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LordRene
Amarr
Grettistak
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Posted - 2007.07.02 12:43:00 -
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is there any more work plan for helping Amarr
Laser Activation cost is to High on large Guns
How about reworking are dmg type to thermal em damage
be nice have a Battleship with a Drone Bonus
3 Battleship that need better role
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LordRene
Amarr
Grettistak
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Posted - 2007.07.02 13:23:00 -
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see no one Replies becasue they all stop playing Amarr :( lol
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Perry
Amarr
The X-Trading Company
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.07.02 20:08:00 -
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We switched to Minmatar or Gallente when we read the revII patch notes.
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Kali 3.0 Patchnotes: Amarr Oompf!
-Armageddon: +1 Missile Slot
-Maller: Autocannon RoF Bonus
-Apocalypse: 5% Mining Bonus
-Zealot: +10% more golden hull |
Morris Falter
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.07.03 07:01:00 -
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 Originally by: Perry
We switched to Minmatar or Gallente when we read the revII patch notes.
So true.
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Cammulos
Shadow Of The Light
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.07.03 11:31:00 -
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How about a Bonus to armor shine? I'd settle for my ships ability to keep people from locking on solely due to their lack to directly look at my shiny ships hull. 
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Lord Thalic
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.07.03 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Thread Title
Amarr need more
They hardly got anything that make them competative with the other races/ships in rev2. 
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Uchuu
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Posted - 2007.07.03 17:42:00 -
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Not true, amarr got 25% bonus to all pulse lasers and lowered the pg req to med beam lasers.
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Deva Blackfire
Citadel of dark arts
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Posted - 2007.07.03 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Uchuu
Not true, amarr got 25% bonus to all pulse lasers and lowered the pg req to med beam lasers.
And kick in the nuts with EANM nerf (yay geddon! NOT).
Good i trained ***lente.
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Kirov VIII
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Posted - 2007.07.03 18:41:00 -
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I have already train caldari because you can't play with amarr only ... I keep the transport ship, inty for travel and 2 ships for 2 very very specific thing !
I go train minmatar for have some fun with a gun race and very good agility/speed :)
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Lord Thalic
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.07.03 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Uchuu
Edited by: Uchuu on 03/07/2007 18:10:31
Not true, amarr got 25% bonus to all pulse lasers and lowered the pg req to med beam lasers.
Edit: Whoops, meant 25% to TRACKING of pulse lasers.
It was merely a fix than a boost. The Major issues with Amarr are still not solved. If you're in doubt just check the plenty of threads regarding how Amarr's problems versus other races.
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Mari Onette
Amarr
Gottland Production Transport Mines
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Posted - 2007.07.03 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Deva Blackfire
And kick in the nuts with EANM nerf (yay geddon! NOT).
Good i trained ***lente.
Amarr Navy energized adaptive nanon membrains.
look em up.
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I am in blood! Stepp'd in so far that, should I wade no more, it would be as tedious as going over.
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LordRene
Amarr
Grettistak
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Posted - 2007.07.03 20:06:00 -
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Love to see Amarr get real boost
when are we going see this revamp ?
cant you guys give some info on any plan you got
Royal Amarr for there looks :)
Noob in local
hi there Rene
hello bob
bob . you look cool
rene. thx
bob. wot role do you do in that bs
rene well i tank suff
bob. is that all you can do
rene. well if use all 8 guns i cant tank for so long becasue of my caps so yes my only role is to tank
bob. how about Electronic Warfare bs role
rene. you are jokeing with mid slot we got
bob. how about useing Drone
rene. you seen how much room i got here :(
bob. maybe your better of skilling new race
rene. wot no way ccp said there going fix me
bob. but when
rene. hmmmmmmmmm ask ccp 
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Deva Blackfire
Citadel of dark arts
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Posted - 2007.07.04 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Mari Onette
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
And kick in the nuts with EANM nerf (yay geddon! NOT).
Good i trained ***lente.
Amarr Navy energized adaptive nanon membrains.
look em up.
Id have to run missions for half a year to get required tags :S And not like im mission ho myself (run 1-2 odd when im bored but dont like it).
Anyways eos pwns :)
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Death Kill
Caldari
direkte
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Posted - 2007.07.04 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Mari Onette
Amarr Navy energized adaptive nanon membrains.
look em up.
Ahhh faction hardners to solve cpu problems.
Your brain, go find it
Originally by: myself
The Amarr templar joke is a joke stupid people can laugh at. Its the joke any dumb person can laugh at.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar
Guardians of the Dawn
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.04 14:28:00 -
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Adjust ammar cap and laser cap usage, so the laser usage bonus becoems non needed. Change the bonus into a 5%(maybe 7.5%, but not 10% it would be simply UBER) armor ammount bonus.
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |
Lord Thalic
Amarr
The Fist of Kane
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Posted - 2007.07.04 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon
Adjust ammar cap and laser cap usage, so the laser usage bonus becoems non needed. Change the bonus into a 5%(maybe 7.5%, but not 10% it would be simply UBER) armor ammount bonus.
Bingo!
Then add explosion crystals.
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Kirov VIII
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Posted - 2007.07.09 17:04:00 -
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Still waiting for the rev2 amarr boost !!!
You have some time before rev3 :P
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LordRene
Amarr
Grettistak
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Posted - 2007.07.09 18:15:00 -
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Edited by: LordRene on 09/07/2007 18:14:57
Give me the Code i will fix it.
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ghosttr
Amarr
ARK-CORP
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.09 19:20:00 -
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The slight fixes they made didnt do much, and the eanm nerf just nerfed half of my amarr setups (vengeance, punisher, geddon, maller, RIP )
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Do not read this thread!!!
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Lance Fighter
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Posted - 2007.07.09 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: ghosttr
The slight fixes they made didnt do much, and the eanm nerf just nerfed half of my amarr setups (vengeance, punisher, geddon, maller, RIP)
A 'refuge' adaptive nano plate thingie is better than t1 
And it has ZERO cpu use. only like 4 mill.
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LordRene
Amarr
Grettistak
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Posted - 2007.07.09 22:13:00 -
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Care more about my caps and dmg type we do
like see more mids slots lower fixing on beams boost to dmg or rework are dmg type
more drone bay room to list go on :)
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ghosttr
Amarr
ARK-CORP
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.09 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Lance Fighter
Originally by: ghosttr
The slight fixes they made didnt do much, and the eanm nerf just nerfed half of my amarr setups (vengeance, punisher, geddon, maller, RIP)
A 'refuge' adaptive nano plate thingie is better than t1
And it has ZERO cpu use. only like 4 mill.
But the lack of the extra 5 percent on your tank can make a big difference.
The eanm nerf hurt amarr setups more than any other race. If they were looking to reduce the EM resists of other races they should have just dropped the base em resist on other races. (Amarr are supposed to have the highest resistances anyways right)
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Do not read this thread!!!
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Sadist
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.07.10 02:14:00 -
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Amarr are fine. Pulse lasers are already the best close range weapon system after the tracking boost. If you're too stupid to understand why, you probably aren't qualified to make any judgments on balance anyway.
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LordRene
Amarr
Grettistak
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Posted - 2007.07.10 05:25:00 -
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LOL i skill t2 pluse long time ago you think we do best close range dmg, you got be jokeing 80% ship got good Em res anyway when you need fix 3 cap rig and two cap in mid run your guns at same time useing your Armor rep plz .
how long think we last if we use Mwd on then to keep in range ?
come back in year time when you skill for Amarr your see
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Kirov VIII
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Posted - 2007.07.10 05:45:00 -
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Quote:
Amarr are fine. Pulse lasers are already the best close range weapon system after the tracking boost.
LOl you are a amarr is sure lol
The BEST CLOSE RANGE GUN LoooooL
You have already fly a simple amarr frigate or inty ?
You have try to kill a taranis with a crusader or with a punisher lol
Yes it's really the VERY BEST close range weapon, less tracking weapon, more cap usage and less damage but yes it's the best if you watch since the end :P
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr
Riggers Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.10 07:14:00 -
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Edited by: Jaketh Ivanes on 10/07/2007 07:14:45
There aren't no problem with Amarr. There is a problem with Omni tanking (still, it seems).
Fix omni Armor tanking and Amarr are good again. Suggestions below, also dumb ones:
1) Increase the bonus reduction (the closer you get to 100%, the less bonus you get from modules), so it is harder to get above 80% resist.
2) Increase the EM damage to compensate a bit.
3) Reduce all other races damage modifiers so we can be the king of tanking.
4) Increase laser's damage modifier to compensate.
5) Remove ENAM (all versions of it) from the game.
6) Remove armor compensation skills.
7) Increase ROF of lasers to compensate.
Don't give Amarr a big drone ship, thats for the gallente race.
Don't give us explosive crystals, multiple damage type ammo are a Minmatar thing.
Don't give us a missile boat, that is for the Caldari
Don't remove the 10% cap bonus to laser, THAT is an Amarr thing.
I want each race to have a uniqueness besides the look of their ships.
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Eleana Tomelac
Gallente
Defcon One
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.10 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes
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I want each race to have a uniqueness besides the look of their ships.
me too!
1) it's called stacking nerf, also, minmatar T2 ships may have 92.5% EM on armor, should we take them their AS/HAS resistance bonus off?
2) this kills the shield tankers who are not T2 minmatar <- I would say take from EM and add to thermal
3) it's not modifying only your tanks, but it's easier to increase the amarr multipliers, it should be calculated by raw DPS per range, and the damage type modified too, then it should be better.
4) mostly what I have said in 3. look in 2
5) remove any 'adaptive' stuff, remove invulnerability fields too? I don't think items everyone use can be removed from the game. It's the damn lasers that need a fix!
6) remove shield compensation? (you can't gimp armor tanks for one broken thing, if you take that away, those go away too) have we spent so many days on that for nothing? no, you can't remove skills that have been used for a long time from the game. Also, many people don't train much the EM compensation, there's no point in going lvl 5 compensation for EM!
7) look raw DPS and compare, I think people at CCP already make graphs for such questions. But their graphs were raw DPS and never 'DPS against racial armor' (caldari has higher thermal and minmatar higher EM, amarr has higher explosive, all compared to gallente armor I use) or 'DPS against shield' (seems like all shields are the same) to balance it.
finally, all you want is the EM damage to be more effective, then all you need is it ont being EM damage, but thermal damage and maybe a bit buff in raw DPS (but one thing at time. When amarr can do close to full therm damage with lasers, we will check if it is needed).
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