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Callthetruth
Caldari
Logical Logtistics
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Posted - 2007.06.30 12:12:00 -
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From thye general forum. Easy to program and would reduce workload on petition devs
 Originally by: Inspiration
Edited by: Inspiration on 30/06/2007 11:13:43
It may be better to give people a choice to filter out trial account chat from specific channels (per chanel, like the blink on/off feature). Kind of like an autoblock feature, and implement the same setting for evemail too.
Ofcourse, people in your buddylist and your own player corporation should be excluded from this setting. It would solve the whole ISK selling spam works in one fell swoop. The little bit of managing that remains will be in players hands then, and not the overworked GMs.
I see no downsides to this, trial account players can chat with other trial account players by default, as the autoblock feature will be for paid accounts only. Isk sellers will fade away as these new players have no use for massive amounts of isk anyway.
PROBLEM SOLVED!
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HeadWar
Minmatar
North Star Networks
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.06.30 16:34:00 -
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I see a massive problem with that:
Trial account noob in Local chat:
"Umm, could someone help me, I don't know how to play this game?"
"Hello?"
"******* rude player base, to hell with this."
*logs off, never to come back*
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Crystal Blue
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Posted - 2007.07.02 01:31:00 -
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I always though it would be easier to stop noob accounts posting links
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Terminus adacai
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.07.02 02:03:00 -
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Simply keep trial accounts out of trade channels.... Let them chat all they want in channels that GM and STAR volunteers actually monitor. The isk spammers won't last long.
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Chainsaw Plankton
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Posted - 2007.07.02 09:04:00 -
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the ones i have seen recently have been all linking to the same site... mayhaps make that site a blocked word?
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n0thing
omen.
D-L
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Posted - 2007.07.02 10:58:00 -
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No links posting for trials is pretty good idea actually.
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Aramendel
Amarr
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.02 10:59:00 -
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Edited by: Aramendel on 02/07/2007 11:02:01
Originally by: HeadWar
I see a massive problem with that:
Trial account noob in Local chat:
"Umm, could someone help me, I don't know how to play this game?"
"Hello?"
"******* rude player base, to hell with this."
*logs off, never to come back*
People who are interested in helping newbies can still keep them "unignored".
And in your first 30 days (= at least the whole trial period) you forced-join the rookie channel where you can aks questions. And which could be made an exeption for the ignore override.
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
the ones i have seen recently have been all linking to the same site... mayhaps make that site a blocked word?
And one hour after the side name gets blocked they have a new link which is redirecting people to the original site.
Originally by: n0thing
No links posting for trials is pretty good idea actually.
Thats impossible to do. How would you do that? Making them unable to write "www"? And w w w? And worldwideweb? As long as they can type stuff they can post links. They would just write "visit easyisk dot tw in the internet!"
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TomParad0x
Caldari
Angels of the Apocolypse
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Posted - 2007.07.02 12:32:00 -
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Edited by: TomParad0x on 02/07/2007 12:33:21
I agree with Aramendel on the part of links. It is not possible to block every link, this would also affect people who post links to legit stuff (Like their corp forums). You can post links in to many different forms to block them all (www . randomsite . com, randomsite (dot) com, etc). A better bet along the lines of link blocking, would be hunting down all the isk selling sites they can and blacklisting / blocking messages sent in EVE via e-mail or chat containing randomIskSite / RandomIskSite.com / etc. The nest bet IMO would be to block the messages based on different variations of the domain itself, without the suffix(.com, etc) or prefix (wwww) or http, so just as long as the message matches (Anything)RandomIskSite(Anything) block the message (I cant think of a reason why people would want to be saying the name anywhere outside of reporting it via petition).
As for trial account blocking, I would hate for it to come to that. Granted, people can leave them unblocked if they want to help but then they have to put up with some isk selling ads, or just not help the trial account people. Also, if you give people an option to block trial accounts or not is (in my opinion) pointless. For example, some one who is interested in buying isk in the first place may not block them just so he / she can see the ads. Which in affect makes the blocking pointless with the exception of filtering out some of the spam.
Sorry, but there is no 'easy button' way to block anything like this.
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Aramendel
Amarr
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.02 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: TomParad0x
Which in affect makes the blocking pointless with the exception of filtering out some of the spam.
That IS the whole point. Giving people a way to counter spam.
If you want to buy isk you do not need tp rely on ingame spam to inform you of possibilites. You can google for sites within minutes.
Blocking certain like names also does not work. If you block easyisk.com it takes only minutes to setup a link to missioninfo-fd.com which, if visited, will redirect you directly to easyisk.com. Sure you can block than that, but by that time the "damage" is already done, the spammails are sent. For for the next batch there will be a new link.
The only way to counter spam is in the end giving the recievers ways to block it. And in eve the only "cheap" way to send spam are trial accounts. You cannot make making trial accounts so spammers cannot use them without making it unuseable for new players. So the only remaining option is to allow peopel to block trials.
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Nisse Owned
The Order of Chivalry
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Posted - 2007.07.02 13:43:00 -
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Edited by: Nisse Owned on 02/07/2007 13:43:28
Or, you could simply limit trail accounts so they aren't allowed to send more than 5 evemails per hour... That will solve that kinda spam at least, and maybe add a autodisconnect if you send like 5 messages in less than a second to one or more channels.
Still, the times I've had to report a spammer, he was banned in like 15 minutes, so not like it's a big problem, of course, he got his spam out 
And, I don't think it's a good idea limiting trail accounts too much, that might scare off lots of new players...
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TomParad0x
Caldari
Angels of the Apocolypse
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Posted - 2007.07.02 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Aramendel
Originally by: TomParad0x
Which in affect makes the blocking pointless with the exception of filtering out some of the spam.
That IS the whole point. Giving people a way to counter spam.
If you want to buy isk you do not need tp rely on ingame spam to inform you of possibilites. You can google for sites within minutes.
Blocking certain like names also does not work. If you block easyisk.com it takes only minutes to setup a link to missioninfo-fd.com which, if visited, will redirect you directly to easyisk.com. Sure you can block than that, but by that time the "damage" is already done, the spammails are sent. For for the next batch there will be a new link.
The only way to counter spam is in the end giving the recievers ways to block it. And in eve the only "cheap" way to send spam are trial accounts. You cannot make making trial accounts so spammers cannot use them without making it unuseable for new players. So the only remaining option is to allow peopel to block trials.
Yes, becaus I was unaware you could do redirecting / googling (/sarcasm)
All it will do is make them have to do more work to bypass, just like blocking trial accounts. I happen to agree with you, but I do not think blocking trial accounts is the answer. And if you do block them, you need to do it on a large scale basis (IE: The only chat they can talk in is start-corp, like you said in your other post) or else they will try to ask people questions in other places and not get a response and think "Man, that guy is an ass". But quite frankly, they will start posting in the start-corp chat too. Granted, they will get banned faster most likely, but the damage is already done, the message is already posted. IP banning is pointless, as most IPs are dynamic unless you want to start banning entire regions (IE: 12.42.0.0 - 12.42.255.255 range). Which lets face it, would hurt the community more than it would them.
There is no way to stop the spam, the only thing you can do is make it more work for them to do.
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OHGODSPIES
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Posted - 2007.07.02 16:57:00 -
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Tl;DR
ISK spammers alway, always post a link or name of their site. If they don't, their potential buyers don't know where to go. The number of such sites is limited and will eventually stop them from speaking at all. On the other hand, tinyurl can bypass that. I vote for hardware bans.
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Driven
Caldari
Mass Produced
Venturi Starea
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Posted - 2007.07.02 19:38:00 -
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Why not just prevent trial accounts from chatting in the trade channels. Let them look just not type.
The ISK spamming in the trade channels is pretty far out of control.
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