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Cheunger BURN EDEN	Posted - 2007.06.28 15:28:00 - [31] Originally by: Jesters Knight i think that if CCP is going to force me to keep around a player who is intent on stealing or shooting his corpmates then they should get stuck in the corp as long as they CEO piles on roles. i mean really, IRL if im fired im out that miniute, im nto given 24 hours to grab everything i can and run. if the player reomves roles then yes, i think there should be a 24 hour grace period. if the CEO kicks them then they should be gone instantly and put into an NPC corp. or given 15 miniutes warning then they are putout. this whole leaving and kicking from a corporation is bull EVE is not real life. Get it into your head. If it's against the rules in EVE to prevent a player from leaving the corp, then it's petionable and the person adding on roles should be punished. This is plain and simple. If you want to use real life, then read this: When you get fired (in Canada at least), the manager must give you a 2 week notice. So really...you have 240 hours to grab what you can.
Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.28 15:45:00 - [32] Originally by: Cheunger Originally by: Jesters Knight i think that if CCP is going to force me to keep around a player who is intent on stealing or shooting his corpmates then they should get stuck in the corp as long as they CEO piles on roles. i mean really, IRL if im fired im out that miniute, im nto given 24 hours to grab everything i can and run. if the player reomves roles then yes, i think there should be a 24 hour grace period. if the CEO kicks them then they should be gone instantly and put into an NPC corp. or given 15 miniutes warning then they are putout. this whole leaving and kicking from a corporation is bull EVE is not real life. Get it into your head. If it's against the rules in EVE to prevent a player from leaving the corp, then it's petionable and the person adding on roles should be punished. This is plain and simple. If you want to use real life, then read this: When you get fired (in Canada at least), the manager must give you a 2 week notice. So really...you have 240 hours to grab what you can. and what happens to you if you walk out with the company comptuer there? do they simply call you and say "hey, give that back!" or is there something more they can do to you? in the states you walk out with something you are tossed in jail and fined (unless you have a really slick lawyer, then that may change things) the point is that this is the only way someone can combat a corp thief. CCP gives thieves a huge amount of tools in this area, and the only one they give a CEO they claim is an exploit. Highsec POS's Skip the wait and research in the fast lane (lets see if the webserver holds)
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.06.28 15:47:00 - [33] Originally by: Saori Rei If the op stole from the corp. Then she deserves what is happening to her and I agree with the corp completely. If she -didn't- then this is griefing and causing misery. therefore is the way of eve... so sadly tough nuts :S don't be a muppet. Stealing from a corp IS NOT an exploit, it is perfectly allowed in eve no matter how lame it is. Holding someone in a corp against their will by adding roles IS an exploit. nuff said. DE
Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.28 15:50:00 - [34] Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: Saori Rei If the op stole from the corp. Then she deserves what is happening to her and I agree with the corp completely. If she -didn't- then this is griefing and causing misery. therefore is the way of eve... so sadly tough nuts :S don't be a muppet. Stealing from a corp IS NOT an exploit, it is perfectly allowed in eve no matter how lame it is. Holding someone in a corp against their will by adding roles IS an exploit. nuff said. DE So what do you propose in order to get back at a corp thief assuming they move into an NPC corp? you cant war-dec them. if you suicide them over and over then you are harassing, and can be banned. so, what do you propose to do to get back at a corp thief? Highsec POS's Skip the wait and research in the fast lane (lets see if the webserver holds)
Igus Green Gecko Inc. Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.28 15:55:00 - [35] Originally by: Jesters Knight Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: Saori Rei If the op stole from the corp. Then she deserves what is happening to her and I agree with the corp completely. If she -didn't- then this is griefing and causing misery. therefore is the way of eve... so sadly tough nuts :S don't be a muppet. Stealing from a corp IS NOT an exploit, it is perfectly allowed in eve no matter how lame it is. Holding someone in a corp against their will by adding roles IS an exploit. nuff said. DE So what do you propose in order to get back at a corp thief assuming they move into an NPC corp? you cant war-dec them. if you suicide them over and over then you are harassing, and can be banned. so, what do you propose to do to get back at a corp thief? Simple, better control over corp assets. Don't give anyone access to things they don't need access to. A locked down corp roles may be a pain but it is well worth the price of a little annoyance. -- snip Your signature exceeds the maximum filesize (24,000bytes) and also the signature dimensions 400x120 pixels -TheDagda ([email protected])
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.06.28 16:00:00 - [36] Originally by: Jesters Knight Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: Saori Rei If the op stole from the corp. Then she deserves what is happening to her and I agree with the corp completely. If she -didn't- then this is griefing and causing misery. therefore is the way of eve... so sadly tough nuts :S don't be a muppet. Stealing from a corp IS NOT an exploit, it is perfectly allowed in eve no matter how lame it is. Holding someone in a corp against their will by adding roles IS an exploit. nuff said. DE So what do you propose in order to get back at a corp thief assuming they move into an NPC corp? you cant war-dec them. if you suicide them over and over then you are harassing, and can be banned. so, what do you propose to do to get back at a corp thief? I suggest doing anything you like without blatantly disregarding the rules. There is no excuse for breaking them, simple. DE
Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.28 16:31:00 - [37] Originally by: Igus Originally by: Jesters Knight Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: Saori Rei If the op stole from the corp. Then she deserves what is happening to her and I agree with the corp completely. If she -didn't- then this is griefing and causing misery. therefore is the way of eve... so sadly tough nuts :S don't be a muppet. Stealing from a corp IS NOT an exploit, it is perfectly allowed in eve no matter how lame it is. Holding someone in a corp against their will by adding roles IS an exploit. nuff said. DE So what do you propose in order to get back at a corp thief assuming they move into an NPC corp? you cant war-dec them. if you suicide them over and over then you are harassing, and can be banned. so, what do you propose to do to get back at a corp thief? Simple, better control over corp assets. Don't give anyone access to things they don't need access to. A locked down corp roles may be a pain but it is well worth the price of a little annoyance. Problem is that if this is the incident that i think it is then the stuff was pulled out of the ship maintinance array. there is not any granular control over that structure, either the whole corp can take or nobody can. while i agree with corp roles that is one instance where it jsut dosent work because of a "feature" by CCP. if the corp hanger had been looted then lol noobz, you got jacked. but the fact is that there was no way to stop just the people who were high risk and allow others in that situation. Highsec POS's Skip the wait and research in the fast lane (lets see if the webserver holds)
Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.28 16:33:00 - [38] Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: Jesters Knight So what do you propose in order to get back at a corp thief assuming they move into an NPC corp? you cant war-dec them. if you suicide them over and over then you are harassing, and can be banned. so, what do you propose to do to get back at a corp thief? I suggest doing anything you like without blatantly disregarding the rules. There is no excuse for breaking them, simple. DE thats exactly my point. there is NOTHING you can do in that case that is not against the rules. if there is please tell us. Highsec POS's Skip the wait and research in the fast lane (lets see if the webserver holds)
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.06.28 16:37:00 - [39] It's petitionable as harassment and is taken very seriously. Arguing the point is futile. Originally by: Benglada And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.06.28 16:41:00 - [40] Want to stop corp theft? Stop hiring every fresh-out-the-tube player you see in space just to make your corp look bigger and badder. Its about quality, not quantity. Thats why kleptos suck.
Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.28 16:57:00 - [41] Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr It's petitionable as harassment and is taken very seriously. Arguing the point is futile. no, arguing the point gets it fixed. you whine enough on the forum and the DEV's fix it. and while it dosent effect me right now i would like it fixed before it does. Highsec POS's Skip the wait and research in the fast lane (lets see if the webserver holds)
Lisento Slaven Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.28 17:00:00 - [42] It would be cool if there was a button, for a member, to toggle "accepting roles" and "declining roles." That way people wouldn't have to deal with this anymore. You want to leave a corp and think they're going to try to keep you? Click the button and you won't get any more roles! Want to get roles? Click the button and they can give you roles! --- Put in space whales!
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.28 17:03:00 - [43] If you dont want things stolen from a ship maintenance bay dont put them in there? I mean, its not exactly rocket science! Besides, rockets suck Best way to deal with corp thieves is to blow them up until theyve lost 10 times the value of what they stole, its easy, even in high sec Real turtles tank armor. Real men fly Pink. Nerfageddon!
JamesTalon Caldari Electric Fury Corp	Posted - 2007.06.28 17:12:00 - [44] Originally by: Jesters Knight Problem is that if this is the incident that i think it is then the stuff was pulled out of the ship maintinance array. there is not any granular control over that structure, either the whole corp can take or nobody can. while i agree with corp roles that is one instance where it jsut dosent work because of a "feature" by CCP. if the corp hanger had been looted then lol noobz, you got jacked. but the fact is that there was no way to stop just the people who were high risk and allow others in that situation. As someone who uses a POS to store a couple of ships, if you do not have the Starbase Equip role for your corp, your not going to be able to take anything out of a POS. If you give someone access to your POS and they decide to steal everything then tuff luck. "Return with your shield, or on it."
Renosha Argaron Caldari The Celestial Free Miner's Sev3rance	Posted - 2007.06.28 17:21:00 - [45] Edited by: Renosha Argaron on 28/06/2007 17:21:55 Ok clearly this person must have stolen something from his/her corp and thats the reason why they are not allowing them to leave.......and where is the rule that says that its illigal to hold someone in a corp for stealing? If this person stole from his corp m8's who no doubt worked hard to get what they had....then why should,nt he get a taste of his own medicine?....stealing from your corp is NOT part of the game mechanics like so many have said.....i think to steal from people you are ment to be friends with is one of the worst crimes you can commit in eve. You get no simpathy from me if your a theif....and before CCP make any decision on this case then i think they should also look in to the reason why he is being held there.......if you do the crime then be prepaired to do the time. Also if this person is so innocent ....why post with an alt?....lol On the other hand...i do have to agree with some of the points raised......why this person had access to hangers if they where not completely trustworthy is beyond me.....the CEO should only give grantable roles to those he trusts. Regards Renosha
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.28 17:27:00 - [46] petition a gm for yourself if you don't believe us, or actually read the dev blogs Corp theft is endorsed, exploiting roles to keep people in a corp will get you suspended at the very minimum Real turtles tank armor. Real men fly Pink. Nerfageddon!
Renosha Argaron Caldari The Celestial Free Miner's Sev3rance	Posted - 2007.06.28 17:52:00 - [47] Edited by: Renosha Argaron on 28/06/2007 17:50:48 Well i say let them eat cake.....lol....i dont really care either way....but if he stole from someone who was ment to be a friend then he deserve's everything thats happening to him....lol....dont go crying to ccp about it.
Marek Payne Insult to Injury	Posted - 2007.06.28 18:04:00 - [48] Originally by: Jesters Knight Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr It's petitionable as harassment and is taken very seriously. Arguing the point is futile. no, arguing the point gets it fixed. you whine enough on the forum and the DEV's fix it. and while it dosent effect me right now i would like it fixed before it does. If your trying to 'end' corp theft then give it a rest, it wont happen, ever. If your trying to 'fix' the maintance array 'feature', then /signed.
Cheunger BURN EDEN	Posted - 2007.06.28 18:12:00 - [49] Originally by: Jesters Knight Originally by: Cheunger Originally by: Jesters Knight i think that if CCP is going to force me to keep around a player who is intent on stealing or shooting his corpmates then they should get stuck in the corp as long as they CEO piles on roles. i mean really, IRL if im fired im out that miniute, im nto given 24 hours to grab everything i can and run. if the player reomves roles then yes, i think there should be a 24 hour grace period. if the CEO kicks them then they should be gone instantly and put into an NPC corp. or given 15 miniutes warning then they are putout. this whole leaving and kicking from a corporation is bull EVE is not real life. Get it into your head. If it's against the rules in EVE to prevent a player from leaving the corp, then it's petionable and the person adding on roles should be punished. This is plain and simple. If you want to use real life, then read this: When you get fired (in Canada at least), the manager must give you a 2 week notice. So really...you have 240 hours to grab what you can. and what happens to you if you walk out with the company comptuer there? do they simply call you and say "hey, give that back!" or is there something more they can do to you? in the states you walk out with something you are tossed in jail and fined (unless you have a really slick lawyer, then that may change things) the point is that this is the only way someone can combat a corp thief. CCP gives thieves a huge amount of tools in this area, and the only one they give a CEO they claim is an exploit. Again, back to my main point. EVE is not real life. Get it into your ******* head. I mentioned real life to simply tell you that your "get fired, don't have 24 hours" idea is not exactly true. The way to combat corp theft is not to be a complete moron. Enough said.
Cheunger BURN EDEN	Posted - 2007.06.28 18:19:00 - [50] Originally by: Jesters Knight Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr It's petitionable as harassment and is taken very seriously. Arguing the point is futile. no, arguing the point gets it fixed. you whine enough on the forum and the DEV's fix it. and while it dosent effect me right now i would like it fixed before it does. It's people like you who ruin perfectly legit playing styles. I'm referring to everything BESIDES this corp theft issue. Nano-nerf, mission probing nerf, torp nerf, the cloaking nerf that will come in soon, etc. The majority of these whiners don't understand how to adapt. It's ******* ridiculous that CCP listens to all these people cry like babies. Now going back the above...Is corp theft legit in EVE? Yes it is. If people are smart enough and put in the effort to be thieves, then props to them for being clever. Good job deceiving the leaders of the corp. Is preventing someone from leaving the corp legit? No. Learn the game. Maybe it'll improve on management skills.
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.06.28 18:40:00 - [51] Originally by: Stitcher Originally by: ZelRox Maybe the 24hr cooldown should prevent adding the roles too. well, the entire point is to give people a day to change their minds. I figure the way to prevent this is to include a toggle system. Once the player has selected "remove all grantable roles" the option changes to "accept grantable roles". The corporation cannot then give roles to the player unless and until they choose to accept grantable roles again. Actually, I believe the point is to prevent people hopping in and out of a corp, to dodge wardec/camps and stuff.
Renosha Argaron Caldari The Celestial Free Miner's Sev3rance	Posted - 2007.06.28 18:55:00 - [52] Well maybe a corp "BRIG" for badmen is a good idea.....lol
Doktor Quick	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:19:00 - [53] Originally by: Amarr Saviour i was shot down by a crop member. then i droped my roles and tried to leave. they tracked me down and almost killed me again. they added roles after i attempted to leave twice.. should i petition this.. will anyhting come of it? this is for another character in another corp.. heres a way to make a profit from this, find some pirates and make friends with them, (not hard to do trust me) then use your show corp members in space map option to provide inteligence to your new friends, then plunder your old friends with the help of your new friends, they'll either boot you themselves or you can go on making a profit on their stupidity.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:21:00 - [54] Its a blatant harassment. Petition it, and they're in a lot of trouble. --------
Santa Anna Caldari Blackguard Brigade Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:21:00 - [55] Originally by: Cheunger The majority of these whiners don't understand how to adapt. It's ******* ridiculous that CCP listens to all these people cry like babies. Now going back the above...Is corp theft legit in EVE? Yes it is. If people are smart enough and put in the effort to be thieves, then props to them for being clever. Good job deceiving the leaders of the corp. So the way to adapt to most things people whine about is to bring friends, but the way to adapt to the threat of corp thievery is to never trust your friends? I think what the OP's Main's CEO is doing to him blows, but if you catch a corp thief before he gets away you should have some recourse. That, or we should have greater control over the access rights of individual corp members. If we had an adjustable daily quota for withdrawing items from the corp hangar and an option to only allow players to remove ships that they'd put in the maintenance array, that'd be fine too. So much of the corp asset management system is all or nothing that you pretty much have to be stupidly naive to get anything accomplished as a corp that you couldn't accomplish individually.
Gord Ackfordham Caldari Fenscore Enterprises	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:48:00 - [56] Originally by: Jesters Knight CCP gives thieves a huge amount of tools in this area, and the only one they give a CEO they claim is an exploit. i agree. i've had 3 instances of corp thieves in 2 different corporations, and not being able to do a damned thing about it sucks... all they do is hide in an npc corp until they can move to 0.0, therefore making and wardeccing impossible for smaller corporations. all i wanted was my items/money returned and all the gm's did was sit there and say "bad gordo, stop reassigning roles or you're banned." --gordo
Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:51:00 - [57] to the people who dont get what i am saying. 1. there was no amount of management to stop this (if it was was posted about yesterday) anyone in the corporation could take out of the hanger array, if it was taken from a corp hanger then its managements fault, if it was taken from the hanger array after removal of roles then its CCP's fault. he gained the assets by exploiting a bug, and therefore i see no problem in seeing using a bug to combat it. corp theft will happen, manage your stuff accordingly, BOTH exploiters should be banned, not just the CEO 2. "People like me" donÆt ruin any type of game style. You assume that the only reason people *** on the forum is because they got killed. There are a few issues that you would agree on with me, and the only way they will ever get attention is by *ing on the forum. I never once **ed about anything that wasnÆt a true bug in the game (or GM's not knowing what was going on). Take your self righteousness elsewhere, CCP has screwed up on this one and needs to addressee it. if you donÆt like the things that are getting ôfixedö then maybe you should think about the things you would like to have fixed and start talking about them. The issue I have was never weather it was legitimate or right to hold someone in a corporation against their will using roles, the problem is that that is the ONLY way you are guaranteed to be able to make them pay. Solutions like ôget your friends and kill themö donÆt work when they run back to an NPC corp. Corp theft is part of the game; it will always be part of the game. ThatÆs one of the reasons I enjoy this game is because you can do whatever you want (IÆm not saying I endorse corp theft, just saying that the fact that it is an option makes the game that much better). My complaint here is that as far as I can tell, it is a bug in the way ship arrays work at POSÆs where you donÆt have to have any roles to pull stuff out of it. and anyone who has lived in lowsec out of a POS can tell you that using a password simply doesnÆt work on the bubble. My second complain (although much more minor) is that there is no way to combat against corp thieves who run to NPC corps. You canÆt wardec them and if you suicide them over and over you are harassing them. Highsec POS's Skip the wait and research in the fast lane* (lets see if the webserver holds)

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