough knowledge.
Why this is a issue?
The main one: Whats the point in fighting a war against a enemy that has no limits in funding(=players)? There are people that play this game a few hours a day just for fun but there are others that play it 16 hours a day, for these people in particular it becomes more than just for fun, u want to reach goals on alliance warfare level. But the fact ur possibly up against a DEV makes it pointless to try and to invest so much of ur free time on.
CCP will u aknowledge developer inside knowledge abuse as a issue and work on monitoring and preventing it?
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InnerDrive
Black Lance
NBSI Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.27 02:51:00 -
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 Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 27/06/2007 02:33:04
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Just how far are devs playing on the live servers allowed to go in getting involved with taking charge of a alliance that conquers the entire universe and becomes centillionairs trough inside knowledge abuse?
So basically your post boils down to another claim that BoB is led by a bunch of devs and is going to conquer all of EVE, right?
No i intentionaly never refered to BOB in my post as this issue is not about BOB. Its about the developers and their roles on the live server content with their playing characters. "Conquering all of eve" as u refer to it is also the most extreme form of what a developer coud do to our community. It can be on a smaller scale but still affect thousands as the game grows.
Im allready concerned when inside knowledge is abused to get very rich to the degree that in affects other players in some way. Im not even talking about taking away players "homes" etc.
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InnerDrive
Black Lance
NBSI Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.27 03:18:00 -
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Originally by: Frug
I don't see why it should get locked and I don't see it being reduced to another BoB whine thread, because it's not.
The points he raises are valid ones. They're some of the only valid questions that still linger after the whole threadnaught debacle. It's not about any particular alliance, it's about how you can use insider knowledge to get rich, and limiting who has access to that information.
I'm pretty sure CCP has said that they keep it on a 'need to know' basis, but I would like to see an official statement about it.
If I had known about changes in rev2 I coulda made some serious cash...
Coudent have said it better myself :). Thanks
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InnerDrive
Black Lance
NBSI Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.27 03:25:00 -
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Edited by: InnerDrive on 27/06/2007 03:28:53
Originally by: Dark Shikari The T1 BPOs were selling for 4-8b and up long before the devs even made the decision to make them into T2, IIRC. [/quote
Shikari no offense but how do u know when the devs make a decision about something? Hillmar even specifically stated in the interview on eve tv that CCP trys to finalize ideas before they make it public in anyway that they are gonna do something. This is also why the information in the dev blogs/test servers will never be enough to prevent all inside knowledge abuse.
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