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Honestry Dax
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Posted - 2007.07.11 20:18:00 -
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I've encounter quite a few people in Eve who seem to be so proud of their kill board stats especially how much Isk they have destroyed.
I wouldn't mind that normally, i was on a kill board when i played first person shooters. But it doesn't make sense on eve. There is no way to tell how much damage is dealt by you or how big of a role in a gang. I've seen first hand a bunch of corp members keeping ship lock down so they could invite as many people as people into the gang so they can get in on the kill mail. This is ridiculous, how can one be proud and boast about how much they have kill when half the time you are in a gang of 20 killing a single tech 1 BS and you barely get one shot off. Or you just sneak in in the last second with out doing any of the hard work.
begin the flames?
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Sachin
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Posted - 2007.07.11 20:20:00 -
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can i have your stuff?
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milinkoee
Bastage Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.11 20:21:00 -
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Well I can't speak for others, but I use the KB as compensation for a small *****.
Bastage, Inc.
Worst Pirates Ever!!! |
DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.11 20:21:00 -
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Ok firstly killboards are a great way for senior members of a corp to see how the ranks are doing and identify any areas for improvement.
Also there are many ppl in eve that i meet who claim they 'took on 10 ppl alone' or 'killed a titan solo' etc etc and it's obviously mostly bull so without kb data to back it up you generally get told to sod off.
Most things ppl do they keep records of. KB's area record of eve accomplishments.
DE
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SFShootme
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2007.07.11 20:23:00 -
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 Originally by: DarkElf
Ok firstly killboards are a great way for senior members of a corp to see how the ranks are doing and identify any areas for improvement.
Also there are many ppl in eve that i meet who claim they 'took on 10 ppl alone' or 'killed a titan solo' etc etc and it's obviously mostly bull so without kb data to back it up you generally get told to sod off.
Most things ppl do they keep records of. KB's area record of eve accomplishments.
DE
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BobGhengisKhan
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.11 20:24:00 -
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Before the time of POS's and the ability for Alliances to control 0.0 space the only way to claim space was to show your presence there. And a long time ago there were no in-game killmails so no one ever really knew whether they won or lost a battle. Eventually people created websites to show how many kills they believed they had.
Pretty much they were used to see who had control over a region. A time when K:D ratio actually showed who was the boss.
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Amanda Shadowsword
Caldari
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.07.11 20:24:00 -
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I like to just pose with my killboard because i'm teh l33t 111111!!!!!!!!!eleventwelvethirteenfourteenonehundredandfive.
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Saint Lazarus
C R Y O
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.11 20:28:00 -
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I wish I knew =/
Killboard whorin seems to have grown to epic proportions now, and I find the few things people say to defend the use of killboards ie keepin track of their stats as complete BS 99% of the time (espically seein as KB's can be so inaccurate...)
Its e-peen stroking nothing more but it seems EVERYONE and their dog is doing it now so most people go along with it =/
I wont say I NEVER used KB's cause I think I might have posted one or two 
But for the most part I never used them and I never will, no dam need to and I refuse to just because everyone else does 
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Honestry Dax
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Posted - 2007.07.11 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf
Ok firstly killboards are a great way for senior members of a corp to see how the ranks are doing and identify any areas for improvement.
Also there are many ppl in eve that i meet who claim they 'took on 10 ppl alone' or 'killed a titan solo' etc etc and it's obviously mostly bull so without kb data to back it up you generally get told to sod off.
Most things ppl do they keep records of. KB's area record of eve accomplishments.
DE
Thats fine if a corp wants to use it in that fashion, or even if the corp wants to boast their skill. I have no problem with, cause it makes sense.
But there is a huge jump in logic when Individuals are really proud of their KB stats when they didn't really do anything. Claiming you killed hundreds of ships when in reality you just tagged along in a hundred gangs, seems strange.
not to mention you can forge your killmail >.> <.<
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Ozzie Asrail
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.11 22:34:00 -
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I like my stats on killboards. Ships flown\killed, weapons used, fittigns etc. I also like seeing what my corp has been up to while i been at work or whatever.
Bottom line is who cares, it doesn't affect you what other people think about killboards so why concern yourself?
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Faekurias
Federation Fleet
Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.07.11 22:38:00 -
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It's pretty, its interesting, you can see the successrate of you,your corp ,your alliance. And how you fare against those you are at war with, and people who die ALOT can get help from senior members, as DE said.
It's very usefull unless you're in a nubcorp :)
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Gladiator Jonny
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Posted - 2007.07.11 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: milinkoee
Well I can't speak for others, but I use the KB as compensation for a small *****.
cant say its what i use it for but  this made me lol
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darkfuntime
Minmatar
Omega Enterprises
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.07.11 22:47:00 -
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I used to feel the same way dax but now that i use a kb its a good thing.The kb tracks your kills/loses.So when i dinggleberry says to you in local (i have killed you before you can say nope,stay off the *****).It it also cool to be on top from time to time.For real it has many good tools,try it out.
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Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.11 22:56:00 -
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Here's my grief.
I've never posted on a killboard. From time to time, when people want to challenge me, I'll get a mail asking for my killboard, or where is my killboard, or what killboard do I use...its incessant.
I think people have gotten too attached to the idea that killing a ship *means* something.
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dragonssbane
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.07.11 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Honestry Dax
Originally by: DarkElf
Ok firstly killboards are a great way for senior members of a corp to see how the ranks are doing and identify any areas for improvement.
Also there are many ppl in eve that i meet who claim they 'took on 10 ppl alone' or 'killed a titan solo' etc etc and it's obviously mostly bull so without kb data to back it up you generally get told to sod off.
Most things ppl do they keep records of. KB's area record of eve accomplishments.
DE
Thats fine if a corp wants to use it in that fashion, or even if the corp wants to boast their skill. I have no problem with, cause it makes sense.
But there is a huge jump in logic when Individuals are really proud of their KB stats when they didn't really do anything. Claiming you killed hundreds of ships when in reality you just tagged along in a hundred gangs, seems strange.
not to mention you can forge your killmail >.> <.<
Just understand the majority of the population of eve that uses kill boards are pretty straight forward about it. You unfortunately only here about the knottheads that abuse the system.
Plus you can look at someones killboard and can tell very quickily if they are full of *!#$ or not.
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jimmyjam
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.07.11 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Honestry Dax
I've encounter quite a few people in Eve who seem to be so proud of their kill board stats especially how much Isk they have destroyed.
I wouldn't mind that normally, i was on a kill board when i played first person shooters. But it doesn't make sense on eve. There is no way to tell how much damage is dealt by you or how big of a role in a gang. I've seen first hand a bunch of corp members keeping ship lock down so they could invite as many people as people into the gang so they can get in on the kill mail. This is ridiculous, how can one be proud and boast about how much they have kill when half the time you are in a gang of 20 killing a single tech 1 BS and you barely get one shot off. Or you just sneak in in the last second with out doing any of the hard work.
begin the flames?
You can begin the hauling process to iges to give me your stuff if you like.
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.07.11 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: Honestry Dax
But there is a huge jump in logic when Individuals are really proud of their KB stats when they didn't really do anything. Claiming you killed hundreds of ships when in reality you just tagged along in a hundred gangs, seems strange.
There's a huge jump in logic that this is true for even a slim majority of eve.
Steel Rat > if they only knew we make this **** up as we go |
hellsknights
Phoenix Navy
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.07.11 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf
Ok firstly killboards are a great way for senior members of a corp to see how the ranks are doing and identify any areas for improvement.
Also there are many ppl in eve that i meet who claim they 'took on 10 ppl alone' or 'killed a titan solo' etc etc and it's obviously mostly bull so without kb data to back it up you generally get told to sod off.
Most things ppl do they keep records of. KB's area record of eve accomplishments.
DE
I completely agree with the above statement. My alliance uses our KB for the exact reason above.
Its the easiest way of keeping track of wins and loses.
Not everyone see's the KB a E-PEEN stuff, but some people use it in such a matter.
Anyhow, people with a E-PEEN problem don't need a KB the forums will do....
right Tiller 
Hells
Let me liberate you of your T2 mods. T2 mods are dropping in price, because of invention?? No its because of pirates. |
Dead Manne
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Posted - 2007.07.12 00:06:00 -
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Its just statistics mostly. It comes to habit and then it really buggers, if rats or other ally gets the mail.
Ofcourse there is situations, where you really can say you are "proud" If not invidually, but as a corp.
And if you look those killboards closer you can see who others there were in that kill etc.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Spartan Industries
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.07.12 00:07:00 -
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Killboards have many uses.
The obvious is to provide a record of your kills, and participation in battles.
Second it is a useful tool for CEO's to check the activity of their pilots
And third, it is used by many merc corps to provide a summary of damage to their employers. After all they are paying for the damage and want to see it in real terms of ship losses.
Oh yes and fourth...it is good for the e-peen
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Acacia Everto
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.07.12 00:07:00 -
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I just like to see what others have destroyed while I'm offline
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Spartan Industries
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.07.12 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: Curzon Dax
Here's my grief.
I've never posted on a killboard. From time to time, when people want to challenge me, I'll get a mail asking for my killboard, or where is my killboard, or what killboard do I use...its incessant.
I think people have gotten too attached to the idea that killing a ship *means* something.
They are asking for your killboard so that they can see what weapons/ships you use.
If you have a loss mail, your mods will be on there and they can fit to kill you. This of course is the downside of KB.
It is very easy to get intel on a target gang from their recent posting. I have used hostile kill mail posting to my advantage many times 
I, erm, like kill things and stuff |
murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.07.12 04:13:00 -
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Killboards have a really great use for merc corps/alliances: easy to show a client how effective you are while you're on the job.
BUYING Poteque Pharmaceuticals 'Prospector'
PPH-2, PAYING WELL, CONVO/MAIL IN-GAME |
Kirex
Gallente
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.12 04:20:00 -
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Edited by: Kirex on 12/07/2007 04:19:28
Keep a record of hostile ship fittings, how well of a pvper someone is (someone who engages BS in cruisers for example, is better than someone who sits at a gate with 10 people poping shuttles), see how well your corps doing, etc
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.12 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf
Ok firstly killboards are a great way for senior members of a corp to see how the ranks are doing and identify any areas for improvement.
Also there are many ppl in eve that i meet who claim they 'took on 10 ppl alone' or 'killed a titan solo' etc etc and it's obviously mostly bull so without kb data to back it up you generally get told to sod off.
Most things ppl do they keep records of. KB's area record of eve accomplishments.
DE
also gonna quote this coz i agree with it 100%
also our corp killboard is used as a kinda forum to make fun of my excessive losses.
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Skraeling Shortbus
Caldari
Gallente Federal Bank
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Posted - 2007.07.12 06:48:00 -
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for uhh... fun/braggingrights/statistics/cause its cool.
didn't subs keep track of tonnage sunk? GD stat padding German uboats.
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Ridley Tree
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2007.07.12 07:17:00 -
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Edited by: Ridley Tree on 12/07/2007 07:17:44
Originally by: SFShootme
Originally by: DarkElf
Ok firstly killboards are a great way for senior members of a corp to see how the ranks are doing and identify any areas for improvement.
Also there are many ppl in eve that i meet who claim they 'took on 10 ppl alone' or 'killed a titan solo' etc etc and it's obviously mostly bull so without kb data to back it up you generally get told to sod off.
Most things ppl do they keep records of. KB's area record of eve accomplishments.
DE
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Veto Posts losses.
Carebear Stare.... hahaha aha ahahahahaha. You guys are the definition of a useless killboard.
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Plave Okice
Naughty 40
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.12 08:05:00 -
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I've spent a large part of my eve time flying solo or in very small gangs, in which case I never bothered with killboards as there was no real benefit in doing so.
In an alliance fighting campaigns however it's a very useful tool for alliance leaders to see daily progress, monitor groups of enemies, their usual fittings and more.
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Tony Allizzar
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2007.07.12 10:14:00 -
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Kill boards are also a good tool for merc corps. it allows prospective clients to see there kills, and lets existing clients track there bang for buck
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.12 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: Tony Allizzar
Kill boards are also a good tool for merc corps. it allows prospective clients to see there kills, and lets existing clients track there bang for buck
Yeah another very good reason.
DE
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