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Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.12 05:18:00 -
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Curious "minutes," Lady Neferis. They read rather more like maxims-- "Twenty-two Sayings of Our Sovereign, Revan Neferis."
Alternately, "Two and Twenty Truths of the Rich and Self-Consciously Depraved."
It's a pity that your comments since have demonstrated an ironically less-than-sanguine frame of mind-- or weren't these posted here for all of us peons to marvel over? Do you take offense to infidels criticizing the minutes of your meeting, dread sovereign? It seems as though there might be several worthwhile conversations for us all to have here, and it seems also as though you're bound and determined to forestall any such conversation before it can begin.
If so, I suppose I'll just look to Leon and Meb if I need additional information on the practices of your faith. But then, since I'm a lesser being and very happily an infidel anyway, I'm sure that's small loss in your eyes.
May the successor you wait for find you soon. I wonder, do you long for that day?
Aria Jenneth
Hakase 016
Omerta Syndicate
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Revan Neferis
Amarr
Bloodveil
The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.07.12 05:38:00 -
[32]
 Originally by: Aria Jenneth
Curious "minutes," Lady Neferis. They read rather more like maxims-- "Twenty-two Sayings of Our Sovereign, Revan Neferis."
Alternately, "Two and Twenty Truths of the Rich and Self-Consciously Depraved."
Read it as you wish, makes no change to its content.
Originally by: Aria Jenneth
Do you take offense to infidels criticizing the minutes of your meeting, dread sovereign?
No, infidels are infidels, brainless.
Originally by: Aria Jenneth
If so, I suppose I'll just look to Leon and Meb if I need additional information on the practices of your faith.
Bloodveil is my faith, so you start with an incorrect argument.
But considering your ignorance, I asume you would like to say "to seek for information on "Sani Sabik philosophy" and for that doesn't matter where you seek it.
Originally by: Aria Jenneth
But then, since I'm a lesser being and very happily an infidel anyway, I'm sure that's small loss in your eyes.
Lesser beings doesn't even count in my eyes.
Originally by: Aria Jenneth
May the successor you wait for find you soon. I wonder, do you long for that day?
Aria Jenneth
Hakase 016
Omerta Syndicate
I have eternity to wait. The Universe will tell.
"One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
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3ll3
Gallente
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.07.12 15:09:00 -
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I have only faults with following points.
3. I have desires or ambitions to become a person of power for I am happy where I am, I prefer to look at people as equals never look up or down upon any one.
4. I didn't understand any of that, true I am not the smartest of beings but what did all of point actually mean in layman terms?
5. I do not believe in the law of nature when the strong survive while the weak die, for me the strong are there to protect and help the weak.
7. Isk isnĘt every thing there is much it can not buy, only a fake facsimile to it such as true love and true loyalty.
These must be earned and can never be brought.
9. Come again? @_@
10. See above.
12. Right is the opposite of Left I all ways thought.
15 Power is meaningless on it's own, You need more than Power more than Isk to be invincible.
16. You mean by using the Mean's to justify the Cause?
21. Some times the Sledge Hammer of unsophisticated methods of War work better than those of Sharp Precise Executions.
22. Push people too far and they will not care how merciless you are they shall rise up and fight to the last.
Verus Amare Vinceres Omnis |
3ll3
Gallente
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.07.17 07:25:00 -
[34]
No Seriously These are Real Honest Questions not an attempt to Insult or Be-Little what you have laid out before us all.
I Simply Wish to have cleared that which I do not under-stand
Verus Amare Vinceres Omnis |
Revan Neferis
Amarr
Bloodveil
The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.07.17 09:33:00 -
[35]
Originally by: 3ll3
No Seriously These are Real Honest Questions not an attempt to Insult or Be-Little what you have laid out before us all.
I Simply Wish to have cleared that which I do not under-stand
You're not askin questions but exposing your point of views.
I have no reasons to discuss points of view. The Sani Sabik ideals are embraced to the ones who understands them. I have no need to convince anyone of its undeniable truth.
"One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
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3ll3
Gallente
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.07.17 20:35:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Revan Neferis
You're not askin questions but exposing your point of views.
I have no reasons to discuss points of view. The Sani Sabik ideals are embraced to the ones who understands them. I have no need to convince anyone of its undeniable truth.
Actual I was refering to:
Quote:
9. Come again? @_@
10. See above.
I should have been more precise for that I apologise, just that points 9 and 10 didn't make any sense to me what so ever 
Verus Amare Vinceres Omnis |
Revan Neferis
Amarr
Bloodveil
The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.07.21 08:15:00 -
[37]
Protocols II - Our Weapon
I- To-day I may tell you that our goal is now only a few steps off. There remains a small space to cross and the whole long path we have trodden is ready now to close its cycle. When this ring closes, all the Nations of EvE will be locked in war and chaos as in a powerful vice.
III - In order to incite seekers after power to a misuse of power we have set all forces in opposition one to another, breaking up their liberal tendencies towards independence. To this end we have stirred up every form of enterprise, we have armed all parties, we have set up authority as a target for every ambition. Of Systems we have made gladiatorial arenas where a lot of confused issues contend .... A little more, and disorders and bankruptcy will be universal .
V - Babblers, inexhaustible, have turned into oratorical contests the fate of alliances and military forces. Abuses of power will put the final touch in preparing all institutions for their overthrow and everything will fly skyward under the blows of the maddened mob.
VII - All people are chained down to heavy toil by poverty more firmly than ever. They were chained by slavery and serfdom; from these, one way and another, they might free themselves. These could be settled with, but from want they will never get away. People depends of OUR FORTUNE.
IX - By want and the envy and hatred which it engenders we shall move the mobs and with their hands we shall wipe out all those who hinder us on our way.
XI - We have demonstrated that progress will bring all the infidels to the sovereignty of reason. Our despotism will be precisely that; for it will know how, by wise severities, to pacificate all unrest, to cauterize "liberalism" out of all institutions.
XIII - At the present day we are, as an international force, invincible. The word "freedom" brings out the communities of men to fight against every kind of force, against every kind of authority even against the laws of nature. For this reason we shall have to erase this word from the lexicon of life as implying a principle of brute force which turns mobs into bloodthirsty beasts.
These beasts, it is true, fall asleep again every time when they have drunk their fill of blood, and at such time can easily be riveted into their chains. But if they be not given blood they will not sleep and continue to struggle.
"Who and what is in a position to overthrow an invisible force? And this is precisely what our force is. Bloodveil gently serves as a screen for us and our objects, but the plan of action of our force, even its very abiding-place, remains for the whole people an unknown mystery."
"One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
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3ll3
Gallente
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.07.21 10:21:00 -
[38]
Edited by: 3ll3 on 21/07/2007 10:21:45
Nice dream and I hope it works out for you as it's your dream and dearest desire, also interesting will be when the Invincible force clashs with the Indomitable Will...
Verus Amare Vinceres Omnis |
Number 17
Caldari
COLD-Wing
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2007.07.22 11:38:00 -
[39]
"Memories of an Amarr Opium Eater" by Revan Neferis.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr
Bloodveil
The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.07.26 11:16:00 -
[40]
Protocols III
"Away with them and give us one RULER over all the Universe who will unite us and annihilate the causes of disorders - frontiers, nationalities, religions, State debts - who will give us peace and quiet which we cannot find under our rulers and representatives."
II - It's our duty to to emphasize the sucessive mistakes of the Loyalists Infidels which have tormented humanity for so many centuries by their lack of understanding of everything that constitutes the true good of humanity in their chase after fantastic schemes of social blessings, and have never noticed that these schemes kept on producing a worse and never a better state of the universal relations which are the basis of human life .
IV - The whole force of our principles and methods is based in the fact that we shall present them and expound them as a splendid contrast to the dead and decomposed old order of things in social life
VI - For some time after our entrance to power we shall continue to encourage its existence in order to provide a telling relief by contrast to the speeches, party program, which will be distributed from exalted quarters of ours .... Our wise men, trained to become leaders of the Infidels, will compose speeches, projects, memoirs, articles, which will be used by us to enlight the minds of the infidels, directing them towards such understanding and forms of knowledge as have been determined by us to the well being of all.
VIII - And how far-seeing were our learned elders in ancient times when they said that to attain a serious end it behooves not to stop at any means or to count the victims sacrificed for the sake of that end ....
X - Resolutions of our government will be final, without appeal.
"One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
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Angelice
Minmatar
Dark and Light inc.
D-L
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Posted - 2007.07.26 12:31:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Revan Neferis
3. It must be noted that men with bad instincts are more in number than the good, and therefore the best results in governing them are attained by violence and terrorisation, and not by academic discussions. Every man aims at power, everyone would like to become a dictator if only he could, and rare indeed are the men who understands that just a few are born for greatness and the others exists to feed the mind and needs of these geniouses.
Instincts are one of the only common qualities among all mankind, they are the legacy of our evolution. I suspect you confuse instinct with conscience which is ideally determined by applying the simple rule of treating others as you would wish to be treated yourself.
The person who least desires power is the person who is least likely to abuse said power and thus the best candidate to obtain it.
Due to the nature of our existence, determinism is an immaterial notion that cannot be evidenced in fact and therefore by your initial statement should play no part in your analysis.
Originally by: Revan Neferis
5. In the beginnings of the structure of society, they were subjected to brutal and blind force; after words - to Law, which is the same force, only disguised. I draw the conclusion that by the law of nature right lies in force.
I submit that the beginnings of society were structured around the communal desire to survive. As a result of inherent instincts to do so and the increase of intelligence in our species allowing us to develop better methods of doing so, society was born.
Originally by: Revan Neferis
6. Political freedom is an idea but not a fact. This idea one must know how to apply whenever it appears necessary with this bait of an idea to attract the masses of the people to one's party for the purpose of crushing another who is in authority. This task is rendered easier of the opponent has himself been infected with the idea of freedom, and, for the sake of an idea, is willing to yield some of his power.
"Power" in the political sense is also only an idea. In it's true sense it is the capacity to do work and is subject to the universal laws of cause and effect. These laws cannot be indefinately bound.
Originally by: Revan Neferis
7. In our day the power which has replaced that of the rulers who were liberal is the power of isk. Time was when Faith ruled. The idea of freedom is impossible of realization because no one knows how to use it. It is enough to hand over a people to self-government for a certain length of time for that people to be turned into a disorganized mob. From that moment on we get internecine strife which soon develops into battles between classes, in the midst of which alliances and corporations burn down and their importance is reduced to that of a heap of ashes.
The very definition of freedom entails that there is no set way to use it. It is non-sensical to imply that freedom has an inherent purpose. It follows that with freedom, one is able to decide upon their own purpose and act accordingly.
Originally by: Revan Neferis
9. Should anyone of a liberal mind say that such reflections as the above are immoral, I would put the following questions: If every power has two foes and if in regard to the external foe it is allowed and not considered immoral to use every manner and art of conflict, as for example to keep the enemy in ignorance of plans of attack and defense, to attack him by night or in superior numbers, then in what way can the same means in regard to a worse foe, the destroyer of the structure of society and the commonweal, be called immoral and not permissible?
Again I would state that conscience should be dictated by applying the rule that you treat others as you yourself would want to be treated. Where one person's conscience is in conflict with another's they must seek a way to resolve said conflict since ethical argument is meaningless and immaterial.
Angelice
Dark & Light
"To see the right and not to do it is cowardice." - Confucius
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Angelice
Minmatar
Dark and Light inc.
D-L
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Posted - 2007.07.26 12:44:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Revan Neferis
14. In any Alliance in which there is a bad organization of authority, an impersonality of laws and of the rulers who have lost their personality amid the flood of rights ever multiplying out of liberalism, I find a new right - to attack by the right of the strong, and to scatter to the winds all existing forces of order and regulation, to reconstruct all institutions and to become the sovereign of those who have left to us the rights of their power by laying them down voluntarily in their liberalism.
I submit that the idea of liberalism is more powerful than the notion of coformity since it allows for further freedom of thought and thus versatility than would be accorded under the latter. This can be inferred in purely economic terms when you compare the financial capacity of a liberal market as opposed to that of protectionism which, as time passes, becomes increasingly isolated and viewed as hostile by it's peers only to ultimately submit to the free market when it realises it can no longer provide sufficient protection to survive.
I feel there is no longer any reason for me to counter your arguments since they are based on false principals. Your insistence that citizens are unable to act for the greater good betrays your lack of faith in mankind. Your belief that violence is an effective political tool tells me that your ability to think in the long term is limited. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction therefore by your own objectives it is desirable to obtain neutrality in order for negative action to cease.
Angelice
Dark & Light
"To see the right and not to do it is cowardice." - Confucius
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Xavier Fate
Gallente
Phoenix Wing
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.07.26 15:02:00 -
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Quote:
I feel there is no longer any reason for me to counter your arguments since they are based on false principals. Your insistence that citizens are unable to act for the greater good betrays your lack of faith in mankind. Your belief that violence is an effective political tool tells me that your ability to think in the long term is limited. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction therefore by your own objectives it is desirable to obtain neutrality in order for negative action to cease.
1.) Given the freedom to choose, most people will not act in the cause of the greater over the cause of personal benefit. Some will, but not a majority. Since the majority [i]is the power of the mob[i] the statement that people will not act in the greater is accurate overall. You need only look to our own pod-pilot organizations to figure out that a vast majorityof individuals and corporatiosn are self serving as a rule.
2.) As far as actions and reactions, this is true in physics, but not quite true in life. While I have often hoped that one day I would undock and find Utopia outside, instead I continue to see war. War will continue until there is only one side left.
If you utterly destroy your enemy, there is no equal retaliation. If you break his will to fight by consistent and endless atrocities of violence, there is no equal retaliation. No, the laws of physics do not govern the will of man.
As far as I can tell, Total Annhilation and/or Total Assimilation of all non-conformists is perhaps the only path to total peace. Wherever there is disagreement, there is war.
In summary, while I see your statement for what it is - honest, hopeful, naive - I also see it for what it isn't - true.
I pity you a little. I was once as hopeful for the cause of peace and justice as you. In the end, I have discovered, these words are the battlecries of puppeteers who have no inclination of making such things real.
It's just and endless cycle - 'Rally and Destroy' all the while believing that you are in fact serving a Greater Good that does not exist beyond the propaganda that fuels you.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr
Bloodveil
The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.07.26 15:10:00 -
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Very good approach Mr. Xavier.
You caught my attention with your somewhat accurate undertanding of the protocols. And I ay somewhat, simply because there is more to see of it.
I'll keep following your transmissions with interest.
Revan Neferis
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign of The Sani Sabik
"One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
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Tenebrion Darkness
Amarr
United Technologies II
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Posted - 2007.07.26 22:21:00 -
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I will just say Protocol III - II goes both ways. And if that wasn't blunt enough, you are guilty of the same shortcommings.
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GreatObsidianDevil
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.07.27 06:50:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Revan Neferis
Protocols II - Our Weapon
"Who and what is in a position to overthrow an invisible force? And this is precisely what our force is. Bloodveil gently serves as a screen for us and our objects, but the plan of action of our force, even its very abiding-place, remains for the whole people an unknown mystery."
Pardon my intrusion,
I can vouch for half that Ms. Neferis states. They are invisible. The force part is just a little off, but it seems they are working hard for it.
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Angelice
Minmatar
Dark and Light inc.
D-L
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Posted - 2007.07.27 12:28:00 -
[47]
Edited by: Angelice on 27/07/2007 12:30:49
Originally by: Xavier Fate
1.) Given the freedom to choose, most people will not act in the cause of the greater over the cause of personal benefit. Some will, but not a majority. Since the majority is the power of the mob the statement that people will not act in the greater good is accurate overall. You need only look to our own pod-pilot organizations to figure out that a vast majorityof individuals and corporatiosn are self serving as a rule.
You also betray your lack of faith in the potential of makind. Your perception of time in your argument is incorrect since you apply the condition of the present and all instances of time that preceeded it as premises. Time is a measurement of change and change is the only constant in the universe therfore it is unreasonable to assume that man is incapable of sharing a common conscience since there is no logical way to rule this out and inference is not bound by any limit over time.
Originally by: Xavier Fate
2.) As far as actions and reactions, this is true in physics, but not quite true in life. While I have often hoped that one day I would undock and find Utopia outside, instead I continue to see war. War will continue until there is only one side left.
Mankind is subject to the same laws of physics that govern all other matter in the universe. This extends to phsychology which in its purest sense is the study of how electrical impulses in the brain are interpreted and how these affect the behaviour of a living entity. This translates to the larger scale as any student of psychohistory will learn.
As a result it is theoretically possible to steer the nature of society in the direction of the common good although this is not something which comes about overnight. So in that respect I agree it is less effective that the proposed bloodshed that seems to be advocated in this thread, and yet again I feel this betrays your lack of fore sight and faith in mankind.
Originally by: Xavier Fate
If you utterly destroy your enemy, there is no equal retaliation. If you break his will to fight by consistent and endless atrocities of violence, there is no equal retaliation.
If you utterly destroy an enemy you may well aquire another in the process; you may be mistaken in your assumption of utter destruction; you may fail in the first instance and be weakened as a result; you may inadvertantly remove a future possibility that ensures your own survival... I could continue to list exceptions but I trust you get the jist. How can you possibly confirm the utter destruction of your enemies? I submit that to desire war over peaceful co-existence goes against the laws of nature since the purpose of conflict is to survive. Where mutual benefit is possible it is logical to engage in peace and tolerance.
Originally by: Xavier Fate
In summary, while I see your statement for what it is - honest, hopeful, naive - I also see it for what it isn't - true.
I pity you a little. I was once as hopeful for the cause of peace and justice as you. In the end, I have discovered, these words are the battlecries of puppeteers who have no inclination of making such things real.
I trust I have clarified my position somewhat and that you have gained a further understanding of how what you describe as naive is in fact more logical than you expected. It is difficult to grasp the true nature of mankind given our limited senses and the often overwhelming power of our natural instincts, however logic and inference are powerful tools in unravelling the secrets of the universe. The largest challenge we face is not conflict, economics or religion; it is education.
It is my sincere wish that I have given you some hope for an alternative to the bleak future it appears you have submitted to. If not then it is you I pity for there will be no room in Utopia for those who are delluded by self importance.
Angelice
Dark & Light
"To see the right and not to do it is cowardice." - Confucius
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Horatio Cain
Caldari
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.07.27 14:37:00 -
[48]
Originally by: GreatObsidianDevil
Originally by: Revan Neferis
Protocols II - Our Weapon
"Who and what is in a position to overthrow an invisible force? And this is precisely what our force is. Bloodveil gently serves as a screen for us and our objects, but the plan of action of our force, even its very abiding-place, remains for the whole people an unknown mystery."
Pardon my intrusion,
I can vouch for half that Ms. Neferis states. They are invisible. The force part is just a little off, but it seems they are working hard for it.
Bloodveil is about as invisible as a freighter and about as dangerous.
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Xavier Fate
Gallente
Phoenix Wing
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.07.27 15:08:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Angelice
Edited by: Angelice on 27/07/2007 12:30:49
It is my sincere wish that I have given you some hope for an alternative to the bleak future it appears you have submitted to. If not then it is you I pity for there will be no room in Utopia for those who are delluded by self importance.
I do not see the future as bleak. Nor do I have any illusions of my own importance. Man is a flawed creation, and I am a part of it.
Quite the contrary, I am very hopeful. The destiny of man lies in the survival of the fittest. In the turbulance ahead, only the strong, the cunning and the ruthless will survive.
Utopia may never exist, but peace will come when mankind's endless war leaves nothing but those most capable of surviving it.
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Angelice
Minmatar
Dark and Light inc.
D-L
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Posted - 2007.07.27 16:00:00 -
[50]
If violence and war are mandatory measures in attaining a Utopia while at the same time beliefs and ideas can only ever be imperfectly traded amongst us due to their immaterial nature, the logical conclusion of your argument is that the final solution will be the extinction of all but the last remaining human being.
Stronger than all the rest, their power unchallenged, their wealth infinite... they will suffer a very lonely existence until the day they themselves perish and the race is wiped out for ever!
This is the goal you set for humanity...
Angelice
Dark & Light
"To see the right and not to do it is cowardice." - Confucius
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Xavier Fate
Gallente
Phoenix Wing
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.07.27 16:12:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Xavier Fate on 27/07/2007 16:13:26
Originally by: Angelice
If violence and war are mandatory measures in attaining a Utopia while at the same time beliefs and ideas can only ever be imperfectly traded amongst us due to their immaterial nature, the logical conclusion of your argument is that the final solution will be the extinction of all but the last remaining human being.
Stronger than all the rest, their power unchallenged, their wealth infinite... they will suffer a very lonely existence until the day they themselves perish and the race is wiped out for ever!
This is the goal you set for humanity...
You substitue words with very different meanings in places they do not belong.
I do not believe it would require utter extinction of humanity to unite it in Peace. Remember, the Amarr were unchallenged for a very long time.
Second, never did I say the word 'goal' or a synonym of it. My goals and my predictions do not always meet.
Third, if what I say about violence as a solution is not true - in your eyes - that's fine. Leave your weapons at home, go out, and good luck.
It's easier to talk to a corpse then a person blind and deaf to the truth.
My goal for humanity is that it is purged of its flaws and finds perfection in form and value.
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Tenebrion Darkness
Amarr
United Technologies II
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Posted - 2007.07.27 17:55:00 -
[52]
I wouldn't say that the Empire was ever unchallenged, merely that they overcame any obstacle through perseverance and faith. However, as of late, it seems the Empire is unable to overcome more and more of the challenges it faces.
Also, the flaws of humanity are many and varied. The "list" is widely different depending on whom you talk to. So, I would ask, who is to be the final word on what is or isn't a flaw? We as capsuleers have given up much of our humanity in our race for the stars, and I believe that we are no longer qualified to be a judge of what is left of humanity in the cluster.
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Casserina Leshrac
Amarr
Bloodveil
The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.07.27 18:06:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Angelice
If violence and war are mandatory measures in attaining a Utopia while at the same time beliefs and ideas can only ever be imperfectly traded amongst us due to their immaterial nature, the logical conclusion of your argument is that the final solution will be the extinction of all but the last remaining human being.
Stronger than all the rest, their power unchallenged, their wealth infinite... they will suffer a very lonely existence until the day they themselves perish and the race is wiped out for ever!
This is the goal you set for humanity...
In order to maintain the peace you must be able to fight for it. This carries over to a Utopian concept as well.
You can have one with out the other. That is impossible. And if it were it would breed stagnation of that society. No war and violence are absolutely necessary, it culls the weak and allows the strong to survive and flourish.
Casserina
Sani Sabik Illuminatus
From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos. |
Casserina Leshrac
Amarr
Bloodveil
The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.07.27 18:14:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness
I wouldn't say that the Empire was ever unchallenged, merely that they overcame any obstacle through perseverance and faith. However, as of late, it seems the Empire is unable to overcome more and more of the challenges it faces.
Also, the flaws of humanity are many and varied. The "list" is widely different depending on whom you talk to. So, I would ask, who is to be the final word on what is or isn't a flaw? We as capsuleers have given up much of our humanity in our race for the stars, and I believe that we are no longer qualified to be a judge of what is left of humanity in the cluster.
What aided the Empire in the past no longer works. The perseverance has been translated into into stagnation. The "faith" into stubbornness.
In order for the Empire to survive it must change or will collapse upon itself as different agencies vie for Imperial Power.
It is because we travel the stars that we are fit to judge humanity. Most of which will never leave their planet. Happy in their blissful ignorance of the universe in general. There is a certain kind of knowledge and understanding that we garnish with our travels. An experience that not every human can fully understand nor appreciate.
Casserina
Sani Sabik Illuminatus
From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos. |
Durris
Minmatar
The Bloodguard
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Posted - 2007.07.30 10:54:00 -
[55]
It would seem that Fang-Thane is uncapable of defining much, including the term "immortal", Fang-Thane is no more god or nobility than the Emperor of the Amarr empire is a commoner.
We are Bloodguard, Your Protest Avails Nothing. |
Revered Never'is
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Posted - 2007.08.01 16:25:00 -
[56]
I would like to elaborate on point 11. This Machiavellian approach certainly has its advantages. Acting "ruthless" instigates fear, and fear feeds those in power. This normally stems from an irrational fear the had as a child. Thus, exploiting fear in others, makes them forget their own shortcomings. Though, it has been proven that these fears might be ressurected at any point, causing the collapse of the power structure. Thus, even though morals should be ignored, they should not be forgotten lest the boogy monster returns.
"One must still have salt, to give flavour to tasy meat." |
Tenebrion Darkness
Amarr
United Technologies II
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Posted - 2007.08.03 08:29:00 -
[57]
To the above, you're one sad individual.
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Taetin Ishtal
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.08.04 08:34:00 -
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I find it odd that Mrs. Neferis is held in good standing by the Empire, yet hated by her fellow Blood Raiders. I may be naive in some ways, but given the stances you take, should not this be wrong?
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