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Darius Shakor Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.07.15 09:27:00 - [1] Haven't got round to posting this yet but when Rev 2 was released I realised that the LP store removed a tool that us roleplayers relied on. Old agent offers used to have the ability to liberate slaves in the Republic (and I think Gallente space too) and the Amarr factions used to have options to enslave former slaves via agent offers. Way back when in the old days of eve, we requested such a feature for a long time and wept with joy when we finally got it. Now it is gone again. CCP, are there any plans to add such a feature back again? If not in the LP store then at least some other interaction to allow us to free slaves and allow the Amarr to enslave again. Many Minmatar RP groups have spent a lot of time and energy in installing a network of liberation using agents known to give out these offers, as well as working out routes around the customs officers to get slaves to these agents. (Another issue for another day when I compose my thoughts) Please, CCP, we need such a feature back on both sides. ------ Shakor Clan Information Portal
Shaikar Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.15 09:41:00 - [2] Edited by: Shaikar on 15/07/2007 09:40:49 I agree, I have a smelly mix of freed slaves and freedom fighters that need taken care of. There were also the other offers too which are missed like Kameiras, or the none-slavery illegal ones (whether they are drugs or stuff like plutonium etc) which could all be used for fun stuff. Not sure if anyone misses the thousand-tonnes-of-garbage offer though.
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.07.15 09:43:00 - [3] Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 15/07/2007 09:42:59 Yes, please do bring this back. Or give us something else to do the same kind of thing with. We really did use it. :) -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient now. "When pirates hate your guts, you know you are doing something right."
Scagga Laebetrovo Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.07.15 09:47:00 - [4] This is essential! What do you expect heathens to do with slaves anyway? Delictum 23216 Official forums
Kyozoku Mutiny.	Posted - 2007.07.15 09:49:00 - [5] I kind of miss it too. My pirate agent used to ask me to score her drugs when ever she got the shakes.
Fswd	Posted - 2007.07.15 09:54:00 - [6] Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo This is essential! What do you expect heathens to do with slaves anyway? Trash them? Like what you do with any set of pixels that doesnt generate isk --- snip Trolling and discussion of moderation removed - Serathu ([email protected])
djenghis jan Amarr Debiloff's Vanguard	Posted - 2007.07.15 09:59:00 - [7] I have lots of slaves and elite slaves in my hangers. You can buy them for 6-10 mil pet m^3. If you buy all of them i'll throw in a m^3 of vitoc to keep em quiet
Callthetruth Caldari Drunken Ratbags Inc New Eve Order	Posted - 2007.07.15 10:05:00 - [8] yes they need to be seeded back in
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.15 10:07:00 - [9] Amarrian agents also used to dish out Kameiras. It's things like this that give flavour to the different regions. Let's have the ability to get interesting stuff from LP store! Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Spoon Thumb Khanid Aerospace Group Khanid Provincial Authority	Posted - 2007.07.15 10:08:00 - [10] Can you please look at the Khanid LP Store whilst you're at it. We lost offers such as Elite Slaves offers as well as just about anything good Khaldari KPA are recruiting In-game channel: khanidpublic
Ackercoke Caldari The Causality Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.07.15 10:50:00 - [11] /signed Its only right...although perhaps not throught the LP store as then it makes the "Freeing of slaves" seem less as it can be achieved anytime, and likewise the Amarr could just enslave away all they wanted.
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.07.15 10:52:00 - [12] I don't see how that's really worth much RP wise. It would be a lot nicer if there was some kind of concord record of these things. Slaves freed, rebels converted, kind of thing. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.07.15 10:58:00 - [13] Easy enough to do. Give minnie corps a not-many-lp offer for freed slaves with the cost being slaves. SoE ought to get it too. ----- Currently playing: Hello Kitty Online Character: Evil Kitty of DEATH
Mori Felding Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.07.15 10:59:00 - [14] aye, I miss them as well, please bring it back. Not like it hurt anything having about. ___ Memento Mori
Ugleb Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.07.15 11:02:00 - [15] Originally by: Frug I don't see how that's really worth much RP wise. It's worth one hell of alot to rp'ers. When people ask what we do with all the slaves we liberate (or if you're on the other side reclaim) we used to be able to say we arranged for them to enter into new lives/slavery. It's the point of our respective groups. Now we just have to fill up hangars with them as the game simply no longer allows us to do anything better. Originally by: Frug It would be a lot nicer if there was some kind of concord record of these things. Slaves freed, rebels converted, kind of thing. That would be the mk2 version of the feature we want to get back. Slave conversion gave us a real and tangible interaction with game mechanics, EVE needs more of this stuff to bring trade goods to life rather than just being something that clutters up the database.
Shern Minmatar Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.07.15 11:03:00 - [16] Yes, this is a nice bit of colour. Be nice to train those misled freedom fighters who run around the hanger into sturdy Kamieras. Well, ok, maybe that's pushing it !
Drakolus Amarr Minmatar United Freedom Front Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.07.15 12:01:00 - [17] Pretty please. Its kind of embarrassing to be a freedom fighter dedicated to freedom for all...and have a hangar full of slaves. I keep telling them to hang on, I will free them as soon as I can but I think some of them are starting to not believe me. Molden Heath Local #473
The Ratfink Itto-Ryu Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.15 12:24:00 - [18] I'm a mimmatar who flys amarr ships who needs slaves for those ships but erm die amarrian scum?!? im confused
Hon Kovell Gallente Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.07.15 13:59:00 - [19] Enslaving offers work fine in an LP store, since they're just a commercial transaction, but offers to free slaves are a bit onerous for your average freedom fighters. It doesn't make sense for them to do anything other than free slaves if it's so easy. It also wouldn't make much sense for the corp behind the offer to not do so. Other possible means are a rare trade mission (could be a problem since all trade missions were removed in the great mission death a few patches back), an escalation leading to ... a trade mission (okay, same possible problem), or an offer just like the old agent offers. While you're at it, would it be hard to bring back the occasional non-isk reward for missions? That small touch made missions a lot more interesting even if the end result is still just isk in asset form.

CCP Chronotis	Posted - 2007.07.15 14:07:00 - [20] You may be interested to know that capsuleers will in the near future have access to starbase facilities designed to aid the conversion of slaves to freed slaves and eventually to join the rebellion as freedom fighters and vice versa in a similar vein, the Amarrians will have access to turn refugees or freed slaves back to slaves and with time and 'specialised training' into kameiras.

Evanda Char Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.07.15 14:20:00 - [21] If we could also have the option to then educate freed slaves into "job" roles, that would be spiffy, like the old "Slave transformation" offer. -Eva- Electus Matari - taking it one bad guy at a time
Tsukiko Ishida Amarr Emanation Of Malevolent Outcries	Posted - 2007.07.15 14:29:00 - [22] Originally by: Evanda Char If we could also have the option to then educate freed slaves into "job" roles, that would be spiffy, like the old "Slave transformation" offer. Yea, like Militants into Kameiras. Since the new evebay, you can not sell or trade them. FAILEDÖ
Amantus Gallente Murientor Tribe	Posted - 2007.07.15 15:24:00 - [23] Originally by: CCP Chronotis You may be interested to know that capsuleers will in the near future have access to starbase facilities designed to aid the conversion of slaves to freed slaves and eventually to join the rebellion as freedom fighters and vice versa in a similar vein, the Amarrians will have access to turn refugees or freed slaves back to slaves and with time and 'specialised training' into kameiras. \o/ That's so damn awesome. ------------
Mattduk Gallente Universal Army	Posted - 2007.07.15 15:42:00 - [24] Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo This is essential! What do you expect heathens to do with slaves anyway? Get them to update your killboard for you? Just a suggestion :P Mattduk
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.07.15 16:08:00 - [25] maybe even allow for some on foot combat with your npc? you said there would be a hybrid rts planet game. or something :P I'm just saying people are shooting each other up all of the time in eve lore :) ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP
SiJira	Posted - 2007.07.15 16:12:00 - [26] Originally by: CCP Chronotis You may be interested to know that capsuleers will in the near future have access to starbase facilities designed to aid the conversion of slaves to freed slaves and eventually to join the rebellion as freedom fighters and vice versa in a similar vein, the Amarrians will have access to turn refugees or freed slaves back to slaves and with time and 'specialised training' into kameiras. i liked your blog about your first day as CCP ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
Mysticaa Gallente Fringe Roamers of Goa	Posted - 2007.07.15 16:18:00 - [27] Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo This is essential! What do you expect heathens to do with slaves anyway? Imagine that PvP without the pew pew. Essential? Absolutly! I may even make a board to keep track of which side is winning ----------------------------------------------- Why do I post here? Originally by: Tao Han "TANK CEO!!!" Quick Wrangler, to the Banmobile!!! Sig snatched by Xorus
Dorian Mystos Amarr Mystos Enterprises	Posted - 2007.07.15 16:23:00 - [28] Originally by: CCP Chronotis You may be interested to know that capsuleers will in the near future have access to starbase facilities designed to aid the conversion of slaves to freed slaves and eventually to join the rebellion as freedom fighters and vice versa in a similar vein, the Amarrians will have access to turn refugees or freed slaves back to slaves and with time and 'specialised training' into kameiras. Does that mean that NPC trade goods will be revamped in some way? Looking at the Domain market history shows that if there were a passenger type that anyone would want to sell it would be slaves. All other passengers usually sell for less than slaves and have abysmal demand, most not going over 1000 units on any day, while slaves trade in the tens of thousands regularly. Without creating some need for converting passengers of one type to another, either in the market or by adding different passengers to star base fuel requirements it would seem that the addition of this feature would just be a way to waste isk. I like the concept, but converting an items with moderate demand and decent profit into an item with little demand and probably no profit after star base costs seems kind of pointless.
Mysticaa Gallente Fringe Roamers of Goa	Posted - 2007.07.15 16:36:00 - [29] Oh I could see the value.. Minmater mission: Free X number of slaves for Y amount of LP Amar Mission: Enslave X number of Y type passenger for Z amount of LP CCP could also make differnt types of slaves.. i.e. Enslaved Scientist, Enslaved Gallente Tourist. Then the missions to free them could be tailored to the new types of slaves. Then Ammar customs could confiscate the new slaves from non-ammar players or those with low ammar faction standing. With fines of various levels based on the value of the slaves to the empire. ----------------------------------------------- Why do I post here? Originally by: Tao Han "TANK CEO!!!" Quick Wrangler, to the Banmobile!!! Sig snatched by Xorus
Suva Medinna Minmatar Acme Technologies Incorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.07.15 17:00:00 - [30] Slavery, being the abominable practice (and game mechanic) in Eve that it is, must be countered, and we need the ability to free, educate, and better the lives of these brothers in chains. I would like the option to do that. as far as the mechanics of doing it, for example, refugees could be trained as science grads, etc. these people could be instrumental in invention, and production. and on the other side of the coin, those pesky Slaver devils need a way to enslave and fulfill their misguided religious beliefs, etc.

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