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Butler Hans
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.07.04 10:01:00 -
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Greetings all. My master sais
Quote: What a hell!! Angels resist my beautiful lasers!! Haaaaaaans!Do something about this!
So,I need advice. My master use APOC.We fight against Angels. I heard rumor that APOC with projective is good setup. I need setup infomation about APOC with projective.
(I'm role player.)
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.04 10:03:00 -
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ACPOC!
Mids full of cap rechargers, 2x LAR tank 2x EXP hard 1x EANM rest damage mods.
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jthorpvoodoo2
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Posted - 2007.07.04 10:15:00 -
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ratting Angels in APOC is easy work, what angels though, you in 0.0?
I generally go for 7 Tachyon Beam II's with Aurora crystals, at least 2 local pwr diagnostics, 1 of each arm hardner other then EM and a large arm rep II if you can, 1600mm arm plates. gives you about 14000 armor with 70%+ resistances
Mid's sensor dampners maybe 2 of, and cap rechagers.
Fill drone bay with hammerheads and acolytes should be able to fit 5 of each.
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Butler Hans
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.07.04 10:24:00 -
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We are in 0.0
Q:Are We Not Men? A:We Are AMARR! |
Scraqp
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.07.04 11:06:00 -
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<smartass> its _projectile_, not projective ;) </smartass>
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Butler Hans
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.07.04 13:59:00 -
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Oh....sorry. I mean projectile. I need infomation about projectile.
(Its occupational disease. I'm psychologist in real galaxy.)
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Warrio
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.04 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz ACPOC!
Mids full of cap rechargers, 2x LAR tank 2x EXP hard 1x EANM rest damage mods.
What this guy said. Tell ya master to use Artys in the top because the saints stay at 30km range and are too hard to kill with anything else. When I was doing it I just started with regular T1 1400mm weaps then upgraded as I found better ones off the rats. Also I think I found Proton L to be the best but I don't really remmember (it might have been the one that started with "F"). In any case it's a shame to have to step away from your lasers especially if you happen to have trained up T2 Large Energy but the setup is effective for what you want to do and it's nice and cheap.
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Butler Hans
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.07.04 23:36:00 -
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Edited by: Butler Hans on 04/07/2007 23:40:02 I see. Thank you. I thought when we fight with agnels,Afterburner will be needed. Don't need afterburner??
You mean Fusion L,right? 1400mm arty? how about autocanos and 1200mm?
Dont worry. I hesitate to say....My master didnt master laser skills.
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Warrio
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.05 01:52:00 -
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1200mm are fine, just a weaker version of the 1400mm in this situations. Don't bother with the AC's, too shorter range for a few of the Angel BS's.
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king jks
The Nine Gates Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.07.05 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: jthorpvoodoo2 ratting Angels in APOC is easy work, what angels though, you in 0.0?
I generally go for 7 Tachyon Beam II's with Aurora crystals, at least 2 local pwr diagnostics, 1 of each arm hardner other then EM and a large arm rep II if you can, 1600mm arm plates. gives you about 14000 armor with 70%+ resistances
Mid's sensor dampners maybe 2 of, and cap rechagers.
Fill drone bay with hammerheads and acolytes should be able to fit 5 of each.
lol.
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Butler Hans
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.07.05 02:56:00 -
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Originally by: Warrio 1200mm are fine, just a weaker version of the 1400mm in this situations. Don't bother with the AC's, too shorter range for a few of the Angel BS's.
Thanks for your infomation. OK,We'll try 1400mm first.
any one can tell us how to set med and low slots? And,Which bullet is good for angels ratting? Fusion L?
I think High 1400mm x6 Salvager x1 tractor x1 Med Cap rechargersII x3 AB x1 Low LAR II x2 Exp hardner x2 Kin hardner x1 Energized Adaptive Membrane x1 Cap relay x1
hmmm....
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Matuk Grymwal
Impartial Predjudices
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Posted - 2007.07.05 03:01:00 -
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Yes use Fusion for Angels. If you need more range you can swap to any of the other explosive ammos, but fusion is best.
That slot layout you have suggested is ok. You may want to drop a KIN hardener for another adaptive nano or a thermal hardener as some angels will hit you pretty hard with EM/Therm. ---------- Life isn't fair. Get over it. |
Butler Hans
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.07.05 04:04:00 -
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Originally by: Matuk Grymwal Yes use Fusion for Angels. If you need more range you can swap to any of the other explosive ammos, but fusion is best.
That slot layout you have suggested is ok. You may want to drop a KIN hardener for another adaptive nano or a thermal hardener as some angels will hit you pretty hard with EM/Therm.
Thanks a lot. I'll try to change.
Any other suggestion?
Q:Are We Not Men? A:We Are AMARR! |
Dilskin
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.07.05 06:13:00 -
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Get a Raven. |
StinkFinger
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.07.05 06:39:00 -
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Use a geddon instead..works alot better.
7 mega pulse 2
1 ab 2 cap recharger 2s
1 lar2 3 rat specific hardeners 2 heat sink 2s 2 cap relay 2s
3 ccc rigs
5 berserker drones 2
pwn
Originally by: Karanth That's like sitting on your hand till it goes numb, so it's like a stranger. It's not as satisfying, and I'LL know the difference.
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Butler Hans
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.07.05 23:45:00 -
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Why everyone say "TAKE DRAKE" like a fool? Are you guys spy from caldari? Everyone use same ship is dull. (Think why I choose AMARR)
hmmm....I don think mega puluse 2 do better than artillery in this case.
Any other suggestion?
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Tamoko
Damage Unlimited Inc
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Posted - 2007.07.06 01:30:00 -
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Edited by: Tamoko on 06/07/2007 01:31:03 Figure out what range the majority of your rats will orbit you at. If it's below 10 clicks, I'm going to recommend a rack of named 1200mm Artillery cannons. The tracking on these, especially with a tracking computer, is really good, and you'll experience better damage over all.
If they reliably orbit around 30km like someone said, 1400mms may very well end up being a better choice, as long as you have enough grid to fit them.
All projectile slugs (edit: so i don't feed the forum pvpers, let me amend that: MOST projectile slugs) have explosive damage, so all of them will do better natural damage than a laser. However, stick to fusion and nuclear (for short and long range, respectively) for best performance.
This is an example howipoc I threw to together in the sandbox. I couldn't figure out how to make 1400s fit w/o perfect fitting skills:
[ HI SLOTS - 8 turrets ] [*] 8x 1200mm Prototype I Siege Cannon
[ MID SLOTS - 4 slots ] [*] 1x F-12 Nonlinear Tracking Processor [*] 3x Cap Recharger II
[ LOW SLOTS - 7 slots ] [*] 1x Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructor [*] 1x Med 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructor [*] 4x Racial Hardeners (explosive, explosive, kinetic, thermic? the jury is still out) [*] 1x Gyrostab II
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StinkFinger
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.07.06 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Butler Hans Why everyone say "TAKE DRAKE" like a fool? Are you guys spy from caldari? Everyone use same ship is dull. (Think why I choose AMARR)
hmmm....I don think mega puluse 2 do better than artillery in this case.
Any other suggestion?
Well depends on your skills...since i have pulse spec'ed to 5 and don't even have small projectiles trained, mega pulse 2s is my gun of choice for angels .
Oh and Berserker IIs are kind of mandatory for taking angel rats in a geddon.
Originally by: Karanth That's like sitting on your hand till it goes numb, so it's like a stranger. It's not as satisfying, and I'LL know the difference.
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