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Ryysa
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.07.11 10:21:00 -
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Actually, most respectable pvpers leave tracks on various killboards.
Whether it is your own killboard, or it is your enemies' killboards, where they have lost ships to you.
I think a google search with a character name and "killboard" in the same query, shows quite well how active/good someone is. Or whether they are posting with their mains.
But yeah, you guys gotta be pretty bitter to flame one of the few people who actually posted on topic in this thread. Especially with noobalts, like Murehz and others here.
I'm not going to bother with the noobalts anymore tbh.
Every time one of you posts about credibility, I'll just post "yeah, and my main has 100 titans and 20 motherships".
Either way, any mature people will clearly see who the "*****s" here are in this thread, and who is trying to give useful info.
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Litus Arowar
Amarr
Obsidian Asylum
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.07.11 10:23:00 -
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I think the only problem most people have with you ryysa is that you're just so abrasive... yes I know you'll have a nice stinging response to this but that's not important... you just **** people off, no one cares wether you PVP well... at least I don't
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Ryysa
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.07.11 10:35:00 -
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I couldn't care less what people think about me.
You need to realize that.
And I generally like making fun of people who aren't too bright. Feel free to make fun of me though, I won't be offended :)
If you were less interested in smalltalk, and more interested in facts, you'd see that my posts are generally on the spot. Which is the entire point.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.11 11:23:00 -
[34]
 Originally by: Ryysa
Actually, most respectable pvpers leave tracks on various killboards.
Whether it is your own killboard, or it is your enemies' killboards, where they have lost ships to you.
I think a google search with a character name and "killboard" in the same query, shows quite well how active/good someone is. Or whether they are posting with their mains.
I'm not going to bother with the noobalts anymore tbh.
Every time one of you posts about credibility, I'll just post "yeah, and my main has 100 titans and 20 motherships".
Either way, any mature people will clearly see who the "*****s" here are in this thread, and who is trying to give useful info.
Oh dear... you could not be more wrong about killboards & activity.
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Gavin Darklighter
The Burning Orphans
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.07.11 11:49:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Jack Target
Edited by: Jack Target on 10/07/2007 22:09:56
Which is most fun to fly for PvP - Vagabonds or Huginns?
I'd Say the Huginn just because it does something no other ship (besides rapier) can.
Between the vaga and huginn, the vaga does more damage and is a little faster, but the huginn has bigger alpha-strike and is usualy better at escaping from bad situations. A vaga can be killed by anything that can catch it (like a faster vaga), but a Huginn when faced with a faster enemy will simply web it, this makes the huginn extremely survivable. The only time a vaga will survive when a huginn doesnt is when the fast-tacklers out number your webs
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Murehz
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Posted - 2007.07.11 12:03:00 -
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Have you seen the number of "unknown"'s on killboards?
Even if you don't care what people think about you, and tbh I odn't care what you think about me either, you could at least take a more down to earth tone with people. I could picture you talking to god and still automatically trying to sound like your better than him.
n topic I prefer huginn because it gives you more control in a fight which is something I like.
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Khadur
Minmatar
Spontaneous Defenestration
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Posted - 2007.07.11 12:06:00 -
[37]
lol... i fly both and they are good ships.
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BANDID
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.11 12:08:00 -
[38]
Huginn > Vaga period, nano huginn got 8k shield does allmost 4k speed, for solo huginn for in gangs huginn. I fly both and i rather easily kill a vaga in my huginn.
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Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.07.11 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: BANDID
Huginn > Vaga period, nano huginn got 8k shield does allmost 4k speed, for solo huginn for in gangs huginn. I fly both and i rather easily kill a vaga in my huginn.
And many people also failed to metion that the Huginn has flappy chin wings!  The vaga doesn't.
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Ryysa
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.07.11 13:05:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Drek Grapper
And many people also failed to metion that the Huginn has flappy chin wings! The vaga doesn't.
The first time I saw those, I got rather freaked out.
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Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.07.11 13:19:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Ryysa
Originally by: Drek Grapper
And many people also failed to metion that the Huginn has flappy chin wings! The vaga doesn't.
The first time I saw those, I got rather freaked out.
My shiney new Huginn now sits in Ammamake with your ac/mssiles/2 ext/2 web setup awaiting it's first kill!! I've waited a long time for this ship so can't wait to get out there and kick some ass!
Had to use 2 Aux Thrusters and 2xnano/1OD instead of the mass rigs and 3xOD2 cos i'm cheap!!! Still a bit slow at 3km/s though!  but i will fly her like a stabber with 2 webs!! I assume it's win!
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Murehz
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Posted - 2007.07.11 13:47:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Drek Grapper
Originally by: Ryysa
Originally by: Drek Grapper
And many people also failed to metion that the Huginn has flappy chin wings! The vaga doesn't.
The first time I saw those, I got rather freaked out.
My shiney new Huginn now sits in Ammamake with your ac/mssiles/2 ext/2 web setup awaiting it's first kill!! I've waited a long time for this ship so can't wait to get out there and kick some ass!
Had to use 2 Aux Thrusters and 2xnano/1OD instead of the mass rigs and 3xOD2 cos i'm cheap!!! Still a bit slow at 3km/s though! but i will fly her like a stabber with 2 webs!! I assume it's win!
Watch out for the resident damp rapier in amamake 
(and no thats not me)
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Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.07.11 13:52:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Murehz
Originally by: Drek Grapper
Originally by: Ryysa
Originally by: Drek Grapper
And many people also failed to metion that the Huginn has flappy chin wings! The vaga doesn't.
The first time I saw those, I got rather freaked out.
My shiney new Huginn now sits in Ammamake with your ac/mssiles/2 ext/2 web setup awaiting it's first kill!! I've waited a long time for this ship so can't wait to get out there and kick some ass!
Had to use 2 Aux Thrusters and 2xnano/1OD instead of the mass rigs and 3xOD2 cos i'm cheap!!! Still a bit slow at 3km/s though! but i will fly her like a stabber with 2 webs!! I assume it's win!
Watch out for the resident damp rapier in amamake
(and no thats not me)
Hehe ya i've seen him out and about it's one of the BEES chaps i think! I'm too sharp for him though so i normally warp away soon as i see him on o-view!!
There was a Rapier and a bloody Lachesis (however you spell it) hanging around last weekend as well. Killer combination!
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Heikki
Gallente
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.11 14:46:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Litus Arowar
"ace pilot" instead of demi god
Would think Ryysa has those 5 (solo) kills required for 'Ace' status.
For demi-god status one has to be capable of altering the laws of physic (like spawning BPOs out of nothing).
Anyway, although Ryysa gets easily sidetracked on useless angry insults, he at least 1) knows what he is doing AND 2) shares his ideas here. Too many folks just opt for XOR instead.
Internet is all about selective reading.
-Lasse
in Ryysa-fanclub
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Maeltstome
Minmatar
Caldari Navy Raiders
Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.07.11 15:14:00 -
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Huginn's sunday name is 'primary' btw - you wont keep one long if you battle compotent pilots.
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Ryysa
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.07.11 15:45:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Maeltstome
Huginn's sunday name is 'primary' btw - you wont keep one long if you battle compotent pilots.
Nano it up and run like hell :)
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eXtas
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.07.11 15:45:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Maeltstome
Huginn's sunday name is 'primary' btw - you wont keep one long if you battle compotent pilots.
that allso depends on the pilot.. if u fly a huginn and know u are going to be primery, fit it to survive and hae the enemys waist time trying to kill u  atleast thats my favorite... and for solo I would take huginn 95% over vaga... the 5% or so more dps wont be to mutch help anyway
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Jack Target
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.07.11 18:01:00 -
[48]
Thank you all very much for your replies!
It's particularly good to hear from Ryysa!
Of course, another great aspect of learning to fly Huggins is that you can branch out with covops for exploration.
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El Yatta
Mercenary Forces
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.07.11 18:20:00 -
[49]
Pretty much confirms who's Jack Target's main, so you might as well stop the trolling with him Ryysa.
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Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr
The Firestorm Elite
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Posted - 2007.07.11 18:38:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Lore Isander
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Kyozoku
Originally by: Kirex
Originally by: Jack Target
Huginns are prefered by the ace pilot Ryysa
I died a little inside.
We all did.
Yes we did..
oh yeah...all dead...
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.11 18:39:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Maeltstome
Huginn's sunday name is 'primary' btw - you wont keep one long if you battle compotent pilots.
My huginn got 249 kills (including pods and crap like that ofc) before finaly popping so I beg to differ.
And all it took is simply clicking on the wrong planet to warpoff for losing it yesterday 
If you plan on staying still and try to tank the damage then yes, you'll die a lot.
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Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.07.11 19:01:00 -
[52]
Originally by: ElCoCo
Originally by: Maeltstome
Huginn's sunday name is 'primary' btw - you wont keep one long if you battle compotent pilots.
My huginn got 249 kills (including pods and crap like that ofc) before finaly popping so I beg to differ.
And all it took is simply clicking on the wrong planet to warpoff for losing it yesterday
If you plan on staying still and try to tank the damage then yes, you'll die a lot.
Nice mate...(not the loss  ). AC's and t2 extenders, or Arties and damps?
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.11 19:13:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Drek Grapper
Nice mate...(not the loss ). AC's and t2 extenders, or Arties and damps?
I always fitted it for gang warfare so it was:
3hvy launchers, 2x650s, 1 salvager.
SSmwd (they were cheap once), sensorbooster (proved to be a must over just 1 damp), 2xfleeting webs, 1x28km scrambler (that was the most important item tbh) and 1x LSE
1xnano, 2xinertia stabs
Most of the stuff were named t1 due to grid issues.
I had 2xspeed rigs fitted (since they were changed from the +15% to mwd ones after a patch), which would be replaced for -15% to mass rigs if wanted and had isk to spare.
Logic behind the above setup is group warfare, hence the need for sensorbooster (gotta catch those vagas/ceptors fast)
I would fit a completely different setup if I were to fly it solo, very similar to rysas prefered setup.
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Tau IX
Amarr
C0VEN
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Posted - 2007.07.11 19:51:00 -
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Edited by: Tau IX on 11/07/2007 19:50:54
Originally by: Jack Target
Edited by: Jack Target on 10/07/2007 22:09:56
Huginns (...)advantage is in cloaking
You noticed this one actually does not cloak because it's combat recon
right ?
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Jack Target
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.07.11 20:58:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Tau IX
Edited by: Tau IX on 11/07/2007 19:50:54
Originally by: Jack Target
Edited by: Jack Target on 10/07/2007 22:09:56
Huginns (...)advantage is in cloaking
You noticed this one actually does not cloak because it's combat recon
right ?
I've edited the initial post accordingly!
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milinkoee
Bastage Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.11 21:05:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Ryysa
Edited by: Ryysa on 11/07/2007 10:35:11
I couldn't care less what people think about me.
You need to realize that.
And I generally like making fun of people who aren't too bright. Feel free to make fun of me though, I won't be offended :)
If you were less interested in smalltalk, and more interested in facts, you'd see that my posts are generally on the spot. Which is the entire point.
Anyway, can we stop talking about me and get back on topic?
If you want to have a lengthy conversation with me about moral values, eve-mail me your IM and I'll add you once I get home from work.
Not getting any I take it? 
Bastage, Inc.
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Jack Target
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.07.11 21:05:00 -
[57]
Originally by: El Yatta
Pretty much confirms who's Jack Target's main, so you might as well stop the trolling with him Ryysa.
I'm my own man and nobody's alt. Read my previous posts if you really need circumstantial evidence.
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Ryysa
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.07.11 21:15:00 -
[58]
Originally by: milinkoee
Not getting any I take it?
lol... chav much? :)
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Nordvargr
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.07.11 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Maeltstome
Huginn's sunday name is 'primary' btw - you wont keep one long if you battle compotent pilots.
You can fit dual LSE's on a huginn and have a tank comparable to a vagabond, not quite the same resits but still decent. I'd call a vagabond primary before a huginn anyday, and for survivability they are both masters at dictating range in their own ways.
Their role in small ganksquads is even the same, instantly kill any and all small tacklers in an enemy gang then hit up the primary. The huginn doesn't get the same DPS, but against tacklers I find a webbed inty with it's MWD still running dies to heavy missiles in an instant.
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Zhulik
Abyss Restless
Proper Response
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Posted - 2007.07.11 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: Zhulik on 11/07/2007 22:11:46
A good thing to remember while flying a hug is that when you get jammed/dampened all those things you had webbed become very unwebbed and can sometimes cause severe discomfort ranging from scratched paint to 'splosions.
Seems like a painfully obvious advise, but it is rather uncanny how often some people tend to forget it.
And more on topic, I'd say that the hug has a higher "warpthehellouttahereness" rating than the vaga does, due to its ability to effectively stop things that would normally prevent you from enacting glorious tactical retreat, while still having a half-decent speed of 2.5km/s or so with nonfaction fit and satisfying navigation skills.
edit: spelling
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