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Mannakin
Caldari
Mercurialis Inc.
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.01 20:01:00 -
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Eve Voice is linked to the game.
Lose the game you lose voice comms - this is a critical problem as far as I'm concerned.
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Tarkan Kador
Amarr
PanTarkan Kador Holdings
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Posted - 2007.07.01 21:04:00 -
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The fact that TS/Vent are independent of the game allow their users to better influence the game.
Can you track the IPs from EVE Voice for security purposes? If not, then the tool is less useful.
Can you use EVE Voice across games? If not, then the tool is less useful.
Can you coordinate logoffskis, logon traps with EVE Voice? If not, then the tool is less useful.
See, Vivox is under the impression that people use tools like TS and Vent because it's fun. While that may or may not be the case, people use voice tools primarily because they are useful. Thus, the greater the usefulness, the greater the adoption of the tool.
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Feng Schui
Minmatar
The Ninja Coalition
New Eve Order
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Posted - 2007.07.02 04:09:00 -
[33]
 Originally by: Elegant Rapture
I don't use teamspeak/eve voice for two mains reasons.
1) I don't want to hear smack talk from a juvenile, heavy breathers, or someone eating pizza while slurping a soda.
2) I don't want the extra "attention" that comes when a female talks on a mic.
I've thought about using eve voice in a passive role only, and never speak but that kinda defeats the expereince. So, I just use chat channels and make due with the limited gang commands.
male or female... no voice comms, no gang (In PvE or PvP). I don't care if the other person doesn't talk, but they do need to have the voice comms.
I'm sad to see you say this, I have a feeling you're missing out on alot of the MMO experience 
My opinion is my own, not of my corp or my alliance. If you have problems, we can have a "who can do L4 missions faster" duel >:) |
Tarkan Kador
Amarr
PanTarkan Kador Holdings
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Posted - 2007.07.02 05:11:00 -
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Originally by: Feng Schui
Edited by: Feng Schui on 02/07/2007 04:21:19
Originally by: Elegant Rapture
I don't use teamspeak/eve voice for two mains reasons.
1) I don't want to hear smack talk from a juvenile, heavy breathers, or someone eating pizza while slurping a soda.
2) I don't want the extra "attention" that comes when a female talks on a mic.
I've thought about using eve voice in a passive role only, and never speak but that kinda defeats the expereince. So, I just use chat channels and make due with the limited gang commands.
male or female... no voice comms, no gang (In PvE or PvP). I don't care if the other person doesn't talk, but they do need to have the voice comms.
I'm sad to see you say this, I have a feeling you're missing out on alot of the MMO experience
back on topic.. tried it out, couldn't get it to work at all. back to TS/Vent.
I'm sorry to see you say, "no voice comms, no gang." Back when none of us had voice comms on games like EQ and UO, we grouped just fine, and we never felt as if we were losing out on any of the MMO experience.
Besides, voice has never been about enhancing the MMO experience. It's about metagaming the MMO experience. People adopt voice because it's advantageous, not because it's fun.
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.02 06:26:00 -
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Edited by: Sevarus James on 02/07/2007 06:25:59
Not using it here. Ubuntu system. EVE works awesome.....as long as eve voice is disabled. turn it on and *poof*.
Even if I WERE on winblows, it'd be a no-go because the voice client is integrated into the game client. Major brain f*rt there eh?
TS/Vent are the only way to go at the moment. (In an alliance this is even MORE important.)
Ubuntu 3d Beryl-Linux Desktop+EVE |
Galen Kane
Caldari
Excessive Force
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Posted - 2007.07.02 06:53:00 -
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I'm truly surprised that so many EvE players are anti Voice, I use it and really don't want to gang with anyone that is phobic about it. I use EvE voice, but can switch to vent or TS is a flash if thatĘs what everyone else is using. Bottom line I don't care what flavor is being used as long as some type of voice communication is being used. i do hope they improve EvE voice I would like to see a Hailing frequency system integrated in EvE Voice along with channels for Corporations and gangs, the good thing is that more and more folks are using voice.... I see that as a good thing.
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Feng Schui
Minmatar
The Ninja Coalition
New Eve Order
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Posted - 2007.07.02 06:55:00 -
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Originally by: Tarkan Kador
I'm sorry to see you say, "no voice comms, no gang." Back when none of us had voice comms on games like EQ and UO, we grouped just fine, and we never felt as if we were losing out on any of the MMO experience.
Besides, voice has never been about enhancing the MMO experience. It's about metagaming the MMO experience. People adopt voice because it's advantageous, not because it's fun.
You're right, actually. It is highly advantageous. When I say, it enhances the MMO experience, I mean, that it gives you advantages that just are not there otherwise. EvE is one of the games where it isn't as mandatory as, lets say, Dark Age of Camelot (where twitch reflexes are the name of the game.. whoever can be fastest on the keyboard wins).
The reason I will not gang w/o voice comms is simply put.. I have to be doing other stuff while I fight, and any second not fighting can mean life or death.
This is where voice comms comes in. While I issue (or take) commands from the FC / Group leader, I can be doing 5-6 other things in game. Or in EvE.. I can scout, and call target orders, even before the gang / fleet arrive in the system.
But.. to each thier own I suppose 
My opinion is my own, not of my corp or my alliance. If you have problems, we can have a "who can do L4 missions faster" duel >:) |
TOTALHELLDEATH
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Posted - 2007.07.02 18:48:00 -
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so.. it looks like Eve - Voice is death?
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Korizan
Oort Cloud Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.02 19:11:00 -
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Well as I use another computer (a mini MAC) for my voice communications and other things.
EVE voice doesn't make any sense to use.
And well everyone in my corp uses Ventrillo.
And we have friends in other corps as well and they use vent.
Sometimes we are not even logged on and are chatting away or someone just stops by to see what is going on before they go out to dinner or something.
So having to be logged in to use EVE voice is one of the main reasons why it is just not practical.
Second is the cost.
Ventrillo is a just cheaper.
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Methem
The Hand of Mortis
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Posted - 2007.07.03 07:24:00 -
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I was considering Eve Voice until I found out that everyone has to subscribe for it.
 If you could pay for a channel (similar to renting a TS server), where everyone in the channel could speak, that would make it slightly more desirable.
Persuading the majority of a corp to use Eve Voice is impossible if everyone has to pay for it. I know a lot of people who only use thier voice options b/c its provided to them for free.
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