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Mayan Xul
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Posted - 2007.07.10 22:44:00 -
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I understand those of the GM's that love this game and keep playing it. But from what I've been hearing recently about low sec wars, those who are in control of EVE should actually be *****ing down. I just started playing this game, infact have 2 accounts going. However I have heard some fairly Disturbing News as of late.. With this kind of BS going on in the game I don't even want to be a part of the Eve-Universe anymore. Anyway, The point of this is simply: GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER Eve or your game wont last.
So in Conclusion: GSO DIAF GGC. 
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.10 22:50:00 -
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your stuff?
DE
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.07.10 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf your stuff?
DE
You Veto people have enough stuff, we carebears need it more than you.
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Kirex
Gallente Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.10 22:57:00 -
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Can I have your stuff?
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Mayan Xul
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Posted - 2007.07.10 22:58:00 -
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Account canceled my stuff is mine. Why do anything constructive if this is how the game is going to go.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.07.10 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Mayan Xul Account canceled my stuff is mine. Why do anything constructive if this is how the game is going to go.
Because I'm not a BoB alt?
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Para Trooper
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:04:00 -
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I sadly have to agree with Xul.
I came into this game a kid with high hopes that the universe was in combat with opposing forces and pirates. But it turns out that we the people who pay to play, seem to be getting the short end of the stick.
One thing that all GM's must understand is that the customer comes first. Not your objectives as a player. In short if you are playing the game and you are a GM, you should stop.
This is the worst type of thing that can happen in a game. You dont see GM's in other games ABUSING THEIR POWER ON THIS LEVEL! For example the excuse we were fed as to why a GM can talk to a regular player/friend and not act in the best interests of the game, we were told simply that GM's are not robots. Seriously though GM is a job and a privaledge, not a tool to abuse and allow others incredible advantages. In other words unless every player gets access exclusively to a GM in their MSN, this should be considered an illegal act against the gaming community.
Sure a GM might kill off someone causing trouble. But to be to the point where you can influence the outcome of any battle? It leaves the new people playing this game wondering why they would even try to get further.
Like playing black-jack @ a rigged table. In short if these types of actions continue I know a lawsuit will follow. Seeing as people are paying you for service rendered and not for you to basically take their money and then use the game to your own advantage. That is not what we agreed to in the terms and conditions of playing the game in short you need to get your act together and fire some one... the faith is slipping... quickly.
Please make an example of some one I hate to say that we the public require a scape-goat, but this type of situation demands more then a simple slap on the wrist and a note about investigations. We deserve the right to have the truth told to us, and not to find out about it off game.
In short again, Please EVE you have so much potential... why waste it on some loser GM?
Regards, Para
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Mayan Xul
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:07:00 -
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To those of you who want my stuff, GSO.
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Warrio
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: Mayan Xul Account canceled my stuff is mine. Why do anything constructive if this is how the game is going to go.
I've taken a vote and it's official. Everyone here cares. They do.
Sig removed due to being too freaking awsome. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Deckard Cain |

Para Trooper
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:12:00 -
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Edited by: Para Trooper on 10/07/2007 23:11:39 heres an idea if you dont have anything constructive to say.. try not talking... just fyi.
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Mayan Xul
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:13:00 -
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Edited by: Mayan Xul on 10/07/2007 23:12:51 Warrio.. I took a vote aswell, and everyone here seems to believe you need to shut that hole which you put pie in, they do.
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Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:27:00 -
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Welcome to last month, actually it's probably about two months old and has been responded to by CCP's Internal Affairs department.
If you feel so strongly about it then leave, those of us who frequent this subforum don't deal with 0.0 politics and quite frankly we don't care, what we do care about is your loot and some even find your corpse quite comforting, disturing I know but everyone plays the game they want.
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Wind Ictiva
Delta Kappa Gamma
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:28:00 -
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WoW, just, WoW!
If you believe this bullsht, why dont you just quit? why are you posting? trying to get us to quit? why would you want that?
if we like this game and dont buy into a smear campain, why should we quit?
did you take the time to consider why the goons posted this crap? I mean if they acctually believed any of it, why didnt they just quit?
thats right, they didnt quit, ergo, they dont believe their own sht! but you should quit... and not post
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Mayan Xul
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:34:00 -
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Edited by: Mayan Xul on 10/07/2007 23:41:50 Um I thought i was clear on this I did quit. And as for the smear campaign, if I was going to do that, i'd make a webpage about how EvE sux, but it doesn't, in fact its amazing.. I love this game, I have spent way too much time outta the last couple weeks playing it. Now I do believe this 'cause I have seen stuff like this go down in the past in other games. now how about before making these pathetic assumptions how about you READ the WHOLE THING, you bloody tool, and not the useful kind like a hammer or a wrench you're like that extra set of alen keys that comes from ikea... USELESS.
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1tommo1
Caldari kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Mayan Xul To those of you who want my stuff, GSO.
Does that mean i cant have your stuff?
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Mayan Xul
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:48:00 -
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The point of this post in general is to call attention to the scandal, and to get a response from an actual EVE employee... I could honestly care less about what you think Wind Ictiva.
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Nalar Marnith
Minmatar Tetranex Consolidated
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:52:00 -
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Edited by: Nalar Marnith on 10/07/2007 23:52:34 Old news, yawn.
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: DarkElf your stuff?
DE
You Veto people have enough stuff, we carebears need it more than you.
One can NEVER have too much stuff 
And OP: Old and boring and unsubstantiated news. Scroll down for CHOAD...ooops...meant COAD or whatever it is 
"Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
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merc999
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:53:00 -
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Edited by: merc999 on 10/07/2007 23:53:48
Originally by: Mayan Xul The point of this post in general is to call attention to the scandal, and to get a response from an actual EVE employee... I could honestly care less about what you think Wind Ictiva.
there are many threads in the information portal forum about this, and while many of us are not happy with the CCP responses to, what we see as valid concerns, that have not been adequatly addressed that forum is the place to bring up these matters.
Many of us also , realising that CCP will not openly confront the concerns use outside gaming websites to ensure pressure is kept up on CCP to talk to its customers and accept that there is a large amount of distrust
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Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Mayan Xul The point of this post in general is to call attention to the scandal, and to get a response from an actual EVE employee... I could honestly care less about what you think Wind Ictiva.
Ooh, look a response
Don't let the Eve Gate hit you on the way out
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Para Trooper
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:58:00 -
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Edited by: Para Trooper on 11/07/2007 00:01:39 ok first off this is not a smear campaign, it is the voice of the people playing it. I dont care to leave EVE or be involved in any sideways antics. But to be frank if you READ THE WHOLE THING as listed as the "disturbing news" you will find that the people involved in this conflict of interest are simply players that loved the game, then got trampled on by an EVE GM's alterior motives..
In short I do not hate the CCP or hold any ill-will towards it, but I do feel that if you claim to be the admins of this entire on-line community you should care more about what the people in power are doing. And listen to what a small time reporter who offered his assistance witnessed. The idea that he would help report on the games great triumphs and then to be suddenly the words of a smear campaign... you sadly and merely, are an upset gamer.
This does nothing productive.
Acting like children is what got us into this mess, lets act like adults and responsibly get the people who are to be held accountable to come forth. We do not want the entire community to suffer, but I refuse to pay into a service that is digitally kicking me in the jewels, monthly. If this type of event occured there should be a "letting-go" of someone or atleast the removal of someones GM status, seeing as this is IN NO WAY FAIR TO NEW PLAYERS AT ALL. or to any existing players.
People have put more then 5 years into this game, which in equivalence in real money is 740 dollars CAD. So unlike people who have their mommies and daddies paying, we the working public actually care about our expenditures.
So to be upset that we find out that the game could very well be corrupt throughout, leaves us wondering, why are we paying for this?
I would not pay anyone 20 dollars a month to mess with me when Im trying to succeed at a goal. It seems to be pointless.
I hope that you dont take this as a smear, seeing as it is only stated FACTS. about the game and not claims, or presumptions without any investigation. Unlike the three second read-overs which are replying... in anger I hope that some of you actually read through all of it and come up with an actual OPINION, based on your OWN JUDGEMENT.
Please people, we play this game to get away from people that think like sheep. DONT BE A SHEEP! Be a wolf!
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Mayan Xul
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Posted - 2007.07.11 00:03:00 -
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Edited by: Mayan Xul on 11/07/2007 00:02:49 Whatever if you believe everything you read go live in the USA and be a part of the herd. What I wanted to say has been said, judging from the caliber of responses I wouldnt want to interact with most of you on a regular basis anyway.
Sincerely, DIAF
Xul.
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Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.11 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Mayan Xul Edited by: Mayan Xul on 11/07/2007 00:02:55 Whatever if you believe everything you read go live in the USA and be a part of the herd. What I wanted to say has been said, judging from the caliber of responses I wouldnt want to interact with most of you on a regular basis anyway.
Sincerely, DIAF
Xul.
my emphasis on the bolded statement: take some of your own advice there. My old corp is in the swarm and I witnessed these allegations first hand sunshine. Take everything with a grain of salt, if you take this stuff too seriously you'll never cope with reality.
Have fun now
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Mitsuko Anari
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Posted - 2007.07.11 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: Para Trooper Seriously though GM is a job and a privaledge
TBH with so many drama queens and whiners like your good self, I think it is more of a punishment for past life crimes than a privaledge 
Contract me your stuff and gtfo if you are so bothered.
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Vincenzo Delloro
Amarr Lux et Veritas
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Posted - 2007.07.11 00:31:00 -
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It's funny how all this stuff is talked about in hushed tones as though, if true, CCP somehow pulled off the Scam of the Century (TM). But when you realise what the actual allegations are, they're beyond trivial.
I'm satisfied with how CCP responded to them, and the only reason they got the press they did is because CCP was unwilling to reveal the details of the allegations to the general public, which is entirely in keeping with how moderation in most games works, but had the unfortunate side effect of making it seem like there was some big secret to the allegations.
Seriously, the people complaining about this have blatantly never played a MUD where the devs are involved in the game, or worked for a company where complaints actually have to be judged on their merits rather than on the tone of voice of the customers making complaints. (In most businesses, 10% of your customers cause 90% of your headaches, and I'm sure EVE is no exception.)
It's all about perspective, and some people seem to have lost it.
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Mayan Xul
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Posted - 2007.07.11 00:34:00 -
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Edited by: Mayan Xul on 11/07/2007 00:34:32
Originally by: Kane Rizzel
my emphasis on the bolded statement: take some of your own advice there. My old corp is in the swarm and I witnessed these allegations first hand sunshine. Take everything with a grain of salt, if you take this stuff too seriously you'll never cope with reality.
Have fun now
My reply is only on the bolded text.... THIS ISNT REALITY.. YOU TOOL
Now lets see if you can manage to reply without quoting, that way you can prove that you can think in REALITY because EVE IS NOT REALITY
The only reason im ****ed off about whats gone on, is that I am paying REAL money from REALITY to play this FAKE SPACE SIM GAME and if this is whats going on I don't want to waste my funds...
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Kesh McCall
Caldari Random Science Network
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Posted - 2007.07.11 00:35:00 -
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welcome to two months ago...
and to the deep jungle of false acusations...
dont let the door hit you on your way out Originally by: CCP Wrangler Am I reading this correctly? You claim you have a bug that undresses female avatars
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Mayan Xul
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Posted - 2007.07.11 00:37:00 -
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Edited by: Mayan Xul on 11/07/2007 00:37:07
Originally by: Kesh McCall welcome to two months ago...
and to the deep jungle of false acusations...
dont let the door hit you on your way out
Welcome to a summary of a few posts throughout this thread can we get 3 cheers for this moron?
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Para Trooper
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Posted - 2007.07.11 00:42:00 -
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Hip hip HOooray!
Hip hip Hoooray!
Hip HOP HOORAY!
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Devian 666
Axe Gang
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Posted - 2007.07.11 00:49:00 -
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Everyone is bored with the CAOD Goon Smear Campaign. Read it properly. The ISD person who revealed this information was rude to customers of the game and he decided to act like a ******. That and it appears that he revealed internal information under NDA.
OMG the RP storylines are rigged! OMG an NPC faction will lose a battle as a part of the story, ummm hang on it's an NPC faction not a player alliance, and RP events need a storyline or nothing will happen. That and it's also a story that never went ahead as it went on the scraphead.
So in summary; you cannot win an MMORPG as they are designed to continue forever, if you are a member of ISD and act like an idiot you will get kicked out (no surprises there), BoB did MSN someone at CCP but I don't care, and why don't you read the threads relating to this garbage and stop bothering the pirates. I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star. Most people have missed the point that this is Mobsters Online and that carebears are at the bottom of the foodchain. |

Wind Ictiva
Delta Kappa Gamma
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Posted - 2007.07.11 00:56:00 -
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Edited by: Wind Ictiva on 11/07/2007 00:58:52
funny... neiter Para Mayan Xul nor Para Trooper have their corp ticker ON. And they seem to share their opinion about this game.
lets check them out.
oh, I see.
mayan Xul is a member of Black Justice
Para Trooper is a member of Black Justice
EDIT: mayan xul and para trooper are about a month old
you fng rtrds, go back to WOW
if Wow wasnt so successful I would think you two were employees
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Xul Fuel
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Posted - 2007.07.11 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Wind Ictiva Edited by: Wind Ictiva on 11/07/2007 00:58:52
funny... neiter Para Mayan Xul nor Para Trooper have their corp ticker ON. And they seem to share their opinion about this game.
lets check them out.
oh, I see.
mayan Xul is a member of Black Justice
Para Trooper is a member of Black Justice
EDIT: mayan xul and para trooper are about a month old
you fng rtrds, go back to WOW
if Wow wasnt so successful I would think you two were employees
lol Nice try on that one ******.. I only have 2 accounts and both chars have Xul in my name, but keep up the attempts alen keys..
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Devian 666
Axe Gang
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Posted - 2007.07.11 01:05:00 -
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I have uncovered breaking news that blows the lid on this whole thing.
CCP caught red handed.
I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star. Most people have missed the point that this is Mobsters Online and that carebears are at the bottom of the foodchain. |

Vincenzo Delloro
Amarr Lux et Veritas
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Posted - 2007.07.11 01:08:00 -
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Originally by: Devian 666 I have uncovered breaking news that blows the lid on this whole thing.
CCP caught red handed.
ZOMG DOES TEH PREZNIT NOE????
I lol'ed.
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Xul Fuel
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Posted - 2007.07.11 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: Devian 666 I have uncovered breaking news that blows the lid on this whole thing.
CCP caught red handed.
Zomg its finally over!
It doesnt matter tho, Eve-online is dead to me, im glad there are some people out there dumb enough to keep playing it and paying for the monthly abuse. The idea for the game is a good one and deserves to live on. Good luck to all of you, some don't seem quite as dumb as others, so I'm going to GTFO here and most of you can DIAF and GSO while GGC.
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Para Trooper
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Posted - 2007.07.11 01:14:00 -
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Hear that... its the sound of ppl with too much time on their hands!
ok first off this is a thread addressed to the conspiracy, I dont care what you think. If I did, I'd be you, and nobody wants that, trust me.
as for the shabby links... well good luck. I wish you all the best.... IN REALITY... as for this game... uh... well... we've been through this.
Yes we are new members in a corp. But to be upset that we know eachother, is hypocritical.
If you dont believe me you can see both of us IRL someday. We will buy you a coffee and we can talk like adults. Although Im sure that Wind has much better things to do... like make presumptions.
By the way, Im not Xul, Im barely even a Para-Trooper. So insult my name all you want, its not my real one. THIS AINT REALITY KIDDIES! WAKE UP!
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Bryg Philomena
Green Lantern Corps
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Posted - 2007.07.11 01:33:00 -
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ffs, this happened a while ago. I know you just read it, but read everything it spawned. It has been all disproven and no foul play involved, this was flame feeding off the whole 'i dont trust ccp' mentality that went around for a while. If you cant be asked to read everything else as well, I dont think you would be very happy in this game. Buh Bye
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Am I reading this correctly? You claim you have a bug that undresses female avatars???
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Wind Ictiva
Delta Kappa Gamma
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Posted - 2007.07.11 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: Xul Fuel Edited by: Xul Fuel on 11/07/2007 01:04:59
Originally by: Wind Ictiva Edited by: Wind Ictiva on 11/07/2007 00:58:52
funny... neiter Para Mayan Xul nor Para Trooper have their corp ticker ON. And they seem to share their opinion about this game.
lets check them out.
oh, I see.
mayan Xul is a member of Black Justice
Para Trooper is a member of Black Justice
EDIT: mayan xul and para trooper are about a month old
you fng rtrds, go back to WOW
if Wow wasnt so successful I would think you two were employees
lol Nice try on that one tool.. I only have 2 accounts and both chars have Xul in my name, but keep up the attempts alen keys..
Originally by: Para Trooper Hear that... its the sound of ppl with too much time on their hands!
ok first off this is a thread addressed to the conspiracy, I dont care what you think. If I did, I'd be you, and nobody wants that, trust me.
as for the shabby links... well good luck. I wish you all the best.... IN REALITY... as for this game... uh... well... we've been through this.
Yes we are new members in a corp. But to be upset that we know eachother, is hypocritical.
If you dont believe me you can see both of us IRL someday. We will buy you a coffee and we can talk like adults. Although Im sure that Wind has much better things to do... like make presumptions.
By the way, Im not Xul, Im barely even a Para-Trooper. So insult my name all you want, its not my real one. THIS AINT REALITY KIDDIES! WAKE UP!
Ok 1st: when did i imply you guys were the same char? you guys reading that from my post however implies that you are
2nd: how am i upset you know each other? and more importantly, me thinks, how is that hypocritical maybe you should consult a dicionary before you post
3rd: what are my presumptions? that you know each other or that you are the same person? I beg your pardon, but arent these your own presumtions?
4th: so what your both your chars have xul in their names. how does that have anything to do with anything?
5th: who has more time on their hands: a) me who plays this game or b)"two" guys who left this game already but are posting in the forums still?
6th: since you "two" left already. why are you two nubs still posting!! nubbingville is that way---->
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jimmyjam
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.07.11 01:44:00 -
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Did i hear that someone is giving away isk i will hold it for you and your stuff as well.(referring to op)
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Regarun
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Posted - 2007.07.11 02:57:00 -
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Originally by: Para Trooper Hear that... its the sound of ppl with too much time on their hands!
ok first off this is a thread addressed to the conspiracy, I dont care what you think. If I did, I'd be you, and nobody wants that, trust me.
as for the shabby links... well good luck. I wish you all the best.... IN REALITY... as for this game... uh... well... we've been through this.
Yes we are new members in a corp. But to be upset that we know eachother, is hypocritical.
If you dont believe me you can see both of us IRL someday. We will buy you a coffee and we can talk like adults. Although Im sure that Wind has much better things to do... like make presumptions.
By the way, Im not Xul, Im barely even a Para-Trooper. So insult my name all you want, its not my real one. THIS AINT REALITY KIDDIES! WAKE UP!
If you didn't care what people thought, you wouldn't post on the forum. At all. Second, why are we discussing something that happened months ago in C&P? Aren't we supposed to be enlarging tiller's epeen or something?
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Devian 666
Axe Gang
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Posted - 2007.07.11 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Xul Fuel
Originally by: Devian 666 I have uncovered breaking news that blows the lid on this whole thing.
CCP caught red handed.
Zomg its finally over!
It doesnt matter tho, Eve-online is dead to me, im glad there are some people out there dumb enough to keep playing it and paying for the monthly abuse. The idea for the game is a good one and deserves to live on. Good luck to all of you, some don't seem quite as dumb as others, so I'm going to GTFO here and most of you can DIAF and GSO while GGC.
I heard a statistic once that 90% of forum replies are made without viewing the link. Statistics are always true.
I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star. Most people have missed the point that this is Mobsters Online and that carebears are at the bottom of the foodchain. |

Faekurias
Federation Fleet Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.07.11 09:37:00 -
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arrrf...I still want your stuff :(
Give the Nighthawk back it's shieldrecharge! |

Scilent Enigma
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.07.11 12:19:00 -
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The allegations doesn't make sense. Why would CCP do something that would risk loosing it's main income? And why would they allow someone in their staff to do that?
?
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Lore Isander
Caldari Paisti
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Posted - 2007.07.11 12:31:00 -
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GIEF ITAMZ PLZ!!11!
--- How do I shot web? |

Silverkin
888th Anti Macro Association
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Posted - 2007.07.11 14:04:00 -
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ISD has a COUNTERSTRIKE SERVER?!?!?
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Destiny Calling
Amarr Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.11 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: DarkElf your stuff?
DE
You Veto people have enough stuff, we carebears need it more than you.
That Veto person has enough stuff; this Veto person is quite deserving of all free stuff 
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Sabriam
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Posted - 2007.07.11 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Silverkin ISD has a COUNTERSTRIKE SERVER?!?!?
Hehehe, thats what stuck out to me as well, after sifting through all this crap 
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William Young
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.07.11 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Mayan Xul Edited by: Mayan Xul on 11/07/2007 00:06:34 Edited by: Mayan Xul on 11/07/2007 00:02:55 Whatever if you believe everything you read go live in the USA and be a part of the herd. With regards to that response, i never trust anything that has blacked out blocks. What I wanted to say has been said, judging from the caliber of responses I wouldnt want to interact with most of you on a regular basis anyway.
Sincerely, DIAF
Xul.
Uuuuh
Wait, I have a script on how this debate will turn out if I start it. "So you should trust the players making the accusations more than CCP?" "Yeah, because CCP is untrustworthy." "How do you know that CCP is untrustworthy?" "Because the players said so." "How do you know the players are trustworthy?" "Because they're upset that CCP is so untrustworthy." "And how do they know that CCP is untrustworthy?" "Because the players said so."
And so on and so forth.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.07.11 18:36:00 -
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What it all boils down to is that EVE is CCP's game, and quite frankly, they can do anything they want. The only choice you have in this matter is whether or not you want to pay to play THEIR game. If you don't, GTFO and stop trying to cause panic in the masses and play some other game who does a better job of hiding their cheating.
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Kathy Rindhoops
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Posted - 2007.07.11 19:15:00 -
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Soooo.....
The upshot... Any stuff going begging?
Ca I have some?

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Urishkan Kharii
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Posted - 2007.07.11 19:15:00 -
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Bloody alts.....
Sorry..
But any stuff?
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