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Amaroq Dricaldari
Vengeance Industrial Militia
3
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Posted - 2012.01.09 02:40:00 -
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I assume that you will also use Screen-Capturing software to record your gameplay and use Livestream to show your EVE gameplay?
My thread in the EVE Fiction forums has dissapeared. Somebody pease help! |
Zag'mar Jurkar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.01.09 02:52:00 -
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Why not just set up a Justin.tv channel and ask for ISK donations while making money from ads at the same time ? |
Lester Taron
Nazgul Lord Corp
0
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Posted - 2012.01.09 04:09:00 -
[33] - Quote
or twitchtv ^^^ |
Chiggy Luck
Hard-Luck Inc
0
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Posted - 2012.01.09 16:55:00 -
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My troll detector is off the scale, but here goes.
The most obvious hole in you're plan is that you want to charge 50 Mil an hour. That doesn't sound like something most established players would be willing to pay, let alone someone who is new to game making a couple of mil an hour at best. I don't think you've really thought about you're target demographic, let alone what they would be willing/able to pay for such a service.
Maybe if you charged a couple of mil a day/week you might get some new players sign up, but in it's current state I would rather invest in Goonswarms recruiting scam than this. |
OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
124
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Posted - 2012.01.09 21:12:00 -
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I think the only way to make this profitable is to have your sister play, sorry. Otherwise, well, I might as well watch myself play the game. Like was said, 50M/hour is awful pricey. |
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
3
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Posted - 2012.01.11 00:43:00 -
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I went with 50 mil because I didn't know. Does anyone know how much a cam show costs an hour or session? I don't think I would mind lowering the price if it means more business. My sister mainly plays Facebook games. I had showed her Eve before but she is a girl and I think it was too much math for her. |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force
Fatal Ascension
189
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Posted - 2012.01.11 01:04:00 -
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Cam show by girls with no clothes on = $$$$$. Cam show with basement dude playing internet spaceships = -ó if you're lucky.
1M isk per hour maybe?  That might be pushing it.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39006524/DumbHiseccers.jpg |
Blecktalk Morwoop
Ordo Ouroboros
0
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Posted - 2012.01.11 04:39:00 -
[38] - Quote
You can stream off of twitch.tv for free. |
Arbryl
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.11 17:10:00 -
[39] - Quote
How often will you be playing on the toilet? This could affect my interest in this service. |
Jehek Azen
Cult of the Spinning Meat
0
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Posted - 2012.01.11 17:58:00 -
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Can you provide "premium" stream with see-through cameras?
How much clothing will you be wearing while streaming?
Will you be streaming from bathroom or shower?
These will be they key questions if you want to "convince" me into investing or watching the stream. If you are planning on "premium" stream, I will definitely be "in", if you know what I mean.
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Lacco
draketrain
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
2
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Posted - 2012.01.11 18:02:00 -
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Confederation of xXPIZZAXx would like to recruit you. |
wowjemdsd
Viziam
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.01.11 18:51:00 -
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hello to all the follwing is a hat that i had with metalravenous he is 100 % a scammer do not turest him
Channel ID: -27564497
Channel Name: Private Chat (Private Chat)
Listener: wowjemdsd
Session started: 2012.01.11 18:44:59
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:45:01 ] wowjemdsd > hi
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:45:02 ] wowjemdsd > https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=55008&find=unread
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:45:03 ] wowjemdsd > hell
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:45:04 ] metalravenous > yo
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:45:08 ] wowjemdsd > hello how are you
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:45:12 ] metalravenous > im good
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:45:14 ] metalravenous > how are you
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:45:18 ] wowjemdsd > i was lookign at your offer
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:45:29 ] wowjemdsd > Looking for ISK loan to start business
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:45:36 ] wowjemdsd > you are is that right?
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:45:41 ] metalravenous > i have had some isk invested but no where near what i need
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:45:51 ] wowjemdsd > ok
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:46:01 ] wowjemdsd > please show me some proof
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:46:03 ] wowjemdsd > plase
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:46:17 ] metalravenous > im not sure what you mean
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:46:32 ] wowjemdsd > can you please show me some prove
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:46:40 ] metalravenous > proof of what?
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:46:54 ] wowjemdsd > that you ahev a steam
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:47:10 ] wowjemdsd > stream
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:47:14 ] wowjemdsd > please link em to it
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:47:14 ] metalravenous > I dont
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:47:19 ] wowjemdsd > what
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:47:20 ] metalravenous > that is the point of the loan
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:47:46 ] wowjemdsd > you sad
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:47:47 ] wowjemdsd > Yes, people are paying ISK to watch me play EVE.
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:47:50 ] wowjemdsd > so now
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:47:53 ] wowjemdsd > my wuestion si
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:47:55 ] metalravenous > oh
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:47:56 ] wowjemdsd > is
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:48:05 ] wowjemdsd > were are people watching you play eve
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:48:06 ] wowjemdsd > link
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:48:08 ] wowjemdsd > please
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:48:16 ] metalravenous > they arent because i havent started it up yet
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:49:16 ] wowjemdsd > so why are you saying that than when it is NOT ture
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:49:43 ] metalravenous > sorry i dont understand what you mean
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:49:49 ] metalravenous > i need loan to start business
n++[ 2012.01.11 18:50:10 ] wowjemdsd > this man is a scammer do not turest him
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metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
3
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Posted - 2012.01.11 18:54:00 -
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If anyone can decipher that that guy was saying I would appreciate it.
I have no business yet that is why I need the loan.
I am not sure like I am just a college guy so I don't know that my parents would approve of me doing some of the things people have eve mailed me about. And I would like to mention again that my sister is just 14 so please stop with the perv requests. My mom does sometimes use the computer to send mails to my grandmother. |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force
Fatal Ascension
192
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Posted - 2012.01.11 19:56:00 -
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metalravenous wrote:If anyone can decipher that that guy was saying I would appreciate it.
I have no business yet that is why I need the loan.
I am not sure like I am just a college guy so I don't know that my parents would approve of me doing some of the things people have eve mailed me about. And I would like to mention again that my sister is just 14 so please stop with the perv requests. My mom does sometimes use the computer to send mails to my grandmother.
Does your mom sometimes use evemails to do it? 
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39006524/DumbHiseccers.jpg |
OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
124
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Posted - 2012.01.11 20:38:00 -
[45] - Quote
Protip: never mention little sister on online forums. |
AstarothPrime
Eternal Profiteers
Eternal Syndicate
4
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Posted - 2012.01.12 00:16:00 -
[46] - Quote
I dont get it
Why would anyone want to see you play EVE realtime???
Theres like 1000000 movies on youtube with exactly the topic u need...
What u kill avatars with rifters? Or what exactly would make ppl payperview your sessions 
I. |
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
3
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Posted - 2012.01.12 00:27:00 -
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Why do people go to theaters to see live shows versus going to blockbuster video? Not the same experience. |
De Guillaume
Seven Minutes To Midnight.
The Volition Cult
26
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Posted - 2012.01.12 01:12:00 -
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I do not know if this has been done before but why not host a race. Create a route, make it public. empire and low sec, no 00. get say 20 people in the race, put a first prize to the winner of the race and a prize to anyone else who manages to kill the most racers.
if u can understand my bad english. and some how live stream the event, I think some people might pay to watch this
or even bet on the race outcome.
i would invest in something like that. with a person i trust, which isn't u unless u have collateral |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force
Fatal Ascension
192
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Posted - 2012.01.12 01:14:00 -
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metalravenous wrote:Why do people go to theaters to see live shows versus going to blockbuster video? Not the same experience.
You are mixing media, but am I to assume from that that you think watching you play a spaceship game on a computer through a webcam would be an experience worth sitting down for on its own merits?
Just want to point out that if you type "cam show" in Google, the first non-**** listing I got was http://alongabbay.com/cam-shows where some dude in much better shape than you are will flex for you over the camera for free.
Not that I don't applaud your can-do spirit and your desire to make ISK doing essentially nothing, but . Why would you think there was a demand for this?
Say (and let's be really f'ing generous here) that 5% of the entire EVE population logged in at any given point of time would actually even want to see you. Let's also assume that active numbers have gone up 10% since Crucible (I'm pulling numbers from Jester then applying the 10% out of my ass, but you get the point). Remove average alt accounts, and you get somewhere in the realm of 738 people willing to watch you throughout the entire day, throughout all of EVE. Or 32 dudes an hour. Say half of them have the ISK to spend on this (again, generous the way I hear people complain about not being space rich); that makes 16.
Also let's assume that somehow you have marketed your service to ALL of Eve (instead of just Jita which is what you originally said), covering 100% of your potential clients. Then let's apply an insanely generous response rate and say 15% of all the dudes who are interested respond to your offer. You are left with 2 dudes who a. want to watch you, b. are aware you exist, c. can and actually will drop money to see you sit in front of a screen.
You said that you think hosting will cost 1-10B a month in costs, plus 3.5B or so in startup costs for a camera, hosting, setup, what have you. Your fixed monthly expenses are tagged at 1 plex, or say 450M plus hosting. This doesn't include advertising. So let's say that you turned out to be on the lower side and it only costs you 2B/month in hosting.
All in all considering your initial costs (you asked for 25B but let's say you only really need 10B for the first 2 months) would require constant payments from your customers of appx. 3.7M/hour each, just to recoup your costs. Not even to make a single ISK worth of profit. This is non-stop, no downtime, no maintenance, assuming you actually had those returns on your advertising. If you really needed 25B for those first 2 months, each subscriber would have to pay 9M/hour in costs alone.
Are you getting the picture here? The math gets more ridiculous the more I look at it.
In summary: Either you are attempting a Prencleeve Grothsmore-like bad scam to get 25 billion ISK, and relying on everyone taking your ridiculous numbers at face value, or you simply have no clue. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here (again, generous) and say that you probably think running a business is all cake and easy money 'cause you're in uni and you just don't know any better, but perhaps you should spend some time crunching some numbers first.
Hey, I'll subscribe to you if you subscribe to me! I charge 50M/hour to watch me pour over market spreadsheets.
Also, 2 ISK sent so you can claim loudly that you scammed and trolled me, and then just give it all up.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39006524/DumbHiseccers.jpg |
Marlona Sky
EntroPrelatial Vanguard
EntroPraetorian Aegis
364
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Posted - 2012.01.17 10:48:00 -
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Encasing Mineral Cannon
This wonderful weapon can only be equipped on mining mining barges and haulers would allow the pilot to spray minerals they have in their cargo hold onto the enemy ship and eventually encase it in an asteroid . The only way to be free of such a tomb would be if a friend was to mine you out of it. Self-destruct would also be disabled. 
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Levija Saplina
Supremacy Inc.
Not Found.
59
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Posted - 2012.01.17 12:35:00 -
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Goatse was the word that came to mind. |
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