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Aethana	Posted - 2007.07.05 15:39:00 - [1] Hi, I don't post much as the low profile is pretty good... However, today I was shocked to get this offer 2007.07.05 15:32 Our research has been fruitful. I believe we could have a patentable Bistot Mining Crystal II Blueprint. Contact me as soon as possible if you're interested. I checked all my R and D agents, and they all had nothing predictable, including this agent under electronic engineering. SO, I think this is one of the last T2 bpos given out in the game. The lotto has been good to me with about 20 bpos so far, and I might keep this one for EVE sentimental value. I placed this post here in general discussion for a general discussion on the lottery, nostalgia, invention and etc but not as much as it pertains to the manufacturing side as per the other message board. T2 lotto--I'll miss you!
M4sterm1nd DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.05 15:42:00 - [2] So it's definitely burnt and gone then?
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.05 15:44:00 - [3] What's floating around now seems to be the ones that people reject. They get offered to someone else even though the agent claims there's "nothing predictable". warp drive active \| nature vraie
Josho Tsunetumo Caldari V for Vendetta	Posted - 2007.07.05 16:58:00 - [4] Originally by: Aethana The lotto has been good to me with about 20 bpos so far, and I might keep this one for EVE sentimental value. ...
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.07.05 17:00:00 - [5] Originally by: Josho Tsunetumo Originally by: Aethana The lotto has been good to me with about 20 bpos so far, and I might keep this one for EVE sentimental value. ... --- Originally by: CCP Wrangler You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
Nicocat Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.07.05 17:02:00 - [6] Originally by: Josho Tsunetumo Originally by: Aethana The lotto has been good to me with about 20 bpos so far, and I might keep this one for EVE sentimental value. ... Proof positive that killing the lottery was the only sensible thing CCP has ever done. Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY Down with alts! One character per account per IP!
Vasiliyan Federation Fleet Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.07.05 17:19:00 - [7] Originally by: Aethana The lotto has been good to me with about 20 bpos so far With how many RP, may I ask?
Insane Dealer	Posted - 2007.07.05 17:35:00 - [8] Originally by: Vasiliyan Originally by: Aethana The lotto has been good to me with about 20 bpos so far With how many RP, may I ask? 22
Jennai The Silent Rage R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.07.05 17:40:00 - [9] Originally by: Nicocat Originally by: Josho Tsunetumo Originally by: Aethana The lotto has been good to me with about 20 bpos so far, and I might keep this one for EVE sentimental value. ... Proof positive that killing the lottery was the only sensible thing CCP has ever done. I got 3 in two years with 3-4 agents, so 20 would be quite possible with two accounts each running 3 characters with 4 agents each for two years.
Dan Grobag Caldari ICE is Coming to EVE Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.07.05 18:39:00 - [10] or those who are destroyed then resseeded

Gamer4liff Caldari Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY	Posted - 2007.07.05 18:54:00 - [11] Edited by: Gamer4liff on 05/07/2007 18:55:21 I'm pretty sure the last T2 BPO was an acolyte 2 BPO on the mechanical engineering field, that being said I will miss the lottery very much, as it was a truly inspirational and legendary system of magic and mysteries and unrivaled joy. I hope someday CCP reawaken the T2 lottery someday in the future when most people have already cashed in on their RP. Oh well, I'm happy enough with my 4 T2 BPOs either way. EDIT: over 3 accounts researching for 1-2 years with 18 R&D agents.
Minerva Vulcan Caldari The Nexus Foundation	Posted - 2007.07.05 19:03:00 - [12] T3 lottery, anyone?
Hamfast Gallente	Posted - 2007.07.05 19:43:00 - [13] One thing to say to the OP... GRATS!!!!!! None of us is as dumb as all of us...
Alvara Kuiper Belt Industries Empire Research	Posted - 2007.07.05 19:44:00 - [14] There was a single drone bpo in Electronic Engr last night. Haven't checked since down time. Tired of Waiting? Use Empire Research
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2007.07.05 20:22:00 - [15] I never got a t2 bpo :(
000Hunter000 Gallente Magners Marauders	Posted - 2007.07.05 20:24:00 - [16] so what does one do with rp's now? just get datacores? there won't be anything else from them? U know i wish ccp would give R&D agents a shop also where u could exchange ur rp's for limited run T2 bpc's, but then they should also change it so u wil have to do the R&D agent missions to get rp's otherwise it would be too easy. This would be nice for the people not interested or can't be bothered to do invention CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
Del Narveux Obsidian Angels Enterprises	Posted - 2007.07.05 20:26:00 - [17] I rather hope they bring the lottery back with even more blueprints, it and invention should complement each other. Rare but slightly more easily obtained BPOs to reward longtime RD agent ***s and and industrialists who want to make a whole lot of one thing, and invention BPCs on demand for keeping prices in check. _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? Originally by:** Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
realbadman	Posted - 2007.07.05 21:42:00 - [18] Originally by: Aethana The lotto has been good to me with about 20 bpos so far, and I might keep this one for EVE sentimental value. Thanks, now i need a new monitor.
Defiant NL Amarr Brotherhood of Wolves	Posted - 2007.07.05 22:35:00 - [19] Just a tiny question concerning the 20 t2 bpo's... How big is your wallet
Amarria Lightwielder N.A.G.A Corporation	Posted - 2007.07.06 00:17:00 - [20] oh well, what to do with my rp points now :/ - -- Sound in EVE

El'essar Viocragh Minmatar FSK23	Posted - 2007.07.06 00:59:00 - [21] Originally by: 000Hunter000 so what does one do with rp's now? just get datacores? there won't be anything else from them? U know i wish ccp would give R&D agents a shop also where u could exchange ur rp's for limited run T2 bpc's, but then they should also change it so u wil have to do the R&D agent missions to get rp's otherwise it would be too easy. This would be nice for the people not interested or can't be bothered to do invention But invention is why this won't happen. But, that said, I'd like to buy decryptors for RP :D -- [17:47] <Mephysto> its dead, jim
Khan Dhu Khan Dhu Research and Cloning	Posted - 2007.07.06 01:03:00 - [22] Originally by: El'essar Viocragh But, that said, I'd like to buy decryptors for RP :D Or use them as a discount towards high-priced BPOs, albeit with a limit and a scalable system so you couldn't spend 10k RP to get 10% off the market price of a Nyx BPO.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.07.06 01:23:00 - [23] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 06/07/2007 01:22:47 I for one am going to miss the lottery, all that's left now is the grind. Also Known As
Callthetruth Caldari Logical Logtistics	Posted - 2007.07.06 01:42:00 - [24] all over red and yellow rover
Benn Helmsman Caldari Helmsman Engineering Company	Posted - 2007.07.06 01:45:00 - [25] T2 lottery was one of the worst mistakes CCP ever made, and i really hope they will NEVER add another bonus for people who got a T2 BPO, because they already made a hillarious gain from them.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.07.06 02:27:00 - [26] Originally by: Benn Helmsman T2 lottery was one of the worst mistakes CCP ever made, and i really hope they will NEVER add another bonus for people who got a T2 BPO, because they already made a hillarious gain from them. No static complexes were, most tech II BPOs pale in comparison. Also Known As
Benn Helmsman Caldari Helmsman Engineering Company	Posted - 2007.07.06 02:34:00 - [27] Complexes took at least some risk and time to run.. T2 production is no risk, like 5 minute time you need to invest every day.. maybe some afk hauling and here we go: billions of isk made out of thin air.
Vasiliyan Federation Fleet Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.07.06 11:32:00 - [28] I still have the theory that the random drawing for the lottery was done with the same seed each time, which would explain why some people lots and lots of BPOs.
Leandro Salazar The Blackguard Wolves	Posted - 2007.07.06 11:45:00 - [29] Originally by: Benn Helmsman Complexes took at least some risk and time to run.. T2 production is no risk, like 5 minute time you need to invest every day.. maybe some afk hauling and here we go: billions of isk made out of thin air. As for research, I had one L2 research agent for one year, and it yielded me a Barrage L BPO a few weeks back. All things considered, I think I did fairly well in the lottery that way. Yet it did take quite a bit of skill training out of my main character on that account, as well as needing a decent amount of standing grind. I got a decent reward for a decent effort. Obviously the guys getting ship or popular module BPOs did better, but those are prolly few and they invested a lot more than me into research. As for plexes, some guys in 0.0 ran a 10/10 plex, which takes what, an hour or two? And likely came out with multiple times the value of my T2 BPO. With next to no effort. So no, the lottery does not even come close in ridiculousness to static plexes. Thanks SkyFlyer! There is no 'n' in turret
Cheyenne Shadowborn Caldari Citizens of E.A.R.T.H. E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.07.06 12:09:00 - [30] Originally by: Aethana The lotto has been good to me with about 20 bpos so far Allow me to be maybe not the first, but someone to say: WTF? I haven't had a single one. Ever. If you have one in your collection thats not worth keeping for nostalgic reasons, send it my way to even out natural order in the galaxy, thanks --

Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.07.06 12:15:00 - [31] 6 months ago I would have said the T2 lottery was the worst thing in Eve history. However, with the release of Invention, I personally feel that the T2 lottery is no longer overpowered as it once was. Either way, profits derived from lottery wins will be limited by the competition now being able to keep supply at an acceptable level and keep profit margins intact. That's just my opinion though, that as of right now, I feel there is nothing wrong with the T2 lottery because we have invention to balance the scales. And this is coming from someone who has only won 1 T2 bpo, and bought the rest of his collection. Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Awox Minmatar QUANT Corp. Southern Connection	Posted - 2007.07.06 12:17:00 - [32] The coolest thing about the gentlemen with 20 bpos is that his wallet will never dry up, and with the trillions he has amassed he can still rig the prices of any market he choses with little effort. Invention needs a boost, IMO, 500mil required just to try to invent a ship? Yeah, thanks for making it easier for the little people, CCP. - AwoxEveUtils (EVELauncher, ShiftWindows, ScratchPad) script for AutoIt scripting language!
Kye Do'lan Gallente The Whitesands Consortium	Posted - 2007.07.06 12:22:00 - [33] Originally by: Aethana Hi, SO, I think this is one of the last T2 bpos given out in the game. The lotto has been good to me with about 20 bpos so far, and I might keep this one for EVE sentimental value. Are you some sort of a**** or something???????
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition New Eve Order	Posted - 2007.07.06 12:24:00 - [34] not too mention 1-2 bill for the initial investment on skills + data interfaces... My opinion is my own, not of my corp or my alliance. If you have problems, we can have a "who can do L4 missions faster" duel >:)
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.07.06 12:27:00 - [35] Edited by: Ricdic on 06/07/2007 12:29:06 Originally by: Awox The coolest thing about the gentlemen with 20 bpos is that his wallet will never dry up, and with the trillions he has amassed he can still rig the prices of any market he choses with little effort. WTS - A clue Most T2 bpo's are relatively minimal profit makers. Sure, the markup's are nice, but generally you will find those holding the bpo's aren't running them at full capacity due to limited demand on the items. And I know a few players/corps in game with 50+ T2 bpo's who wouldn't amass trillions on their prints. Sure, if the OP has a Cap recharger II bpo, a Hammerhead II bpo, a Hulk bpo, one of each command ship bpo, and a Modulated Strip Miner II bpo, I may be proven wrong (in regards to the trillions comment), but you have to remember that there are hundreds of different t2 bpo's in the game. For all you know, 10 of the OP's could be ammo prints, a few mining crystals, and a few standard module prints (afterburner etc). Not exactly the kind of stuff that makes trillionaires. edit: cleaned up Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
RedClaws Amarr Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.07.06 12:28:00 - [36] Originally by: Aethana The lotto has been good to me with about 20 bpos so far, and I might keep this one for EVE sentimental value. You suck! What did you do? Get like 10 accounts with all 3 chars having 5 lvl4 R&D agents? Some people just take this "being the best" too far.
Trak Cranker Serenity Inc	Posted - 2007.07.06 12:32:00 - [37] Edited by: Trak Cranker on 06/07/2007 12:32:21 Originally by: Khan Dhu Originally by: El'essar Viocragh But, that said, I'd like to buy decryptors for RP :D Or use them as a discount towards high-priced BPOs, albeit with a limit and a scalable system so you couldn't spend 10k RP to get 10% off the market price of a Nyx BPO. RP = datacores = ISK = discount. And yeah. Lets pray to the gods that the T2 lottery is dead. I got a reasonable result from it myself, time and skill taken into consideration. But it was a game element that clearly turned out to be problem. Invention will work perfectly as a substitute. The option of going into it is open to all, but skills and brains will play a much larger part than on the T1 market, and will make going the science way what it should have been from day 1. Now they just need to phase out the T2 BPOs. Exchange them for datacores and level the market.
Immaterial	Posted - 2007.07.06 13:13:00 - [38] Originally by: Benn Helmsman Complexes took at least some risk and time to run.. T2 production is no risk, like 5 minute time you need to invest every day.. maybe some afk hauling and here we go: billions of isk made out of thin air. Just like t1 production in fact... (No i haven't got a t2 bpo...)
MrBreaker Amarr	Posted - 2007.07.06 13:14:00 - [39] The thing about Invention is that you have to spend a whole lot of cash to get a T2 BPC, and then negative ME really adds a lot to the cost of the item. If you factor in the total amount you have to spend to get a single multi-run T2 BPC, then look at how much actual profit you make per ship, sometimes you are at a serious loss. I think a good fix would be to make the ME penalty less harsh. That would make invention that little bit more profitable.
Manic Smile Tau Ceti Global Production Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.07.06 14:48:00 - [40] Originally by: Ricdic Edited by: Ricdic on 06/07/2007 12:29:06 Originally by: Awox The coolest thing about the gentlemen with 20 bpos is that his wallet will never dry up, and with the trillions he has amassed he can still rig the prices of any market he choses with little effort. WTS - A clue Most T2 bpo's are relatively minimal profit makers. Sure, the markup's are nice, but generally you will find those holding the bpo's aren't running them at full capacity due to limited demand on the items. And I know a few players/corps in game with 50+ T2 bpo's who wouldn't amass trillions on their prints. Sure, if the OP has a Cap recharger II bpo, a Hammerhead II bpo, a Hulk bpo, one of each command ship bpo, and a Modulated Strip Miner II bpo, I may be proven wrong (in regards to the trillions comment), but you have to remember that there are hundreds of different t2 bpo's in the game. For all you know, 10 of the OP's could be ammo prints, a few mining crystals, and a few standard module prints (afterburner etc). Not exactly the kind of stuff that makes trillionaires. edit: cleaned up and? Lets just convert all BPOs to BPCs then if they are not that big of a deal...or better yet all those crappy ones can just be give to me...pffft. Lottery was lame, regardless of how lame. *courtesy of www.flickr.com I hate the jpeg format.

Sharra Savente Shai'tan's Elite	Posted - 2007.07.06 15:36:00 - [41] Originally by: El'essar Viocragh Originally by: 000Hunter000 so what does one do with rp's now? just get datacores? there won't be anything else from them? U know i wish ccp would give R&D agents a shop also where u could exchange ur rp's for limited run T2 bpc's, but then they should also change it so u wil have to do the R&D agent missions to get rp's otherwise it would be too easy. This would be nice for the people not interested or can't be bothered to do invention But invention is why this won't happen. But, that said, I'd like to buy decryptors for RP :D Datacores are also dropped in that discovery-searching-out-a-plex thingy, costs-a-bunch-of-probes-and-time thingy, so I would like to exchange my RPs for limited run BPCs, or even save up enough RP to buy a BPO. Heck, even a LP store option- let me cash it out for so many exotic dancers or sommat:) English doesn't borrow from other languages; it follows other languages down dark alleys, coshes them, then rummages in their pockets for loose grammar.
Zarin	Posted - 2007.07.07 11:33:00 - [42] 3 years, 30 Agents, for 1 T2 BPO that makes less profit than most T1 BPOs :(


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