Originally by: Van Burren

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The problem is with a very strange "coincidences" in 46dp, 6t3 and 77se-8. Where GMs did nothing. One side was disconnected (de-sync'ed? frozen?) and other side was ok and slaughtered the other side.

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Originally by: Van Burren

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'cause it is very strange that lag/desync helps BoBs a lot and spoils the game for others. For others - it'll save them from extinction = leaving the game.

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Your turn.

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Originally by: Lickity Split

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Its amazing people never want to accept the fact maybe they are at fault. How many bob do you see in jita? Last time i checked it had alot of lag. I guess we did that also huh? Face the facts, WE ARE BETTER THAN YOU! Its not lag, its not CCP, its not exploits. Its skills, tactics, determination.

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Originally by: CCP Wrangler

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EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.

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Originally by: Van Burren

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2All: I didn't want to accuse anyone, so I'm sorry if someone took it personally.

I just want a Fair Play-driven game.

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Originally by: Lickity Split

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Its amazing people never want to accept the fact maybe they are at fault. How many bob do you see in jita? Last time i checked it had alot of lag. I guess we did that also huh? Face the facts, WE ARE BETTER THAN YOU! Its not lag, its not CCP, its not exploits. Its skills, tactics, determination.

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Originally by: Lickity Split

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Its amazing people never want to accept the fact maybe they are at fault. How many bob do you see in jita? Last time i checked it had alot of lag. I guess we did that also huh? Face the facts, WE ARE BETTER THAN YOU! Its not lag, its not CCP, its not exploits. Its skills, tactics, determination.

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Originally by: Lickity Split

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Face the facts, WE ARE BETTER THAN YOU! Its not lag, its not CCP, its not exploits. Its skills, tactics, determination.

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Originally by: Occara

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Originally by: Lickity Split

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Its amazing people never want to accept the fact maybe they are at fault. How many bob do you see in jita? Last time i checked it had alot of lag. I guess we did that also huh? Face the facts, WE ARE BETTER THAN YOU! Its not lag, its not CCP, its not exploits. Its skills, tactics, determination.

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as an outside observer who isn't involving himself in eve pvp yet, I have to say that this is the typical response in an mmo of a side that has some unfair advantage. you aren't helping your cause at all by posting things like this.

as a veteran of many mmos and MANY instances of overpoweredness/exploit/etc, the group with the advantage always claim some mythical skill/tactic/whatever as if they are better players than the others. it is something I have seen time and time again.

this may not be the case here, but i wish to honestly let you know that posts like this will not help your cause at all. you are exhibiting the classic behaviour of the over-advantaged in a game trying to attribute it to some magical skill.

i hate to break it to you bub (bob?), but given a large group of players in a game, in comparison of another large group of players, skill levels are going to be equal.

if you really think you are just better than others, you are deluding yourself.

ok, 3rd party commentary off.

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Originally by: grayson 34

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Thank you for yall's advice, and a special thanks to AegriSomnia for reminding me that there are still ***holes in the world.

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Originally by: Occara

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Originally by: Lickity Split

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Its amazing people never want to accept the fact maybe they are at fault. How many bob do you see in jita? Last time i checked it had alot of lag. I guess we did that also huh? Face the facts, WE ARE BETTER THAN YOU! Its not lag, its not CCP, its not exploits. Its skills, tactics, determination.

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as an outside observer who isn't involving himself in eve pvp yet, I have to say that this is the typical response in an mmo of a side that has some unfair advantage. you aren't helping your cause at all by posting things like this.

as a veteran of many mmos and MANY instances of overpoweredness/exploit/etc, the group with the advantage always claim some mythical skill/tactic/whatever as if they are better players than the others. it is something I have seen time and time again.

this may not be the case here, but i wish to honestly let you know that posts like this will not help your cause at all. you are exhibiting the classic behaviour of the over-advantaged in a game trying to attribute it to some magical skill.

i hate to break it to you bub (bob?), but given a large group of players in a game, in comparison of another large group of players, skill levels are going to be equal.

if you really think you are just better than others, you are deluding yourself.

ok, 3rd party commentary off.

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But thats what we face day in day out - people who have not got a clue accusing everyone else of using aimbots. We win battles because we are better - not because of h4x. That is the point Lickity is making.

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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Originally by: Occara

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Originally by: Lickity Split

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Its amazing people never want to accept the fact maybe they are at fault. How many bob do you see in jita? Last time i checked it had alot of lag. I guess we did that also huh? Face the facts, WE ARE BETTER THAN YOU! Its not lag, its not CCP, its not exploits. Its skills, tactics, determination.

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as an outside observer who isn't involving himself in eve pvp yet, I have to say that this is the typical response in an mmo of a side that has some unfair advantage. you aren't helping your cause at all by posting things like this.

as a veteran of many mmos and MANY instances of overpoweredness/exploit/etc, the group with the advantage always claim some mythical skill/tactic/whatever as if they are better players than the others. it is something I have seen time and time again.

this may not be the case here, but i wish to honestly let you know that posts like this will not help your cause at all. you are exhibiting the classic behaviour of the over-advantaged in a game trying to attribute it to some magical skill.

i hate to break it to you bub (bob?), but given a large group of players in a game, in comparison of another large group of players, skill levels are going to be equal.

if you really think you are just better than others, you are deluding yourself.

ok, 3rd party commentary off.

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Once you get involved in eve pvp, you will understand how wrong you are.

Lets say 10 fully t2 fitted hacs take on 10 t1 cheapist fitted cruisers. How many HAC's will die? Probebly not even 1, since they lack the discipline to even focus fire on one target to break its tank. Now if the cruiser pilots were to start yelling "Aimbot, H4x, I wiz l4gged" then that is the excuse, not the reason they lost. The reason they lost is that they were not setup correctly for the job at hand.

Another example. I took on a raven in my curse. I have a scrambler on him and I am shooting him away. I hear all maner of accusations as to why his explosive torps do almost no damage to my ship, and that I was hacking. Obviously he never knew that I shiled tank my curse's and shield tanked curses usually have around 90%+ explosive resit due to their fitouts. He then had the good grace to warp out, so fitting a stab is now the flavor of the raven ratter again. Obviously the stab nerf is not enough.

But thats what we face day in day out - people who have not got a clue accusing everyone else of using aimbots. We win battles because we are better - not because of h4x. That is the point Lickity is making.

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Originally by: Occara

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How many thousands are large alliances? This is the scale i speak of. do you honestly think that your x thousand are better than their x thousand?

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