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Aurion Goldleaf
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Posted - 2007.06.29 09:32:00 -
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I have a hard time working out which POS's are most suibtable for which roles. There might not be specific rights or wrongs, but other than matching fuel type to local Ice sources what are peoples thoughts on Which POS?
Specific roles I can think of:
Hi Sec Research POS
Low sec / 0.0 Research or Manufacturing POS
Moon Mining
Temporary safe cyno spots for cap fleet moving
Temporary Low sec / 0.0 Mining Base
Sov POS
Id love to get an idea from peoples experience, rather than my own theorising based on the items database.
Thanks
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Carniflex
Caldari
Fallout Research
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.06.29 11:01:00 -
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Hi Sec Research POS - large caldary
Low sec / 0.0 Research or Manufacturing POS - amarr/minmatar (for cap ship prod, not reasonable for others)
Moon Mining - Amarr small or Gallente small
Temporary safe cyno spots for cap fleet moving - small caldary
Temporary Low sec / 0.0 Mining Base - small amarr/minmatar
Sov POS - minmatar large (best) or Amarr large (second best)
You also missed reactions. For that Either Amarr or Gallente large (complex) or medium (simple) are best solutions.
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Rikeka
Amarr
Eye of God
X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.06.29 13:38:00 -
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I don¦t think Amarr Medium CT¦s have enough CPU for reactions.
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Rikeka
Amarr
Eye of God
X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.06.29 13:47:00 -
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Hi Sec Research POS
Caldari Large
Low sec / 0.0 Research or Manufacturing POS
Amarr Large
Moon Mining
Any racial Small Tower is fine, it highly depends on what racial ice belt is closer. Still... I¦d say Amarr or Gallente, for Silo bonuses.
Temporary safe cyno spots for cap fleet moving
Caldari Small
Temporary Low sec / 0.0 Mining Base
Two different things: For a 0.0 Mining Base, I say use a Gallente Large one. Any large one is fine, as you need 4k CPU for the best Refining array. Gallente is the choice, then, for the Silo bonus.
As a Temp Low Sec base? Avoid using CT¦s, and use the NPC stations. CT¦s are not to use as Low Sec bases, not even as 0.0 bases, unless you are living in the Drone Regions, which then a POS as a base is essential if you don¦t want to attract attention too much, and/or you are not blue to the locals.
Sov POS
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Aurion Goldleaf
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Posted - 2007.06.29 16:02:00 -
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Thanks for the info guys.
Why say the Caldari one for cap fleet cynos?
Is the Amar one second for Sov because it can do the 2nd most effective damage or is there another reason behind your choices?
On that note - would you always fit the POS's with only their own races weaponry?
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Daerkannon Shimmerscale
Gallente
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.06.29 18:56:00 -
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PG and CPU end up being deciding factors more than the other tower bonuses in more cases and therefore you end up with Gallente or Caldari for moon mining/complex reactions (I have tower setups that need all the CPU on a Caldari tower and therefore won't fit on a Gallente). Amarr gets silo bonuses, but doesn't have the CPU for most complex reaction fits if you're also doing any sort of moon mining or simple reaction with that POS.
Minmatar and Amarr are considered the best for death stars because of the larger grid available, but Minmatar win because of the ability for projectile weapons to do all 4 kinds of damage by just changing the ammo. On all other racial POS you'll want a mix of weaponry to get a spectrum of damage types. All energy turrets on an Amarr POS is particularly bad because EM/Therm are easy for armor tankers to handle.
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Aurion Goldleaf
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Posted - 2007.06.30 20:05:00 -
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Thanks for the info.
Why would the Caldari one be best for Cap Ship safe cynos? Thats the only thing in the above posts that I cant see the reason behind?
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Morhon
Amarr
Aegis Starship Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.06.30 21:34:00 -
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Seems to go from best defence to best CPU in a sliding scale that meets in the middle.
Mimitar has best defence and would make a great death star but lame at industry
Amarr has a bit less defence but can do a bit more industry
Gallante has less defense but can do reasonable industry (and also requires less industry baby sitting than any other tower)
Caldari has loads of industry but crap defence.. and also requires alot of baby sitting.
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Sovereign533
Caldari
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.07.01 00:33:00 -
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Research/Temporary Low sec / 0.0 Mining Base
Caldari, always due to highest cpu amount
Sovereignty/Capship Prod pos/Temporary safe cyno spots for cap fleet moving
Minmatar, for having 3x bonus to sentry guns
Moon Harvesting/Reaction/Complex Reaction
Gallente, for having 100% bonus to silo's
and i know i don't have the Amarr race in it, cause if you need fire power, go for Minmatar, cause those are better... need CPU? go for Caldari... and need storage? go for Gallente...
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Kylar Renpurs
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Posted - 2007.07.01 01:47:00 -
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I'm confused as to why people dont see caldari towers as viable for reactions, with their best CPU and all.
Although only a low-end reaction, I could still rig up a moon miner (two if you're lucky, just replace this silo) and a silo into a medium reactor to pump out an advanced material to a silo. This silo, and an additional one sourced externally into a standard reactor, pumping into another silo to produce an advanced material.
Plus there's CPU for a corp hangar after that. From there on in it's turrets turrets turrets.
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Aurion Goldleaf
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Posted - 2007.07.01 10:36:00 -
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Reading the above posts I imagine its because the offensive capability of the Caldari towers is too poor for low sec or 0.0 - the locations where youre gonna have these reaction chain set ups.
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Carniflex
Caldari
Fallout Research
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.07.01 11:03:00 -
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 Originally by: Aurion Goldleaf
Reading the above posts I imagine its because the offensive capability of the Caldari towers is too poor for low sec or 0.0 - the locations where youre gonna have these reaction chain set ups.
That and CPU using structures go offline when reinforced. Caldary tower has not enough power grid to arm itself with guns and as missiles go offline it's relatively easy to 'gank' large caldary towers in timezone where defenders will sleep. Combine that with relative uselessness of ECM batteries (and E-War in general due to the fact that it takes 2 minutes to lock battleship and they have max 1 target) on POSes and you have perfcet loser for low sec / 0.0
It does shine as high sec research base however as it's possible to mount 15 lab arrays in it (100% cpu).
And as far why caldary small as fleet cyno spot - it's bcos of it has biggest amount of shields. You will not need strontsium for that as most likely you will be able to jump in and out before it runs out of shields. If you dump 1 hour of strontsium into it also then any tower will do for that. In most situations any small tower will do anyway as possibility that enemy can move big enough blob to kill that tower so fast is quite low.
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