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sophisticatedlimabean Gallente FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.02 20:37:00 - [1] Ok im a -10 pirate and mt thread in witch i was lookin for a gang kinda turned into a moral debate about noobie/piracy/low sec killing. Any way id realy like ppl's real opinion about piracy cos if i gank a hauler in 0.0 nobody seems to care but a hauler in low sec causes such a fuss. And to my mind both are for profit, like miners mine, ratters rat, pvpers pop others players to make iskies. My pirate lfg thread ius the flamer lol Please don't turn this into a flamer its a honest thread for honest opinions on both side of the fence.
tiller kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.07.02 20:39:00 - [2] the 'fuss' it creates is half the fun Kleptomaniacs are recruiting evildoers. Channel KLEPTO for info.
Plaetean Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2007.07.02 20:58:00 - [3] LFG ----- HSY are recruiting
SloBones Sicarri Covenant	Posted - 2007.07.02 21:03:00 - [4] I think the haulers in 0.0 know the dangers and understand that they could be popped at any time. As for low sec everyone thinks it's safe in low sec and when a hauler get popped an angel loses it's wings and what not. For some reason the jump from 0.0 to 0.1 makes the hauler pilots care just that much more.
Moha Mend	Posted - 2007.07.02 21:13:00 - [5] Honest opinion with no feelings? Piracy is unbalanced. See, if you're ridding your bike in RL and all of the sudden Bill Gates, Donald Trump and George Soros block the street with their audis and gold laser MGs and steal your money for lunch, wouldn't you say that something is wrong? How can this be profitable? If it's for fun, well, it must be fun kill dozens of noobs/carebears, but it isn't fun to kill well-skilled players? So why there is so much pirates and so few bonty hunters? And last -- and that's because I'm leaving Eve -- there is no chance for ppl with huge love for this game but few time to play it. To escape from the ammount of pirates in Eve lately it's been impossible to play. If a -10 pirate want to sell stolen things all he needs is an dumb alt. If the pirate want to play carebear, he needs an average alt. If he wants to collect his own bounty, all he needs is an alt. The game is unbalanced, that's all. No flame. Look and you see for yourself. I love this game, I love the freedom to do anything in it, with no rules. But I think I should have a better chance to play it, run lvl 3 or 4 missions and to trade, even if I only have 5 hours per week. But 5 hours per week are not enough to run missions and avoid pirates in 0.4. They are just too many, too often. So, after 12 months, I'm quiting. No flame.
Speed Devil Caldari Mean Machines	Posted - 2007.07.02 21:38:00 - [6] Originally by: Moha Mend Honest opinion with no feelings? Piracy is unbalanced. See, if you're ridding your bike in RL and all of the sudden Bill Gates, Donald Trump and George Soros block the street with their audis and gold laser MGs and steal your money for lunch, wouldn't you say that something is wrong? How can this be profitable? If it's for fun, well, it must be fun kill dozens of noobs/carebears, but it isn't fun to kill well-skilled players? So why there is so much pirates and so few bonty hunters? And last -- and that's because I'm leaving Eve -- there is no chance for ppl with huge love for this game but few time to play it. To escape from the ammount of pirates in Eve lately it's been impossible to play. If a -10 pirate want to sell stolen things all he needs is an dumb alt. If the pirate want to play carebear, he needs an average alt. If he wants to collect his own bounty, all he needs is an alt. The game is unbalanced, that's all. No flame. Look and you see for yourself. I love this game, I love the freedom to do anything in it, with no rules. But I think I should have a better chance to play it, run lvl 3 or 4 missions and to trade, even if I only have 5 hours per week. But 5 hours per week are not enough to run missions and avoid pirates in 0.4. They are just too many, too often. So, after 12 months, I'm quiting. No flame. can i have your stuff and isk? _______________________________ victim > WTH was that for? Speed Devil > hihihi =D victim > Dumbass victim > Suicided on me some guy > to much asses think that is funny
Luc Ferros	Posted - 2007.07.02 21:39:00 - [7] "Honest opinion with no feelings? Piracy is unbalanced. See, if you're ridding your bike in RL and all of the sudden Bill Gates, Donald Trump and George Soros block the street with their audis and gold laser MGs and steal your money for lunch, wouldn't you say that something is wrong? How can this be profitable?" There was a big sign that said you were going down a street that took you to Bill Gates, Donald Trump, and George Soros, aka....0.1-0.4 next system. If it's for fun, well, it must be fun kill dozens of noobs/carebears, but it isn't fun to kill well-skilled players? So why there is so much* pirates and so few bonty hunters?* [b]The fun part is when we come up against well skilled players, its not our fault people suck or are not prepared when they come into lowsec. And last -- and that's because I'm leaving Eve -- there is no chance for ppl with huge love for this game but few time to play it. To escape from the ammount of pirates in Eve lately it's been impossible to play. [b]Either adapt or die. Just because you can't be a movie star (if thats your thing) doesn't mean you kill yourself. Either settle for what you have, or get your hands dirty and FIGHT for it! If a -10 pirate want to sell stolen things all he needs is an dumb alt. If the pirate want to play carebear, he needs an average alt. If he wants to collect his own bounty, all he needs is an alt. The game is unbalanced, that's all. No flame. Look and you see for yourself. I don't want you to consider this a flame, but only people who keep getting beat say the word 'nurf'. Besides, if you can't beat'em, JOIN THEM![/b] I love this game, I love the freedom to do anything in it, with no rules. But I think I should have a better chance to play it, run lvl 3 or 4 missions and to trade, even if I only have 5 hours per week. But 5 hours per week are not enough to run missions and avoid pirates in 0.4. They are just too many, too often. So, after 12 months, I'm quiting. No flame.[/b]
dragonssbane Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.07.02 21:55:00 - [8] The reason there is much more fuss over loosing ships in lo sec is because its closer to home and it was most likely a care bear. A care bear that would have a seizure if the thought of going into a .2 system, would have a hard time moving out to 0.0, and you would not see many of them out there.
Moha Mend	Posted - 2007.07.02 21:55:00 - [9] Edited by: Moha Mend on 02/07/2007 21:56:02 The guy said no flame and I'll keep like this, inspite of yours yarrs... :) I've played for twelve months, got podded 5 times I think. The first 3 times I didn't even know someone could scramble your egg :) But, unfortunately, in the very beginning I decided to follow the science/industry path (which I regret very much since it is a Pirates game out there). So, I need to run missions for Boundless, wishing someday I can research with the lvl 5 R&D. Since I'm not lucky, the lvl 3 and lvl 4 adm agents are in Evati 0.4. I need to go there get and complete the missions. Due to the lack of playing time, I have no good ship, no good combat skills, no good fit, no good experience. But you see, CCP makes me go into 0.4, without the proper training, if I want to get better standing, rewards and etc. And when I avoid a pirate, or get ship destroyed, and even the times I got podded, I haven't learn nothing at all, I'm just the stupid noob carebear which doesn't have combat experience and doesn't keep good safe actions that you in forum keep talking about :) This time, taking the chance of the thread, maybe some pirate can really add something which makes sense in the discussion, instead of the usual smack talk. --- The first guy that asked for my stuff, contact me in game, I have just one more month in the game.
Warrio Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.02 21:56:00 - [10] Edited by: Warrio on 02/07/2007 21:57:56 Piracy is as balanced as combat is, which at the moment is more or less well balanced. If your leaving the game make no mistake about it, nobody cares and nor should they. Another target will come along to take your place and they will die just as easily as you no doubt did. However I don't know of a single pirate or carebear who wouldn't agree that the bounty system is rubbish and badly needs to be reworked. As for the reason for leaving often you can find an agent of a different corporation who will give you storyline missions for Boundless Creations that will allow you to increase your standing with Boundless quite quickly. But that would have required you to think outside the box wouldn't it? Sig removed due to being too freaking awsome. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Deckard Cain

Moha Mend	Posted - 2007.07.02 22:03:00 - [11] Originally by: Warrio Piracy is as balanced as combat is, which at the moment is more or less well balanced. Save that for later... Originally by: Warrio If your leaving the game make no mistake about it, nobody cares and nor should they. Another target will come along to take your place and they will die just as easily as you no doubt did. Why would you Mr Deep Core Mining? :) I hope the new targets are really more stupid to make things funnier for you. But let me think. I'm not sure if I care you don't care I'm leaving... :P Originally by: Warrio However I don't know of a single pirate or carebear who wouldn't agree that the bounty system is rubbish and badly needs to be reworked. Well, this is not exactly making sense with you said up there.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.02 22:16:00 - [12] keep it comin guys this is interesting and kudos on the non-mental/nutjob hair pulling and posting reasonable and well presented responces.
JoeT Amarr Short Attention Span Nex Eternus	Posted - 2007.07.02 22:31:00 - [13] i support it :) back to -10 for me. 4th time for the win :D
Amanda Shadowsword Caldari kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.07.02 22:40:00 - [14] Just screw what others say and do what you want, its your game =================================
dragonssbane Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.07.02 23:01:00 - [15] Originally by: Moha Mend Edited by: Moha Mend on 02/07/2007 21:56:02 The guy said no flame and I'll keep like this, inspite of yours yarrs... :) I've played for twelve months, got podded 5 times I think. The first 3 times I didn't even know someone could scramble your egg :) But, unfortunately, in the very beginning I decided to follow the science/industry path (which I regret very much since it is a Pirates game out there). So, I need to run missions for Boundless, wishing someday I can research with the lvl 5 R&D. Since I'm not lucky, the lvl 3 and lvl 4 adm agents are in Evati 0.4. I need to go there get and complete the missions. Due to the lack of playing time, I have no good ship, no good combat skills, no good fit, no good experience. But you see, CCP makes me go into 0.4, without the proper training, if I want to get better standing, rewards and etc. And when I avoid a pirate, or get ship destroyed, and even the times I got podded, I haven't learn nothing at all, I'm just the stupid noob carebear which doesn't have combat experience and doesn't keep good safe actions that you in forum keep talking about :) This time, taking the chance of the thread, maybe some pirate can really add something which makes sense in the discussion, instead of the usual smack talk. --- The first guy that asked for my stuff, contact me in game, I have just one more month in the game. Dude I have played this game before Exodus was even in sight. I started out with what 100-200k SP's? And yes I studied up on science industry so on and so on. I am now a blend of pirate, rogue, industrialist, soldier, mad scientist..you get the picture. Not being trained to face things out in .4 space and blaming CCP for you not having the skills? That makes no sense. Not having good ships yada yada because your time is limited...uh I have guy in 0.0 space that can only play like once or twice a month...and he does just fine. I have guys on my squad that pew pew with me has been playing this game for 6 months...and one of the pubies is the head of R&D. He has some decent kills btw. If you are leaving I am sorry. But the game is not supposed to hand you things on a silver platter. All the answers are not to be provided for you. You might look into a corp...or at least another one. I think you have been running this game a lone. That might be your biggest problem.
Commander Thrawn Fluffy Rabbit Killers	Posted - 2007.07.03 01:27:00 - [16] omg Moha Mend, all you need is a iteron 5 wich 5 stabs and MOST camp can't stop you. a little brains and you can avoid most pirate while running missions I just don't understand your carebear attitude. However, If you don't want to play in a world with risk, then you clearly aren't playing the right game and I can understand why you would quit GL with you next game. can i have your stuff :)
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.07.03 01:44:00 - [17] Any ship you can kill should be killed. Anyone who whines should be hunted down and killed again. - You keep using that word . . . I do not think it means what you think it means
MonwrathDisortium D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.03 03:24:00 - [18] Originally by: Moha Mend BLAH BLAH --and that's because I'm leaving Eve --BLAH BLAH -- So, after 12 months, I'm quiting. No flame. So quit already so I dont have to read your posts on the fourm. I now return you to your regularly scheduled programing. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie
Filthy Pierre Gallente Laughing Fox Enterprises	Posted - 2007.07.03 04:36:00 - [19] OP - Interesting question! (FYI - My current background in EVE is 0.5 high skills miner and mid-level industrialist - also have a number of Black Projects in the works that will take a few months to complete yet. And god help those on my Sierra One Hotel Tango list then...) EVE wouldn't be EVE without pirates. It'd be a lot more boring without them around. They add a little spice to the game. They're as necessary as any in the game are! I can understand why many of them do what they do, and properly done it's fun for all parties involved. It even gives some of us the necessary motivation to become PVPers (or even pirates) so as to return the favors. In spades! That said, there are two things (this is just my opinion) that don't do the pirate image much good - The endless ganking of helpless, low value targets in low sec (in 0.0 and Empire a gank is strictly business and everyone should understand that!) - such as a BC or cruiser taking down an unarmed, unescorted hauler. That seems to be the staple diet of many pirates. Now, an inty or an AF going after a BC or a BS and having a damned good fight win or lose - that's style! But endlessly killing targets that can't even shoot back? It really is no more risky a pastime than shooting rocks in 0.9 and requires a lot less SP to do. - which segues into the other thing that I've noticed - the whacko fundamentalist mentality that says that "EVE should be only direct PVP with no high sec, with me killing anything, anywhere, any time I like and anyone who disagrees with me is a noobloozerllamacarebear!" It actually does seem a little stronger amongst the pirate players than anywhere else. Those people ain't too much fun to be around because they don't make for a fun game for anyone but themselves. And they don't make for an interesting game for anyone. Plenty of room for everyone, I think - just wish we had more pirates with panache and style! They're probably some of the best people even "carebears" can get to encounter in the game! FP
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities	Posted - 2007.07.03 05:38:00 - [20] Originally by: Plaetean LFG x2. GTFO WoW noob! LOL. <j/k> Could be worse, you could be a carebear. BUYING CALDARI NAVY HEAVY MISSILE LAUNCHERS, PAYING WELL, CONVO/MAIL IN-GAME

Max Godsnottlingson Amarr Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2007.07.03 06:00:00 - [21] Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Ok im a -10 pirate and mt thread in witch i was lookin for a gang kinda turned into a moral debate about noobie/piracy/low sec killing. Any way id realy like ppl's real opinion about piracy cos if i gank a hauler in 0.0 nobody seems to care but a hauler in low sec causes such a fuss. And to my mind both are for profit, like miners mine, ratters rat, pvpers pop others players to make iskies. My pirate lfg thread ius the flamer lol Please don't turn this into a flamer its a honest thread for honest opinions on both side of the fence. Talking as one who is usually on the 'business end' of pirates weapons, and who has lost several haulers and other ships in my time. I think that generally, it is about right for low sec and for 0.0. Anybody who enters there knows the risk and there is simply no argument when you loose a ship to a pirate there. High sec piracy is a different matter and again, it's not realy to do with the ethics of if or not it's good or bad 'sportsmanship', what good piracy boils down too is player attitude. I can honestly say that every player pirate encounter I have had in 0.0 has been a damned good event, no smak talk, actually quite friendly, despite the fact that neither side with give a second thought to popping the others ship and pod and a mutual, if grudging resepect for one and other. 0.0 and to a lessor extent low sec piracy is where the game is,it's what the game is, or supposed to be about. But, as you get closer to high sec, that changes, and the attitude changes. There is a very, very poor attitude towards fellow players, infact I'd go as far as saying that many 'high sec' pirates take great delight in 'spoiling' other peoples games and then rubbing their nose in the fact that they have done it, rather then actually playing the game. Compound this with the fact that in High sec, and to an extent low sec, you have the greatest amount of true 'carebears' (In this case I define a Carebear as somebody who thinks they should be able to go anywhere and do anything without other players interfereing) it leads to some very nasty and ill-feeling game play. Generally, it is not the game that is at fault, but the people who play it. Against a fellow, mature in attitude, player PvP piracy is great, be it you win or loose. But against some smak talking ******. Well, I suppose I should feel sorry for them if the only thing that makes then feel good, in real life, is getting their part of the Eve servers crunching numbers faster then some other guys part of the Eve servers.
Remul Gallente Gallente Free Company	Posted - 2007.07.03 07:10:00 - [22] Quote: Any way id realy like ppl's real opinion about piracy cos if i gank a hauler in 0.0 nobody seems to care but a hauler in low sec causes such a fuss. Thats because 0.0 is viewed by many as the 'rough end of towm' and not many poeple care about what happens to the bad 'uns that live there. Sometimes Low sec cant be avoided, for whatever reson, ppl have to occaisionally step foot into these systems, and when they get nailed thats when the teddys get thrown. 'Shoot,Loot & Scoot'
Lord Hiou	Posted - 2007.07.03 07:21:00 - [23] i think piracy should be banned.... i lost my intention to play eve any more... thx pirates a go to hell
Galan Amarias Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.07.03 07:44:00 - [24] For fair disclosure I am speaking as a one time anti-pie who gave up a turned red flashie. A good bit of the hostility comes from the level of detachment the person doing the exploding has achived in the game. For some folks that whatever just blew up represents all their ingame hopes and dreams for a month or more. And some of us have been blown up so many times we just take note of how that fitting didn't work or what stupid thing led to the ambush, laugh at the pretty explosion and move on. While spaming the pod warp button. Those living in and near empire tend to be in the former group they are fully imersed and have little experience losing ship so it's not just a part of the game it's a world ending experience. For those who react well to getting zorched I offer friendly advice on tatics, fittings, places to avoid, how to use the map and whatnot. For those who get all up in arms we welcome your vengeance, it'll probably be a better fight. Pluss there is no thrill like being activly hunted. Having said that there are times I've podded folks just to stop the smack in local. On the why did the huge gank waste the noob ship question it is several reasons. Boredome plays a part, also there is the limited time you have to aquire a target before it warps off. That usually forces you to shoot everything and it's mother and hope you have enouugh dps to win. Also blasting young members of player corps, especially anti-pie corps tends to bring the calvelry, and that makes for a better fight, more loot and more fun. Finally lots of people seem to think that flying small crapy ships is a good disguse for things like BPO and none of us will let the chance this noob is one of them pass us by. -Galan
Galan Amarias Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.07.03 07:45:00 - [25] Edited by: Galan Amarias on 03/07/2007 07:44:50 Originally by: Lord Hiou i think piracy should be banned.... i lost my intention to play eve any more... thx pirates a go to hell Can I have your stuff? You can create a private contract in any 1.0 system.
Scum Killer Hang'em High	Posted - 2007.07.03 07:52:00 - [26] Being an anti-pirate my view is that most, but not all, pirates are bullies and cowards but non the less essential for the game. Without them life would be dull and they do help remove isk from the game and help keep up the demand for new ships/mods/ammo. They also add that element of risk any good game needs and also some target practise if you can get them to fight. Most pirates arn't stupid and will only engage if they think they can win. Blobing pirates don't work. However I see fewer pirates these days, the drop in T2 prices must have hurt their income and maybe some have moved to 0.0, left the game or turned to empire merc/grief work. 0.0 is fair game for all and this is well known by everyone and if they don't they will soon find out. Most alliance operate an NBSI policy so you could compare them to pirates on some levels. So love them or hate them pirates are essential for the game. They pay their subs so they play the game their way.
Rangkai	Posted - 2007.07.03 08:10:00 - [27] It bugs me when I see pirates picking on new players.. in lowsec. But I guess everyone needs to learn their lesson at some point. Pirates don't bother me.. If I get popped.. it's not a big deal because I learned long ago not to fly what I can't afford to lose :)
Cpt Branko Guardian Heroes	Posted - 2007.07.03 09:43:00 - [28] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 03/07/2007 09:44:45 Originally by: Moha Mend ...Piracy is unbalanced ... ...completely unrelated IRL analogy... ...some utterly wrong assumptions about pirates picking on noobs... ...To escape from the ammount of pirates in Eve lately it's been impossible to carebear in low-sec ... ...some crying about pirate alts trading... The game is unbalanced, that's all. ...some crying... ...not enough to run missions and avoid pirates in 0.4... You jerk, you do know that there's level 3 and 4 agents in 100% high sec where you won't possibly get sent to low-sec? After 12 months you haven't heard about high sec agents? Can I have your stuff? If you really want those low-sec agents, then duh. It's risk versus reward. If you want reward w/out risk, find high-sec agents which don't send you to low-sec, instead of whining.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.03 09:46:00 - [29] Ok so far we seem to have devived into about 4 camps. Camp 1 seems to be the im leaving eve all pirates are scumbag bullies and always pick on me. Camp 2 are the YAAARRRR killem all then find there children kinda attitude guys. Camp 3 Seem to be the more understanding or mature carebears who proly stab up every time they jump into low sec and proly have a scout alt or buddy to look before they leap. So they rarely get ganked. Camp 4 appear to be pure profit pirates who will kill anybody but are mostly looking for profit and know that even as they pop noobs that a lot of these guys carry bpo's and other expensive items in disguise. I personaly got a almost full set of snakes from a noob wreck i popped and bpo/c's many times in the past. Ok is that it? I kinda figured that these would be the more prevalent attitudes towards piracy im just wondering if there are any more?.
Cpt Branko Guardian Heroes	Posted - 2007.07.03 10:00:00 - [30] You forgot me, I'm a part-time pirate ;P



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