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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.01 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Homer Greyt Edited by: Homer Greyt on 01/07/2007 18:20:44 Edited by: Homer Greyt on 01/07/2007 18:18:29 I'm surprised.
I believe i also thought you were BoB alt. I definately don't know if i was right then.
You post is not BoB friendly, and makes them look not like champions they wanna be.
Biased or not, you connected some dots i couldn't connect myself. So thank you.
The failure to advance past 9-9 is a failure on BoB part indeed and undeniably so. All the other systems were given up by goons at RA's command. Taking those was not a challenge at all. And now BoB are even getting beaten back. It definately sucks for BoB and is a great motivation for the Coalition forces.
I find it very amusing, if it is true, that BoB have to beg MC to come down and help. That the loss of a titan will overshadow their failed EVE-domination party. And that in fact and also very surprising to me, BoB are not able to win against the southern coalition.
Time will show. But with every day that BoB fail to advance further into RA space the southern coalition gets even more strong and determined.
Time to die BoB. You are not the best PVPers in game and thus you have outlived your purpose.
I am terrible at history, but in 1948 i beliebe someone said something like that:" Russians cann not be taken by force." (I will go and look for some more substantial data.) Napoleon and Adolf H. tried it. It seems you are the next in line to fail, even with all your resourses.
Have a nice day!
That was fairly well written so i will respond in kind. This will be a very long war and we have pushed back the attackers from feyth back into omist, and then they fell back to, scalding pass? forgive me i cannot recall the name. 9-9 will probably change hands for awhile but in the grand scheme of things, the end result is all that matters. If it takes weeks/mths to break a well entrnched foe at the cost of gajillions of ships,caps and blood, then so be it.
You guys used to use that philosphy if i recall, losses were irrelevant in the grand picture. ooyz was well entrnched and took alot of hard work to finally conquer but it was done, mainly coz of cap gank attempts and pos timers etc. On the flipside, goons and co were on the offensive against bob but now the fight is happening in there garden, not bobs.
Tbh, until we lose alot more ground than the 1 station so far (xgh, 9-9 will ping pong for sure ) i'm not convinced as a bob grunt that we are being pushed back at all. I think after the initial fallback by goons giving up omist, it was always going to get harder and take longer the further into enemy territory you push. But it doesn't stop us trying and never will.
As i said, this will be a very long war and anyone who thinks otherwise or sees oneside winning or losing at this point needs there headchecked 
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Lone Bear
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.01 19:06:00 -
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Liked your 1st paragraph about objectivity/neutrality, but it seems you dont know what this word means; well not yet tho. Objectivity/neutrality is not granted by an opening statement, but it has to be felt on your whole essay.
You tried quite well this time, but failed as you were writing and writing and writing some more.
Nice try, good luck for the next one.
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Slayton Ford
Vindicate and Deliverance ASGARDIAN EMPIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.01 19:12:00 -
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A good read, dunno how accurate, but still well written. You should have mentioned BoBs MS loss also.
And anything that brings the BoB trolls out is always a nice to see. --------------- This sig has been censored in fear of recieving the ban hammer... |

TWD
TAOSP Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.01 19:14:00 -
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I applaud your obviously very objective post with no bias, speculation and trolling whatsoever.
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Xrak
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.01 19:24:00 -
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Im sorry you seem to be misplaced, the fiction section is that way --->
Sig stolen from Tekka. Evemail him for details about free sigs. <3 |

Johnny Rook
Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc Blind Beavers
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Posted - 2007.07.01 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: James 315 objective
you keep using that word... I do not think it means what you think it means Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo |

Sir JoJo
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.01 19:50:00 -
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Better luck next time!
u gonna need it
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6Bagheera9
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.01 20:00:00 -
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Utter trash and poorly veiled attempt at trolling.
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Snake Jankins
Minmatar German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.07.01 20:01:00 -
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Hmm, you should maybe train your objectivity a bit. I doubt that you are a BoB member, nevertheless you pretend to know, what every BoB member was thinking in each moment and why they acted in this or the other way. Like:
Originally by: James 315 The last thing SirMolle saw as his clone left the system was his own alliance's motherships running away in fear, allowing their leader be torn to bits by ravenous Goons.
I'd rather think they noticed that the Titan is lost and tried to get the other capitals out, before they get trapped too. I mean, if it was my titan and noticed that death is unpreventable, I'd suggest that the other capitals like maybe an expensive mothership try to get out, because those get lost too. It's preventing further losses, not running away in fear.
Originally by: James 315
BoB's morale sunk to its lowest point since SirMolle's rousing "everyone else is already dead" speech. BoB had lost everything: its momentum, its systems, its titan, its sense of purpose and, worst of all, its prestige in the Eve community. Outspoken BoB pilots demanded that its leadership admit their failures and change course.
Same like above. It would only be objective, if you knew it for sure, but without insider information it's just your subjective view. You think it was that way. Objectivity doesn't work like that.  ___________ I've never been so serious as I am now. No, really. |

Cpt Pugwash
Rubra Libertas Militia
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Posted - 2007.07.01 20:03:00 -
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It is a well written opinion based upon solid facts.
The Bob squad should think twice before they scream bias as the OP clearly missed some great opertunities to interpret those facts and make Bob look far far worse.
We should be holding this post up as an example of how one should be posting on CAOD.
Don't try to derail it or flame it until it is locked instead try to encourage this kind of well written comment
If everybody posted more like this there would be a lot of unemployed mods 
Movies: Make Mine a Bob Light
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Kramer Verone
Amarr TeamMX
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Posted - 2007.07.01 20:07:00 -
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The part about remedial breast feeding goons suggests you're a goon alt.
Go get them BOB, they are mocking you on your own forum (CAOD).
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Florio
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.01 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: James 315 The purpose of BoB is to win an unbroken string of victories. To never persevere through loss or hardship, to never risk a real defeat. To play a game that, due to the advantages fair or no, they cannot lose. To ask the Band of Brothers pilot to place his assets at a real risk of destruction again and again is anathema.
The problem for your diminishing and irrecoverably-tattered reputation is that anyone with a clear head who has fought against BoB knows that that is utter utter drivel.
And all this is a bit like the start of the ASCN war when COAD was chortling that BoB had been halted in their tracks.
Won't be long before there's another "What will we do when BoB wins EVE" post.....
The real winner of June, of course, is desynch 
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.01 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 01/07/2007 20:14:51 Well James, I have a saying. People should focus on what they do best. In your case, it is "PvP"ing in a multi-WCS stabbed up smartbomb battleship with a cloaking alt in case something dangerous appears.
Im sure the community begs for your experiance --
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Empero
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.01 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron Well James, I have a saying. People should focus on what they do best. In your case, it is "PvP"ing in a multi-stabbed up smartbomb battleship with a cloaking alt in case something dangerous appears.
The problem is: He is also weak in doing that. I killed him. :-Q
PS: Hi James! :-) Next time don't hide if the Empero enter the local. --
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Kvarium Ki
legion of qui Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.01 20:20:00 -
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That was a good read, interesting point of view. And you know, what's wrong with beeing biased anyway?
Funny to see all these BoB posts, only one of them wasn't of the "STFU" type. Has BoB lost it's muse?
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Aleatory
Technology Acquisition Collective
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Posted - 2007.07.01 20:21:00 -
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This post makes me giggle at how "unbiased" it is. I think you need to re-evaluate your understanding of the word objective.
Still, I havent seen a BoB forum troll turn out like this in quite a while, someone let the leash off huh? 
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Wulfgard
Minmatar Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.07.01 20:23:00 -
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Gotta love seeing all these BOB posters scurying around for a way to flame or troll the OP. You better wake up D.Preacher for some serious damage control 
I enjoy your posts, keep them coming James...
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Angelus X
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.01 20:28:00 -
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I can't believe you posted this thread and honestly thought that by mixing some obvious facts with some exaggerations, speculation, and utter bull***** you could create an 'objective analysis without any propganda or spin.'
What I'm interested in knowing is are you a rather stupid Coalition alt? a rather stupid anti-bobbit? or a bob-alt trying to be one of the former two. Either way please grow a pair before delivering you're next 'objective analysis' and POST WITH YOUR MAIN. Then an actual dissusion/debate might begin on the huge amount of inaccuracies in your post. 
Kthx. Angie 
Foxor : targets are lewt, just not yet in can form Hi |

Tecam Hund
The Buggers
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Posted - 2007.07.01 20:36:00 -
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Hardly neutral, but this is no trolling or asking the guy to end himself. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
A lot of it is true even if exaggerated.
Quote: And the Russians had been roused from their slumber and decided to take it to BoB. Within days of the nerf, a fleet of Goons had trapped SirMolle's own titan and began pummeling it to death. Red brought in dreads, doubling the size of the local capital fleet. And to the sound of a hundred howling Goons, SirMolle's pride and joy was destroyed...
..."As you say, the howls. But they were not howls of anger, hunger, or even of satisfaction. They were howls without emotion or human consciousness, like the howls of a wolf who performs his task in the wilderness because it is his nature..."
Epic 
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.01 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Wulfgard Gotta love seeing all these BOB posters scurying around for a way to flame or troll the OP. You better wake up D.Preacher for some serious damage control 
I enjoy your posts, keep them coming James...
If i was you, i would be more concerned at how much you lot run away from fights just recently.
Currently training forum ***** resistance L5 |

Nero Winger
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.01 20:43:00 -
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well, the more people reply to his topic the more important it will become (as from 0 it dont take much effort to go up the numbers).
the best way to stop Alt-CAOD-Posters is to totaly ignore them to death.
well, it's very easy with this alt-poster as he is anyway posting only ****. Goon propaganda, that will boost the morale of the Goonies. I like that, maybe it will make them get more fights in the future and not letting us 1 month do nothing else than take stations.
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Zhaine
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.01 20:44:00 -
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Got about 2/3 of the way through the first post James. . . It became painful clear that you're quite stupid and there was no need to read on.
Congrats on taking up to a minute of my life from me. - - - - - - - - - -
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Broska
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.01 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Wulfgard Gotta love seeing all these BOB posters scurying around for a way to flame or troll the OP. You better wake up D.Preacher for some serious damage control 
I enjoy your posts, keep them coming James...
I don't think any damage control needs to be done. Anyone with half a brain can see that is one sided anti-bob hatered. Without having look at the big picture at all.
The OP give's the impression that BoB is falling apart, blah blah blah. Somehow I don't think so. ------------------------------
Originally by: Tovarishch flying a Scorp into a fleet battle is like parking a pink moped in front of a biker bar - you will die... quickly.
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General Xerxes
Delta Omega Iota Inc. Breidablik
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Posted - 2007.07.01 20:55:00 -
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I love how practically the second the news of Shrike's titan going down hit CAOD all the stuff about BoB taking over all of EVE evaporated and suddenly they are going to die again.
The EVE community is fickle and, to be honest, rather stupid.
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Homer Greyt
H.Y.D.R.A. GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.01 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Homer Greyt Edited by: Homer Greyt on 01/07/2007 18:20:44 Edited by: Homer Greyt on 01/07/2007 18:18:29 Edit: too long
That was fairly well written so i will respond in kind. This will be a very long war and we have pushed back the attackers from feyth back into omist, and then they fell back to, scalding pass? forgive me i cannot recall the name. 9-9 will probably change hands for awhile but in the grand scheme of things, the end result is all that matters. If it takes weeks/mths to break a well entrnched foe at the cost of gajillions of ships,caps and blood, then so be it.
You guys used to use that philosphy if i recall, losses were irrelevant in the grand picture. ooyz was well entrnched and took alot of hard work to finally conquer but it was done, mainly coz of cap gank attempts and pos timers etc. On the flipside, goons and co were on the offensive against bob but now the fight is happening in there garden, not bobs.
Tbh, until we lose alot more ground than the 1 station so far (xgh, 9-9 will ping pong for sure ) i'm not convinced as a bob grunt that we are being pushed back at all. I think after the initial fallback by goons giving up omist, it was always going to get harder and take longer the further into enemy territory you push. But it doesn't stop us trying and never will.
As i said, this will be a very long war and anyone who thinks otherwise or sees oneside winning or losing at this point needs there headchecked 
I don't see this war as something bad for me. So i don't actually want it to end.
The problem i see is that you have to invest a lot more time and effort to win the POS war, but if you do that you will only overexert yourselves. As i understand it BoB login only if there is some gang assembling. So you are at your limit as it is already while Goonswarm and RA together have no primetime as such. When RA log in Goons are there already annoying you. When RA go to sleep after a long OP goons are still there, surely some different goons but still. And there is TCF who have 2 more hours before they go to sleep than RA.
Everything you do, you do alone. Recharging and fueling POSes, repearing stations, hauling stuff. I don't know how you manage it all but you seem to be able to. So i have nothing but respect for that. Yet there is a limit to how long you can go on withought success.
Sure it can be a very long war. And as long as you don't give up it might never end.
I wonder if it is what you want. To be cought up in an unending POS war. You also have to keep in mind that POS war is what RA are best at. And with us they will even get to sleep, while you won't.
Have fun! :) ________ Let's dance! |

Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.01 21:05:00 -
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That was quite entertaining, really. Almost purely fictional, but still entertaining. [YACAODI1MAC] is proving to be one of my favourite pointless alt corps  --------
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Fry Fortune
Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.01 21:39:00 -
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He forgot DB Preacher losing his mothership 
Otherwise entertaining read 
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nickycakes
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.01 21:53:00 -
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I HAVE FAILED MISERABLY! TEACH ME HOW TO PVP MC, BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE! ---
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Kyria Timeyu
Pie Vendor
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Posted - 2007.07.01 22:04:00 -
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What's dragging BoB down is all the LV imports and other recent hirees they took on in desperation when 3/4 the Eve universe attacked them 2 months ago. You just need to read local after BoB has lost a fight, they smack worse than many lowsec pvpers.
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Gloomrake Ono
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.01 22:21:00 -
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Thread if full of nonsense.
James315 stop making crap up and kill my corp.
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