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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.01.26 11:53:00 -
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And the best thing about it is that they will talk complete nonsense just to cover up for a tiny one.
I personally loved the: Duel starts, I close too 1km, shoot the crap out of you.
You've got to be so far gone, you don't even recognize your own mama if you say something that stupid.
~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~
A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX
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ElCoCo
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Posted - 2004.01.26 11:55:00 -
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These discussions are pointless...
All you ppl are in the game long enough to know that with the right setup ANY BS can kill ANY other... just takes a bit of luck sometimes.
The scorp is just more versatile than others due to its med slots.
In conclusion...buy all the BS`s and play around with all of them....it`s fun!
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.01.26 12:01:00 -
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These discussions are pointless...
All you ppl are in the game long enough to know that with the right setup ANY BS can kill ANY other... just takes a bit of luck sometimes.
The scorp is just more versatile than others due to its med slots.
In conclusion...buy all the BS`s and play around with all of them....it`s fun!
Quite true but you have to admit watching someone completely ignore 50km to prove his ship owns all is pretty damn funny 
~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~
A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX
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Coreantes
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Posted - 2004.01.26 12:02:00 -
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Edited by: Coreantes on 26/01/2004 12:02:59
Well... i will go for the Typhoon for now! I like it better! :)
Maybe can you Typhoon-pilots tell me what you fit execly in those low slot! 7 is pretty much! :)
Tnx in advance!
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.01.26 12:21:00 -
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Edited by: Coreantes on 26/01/2004 12:02:59
Well... i will go for the Typhoon for now! I like it better! :)
Maybe can you Typhoon-pilots tell me what you fit execly in those low slot! 7 is pretty much! :)
Tnx in advance!
Dmg mods, warp stabiliser, reactors/CPUs, maybe even armour plating. If u want to run XL booster u will need cpus. also depends on your setup in hi.
send me mail ingame and ill be happy to help.
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Soul Reaver
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Posted - 2004.01.26 13:05:00 -
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Edited by: Soul Reaver on 26/01/2004 13:10:41
Exactly Elcoco
Pointless
To many differing setups
My point NajZero is that you would never run that setup on a Raven as I said :) I was trying to show you versatility and you missed the point entirely. 8 meds gives you a lot of versatility.
BUT
Any of you care to meet me for some one on one? Go on put your money where your mouths are in this debate :)
So back to my original point before I digressed with my story of setups and scenarios. The scorp is best for 1 v 1 because its just so versatile.
Be you a Pirate or a Simple Alt creeper! Sooner or later you'll dance with Soul Reaver and His Amazing Underpants
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NajZero
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Posted - 2004.01.26 14:14:00 -
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just say "LOL"
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Kayzuu Blackheart
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Posted - 2004.01.26 14:15:00 -
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LOL
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Shiri Sunfire
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Posted - 2004.01.26 14:15:00 -
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LOL
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Soul Reaver
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Posted - 2004.01.26 15:19:00 -
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LOL indeed
Ill take that as a typical
"I dare not risk losing my battleship carebear repsonse then" ha ha
Yes LOL indeed! In fact I ROFL each day at how singulary crap most so called PvPers actually are :)
Be you a Pirate or a Simple Alt creeper! Sooner or later you'll dance with Soul Reaver and His Amazing Underpants
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.01.26 15:55:00 -
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Edited by: Coreantes on 26/01/2004 12:02:59
Well... i will go for the Typhoon for now! I like it better! :)
Maybe can you Typhoon-pilots tell me what you fit execly in those low slot! 7 is pretty much! :)
Tnx in advance!
Right now? Okay, but I don't think you'll understand it 
1x Kinetic Armor Hardener
1x Thermic Armor Hardener
1x Explosive Armor Hardener
1x Large Armor Repairer
1x Counterbalanced Weapon Mount
1x Pneumatic Stabilization Actuator
1x Capacitor Power Relay
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Beseb
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Posted - 2004.01.26 17:42:00 -
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Soul Reaver,
I would argue that your fight with the Typhoon wouldn't be so pat.
If the Typhoon forces you into chase mode (which a smart pilot would do against short range opponents), his un-aided speed will be nearly equal to your AB speed. Close enough, that once he has you pursuing, he has eliminated the transverse velocity penalty to his tracking. Boom, now his big guns are hitting much better, despite the 2k range.
It'd be fun to test, but my guess is a skilled typhoon pilot would defeat your setup all other things begin equal.
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Pojo
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Posted - 2004.01.26 21:10:00 -
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I think that its pretty well known that the Typhoon is a long to medium range fighter and most people set it up that way. I for one would never let a scorp close in on even to 10km unless its almost dead.
If you going to propose some crazy duels like that soul guess what, what if that typhoon had its own 4 large smart bombs with radar backsup and some fine short range turrets. With 7 low slots I can have infinite cap or very close to it.
That scorpion would be dead very fast. What you suggested is just not fair, you take your oponents setup as if you know it for sure and then tailor make your scorp set up to defeat it. This can be done with any ship if you know the opponent. Get back to the real world where you may run into a long rage tempest or a close range megathron, good luck making a single setup that can defeat both.
Yeah and as someone said good luck catching a tempest or a typhoon in your scorpion even with one af. 
"Caldari capacity for good is only exceeded by our capacity for evil"
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Ylang Star
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Posted - 2004.01.27 00:46:00 -
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I beleive Soul also didnt take into account the small army of heavy drones a Typhoon could unleash on him...
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.01.27 01:00:00 -
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I beleive Soul also didnt take into account the small army of heavy drones a Typhoon could unleash on him...
You mean 1-4 more Drones than the Scorpion would be using?
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.01.27 01:01:00 -
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I think that its pretty well known that the Typhoon is a long to medium range fighter and most people set it up that way. I for one would never let a scorp close in on even to 10km unless its almost dead.
If they don't jam it, a Typhoon within 20km of a Scorp will tear it apart. Shields and all. Look over the low slot setup I gave earlier in the thread.
Then imagine 4x 800mm, 4x H50s with cruise missiles and 10x Heavy drones.
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If you going to propose some crazy duels like that soul guess what, what if that typhoon had its own 4 large smart bombs with radar backsup and some fine short range turrets. With 7 low slots I can have infinite cap or very close to it.
That scorpion would be dead very fast. What you suggested is just not fair, you take your oponents setup as if you know it for sure and then tailor make your scorp set up to defeat it. This can be done with any ship if you know the opponent. Get back to the real world where you may run into a long rage tempest or a close range megathron, good luck making a single setup that can defeat both.
Yeah and as someone said good luck catching a tempest or a typhoon in your scorpion even with one af.
Pretty much whoever controls the setup of the battlefield generally wins. Except when two ships setup for similiar combat styles collide. Then it's down to pilot + luck. Long range setups can't keep that Typhoon I described from running. Midranged setups can keep it from running but are likely to be beaten because of the Typhoon's bonus to range enhancing the allegedly short range guns.
Only person that scares me silly at the moment is running into drunkenmaster
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Slithereen
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Posted - 2004.01.27 01:10:00 -
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Once the testorone level is settled, take it from someone who owns both ships like me.
The outcome will result in a draw.
The Scorpion has enough tanking abilities to blunt the Typhoon's prodigious firepower, but on the other hand, the Scorpion lacks enough offensive abilities to take out the Typhoon. Few people know that the Typhoon can tank effectively too, due to its non cap usage, 7 low slots for diags and relays, and four midslots which is enough to put an xlarge booster with three hardeners.
My feeling remains that the Scorpion has an edge, given the ability to use EW and the variety of stuff you can use on it. But if you're not into EW, the Typhoon is a better joy to use.
One thing of note. Given the Typhoon's range bonus and 1400's extended range fall off, there is no excuse for using any other ammo on the Typhoon but EMP L.
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"Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies,
"Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy.
"Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
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Coreantes
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Posted - 2004.01.27 07:03:00 -
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1x Kinetic Armor Hardener
1x Thermic Armor Hardener
1x Explosive Armor Hardener
Dont they have penalties?
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But if you're not into EW, the Typhoon is a better joy to use.
Thats why I choose the Typhoon! 
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Soul Reaver
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Posted - 2004.01.27 07:50:00 -
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Edited by: Soul Reaver on 27/01/2004 11:05:07
Edited by: Soul Reaver on 27/01/2004 10:56:19
I know the battle scenarios are crazy (even though they worked) but thats the point I was trying to show versatility not endless setups and counter setups. However my offer is still open to anyone who might like to try their hand :)
Talk on here is so easy and goes round and round. Meet me anywhere in game and do some testing to prove your theorems if your all so confident :)
None of you will mind because apart from the known anti pirates and the known pirates all the rest are wanna be PvPers with little to no experience apart from the fitting bay ROFL
Be you a Pirate or a Simple Alt creeper! Sooner or later you'll dance with Soul Reaver and His Amazing Underpants
Currently chasing Lianhaun |
j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.01.27 14:54:00 -
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"Dont they have penalties?"
That's one hardener for each type, stacking penalty begins for 2nd, 3rd etc hardener of the same type. ^^
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Soul Reaver
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Posted - 2004.01.27 15:07:00 -
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Edited by: Soul Reaver on 27/01/2004 15:08:30
oppps wrong thread lol
Be you a Pirate or a Simple Alt creeper! Sooner or later you'll dance with Soul Reaver and His Amazing Underpants
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Martinus Crimson
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Posted - 2004.01.28 08:13:00 -
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I'm your Corpm8 .. and i'm forcing you in a freaking Scorp
Muhahahahahaha
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Coreantes
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Posted - 2004.01.28 08:24:00 -
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I'm your Corpm8 .. and i'm forcing you in a freaking Scorp
Muhahahahahaha
No your not! I have my Typhoon already and you know it! Now, get to work, you lazy miner...
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Slithereen
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Posted - 2004.01.28 11:34:00 -
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If you have a choice of 3 hardeners, it's best to vary them according to the region and type of NPC you wish to engage in.
Sansha, Bloods --- 2 EM, one Thermal
Angels --- 1 EM, 1 Thermal, 1 Explosive
Gurista, Serpentis --- 1 EM, 1 Thermal, 1 Kinetic
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"Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies,
"Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy.
"Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
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