Originally by: Fry Fortune

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Shocked and stunned this happened since most of the digic and nez essays were about making portions of the community look inept and stupid and little just because they weren't in the old boys club. Absolutely stunning that caod should change with the times, shocking even!

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Originally by: Kcel Chim

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Originally by: Stahlregen

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I'm stunned and shocked that there isn't more neener neener, After all what other purpose could COAD possible serve? Other than circle jerking that is.

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well there was a time when enemies actually had a discussion on the forums and posts of more then 1 line in reply were in common. In this time some ppl roleplayed actual "pilots" with certain special habits like jade, j0sephine, Xirtam and weirda and even Molle as the evil dictator. Nowadays you only get "fofofo" spam and silly oneliners and the boards contain no real information anymore.

A few exceptions made (actually BE and Shin Ra are top notch) uve no real characters left anymore. The discussions of nez perez, digi and the likes, albeit sometimes filled with bitter hatred, but nevertheless well educated and witty get drowned in altspam, idiotposts and simple spam. Combined with an attitude of "we dont care about the game, the lore, the atmosphere. We are only in for giggles and a dramabombs to stroke our epeens". Even the holiest of all rules "never damage the company whos game u play" is broken regularly and smearcampaigns and threadnoughts dictate the "new eve".

The maturity has severly decreased -in general- tho i can say certain parties had their hands in it more then others. For those who dont care it will prolly be water in the mills, but i miss the "more serious" eve. In which reputation, ehonor and playing good or bad (nevertheless playing a character) had a meaning above "hahahah fofofofo new ship hahahhaha".

But as ive seen in the FLA thread and in hardins threads. There is still atleast a modest core of ppl who play and see the game in the same way and enjoy the same values. Characters like Ginger Magician, Stavros, Zap, Ragnar, Jade and even Xirtam can never be replaced by some youngsters enjoying "lawless internet" and acting like jackasses. Atleast in my opinion about this wonderfull game. Hence ure right Coad changed, not for the better in my view of things.

P.S. im not saying in the days of old there wasnt spam, or that there wasnt argueing. But the Coad had more temper, more emotions and more atmosphere.

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Originally by: Djinn Sling

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...what can I say - when I started playing the game called Eve, I was impressed by the relative (relative) maturity of the players, as compared to the maturity of other MMO players.

These days, however, all I seem to see is "neener neener nyoo" posts on the forums. Shame on you all. Hands up all of you who are in the first player corp you ever joined....Hands up all of you who have never ended up killing people you used to gang with.....its really just a game people.....I just get bewildered by the throbbing antagonism that seems to be so rife on these forums. (fora?).

Anyway, as you were, maybe it prevents you all going out and becoming serial killers - if so - well, that's a good thing. Just try not to take this whole thing too seriously - life is much too short.

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Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq

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Originally by: Djinn Sling

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...what can I say - when I started playing the game called Eve, I was impressed by the relative (relative) maturity of the players, as compared to the maturity of other MMO players.

These days, however, all I seem to see is "neener neener nyoo" posts on the forums. Shame on you all. Hands up all of you who are in the first player corp you ever joined....Hands up all of you who have never ended up killing people you used to gang with.....its really just a game people.....I just get bewildered by the throbbing antagonism that seems to be so rife on these forums. (fora?).

Anyway, as you were, maybe it prevents you all going out and becoming serial killers - if so - well, that's a good thing. Just try not to take this whole thing too seriously - life is much too short.

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I don't get it. What do maturity and shooting old corpmates got to do with each other?

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Originally by: band0fdevs

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Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq

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Originally by: Djinn Sling

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...what can I say - when I started playing the game called Eve, I was impressed by the relative (relative) maturity of the players, as compared to the maturity of other MMO players.

These days, however, all I seem to see is "neener neener nyoo" posts on the forums. Shame on you all. Hands up all of you who are in the first player corp you ever joined....Hands up all of you who have never ended up killing people you used to gang with.....its really just a game people.....I just get bewildered by the throbbing antagonism that seems to be so rife on these forums. (fora?).

Anyway, as you were, maybe it prevents you all going out and becoming serial killers - if so - well, that's a good thing. Just try not to take this whole thing too seriously - life is much too short.

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I don't get it. What do maturity and shooting old corpmates got to do with each other?

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turning on old corpmates provides easy targets or just a quick way to make new enemies and disturb and existing balance happens all the time

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Originally by: Kcel Chim

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Edited by: Kcel Chim on 06/07/2007 10:54:21

Originally by: Fry Fortune

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Shocked and stunned this happened since most of the digic and nez essays were about making portions of the community look inept and stupid and little just because they weren't in the old boys club. Absolutely stunning that caod should change with the times, shocking even!

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Quiet wrong, there was never an "old boys club" to start with.
If you read closer youll also find that i wrote "and the likes" which includes quiet a group of other posters too. The majority of them not sharing any political ties or views, hence its silly to argue they all followed the same stream of thought or tried to get a singular message across.
Just read the recent GS thread. Half of the replies dont span more then 2 lines. Hell, half of them arent even ontopic (hence snipped) or aimed at the content of the post they quote but just smackphrases.
Thats not a discussion thats dropping some trash. As for my other points. both Digi and Nez (among many other posters) had a sense of their character and somekind of "ehonor". You wouldnt find them lying or japping and if they got called out and had to admit defeat they apologized or stayed quiet for a few days. Even Lunas Feelgood when he started his alt campaign got caught and took a low profile. Nowadays ppl act like jackasses and dont give a damn because its all "hahaha internet". Which ruined the original more rp oriented atmosphere. An Atmosphere where it meant something to build empires and where "serious" meetings were held and agreements were sealed where honor was on the line. Nowadays ? "hahaha serious internet lulz".

With regards to the attitude, as show in the GS thread, back in the days ppl would actually feel sorry if a corptheft occured. Regardless of the affiliation. Sometimes enemies would even offer some deal or let someone off the hook. Search and read posts about the HDY corptheft or KIA thefts. Nowadays ? "owned n00b, lulz fofofo".
Same applies to corps and alliances. Missconduct was actually punished because the name of the whole group was on the line. Nowadays ? "they are iskfarmers, so what?" "he scammed you? lol owned" "he is a corpthief, and we invited him you noob!".

Attitude which has nothing to do with COAD posts but clearly shines through even on the forums.

edit: typos

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Originally by: Cringeley

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Sounds like what happens when a libertarian community gets bigger than a village.

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Originally by: Flashh Gorden

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Dont confuse the forum comunity with the actual game comunity.
Unlike many other online games EVE has a very large number of mature players.
I would say the average age of the EVE player is much higher than most other MMRPGs.
The forums will always attract alot of idiots and ****heads the type no one would listen to in real life so they post here instead.
Its a shame that nearly every serious thread gets spoilt by people with brains the size of pond life invisible to the human eye.
Fact is the vast majority of mature EVE players avoid the message baords alltogether

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Originally by: Djinn Sling

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...what can I say - when I started playing the game called Eve, I was impressed by the relative (relative) maturity of the players, as compared to the maturity of other MMO players.

These days, however, all I seem to see is "neener neener nyoo" posts on the forums. Shame on you all. Hands up all of you who are in the first player corp you ever joined....Hands up all of you who have never ended up killing people you used to gang with.....its really just a game people.....I just get bewildered by the throbbing antagonism that seems to be so rife on these forums. (fora?).

Anyway, as you were, maybe it prevents you all going out and becoming serial killers - if so - well, that's a good thing. Just try not to take this whole thing too seriously - life is much too short.

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Originally by: fire 59

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Arguing with stupid people is like trying to bite your own elbow.

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Originally by: Hydraxian

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I was Stunned and shocked once....... got given Tea when i asked for coffee

oh as per the OP, i hate you all

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Originally by: Mag's

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What... this is a game?????

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Originally by: Fry Fortune

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Originally by: Kcel Chim

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Originally by: Stahlregen

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I'm stunned and shocked that there isn't more neener neener, After all what other purpose could COAD possible serve? Other than circle jerking that is.

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well there was a time when enemies actually had a discussion on the forums and posts of more then 1 line in reply were in common. In this time some ppl roleplayed actual "pilots" with certain special habits like jade, j0sephine, Xirtam and weirda and even Molle as the evil dictator. Nowadays you only get "fofofo" spam and silly oneliners and the boards contain no real information anymore.

A few exceptions made (actually BE and Shin Ra are top notch) uve no real characters left anymore. The discussions of nez perez, digi and the likes, albeit sometimes filled with bitter hatred, but nevertheless well educated and witty get drowned in altspam, idiotposts and simple spam. Combined with an attitude of "we dont care about the game, the lore, the atmosphere. We are only in for giggles and a dramabombs to stroke our epeens". Even the holiest of all rules "never damage the company whos game u play" is broken regularly and smearcampaigns and threadnoughts dictate the "new eve".

The maturity has severly decreased -in general- tho i can say certain parties had their hands in it more then others. For those who dont care it will prolly be water in the mills, but i miss the "more serious" eve. In which reputation, ehonor and playing good or bad (nevertheless playing a character) had a meaning above "hahahah fofofofo new ship hahahhaha".

But as ive seen in the FLA thread and in hardins threads. There is still atleast a modest core of ppl who play and see the game in the same way and enjoy the same values. Characters like Ginger Magician, Stavros, Zap, Ragnar, Jade and even Xirtam can never be replaced by some youngsters enjoying "lawless internet" and acting like jackasses. Atleast in my opinion about this wonderfull game. Hence ure right Coad changed, not for the better in my view of things.

P.S. im not saying in the days of old there wasnt spam, or that there wasnt argueing. But the Coad had more temper, more emotions and more atmosphere.

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Shocked and stunned this happened since most of the digic and nez essays were about making portions of the community look inept and stupid and little just because they weren't in the old boys club. Absolutely stunning that caod should change with the times, shocking even!

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