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Djinn Sling Kokonut Krushers	Posted - 2007.07.05 22:21:00 - [1] ...what can I say - when I started playing the game called Eve, I was impressed by the relative (relative) maturity of the players, as compared to the maturity of other MMO players. These days, however, all I seem to see is "neener neener nyoo" posts on the forums. Shame on you all. Hands up all of you who are in the first player corp you ever joined....Hands up all of you who have never ended up killing people you used to gang with.....its really just a game people.....I just get bewildered by the throbbing antagonism that seems to be so rife on these forums. (fora?). Anyway, as you were, maybe it prevents you all going out and becoming serial killers - if so - well, that's a good thing. Just try not to take this whole thing too seriously - life is much too short.
Hydraxian Gallente Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.05 22:24:00 - [2] I was Stunned and shocked once....... got given Tea when i asked for coffee oh as per the OP, i hate you all
SolApathy Macabre Votum INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.07.05 22:24:00 - [3] Edited by: SolApathy on 05/07/2007 22:24:02 neener neener nyoo oh wait...dammmit only in eve can so many forget its just a game on the basis of fun! 1st w00t....dammit second Dont get angry, get even!
Fuglife Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.05 22:25:00 - [4] isn't life too short to actually care? I love coad, it cheers me up. I know Welsh Wizard! 3rd Best pvper in Eve
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.07.05 22:27:00 - [5] COAD is great tbh, tho the emos will take over soon watch it >:D - Gob Now with 20% extra emo!
AegriSomnia Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.05 22:30:00 - [6] I was stunned and shocked when I went to flip on the light switch, and I had been walking around with socks on over carpet during an electrical storm. My finger hurt for 2 days!! And BoBs lack of humor when trying to be funny naming stations. Who the heck dreampt up that name in 9-9. " The 99 words for things GOons cant do " or something like that? Shockingly unfunny. Originally by: grayson 34 Thank you for yall's advice, and a special thanks to AegriSomnia for reminding me that there are still ***holes in the world.
Djinn Sling Kokonut Krushers	Posted - 2007.07.05 22:37:00 - [7] ...don't see any hands being raised....don't make me weep people....fess up - you are all situational turncoats really - aren't you?
Fuglife Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.05 22:41:00 - [8] shocking, just stunning. I know Welsh Wizard! 3rd Best pvper in Eve
Psilocin Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.05 22:47:00 - [9] I'm shocked that you're actually looking for maturity on the internet.
Keta Min Armoured Assassins	Posted - 2007.07.05 23:20:00 - [10] Originally by: Psilocin I'm shocked that you're actually looking for maturity on the internet. i approve of your name

Mag's MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2007.07.05 23:22:00 - [11] What... this is a game?????
Psilocin Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.05 23:23:00 - [12] Originally by: Keta Min Originally by: Psilocin I'm shocked that you're actually looking for maturity on the internet. i approve of your name Likewise :D
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.05 23:29:00 - [13] Nobody Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeesssss! Originally by: Benglada And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
Myk Taison GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.05 23:30:00 - [14] i honestly think this is a plot to make people think oh i knew they were going for a titan, pity they wont have one for ages now, so we wont bother to look secretly in the bat cave quick finnish the titan before they come looking for it, our plan is working month from now boom headshot on unprepaired allaince bs/support fleet. /goons win major epeen we tricked you thread i post, yes i was right game over eve quits eve and the servers go home ok so i may have added a bit, but i do think the top bit is the real score, either way will be fun. if it is true then sucks and i got on great with the guy talked to him alot when 3FA trinity i was (yoda)
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.05 23:30:00 - [15] Originally by: Psilocin Originally by: Keta Min Originally by: Psilocin I'm shocked that you're actually looking for maturity on the internet. i approve of your name Likewise :D I approve of both as often as i can. Originally by: Benglada And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
Djinn Sling Kokonut Krushers	Posted - 2007.07.05 23:34:00 - [16] Originally by: Myk Taison i honestly think this is a plot to make people think oh i knew they were going for a titan, pity they wont have one for ages now, so we wont bother to look secretly in the bat cave quick finnish the titan before they come looking for it, our plan is working month from now boom headshot on unprepaired allaince bs/support fleet. /goons win major epeen we tricked you thread i post, yes i was right game over eve quits eve and the servers go home ok so i may have added a bit, but i do think the top bit is the real score, either way will be fun. if it is true then sucks and i got on great with the guy talked to him alot when 3FA trinity i was (yoda) replying to the wrong thread chum
Djinn Sling Kokonut Krushers	Posted - 2007.07.05 23:38:00 - [17] Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Originally by: Psilocin Originally by: Keta Min Originally by: Psilocin I'm shocked that you're actually looking for maturity on the internet. i approve of your name Likewise :D I approve of both as often as i can. hallucinogenic mushrooms and elephant tranquilisers? No wonder you don't caaaaaaaaaaare
Darth Kenzie Amarr Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.05 23:38:00 - [18] For the record: 1) Never shot at someone i used to fly with (baring thieves and the like) 2) Am in second ever player corp but still keep in touch with old one and will forever be fond of them... left on good terms because I didn't like living in the south and missed the north when they moved out of it (best move for the corp wasn't best move for me ect...). But how does this show my maturity? A mature individual can still have situation where they have to whats best for them to keep the game fun even if it means leaving old friends, its a game and if its more fun for a player to do X why shouldn't they? Should they screw their new friend for their old friends? Can you really say that if a player you'd used to fly with was on the other side of a fleet fight you would possible screw your side by refusing to shoot at them if your FC called them primary? Have your never talked to red and realized they were a fun guy and that you'd prob really like to fly with them and then still had fun beating the ** out of them? Its just happenstance who your m8's are and if they leave or you leave why shouldn't you shoot each other if global politics dictate you must (this isn't to say i'd ever just go out hunting my x-corpmates that'd just be a ** move)... I imagine most of my old corp would sit down and talk about the fight and setups with me if that where to happen no hard feelings and what not. Oh and really its a game... I'd shoot my own mother if she was part of an alliance red to mine and we'd laugh about it later cause its all for fun and no real harm is done. ------- Even my barge has kills...
Aakron Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.05 23:39:00 - [19] there can never be enough targets. Friends or ex-corp mates are those that you can count on for a good fight, you dont smack them you say GF afterwards (and you call your mate primary :P). Not shooting your ex corpmates friends nephew because you like them doesnt really float my boat ---
Stahlregen GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.05 23:47:00 - [20] I'm stunned and shocked that there isn't more neener neener, After all what other purpose could COAD possible serve? Other than circle jerking that is.

Djinn Sling Kokonut Krushers	Posted - 2007.07.05 23:47:00 - [21] Edited by: Djinn Sling on 05/07/2007 23:50:28 A mature individual can still have situation where they have to whats best for them to keep the game fun even if it means leaving old friends, its a game and if its more fun for a player to do X why shouldn't they? Should they screw their new friend for their old friends? Can you really say that if a player you'd used to fly with was on the other side of a fleet fight you would possible screw your side by refusing to shoot at them if your FC called them primary? Have your never talked to red and realized they were a fun guy and that you'd prob really like to fly with them and then still had fun beating the ** out of them? Its just happenstance who your m8's are and if they leave or you leave why shouldn't you shoot each other if global politics dictate you must (this isn't to say i'd ever just go out hunting my x-corpmates that'd just be a ** move)... I imagine most of my old corp would sit down and talk about the fight and setups with me if that where to happen no hard feelings and what not. Oh and really its a game... I'd shoot my own mother if she was part of an alliance red to mine and we'd laugh about it later cause its all for fun and no real harm is done. ...and that's precisely my point....you realise that the person you are shooting at is a perfectly decent human being, who, under different circumstances you would be flying alongside....what alarms me is the entrenched values I see sometimes on CAOD - where a tag is enough to condemn someone or make their opinion invalid. I just think that sometimes people take their alliance ticker too seriously - and start calling up all sorts of xenophobic rubbish to justify their stance. Anyway - I've posted much too much tonight - so these will be my last two words on the subject - rancid underpants
Psilocin Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.05 23:48:00 - [22] Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Originally by: Psilocin Originally by: Keta Min Originally by: Psilocin I'm shocked that you're actually looking for maturity on the internet. i approve of your name Likewise :D I approve of both as often as i can. :hifive: We should totally meet up in Empire somewhere and do boosters while watching the latest holovid.
Erik Amirault Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.05 23:52:00 - [23] What is the deal with Eve players thinking they are better than other MMO players? They somehow think they're smarter, more mature and more successful. It's obnoxious. You're playing a game. St-talk is part of gaming. If you can't handle an in game rivalry with st-talk then get off the internet because you're an oversensitive crybaby.
Myk Taison GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.05 23:53:00 - [24] umm i think that ur not paying proper attention 2 history. plenty of times in the past entire FAMILIES have been divided during civil wars or jst regular wars and then they dnt even speak 2 eachother again so read osme history b4 u post in future
Emeline Cabernet Amarr KVA Noble Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.05 23:54:00 - [25] the maturity of this game???? dude check the post from early 2003... yeah mature my ass.
deathforge The Accursed	Posted - 2007.07.06 00:01:00 - [26] Originally by: Erik Amirault What is the deal with Eve players thinking they are better than other MMO players? They somehow think they're smarter, more mature and more successful. It's obnoxious. You're playing a game. St-talk is part of gaming. If you can't handle an in game rivalry with st-talk then get off the internet because you're an oversensitive crybaby. Did you not just answer your own emo question there? And by the way, I rule you. ---------------------- Jerk + 122k skillpoints + Determination = Rifter of DoomÖ
laotse Firing Squad Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.06 00:32:00 - [27] djinn eve died a long time ago wat you see is pain from a game that is dead http://80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Omorashi Gallente Medical Miners	Posted - 2007.07.06 00:34:00 - [28] Originally by: Djinn Sling ...what can I say - when I started playing the game called Eve, I was impressed by the relative (relative) maturity of the players, as compared to the maturity of other MMO players. These days, however, all I seem to see is "neener neener nyoo" posts on the forums. Shame on you all. Hands up all of you who are in the first player corp you ever joined....Hands up all of you who have never ended up killing people you used to gang with.....its really just a game people.....I just get bewildered by the throbbing antagonism that seems to be so rife on these forums. (fora?). Anyway, as you were, maybe it prevents you all going out and becoming serial killers - if so - well, that's a good thing. Just try not to take this whole thing too seriously - life is much too short. Would a hug make you feel better? they make me feel better.
Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2007.07.06 10:03:00 - [29] Originally by: Stahlregen I'm stunned and shocked that there isn't more neener neener, After all what other purpose could COAD possible serve? Other than circle jerking that is. well there was a time when enemies actually had a discussion on the forums and posts of more then 1 line in reply were in common. In this time some ppl roleplayed actual "pilots" with certain special habits like jade, j0sephine, Xirtam and weirda and even Molle as the evil dictator. Nowadays you only get "fofofo" spam and silly oneliners and the boards contain no real information anymore. A few exceptions made (actually BE and Shin Ra are top notch) uve no real characters left anymore. The discussions of nez perez, digi and the likes, albeit sometimes filled with bitter hatred, but nevertheless well educated and witty get drowned in altspam, idiotposts and simple spam. Combined with an attitude of "we dont care about the game, the lore, the atmosphere. We are only in for giggles and a dramabombs to stroke our epeens". Even the holiest of all rules "never damage the company whos game u play" is broken regularly and smearcampaigns and threadnoughts dictate the "new eve". The maturity has severly decreased -in general- tho i can say certain parties had their hands in it more then others. For those who dont care it will prolly be water in the mills, but i miss the "more serious" eve. In which reputation, ehonor and playing good or bad (nevertheless playing a character) had a meaning above "hahahah fofofofo new ship hahahhaha". But as ive seen in the FLA thread and in hardins threads. There is still atleast a modest core of ppl who play and see the game in the same way and enjoy the same values. Characters like Ginger Magician, Stavros, Zap, Ragnar, Jade and even Xirtam can never be replaced by some youngsters enjoying "lawless internet" and acting like jackasses. Atleast in my opinion about this wonderfull game. Hence ure right Coad changed, not for the better in my view of things. P.S. im not saying in the days of old there wasnt spam, or that there wasnt argueing. But the Coad had more temper, more emotions and more atmosphere.
Fry Fortune Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.06 10:23:00 - [30] Originally by: Kcel Chim Originally by: Stahlregen I'm stunned and shocked that there isn't more neener neener, After all what other purpose could COAD possible serve? Other than circle jerking that is. well there was a time when enemies actually had a discussion on the forums and posts of more then 1 line in reply were in common. In this time some ppl roleplayed actual "pilots" with certain special habits like jade, j0sephine, Xirtam and weirda and even Molle as the evil dictator. Nowadays you only get "fofofo" spam and silly oneliners and the boards contain no real information anymore. A few exceptions made (actually BE and Shin Ra are top notch) uve no real characters left anymore. The discussions of nez perez, digi and the likes, albeit sometimes filled with bitter hatred, but nevertheless well educated and witty get drowned in altspam, idiotposts and simple spam. Combined with an attitude of "we dont care about the game, the lore, the atmosphere. We are only in for giggles and a dramabombs to stroke our epeens". Even the holiest of all rules "never damage the company whos game u play" is broken regularly and smearcampaigns and threadnoughts dictate the "new eve". The maturity has severly decreased -in general- tho i can say certain parties had their hands in it more then others. For those who dont care it will prolly be water in the mills, but i miss the "more serious" eve. In which reputation, ehonor and playing good or bad (nevertheless playing a character) had a meaning above "hahahah fofofofo new ship hahahhaha". But as ive seen in the FLA thread and in hardins threads. There is still atleast a modest core of ppl who play and see the game in the same way and enjoy the same values. Characters like Ginger Magician, Stavros, Zap, Ragnar, Jade and even Xirtam can never be replaced by some youngsters enjoying "lawless internet" and acting like jackasses. Atleast in my opinion about this wonderfull game. Hence ure right Coad changed, not for the better in my view of things. P.S. im not saying in the days of old there wasnt spam, or that there wasnt argueing. But the Coad had more temper, more emotions and more atmosphere. Shocked and stunned this happened since most of the digic and nez essays were about making portions of the community look inept and stupid and little just because they weren't in the old boys club. Absolutely stunning that caod should change with the times, shocking even!

Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2007.07.06 10:50:00 - [31] Edited by: Kcel Chim on 06/07/2007 10:54:21 Originally by: Fry Fortune Shocked and stunned this happened since most of the digic and nez essays were about making portions of the community look inept and stupid and little just because they weren't in the old boys club. Absolutely stunning that caod should change with the times, shocking even! Quiet wrong, there was never an "old boys club" to start with. If you read closer youll also find that i wrote "and the likes" which includes quiet a group of other posters too. The majority of them not sharing any political ties or views, hence its silly to argue they all followed the same stream of thought or tried to get a singular message across. Just read the recent GS thread. Half of the replies dont span more then 2 lines. Hell, half of them arent even ontopic (hence snipped) or aimed at the content of the post they quote but just smackphrases. Thats not a discussion thats dropping some trash. As for my other points. both Digi and Nez (among many other posters) had a sense of their character and somekind of "ehonor". You wouldnt find them lying or japping and if they got called out and had to admit defeat they apologized or stayed quiet for a few days. Even Lunas Feelgood when he started his alt campaign got caught and took a low profile. Nowadays ppl act like jackasses and dont give a damn because its all "hahaha internet". Which ruined the original more rp oriented atmosphere. An Atmosphere where it meant something to build empires and where "serious" meetings were held and agreements were sealed where honor was on the line. Nowadays ? "hahaha serious internet lulz". With regards to the attitude, as show in the GS thread, back in the days ppl would actually feel sorry if a corptheft occured. Regardless of the affiliation. Sometimes enemies would even offer some deal or let someone off the hook. Search and read posts about the HDY corptheft or KIA thefts. Nowadays ? "owned n00b, lulz fofofo". Same applies to corps and alliances. Missconduct was actually punished because the name of the whole group was on the line. Nowadays ? "they are iskfarmers, so what?" "he scammed you? lol owned" "he is a corpthief, and we invited him you noob!". Attitude which has nothing to do with COAD posts but clearly shines through even on the forums. edit: typos
band0fdevs Gallente Band of Dev's	Posted - 2007.07.06 11:00:00 - [32] its moving onwards and upwards
Karim alRashid Gallente principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.06 11:03:00 - [33] Originally by: Kcel Chim Originally by: Stahlregen I'm stunned and shocked that there isn't more neener neener, After all what other purpose could COAD possible serve? Other than circle jerking that is. well there was a time when enemies actually had a discussion on the forums and posts of more then 1 line in reply were in common. In this time some ppl roleplayed actual "pilots" with certain special habits like jade, j0sephine, Xirtam and weirda and even Molle as the evil dictator. Nowadays you only get "fofofo" spam and silly oneliners and the boards contain no real information anymore. A few exceptions made (actually BE and Shin Ra are top notch) uve no real characters left anymore. The discussions of nez perez, digi and the likes, albeit sometimes filled with bitter hatred, but nevertheless well educated and witty get drowned in altspam, idiotposts and simple spam. Combined with an attitude of "we dont care about the game, the lore, the atmosphere. We are only in for giggles and a dramabombs to stroke our epeens". Even the holiest of all rules "never damage the company whos game u play" is broken regularly and smearcampaigns and threadnoughts dictate the "new eve". The maturity has severly decreased -in general- tho i can say certain parties had their hands in it more then others. For those who dont care it will prolly be water in the mills, but i miss the "more serious" eve. In which reputation, ehonor and playing good or bad (nevertheless playing a character) had a meaning above "hahahah fofofofo new ship hahahhaha". But as ive seen in the FLA thread and in hardins threads. There is still atleast a modest core of ppl who play and see the game in the same way and enjoy the same values. Characters like Ginger Magician, Stavros, Zap, Ragnar, Jade and even Xirtam can never be replaced by some youngsters enjoying "lawless internet" and acting like jackasses. Atleast in my opinion about this wonderfull game. Hence ure right Coad changed, not for the better in my view of things. P.S. im not saying in the days of old there wasnt spam, or that there wasnt argueing. But the Coad had more temper, more emotions and more atmosphere. tl;dr
Pehova Mindtriq Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.06 11:09:00 - [34] Originally by: Djinn Sling ...what can I say - when I started playing the game called Eve, I was impressed by the relative (relative) maturity of the players, as compared to the maturity of other MMO players. These days, however, all I seem to see is "neener neener nyoo" posts on the forums. Shame on you all. Hands up all of you who are in the first player corp you ever joined....Hands up all of you who have never ended up killing people you used to gang with.....its really just a game people.....I just get bewildered by the throbbing antagonism that seems to be so rife on these forums. (fora?). Anyway, as you were, maybe it prevents you all going out and becoming serial killers - if so - well, that's a good thing. Just try not to take this whole thing too seriously - life is much too short. I don't get it. What do maturity and shooting old corpmates got to do with each other? Celestial Apocalypse Recruitment
band0fdevs Gallente Band of Dev's	Posted - 2007.07.06 11:10:00 - [35] Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq Originally by: Djinn Sling ...what can I say - when I started playing the game called Eve, I was impressed by the relative (relative) maturity of the players, as compared to the maturity of other MMO players. These days, however, all I seem to see is "neener neener nyoo" posts on the forums. Shame on you all. Hands up all of you who are in the first player corp you ever joined....Hands up all of you who have never ended up killing people you used to gang with.....its really just a game people.....I just get bewildered by the throbbing antagonism that seems to be so rife on these forums. (fora?). Anyway, as you were, maybe it prevents you all going out and becoming serial killers - if so - well, that's a good thing. Just try not to take this whole thing too seriously - life is much too short. I don't get it. What do maturity and shooting old corpmates got to do with each other? turning on old corpmates provides easy targets or just a quick way to make new enemies and disturb and existing balance happens all the time
Pehova Mindtriq Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.06 11:55:00 - [36] Originally by: band0fdevs Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq Originally by: Djinn Sling ...what can I say - when I started playing the game called Eve, I was impressed by the relative (relative) maturity of the players, as compared to the maturity of other MMO players. These days, however, all I seem to see is "neener neener nyoo" posts on the forums. Shame on you all. Hands up all of you who are in the first player corp you ever joined....Hands up all of you who have never ended up killing people you used to gang with.....its really just a game people.....I just get bewildered by the throbbing antagonism that seems to be so rife on these forums. (fora?). Anyway, as you were, maybe it prevents you all going out and becoming serial killers - if so - well, that's a good thing. Just try not to take this whole thing too seriously - life is much too short. I don't get it. What do maturity and shooting old corpmates got to do with each other? turning on old corpmates provides easy targets or just a quick way to make new enemies and disturb and existing balance happens all the time I've changed corp alot of times but that doesn't mean I've done what you describe. The OP and you make it sound like just because you shoot old friends you are backstabbing them. I've killed and have been killed by old corpmates and it's been a laugh because afterwards you can chat with the pilot because there is a mutual respect since you have flown with the pilot before. The OP shouldn't write "are you in your first corp..." instead he should write "have you backstabbed you friends". Celestial Apocalypse Recruitment
band0fdevs Gallente Band of Dev's	Posted - 2007.07.06 11:56:00 - [37] u just change banners its all internet space ships anyway
darth solo Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.06 12:01:00 - [38] iv been smack talked pretty much from day one, my topics are usually always spammed with useless spew. im flamed ingame and out. would i like it anyother way?, hell no ... If i wanted to play a game with bunnies and fairies id have played WOW (bunnies in WOW?).. this is a mans game:). d solo. RECRUITING... visit www.celesapoc.com ingame channel "celespublic" for recruitment or chat
Reverend Revelator Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.07.06 12:35:00 - [39] Edited by: Reverend Revelator on 06/07/2007 12:37:14 Sooooooo... someone from K K K is complaining about the nastiness of EVE population? Funneh... EDIT: Turns out EVE isnt just going for MMOdoms Worst Website Award, they are also going for Dumbest Profanity Filter Award -- Dead People Laugh At The Murder Of Love --
Cringeley GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.06 12:38:00 - [40] Originally by: Kcel Chim Edited by: Kcel Chim on 06/07/2007 10:54:21 Originally by: Fry Fortune Shocked and stunned this happened since most of the digic and nez essays were about making portions of the community look inept and stupid and little just because they weren't in the old boys club. Absolutely stunning that caod should change with the times, shocking even! Quiet wrong, there was never an "old boys club" to start with. If you read closer youll also find that i wrote "and the likes" which includes quiet a group of other posters too. The majority of them not sharing any political ties or views, hence its silly to argue they all followed the same stream of thought or tried to get a singular message across. Just read the recent GS thread. Half of the replies dont span more then 2 lines. Hell, half of them arent even ontopic (hence snipped) or aimed at the content of the post they quote but just smackphrases. Thats not a discussion thats dropping some trash. As for my other points. both Digi and Nez (among many other posters) had a sense of their character and somekind of "ehonor". You wouldnt find them lying or japping and if they got called out and had to admit defeat they apologized or stayed quiet for a few days. Even Lunas Feelgood when he started his alt campaign got caught and took a low profile. Nowadays ppl act like jackasses and dont give a damn because its all "hahaha internet". Which ruined the original more rp oriented atmosphere. An Atmosphere where it meant something to build empires and where "serious" meetings were held and agreements were sealed where honor was on the line. Nowadays ? "hahaha serious internet lulz". With regards to the attitude, as show in the GS thread, back in the days ppl would actually feel sorry if a corptheft occured. Regardless of the affiliation. Sometimes enemies would even offer some deal or let someone off the hook. Search and read posts about the HDY corptheft or KIA thefts. Nowadays ? "owned n00b, lulz fofofo". Same applies to corps and alliances. Missconduct was actually punished because the name of the whole group was on the line. Nowadays ? "they are iskfarmers, so what?" "he scammed you? lol owned" "he is a corpthief, and we invited him you noob!". Attitude which has nothing to do with COAD posts but clearly shines through even on the forums. edit: typos Sounds like what happens when a libertarian community gets bigger than a village.

Flashh Gorden Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.06 15:23:00 - [41] Dont confuse the forum comunity with the actual game comunity. Unlike many other online games EVE has a very large number of mature players. I would say the average age of the EVE player is much higher than most other MMRPGs. The forums will always attract alot of idiots and ****heads the type no one would listen to in real life so they post here instead. Its a shame that nearly every serious thread gets spoilt by people with brains the size of pond life invisible to the human eye. Fact is the vast majority of mature EVE players avoid the message baords alltogether
Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2007.07.06 15:31:00 - [42] Originally by: Cringeley Sounds like what happens when a libertarian community gets bigger than a village. So ure advocating that its normal for a bigger playerbase to decrease in quality ? Hence in process ruining the unique atmosphere of a spaceship mmporg (the r is actually for roleplaying)? Sorry i got the impression that as of late alot of ppl singed up who simply have no interest in meeting ppl and playing the game with all facets but would rather stick in their own community and bend the game towards their polarisation. We had threadnoughts to nerf titans, we have threadnoughts on every bigger or smaller achievement and we have open letters whenever someone feels there might be an illdoing. Not just inside the community but also to newspapers and news sites. Check why SHC is so popular and why i.e. the criminal forum is popular or some other external forums compared to COAD. In general ppl are told to behave and those who just troll will usally be met with the banstick, regardless of their corp or alliance. An approach i wholeheartly applaude. In all those forums obvious alts, especially those who dont roleplay in the slightest get terminated after a very short period of time. This is no discussion about moderation tho, the evemods do an awesome job considering the crap they get bathed in every day. Just open the forums at any morning during a regular week. 5+ locked threads, dozends of deleted posts and snipped posts and tons of warnings and bans behind the scences. Just in 1 section of the forum. Just because ppl cant be mature and think the ability to connect to the internet also gives permission to act completely out of line and ********. In the past the community (the village as you called it) acted upon that and elements were sanctioned from their own kind aswell (internal forumbans, members kicked etc) these regulations seem to have gone overboard and now its just a ffa of idiocy and 1-liner replies of far too obvious alts. Band of devs in Band of devs corp ? The name alone deserves a ban in my personal opinion.
Orlando Gardner Amarr The Older Gamers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.07.06 15:32:00 - [43] Edited by: Orlando Gardner on 06/07/2007 15:32:20 that is Shocking AND a little bit stunning... sort of its a one liner but im not an alt ... oh the humanity
Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2007.07.06 15:36:00 - [44] Originally by: Flashh Gorden Dont confuse the forum comunity with the actual game comunity. Unlike many other online games EVE has a very large number of mature players. I would say the average age of the EVE player is much higher than most other MMRPGs. The forums will always attract alot of idiots and ****heads the type no one would listen to in real life so they post here instead. Its a shame that nearly every serious thread gets spoilt by people with brains the size of pond life invisible to the human eye. Fact is the vast majority of mature EVE players avoid the message baords alltogether I find myself agreeing with you. The ppl are still out there but they are not as vocal as the lesser kind and their posts get drowned like you said. I stopped posting here for the very same reason and the thread on the frontpage of this section show exactly why it is usually a good choice. I personally think its sad if the "political discussion" area of the a rich game like eve which offers so much drama and politics degenerates to such levels. A statement which has nothing to do with "sides", "alliances" or a group one favours.
Kerosene Caldari Fun Inc Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2007.07.06 20:17:00 - [45] I'm a 2003 player and been in my fair share of corps. Some I've shot at, some I've not. Depends on the type of corp. STK for example think higher of me when I don't pew them even when red and just say hello. Euphoria Released on the other hand would be insulted if I didn't go hell for leather after them if I saw them in local. Moving corps doesn't dictate whether you're a backstabber/traitor etc, it's your actions that decide that. As for the old-school thing, I agree with that Goon who said that the old school have mostly left and it's a new eve order on these forums now. I can't say I like this new order much but then I didn't like the old one either. I just think that people who feel the need to post utter crap all the time don't deserve any respect. Respect for me comes from those who bring it in game, not here. Kero __ The way to stop isk farmers is to STOP BUYING ISK.
Zagum Darkfin Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.06 20:50:00 - [46] You should have been here for Ragnar the Magic Hat, Annue, The "bagdad bob" Reclaimer, Duke Digglar( OC guy), and a few other Drama Queens who would write stuff just to get a rise out of people. The level of lying was epic. I think in the last year the tard brigade has invade the forums to some extent and crying has become a new artform. Just kill them all and let God sort them out. ..i..
Dr Slaughter Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.07.06 22:38:00 - [47] Edited by: Dr Slaughter on 06/07/2007 22:38:03 Originally by: Djinn Sling ...what can I say - when I started playing the game called Eve, I was impressed by the relative (relative) maturity of the players, as compared to the maturity of other MMO players. These days, however, all I seem to see is "neener neener nyoo" posts on the forums. Shame on you all. Hands up all of you who are in the first player corp you ever joined....Hands up all of you who have never ended up killing people you used to gang with.....its really just a game people.....I just get bewildered by the throbbing antagonism that seems to be so rife on these forums. (fora?). Anyway, as you were, maybe it prevents you all going out and becoming serial killers - if so - well, that's a good thing. Just try not to take this whole thing too seriously - life is much too short. COAD isn't frequented by much rationality but then again Thomas Aquinas doesn't play Eve either Originally by: fire 59 Arguing with stupid people is like trying to bite your own elbow.
Euthanasia XXX hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.07.06 22:50:00 - [48] ___________________________ This space for rent
jdok Gallente The Burning Orphans Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.07.07 00:56:00 - [49] Originally by: Hydraxian I was Stunned and shocked once....... got given Tea when i asked for coffee oh as per the OP, i hate you all that happened to me the other day! I was quite confused.
The Hooch Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.07 03:10:00 - [50] Originally by: Mag's What... this is a game????? The hell you say?

Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.07 10:20:00 - [51] Originally by: Fry Fortune Originally by: Kcel Chim Originally by: Stahlregen I'm stunned and shocked that there isn't more neener neener, After all what other purpose could COAD possible serve? Other than circle jerking that is. well there was a time when enemies actually had a discussion on the forums and posts of more then 1 line in reply were in common. In this time some ppl roleplayed actual "pilots" with certain special habits like jade, j0sephine, Xirtam and weirda and even Molle as the evil dictator. Nowadays you only get "fofofo" spam and silly oneliners and the boards contain no real information anymore. A few exceptions made (actually BE and Shin Ra are top notch) uve no real characters left anymore. The discussions of nez perez, digi and the likes, albeit sometimes filled with bitter hatred, but nevertheless well educated and witty get drowned in altspam, idiotposts and simple spam. Combined with an attitude of "we dont care about the game, the lore, the atmosphere. We are only in for giggles and a dramabombs to stroke our epeens". Even the holiest of all rules "never damage the company whos game u play" is broken regularly and smearcampaigns and threadnoughts dictate the "new eve". The maturity has severly decreased -in general- tho i can say certain parties had their hands in it more then others. For those who dont care it will prolly be water in the mills, but i miss the "more serious" eve. In which reputation, ehonor and playing good or bad (nevertheless playing a character) had a meaning above "hahahah fofofofo new ship hahahhaha". But as ive seen in the FLA thread and in hardins threads. There is still atleast a modest core of ppl who play and see the game in the same way and enjoy the same values. Characters like Ginger Magician, Stavros, Zap, Ragnar, Jade and even Xirtam can never be replaced by some youngsters enjoying "lawless internet" and acting like jackasses. Atleast in my opinion about this wonderfull game. Hence ure right Coad changed, not for the better in my view of things. P.S. im not saying in the days of old there wasnt spam, or that there wasnt argueing. But the Coad had more temper, more emotions and more atmosphere. Shocked and stunned this happened since most of the digic and nez essays were about making portions of the community look inept and stupid and little just because they weren't in the old boys club. Absolutely stunning that caod should change with the times, shocking even! Hey that's not fair a good portion of nez posts are armchair psychology or color-commentary approaching john madden levels of stating the obvious
Lady Weaksauce Brotherhood of Polar Equation Mordus Angels	Posted - 2007.07.07 10:22:00 - [52] Edited by: Lady Weaksauce on 07/07/2007 10:23:03 i was shocked and stunned when i realised that original poster has aged and doesnt seem to understand that not everyone is as old
Kharadran Sullath Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.07 18:24:00 - [53] Edited by: Kharadran Sullath on 07/07/2007 18:25:23 EVE is officially an evil and harsh world with self serving bastards and malevolent people of all kinds? Congratulations devs! ------ --Don't get saucy with me Bernaise!--
Malcanis High4Life Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.07 18:33:00 - [54] http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/11/03 CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.


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