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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.02 18:16:00 -
[31]
mmmmmm interesting. So who's left in Turby then? tribal on his own 
DE
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Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.02 18:21:00 -
[32]
I don't know the whole story (very likely) but let me get this straight:
1. Buncha guys from Turby leave.
2. Bad blood exists between entrenched leadership and members who left.
3. Members who left (at least two of them) are hunting Turby.
4. A firefight happens, ex-Turby cleans the floor with current Turby.
5. Director / CEO / leadership / someone kicks another Turby member for being friends with these guys.
Ok, with all that said, here's what I see: The folks who left Turby seem to be more combat capable than those still in Turby. Why is Turby's leadership angry that their members got a lesson in PvP? I read something about "new" Turby recruits. I don't know if that is truth or propoganda, but every time I lose a fight, I think about exactly what happened, what I could have done better, if a fix is capable with my current ship, or setup, or tactics, and I work to improve it.
In Turby's case, a couple of its members just got shown the rough edge of the sword, given the proberbial floor mopping, etc; and instead of tactically analyzing why they lost, they whined about it to the leadership and someone else from Turby gets kicked? Kind of brings up other questions..
Why did so many people from Turby leave in the first place? Why wasn't its leadership working to achieve harmony in the ranks?
And if we stretch this to the end, here's a question: Even if Jacko was pirating your own members...what's wrong with that? You're pirates and griefers. What do you expect? Folks who play to gank underfit, underskilled, overmatched players so they can laugh and wave about their epeen and killboard majesty are going to somehow have a "personal moral code" that applies to their little communal gathering?
Look about you and learn from your compatriots. Ginger Magician...Miz Cenuij...that's a good start. If your corp is TRYING to recruit player killers and pew-pew artists, don't whine when you get what you asked for.
Sorry - I'm not a ranter, but the Turby I seem to remember seems to have degenerated into some baby whiners.
Then again...the tiller I remember has been replaced by a 12 year old with an overlarge need for attention.
And Ginger is permabanned. And moo is gone. And Infestation seems to think they own Tama now...but strategically lose loss kill-mails. =p
I have no idea what's happened to the pirate community. Seems rather less yarrish anymore. :(
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Mazzy Star
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.07.02 18:21:00 -
[33]
 Originally by: Damien Smith
Originally by: Mazzy Star
Damien: hey jacko whats up? We just got done pwning two of your corp mates.
Jacko: cool can I get a gang invite?
Let's get it right: Jacko was killing mission runners with me several hours after I killed those two turby members. Members that I wouldn't be killing if turby hadn't made a big deal of setting us -10 and saying they'd kill us if we came back to placid. Of course we're going to come back to placid and cause trouble when we hear something like that.
Several hours or otherwise... makes no difference. He was still running with a group that had just killed a couple turby members. This is unacceptable in most corps and Turby is no different.
Originally by: Damien Smith
Originally by: Steve Holt
so why didn't you kill jacko for being turby?
Because he's my friend in rl. I (and the rest of Sybrite) also refused to engage Adie, Jimmy, etc because they're cool too. The two people I killed were new turby recruits, brought in to fill the gap that the mass turby exodus left. They were fair game. If you want to cause the most damage to a corp you don't do it by attacking their strongest members do you? You do it by attacking the newer members who'll whine about not being able to pirate properly for fear of being ganked.
Lol so you're out to ruin turby... and you guys wonder why I don't like you. You were set to -10 because of the utter bull**** your ceo was spreading... like hmm oh you guys should join sybrite cause tribs is teh evil mean ceo that is just using you guys bla bla.
Congrats though... you succeeded in causing some damage. Who knows, if you guys keep it up you might actually make Turby disband... there's something to be proud of. At least it gives all you bored mother******* something to do.
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Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.02 18:22:00 -
[34]
Ah...good to see that Veto at least is still around.
=)
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jimmyjam
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.07.02 18:24:00 -
[35]
Originally by: DarkElf
mmmmmm interesting. So who's left in Turby then? tribal on his own
DE
Me and some homies.
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.02 18:32:00 -
[36]
Edited by: DarkElf on 02/07/2007 18:31:03
Originally by: jimmyjam
Originally by: DarkElf
mmmmmm interesting. So who's left in Turby then? tribal on his own
DE
Me and some homies.
ah jimmy is still there so it's all good
And yeah Curzon Veto aint goin anywhere 
DE
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Mazzy Star
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.07.02 18:32:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Curzon Dax
I don't know the whole story (very likely) but let me get this straight:
1. Buncha guys from Turby leave.
2. Bad blood exists between entrenched leadership and members who left.
3. Members who left (at least two of them) are hunting Turby.
4. A firefight happens, ex-Turby cleans the floor with current Turby.
5. Director / CEO / leadership / someone kicks another Turby member for being friends with these guys.
Ok, with all that said, here's what I see: The folks who left Turby seem to be more combat capable than those still in Turby. Why is Turby's leadership angry that their members got a lesson in PvP? I read something about "new" Turby recruits. I don't know if that is truth or propoganda, but every time I lose a fight, I think about exactly what happened, what I could have done better, if a fix is capable with my current ship, or setup, or tactics, and I work to improve it.
In Turby's case, a couple of its members just got shown the rough edge of the sword, given the proberbial floor mopping, etc; and instead of tactically analyzing why they lost, they whined about it to the leadership and someone else from Turby gets kicked? Kind of brings up other questions..
Why did so many people from Turby leave in the first place? Why wasn't its leadership working to achieve harmony in the ranks?
And if we stretch this to the end, here's a question: Even if Jacko was pirating your own members...what's wrong with that? You're pirates and griefers. What do you expect? Folks who play to gank underfit, underskilled, overmatched players so they can laugh and wave about their epeen and killboard majesty are going to somehow have a "personal moral code" that applies to their little communal gathering?
Look about you and learn from your compatriots. Ginger Magician...Miz Cenuij...that's a good start. If your corp is TRYING to recruit player killers and pew-pew artists, don't whine when you get what you asked for.
Sorry - I'm not a ranter, but the Turby I seem to remember seems to have degenerated into some baby whiners.
Then again...the tiller I remember has been replaced by a 12 year old with an overlarge need for attention.
And Ginger is permabanned. And moo is gone. And Infestation seems to think they own Tama now...but strategically lose loss kill-mails. =p
I have no idea what's happened to the pirate community. Seems rather less yarrish anymore. :(
Heh, even the people that hate me might agree that you don know what you're talking about mate.
What is degenerate about this situation is that a handful of people are trying to make it seem common place for a corp member to run around with people that kill his own corp mates. We didn't whine about it... we kicked the dude that did it and then HE made a thread about it.
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Damien Smith
Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.02 18:45:00 -
[38]
Edited by: Damien Smith on 02/07/2007 18:47:07
Originally by: Curzon Dax
I don't know the whole story (very likely) but let me get this straight:
1. Buncha guys from Turby leave.
2. Bad blood exists between entrenched leadership and members who left.
3. Members who left (at least two of them) are hunting Turby.
4. A firefight happens, ex-Turby cleans the floor with current Turby.
5. Director / CEO / leadership / someone kicks another Turby member for being friends with these guys.
Yeah, more or less.
Originally by: Curzon Dax
Ok, with all that said, here's what I see: The folks who left Turby seem to be more combat capable than those still in Turby.
I'd say equally capable.
Originally by: Curzon Dax
instead of tactically analyzing why they lost, they whined about it to the leadership and someone else from Turby gets kicked? Kind of brings up other questions..
The main issue in this whole thing is between the current CEO and one Director of turbulent, and two members (Crash003 and Lilith Thynin) of Sybrite Inc. The two Sybrite members were the first two to leave Turbulent and form their own corp but were still friendly and flying alongside Turby at that time. The whole situation escalated from that point. The two Turby members killed logged off shortly after being killed and weren't on when Jacko was kicked. The decision to kick Jacko was made from killboard evidence alone.
Originally by: Curzon Dax
Why did so many people from Turby leave in the first place? Why wasn't its leadership working to achieve harmony in the ranks?
The basic story is:
Crash and Lilith left to create Sybrite because of personal issues between them and the Turby leadership. At some point after Sybrite was created another Turby member left Turby and joined Sybrite, leading to accusations that Sybrite was poaching members from Turby in an attempt to destroy Turby from the inside.
I had taken some time away from Turby (at that time based in lonetrek) to join Sybrite in causing trouble in Aridia/Khanid alongside The League of Legitimate Nigerian Businessmen. This was because I was bored of Turby inactivity, and the fact that camping to get a corp Nyx was getting pretty tiresome. I was given an ultamatum: break off all contact with Sybrite or leave Turby. Objecting to being dictated to who I could and couldn't fly with I left Turby. Bear in mind Turby hadn't yet declared Sybrite hostile at that time.
Shortly after that, Jacko joined Sybrite, but then decided to give Turby another try and try and rebuild that Turby had lost.
At around the time time Turby set Sybrite to -10 and said they would be hunted down should they ever return to Placid
After spending time in Arida/Khanid Sybrite decide to return to Placid, knowing that Turbulent (who napped with The Movement to make up for their number shortfalls) would be actively hunting us.
I spot two of the newer Turby members camping a gate, so with my trusty tackle slave, Shigsy, I engage and kill them. Later that day is when me and Jacko team up to probe missioners as there was only Jacko on out of the whole of Turby.
A Turby director notices killmails with both me and Jacko on and removes Jacko's roles.
And that's pretty much where we are today.
Originally by: Curzon Dax
Even if Jacko was pirating your own members...what's wrong with that? You're pirates and griefers. What do you expect?
Jacko made it clear he would have no part in helping us engage Turby while he was still a part of the corp. Also we'd never ask him to.
Edit: Shpellingz
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Mazzy Star
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.07.02 18:50:00 -
[39]
That is actually pretty accurate. I don't think we ever proclaimed that we'd 'hunt' sybrite though. We just set negative... which is same difference I suppose.
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TribalBleb
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.07.02 19:28:00 -
[40]
Jacko, people get kicked out of corps every day. Like i told you yesterday, you got kicked for a very good reason and there is no point spamming threads about it.
Get over it, sybrite do your thing and we will do ours.
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ian666
Minmatar
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.02 19:31:00 -
[41]
Edited by: ian666 on 02/07/2007 19:30:11
Originally by: Mazzy Star
That is actually pretty accurate. I don't think we ever proclaimed that we'd 'hunt' sybrite though. We just set negative... which is same difference I suppose.
ROFL, you mean you would if you had anyone left in Turby to hunt them with? LMFAO this is <racking me up.
I mean look even the Bleb is posting on the forums now to try and keep them alive.
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TheJacko
Gallente
Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.02 19:33:00 -
[42]
Originally by: TribalBleb
Jacko, people get kicked out of corps every day. Like i told you yesterday, you got kicked for a very good reason and there is no point spamming threads about it.
Get over it, sybrite do your thing and we will do ours.
tribs if you noticed my 1st post was a e-peen boost post for my new corp i didnt smack turby.
read the op 1st noob
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Belhorn Battlebeard
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.02 19:43:00 -
[43]
OMG Tribal is desperately trying to cling onto his lickle corp, aaaaaw bless!
It makes me laugh that Turby members (one in particular) moan about getting pwned, despite who was involved you're just being a baby and whining about losing a fight.
GET OVER IT Mazzy!
Oh, and hopefully there will be more pwning to come....
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Mazzy Star
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.07.02 19:48:00 -
[44]
ok give me a sec... ok... I .... ok I'm over it.
wait... what am I suppose to get over again? I've not posted any whine threads my belligerent friend. Someone cut this guy off... he's had too much to drink I fear.
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TribalBleb
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.07.02 19:49:00 -
[45]
Originally by: TheJacko
Originally by: TribalBleb
Jacko, people get kicked out of corps every day. Like i told you yesterday, you got kicked for a very good reason and there is no point spamming threads about it.
Get over it, sybrite do your thing and we will do ours.
tribs if you noticed my 1st post was a e-peen boost post for my new corp i didnt smack turby.
read the op 1st noob
I didn't say you were smacking i said you created a thread about it.
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Belhorn Battlebeard
Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.02 19:56:00 -
[46]
and look, it's 2 pages long already - that's a page for every Turby member
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TheJacko
Gallente
Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.02 19:56:00 -
[47]
Edited by: TheJacko on 02/07/2007 19:55:09
Originally by: TribalBleb
Originally by: TheJacko
Originally by: TribalBleb
Jacko, people get kicked out of corps every day. Like i told you yesterday, you got kicked for a very good reason and there is no point spamming threads about it.
Get over it, sybrite do your thing and we will do ours.
tribs if you noticed my 1st post was a e-peen boost post for my new corp i didnt smack turby.
read the op 1st noob
I didn't say you were smacking i said you created a thread about it.
oh im sorry i cant let everyone know im in a new corp and boost my new corps e-peen?? hmmm you aint my ceo anymore m8 ill carry on if i want to
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Steve Holt
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.07.02 20:33:00 -
[48]
If everyone posts a thread when they join a new corp this forum would be flooded with little e-peens flexing. Its not needed you acomplished only what i beileve yo uset out to do witch was one again to go at it with mazzy but in a more public domain to lessen Turbys popularity.
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Belhorn Battlebeard
Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.02 20:40:00 -
[49]
Dam dude did you swallow a dictionary?
You do know that being a new Turby member, you don't need to brown-nose your CEO don't ya? You'll be the only member left eventually which automatically makes you director
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Takahashi Arran
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.02 20:47:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Steve Holt
Does that make me your target 
oi get rid of your cora sig turby scum 
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Steve Holt
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:42:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Takahashi Arran
Originally by: Steve Holt
Does that make me your target
oi get rid of your cora sig turby scum
I like the sig inzi made for me and if we tries to delete it from the Cora folder i have it saved on hardrive
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Investigador
Caldari
Hator inc
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Posted - 2007.07.03 00:40:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Curzon Dax
4. A firefight happens, ex-Turby cleans the floor with current Turby.
5. Director / CEO / leadership / someone kicks another Turby member for being friends with these guys.
4.bis Turby members smacktalk Jacko on Iges on Saturday 30 June, while this humble mission runner was doing his thing, keeping an eye on local and asking himself why there were so many Turby members on local and whether he should leave the system before they stoped arguing and decided to kill someone nearby.
Yeah, so, I was witness to a poor display of un-stylish smacktalk. Jacko, I'm amazed you didn't leave Turby before.
Oh, wait, you left, but gave them a second opportunity. Looks like they screwed the opportunity:
[ 2007.06.30 23:24:41 ] ******[turby member] > you pathetic group of butt buddies always get tired of everything you do
That was one of the softest things said. TribalBeB (the CEO?) was also there and didn't call off the insults, (which IMHO I think he should have done, but maybe I don't understand because I'm not a piwate)
By the time I was leaving system, they were still talking and they had started making references to not being able to have/keep a RL girlfriend . Maybe I should have stayed longer, but I am not *that* interested on low-level smacktalking.
Originally by: Curzon Dax
Why did so many people from Turby leave in the first place? Why wasn't its leadership working to achieve harmony in the ranks?
As said above, the CEO was on local, but didn't stop the smack.
Originally by: Curzon Dax
And if we stretch this to the end, here's a question: Even if Jacko was pirating your own members...what's wrong with that? You're pirates and griefers. What do you expect? Folks who play to gank underfit, underskilled, overmatched players so they can laugh and wave about their epeen and killboard majesty are going to somehow have a "personal moral code" that applies to their little communal gathering?
Looks like there were some references to a joke by lilith about "tribs" trying to get a mothership so he could join Snowy and accusations by a turby member that this was not a joke but a malicious rumor that Jacko had believed as if he was a 10 years old (there is more to this, but I am not going to paraphrase the whole convo!).
There were also acussations of stealing members from Turby, and accusations of envy.
[ 2007.06.30 23:23:39 ] TheJacko > then lilith and crash 003 head to a little place on the map
(...)
[ 2007.06.30 23:23:49 ] TheJacko > and because a couple of turby members went there aswell
[ 2007.06.30 23:23:51 ] TheJacko > its omg
[ 2007.06.30 23:23:56 ] TheJacko > you stealing our corp members
[ 2007.06.30 23:23:58 ] TheJacko > by ******
[ 2007.06.30 23:24:01 ] ****** > he was
[ 2007.06.30 23:24:01 ] TheJacko > no
[ 2007.06.30 23:24:11 ] ****** > spreading rumors and lies about where our corp was headed
[ 2007.06.30 23:24:13 ] TheJacko > we are bored of tama cried the guys that went to this little place
[ 2007.06.30 23:24:20 ] ****** > so he can TRY to be a ceo of his own corp
Another highlith (not related to smacktalk, but interesting to see how stubborn piwates can be  ):
[ 2007.06.30 23:33:53 ] crash003 > i knew that when tribs told me to stay out of placid or i would die.. that i was going to placid to see what would happen if i did
Hum, yeah, so you already know. I have to go more frequently to low sec  but try to keep the smack a bit more educated. There are other people reading local, ya know.
This post has been rated 100% condescent by me.
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Dr Slice
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.07.03 01:03:00 -
[53]
Tired of constant scrubbing? Tired of back-breaking labor using generic cleaning products?
The answer is Sybrite! Now with twice the cleaning power!! Available in three scents, along with the technologically advanced multi-setting spray nozzle!
Sorry, couldn't resist 
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kthnxbye
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Posted - 2007.07.03 03:41:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Investigador
Originally by: Curzon Dax
4. A firefight happens, ex-Turby cleans the floor with current Turby.
5. Director / CEO / leadership / someone kicks another Turby member for being friends with these guys.
4.bis Turby members smacktalk Jacko on Iges on Saturday 30 June, while this humble mission runner was doing his thing, keeping an eye on local and asking himself why there were so many Turby members on local and whether he should leave the system before they stoped arguing and decided to kill someone nearby.
Yeah, so, I was witness to a poor display of un-stylish smacktalk. Jacko, I'm amazed you didn't leave Turby before.
Oh, wait, you left, but gave them a second opportunity. Looks like they screwed the opportunity:
[ 2007.06.30 23:24:41 ] ******[turby member] > you pathetic group of butt buddies always get tired of everything you do
That was one of the softest things said. TribalBeB (the CEO?) was also there and didn't call off the insults, (which IMHO I think he should have done, but maybe I don't understand because I'm not a piwate)
By the time I was leaving system, they were still talking and they had started making references to not being able to have/keep a RL girlfriend . Maybe I should have stayed longer, but I am not *that* interested on low-level smacktalking.
when stated:
2007.06.30 23:30
so much for having a policy on smacking in local..
in a mail to tribalbleb.. a breif answer was given:
2007.06.30 23:32
shut up dude, we dont have that rule anymore.
hope this helps in understanding why the CEO doesnt do anything about the smack, its cause he supports it
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MonwrathDisortium
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.03 03:44:00 -
[55]
want drama, this thread delivers 9/10
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crash003
Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.03 03:44:00 -
[56]
posted with alt.. bah... im not much of a forum warrior
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Kyozoku
Mutiny.
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Posted - 2007.07.03 04:43:00 -
[57]
Go back to bed turby and turby2.
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TheJacko
Gallente
Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.03 11:31:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Kyozoku
Go back to bed turby and turby2.
who are you? how about if you have nothing to say about the thred you just stay away? 
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Black Harbinger
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Posted - 2007.07.03 12:57:00 -
[59]
turby is good ... its just got better now that jacko and partly damien has left. cant stand playas that loose there ship and whine/sulk all day about loosing it and blame there lose on other people to express their anger . thug on turby!
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.07.03 14:15:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Dr Slice
Tired of constant scrubbing? Tired of back-breaking labor using generic cleaning products?
The answer is Sybrite! Now with twice the cleaning power!! Available in three scents, along with the technologically advanced multi-setting spray nozzle!
Sorry, couldn't resist
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