Ok because its been brought up countless times happy if you wanted to pew you shouldn't have jced to your training clone then deal with it or go pew in said clone.

I imagine CCP limited Jumpclones to 1 every 24 hours because they didn't want people jumpcloning to the other side of the map to defend their space as soon as a threat showed up and then jumpcloning back to resume whatever they were doing on the other side of the map.

However jumpclones were introduced at the same time as Titans. CCP at the time wanted Titans to be super super rare, but here we are in a game full of supercaps where you can set up a chain of titans to jumpbridge a fleet to practically anywhere in the game. Pandemic legion actually do this. They're deployed down south, but if you mess with their personal tech moons up north, they'll Titan chain right up there and push your sh*t in straight away, and then they'll Titan chain right back down again and resume whatever they were doing.

Even if you don't have a titan chain set up to your home region while you're deployed, you can still set your clone to another station remotely and just kill yourself, then pay for a new clone. That's what we do every time G0dfathers (they're so cute, they think they own Fountain) reinforce one of our POSes in Fountain while we're all deployed in Vale. We save it, dock our ships up, and kill ourselves back to vale to continue what we were doing.

So if you have an alliance full of low SP players you can traverse the map by podding yourself home. If you have an alliance full of high SP players you can probably set up a titan chain to bridge yourselves back home.

Therefore I think that the long cooldown on jumpclones is now redundant and jumpclones are only useful as a means of storing implants which would otherwise prevent you from wanting to participate in PvP. So the jumpclone cooldown timer should be reduced, or just remove JCs and give us free SP clones and allow us to unplug implants.

sadaris give a reason or you just look like a e-tard ginger stepchild who died their hair blonde b4 kick-a-ginger day.

I imagine CCP limited Jumpclones to 1 every 24 hours because they didn't want people jumpcloning to the other side of the map to defend their space as soon as a threat showed up and then jumpcloning back to resume whatever they were doing on the other side of the map.

However jumpclones were introduced at the same time as Titans. CCP at the time wanted Titans to be super super rare, but here we are in a game full of supercaps where you can set up a chain of titans to jumpbridge a fleet to practically anywhere in the game. Pandemic legion actually do this. They're deployed down south, but if you mess with their personal tech moons up north, they'll Titan chain right up there and push your sh*t in straight away, and then they'll Titan chain right back down again and resume whatever they were doing.

Even if you don't have a titan chain set up to your home region while you're deployed, you can still set your clone to another station remotely and just kill yourself, then pay for a new clone. That's what we do every time G0dfathers (they're so cute, they think they own Fountain) reinforce one of our POSes in Fountain while we're all deployed in Vale. We save it, dock our ships up, and kill ourselves back to vale to continue what we were doing.

So if you have an alliance full of low SP players you can traverse the map by podding yourself home. If you have an alliance full of high SP players you can probably set up a titan chain to bridge yourselves back home.

Therefore I think that the long cooldown on jumpclones is now redundant and jumpclones are only useful as a means of storing implants which would otherwise prevent you from wanting to participate in PvP. So the jumpclone cooldown timer should be reduced, or just remove JCs and give us free SP clones and allow us to unplug implants.

How about if the clone jump does not result in changing stations, the timer is much shorter? That way the purpose of the 24 hour timer, to keep the universe a big place, remains, but a change done just to get into a low implant clone is fast. (Another reason for the 24 hour timer is to prevent easy escapes from a camped station.)

It could even be fitted into the game lore: Sending your mind across space is disruptive to it, and you need 24 hours to recover. But if the transfer can be done via a hardwired connection between you and your clone its much less disruptive and the recovery time is less.

seeing as the Etards ignore the good ideas in favor of trolling the bad ideas i will repost this for more views and mabe it will sink in that this is a good idea

Even 24h is too much IMHO, so no thanks. Yes its a convenience, but I'd rather play _without_ it.
If I put something sixty jumps away, I expect to be forced to go there manually. With portal the feeling of belonging to a game universe and immersion is broken.

you are not getting what i am saying Nestara ..... if your corp/alliance decides to go on a roam and you stuck in a expensive implant jump clone you most likely will not go unless there is little risk in being podded. in nullsec/wh pvp the chances of getting podded are MUCH greater as you can use interdictor bubbles there and if you die in the bubble you can prety much kiss your clone goodbye.

and this thread is not about nerfing anything especially medical clones ... noone in the game wants that ... this thread is about streamlining the Jump clone timer to be in line more with the modern game of eve not what it was based on years ago when titans came out ... things are totaly diffrent now.

also i am not sure why you would enjoy flying 60 jumps to get something there is not much immersion there as almost everyone spends 50% of their game activity jumping around anyway. i would think immersion would be being able to get into the right clones for task at hand and flying with my m8's to fight when we get good opportunities to do so.( this is also in CCP's best interest as it promotes more pew pew)

the alternative is to risk losing a possible billion dollar clone in situations where its unneccasary(pretty dumb) or just waiting until you can jump your clone again and logging off.

Why do people insist on clinging to the arbitrary barriers to fun in the game? There is literally no reason for jump clones except to act as a sort of bottleneck for enjoyment. They are pointless and stupid and do nothing but stand in the way of enjoying the game wherever you are. The fact that anyone wants to hold onto jump clones and learning implants shows that they have become Stockholm syndrome sufferers, unable to see that they are being forced into misery because they think it's the only way.

Remove jump clones, remove learning implants and hell, remove learning attributes. All they do is provide meaningless and perfunctory barriers to the enjoyment of playing the game. They restrict your in-game freedom in large and noticeable ways and no-one in the right mind should want to hold onto them. There is no reason for their continued existence. None.

How about if the clone jump does not result in changing stations, the timer is much shorter? That way the purpose of the 24 hour timer, to keep the universe a big place, remains, but a change done just to get into a low implant clone is fast. (Another reason for the 24 hour timer is to prevent easy escapes from a camped station.)

It could even be fitted into the game lore: Sending your mind across space is disruptive to it, and you need 24 hours to recover. But if the transfer can be done via a hardwired connection between you and your clone its much less disruptive and the recovery time is less.

Or maybe not.

You're asking game to be dumbed down because you cant plan in advance to jump into a clone for pvp, either an empty one or maybe with two cheap +3 implants.

'Dumbing down'

You see how you've been suckered in? Jump clones do not add any level of complexity that makes the game enjoyable. You're buying into the nonsense and you accept the current state of affairs without question. It doesn't have to be this way. Don't you understand?

Things can change. We can remove this arbitrary barrier to fun. We can do it.

Together.

But first you have to sit yourself down and ask yourself a simple question: why do I accept these meaningless restrictions?

The only reason this is a problem for you, is that you're perpetually trying to min/maxing everything. I haven't had an implanted clone on my PVP char the last 2+ years, because I know I will get podded, and I can't be arsed to use implants.

Essentially, the "oh god I can't go PVPing because I'm in my +5 clone" problem is your own fault. You chose to go there instead of being more patient or less min/maxing.

The only reason this is a problem for you, is that you're perpetually trying to min/maxing everything. I haven't had an implanted clone on my PVP char the last 2+ years, because I know I will get podded, and I can't be arsed to use implants.

Essentially, the "oh god I can't go PVPing because I'm in my +5 clone" problem is your own fault. You chose to go there instead of being more patient or less min/maxing.

Any game mechanic that causes people to log instead of play is a poor one, and should be changed.

This.

I'll go a little bit further. NO timer if jumping into a clone in the same station.

Id rather have a seconde skill that reduces the time. but yes it needs to be shorter.

Id rather have a seconde skill that reduces the time. but yes it needs to be shorter.