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LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:14:00 - [1] At the moment, Gallente is the worst pvp + pve race, their dps is only good if you sacrifice tank for damage, whilst Caldari doesnt really gimp their tanks when they fit 3 bcs/3 magnetic field stabs. AND caldari has the ability to fit lots of ewar, and able to effeciently NPC. The recent EANM nerf has hurt some gallente ships so hard also. I dont see Invuls getting nerfd, even though they give a 30% bonus!!!, EANM's gives 20%. Also, people saying the Dominix is overpowerd, with max skills it does 475 dps and some nos, whilst the raven gets 800 dps!!! and a good tank, why ccp! Also gallente is crap at range, where caldari + minmatar + amarr is way better. U need to be close range to be good and u take lots of damage whilst getting in range, and even when u are range, your dps isnt much unless u have gimped your tank severly, and gallente ships has big fitting problem ( domi 9k pg!) So why ccp? Dont like french ( gallente )? PLEASE FIX GALLENTE. ______________________________________________ some guy telling a noob that pirates doesnt check their age before attacking "ooh! an age quip! very clever,I'm probably older than you darling! xx
Hyuuga Veralis Pator Tech School	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:16:00 - [2] I give this troll thread 0 out of 10.
bldyannoyed Un4seen Development	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:17:00 - [3] FFS Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Marduk Starkiller Maelstrom Crew	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:18:00 - [4] Edited by: Marduk Starkiller on 16/07/2007 17:17:28 LMAAAOOOO Is it hot where you live? -----------
Sharupak Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:18:00 - [5] Nice one. I would just let it go though. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:20:00 - [6] why r u taking this as a joke? caldari - best for pve minmatar = best for pvp who cares about amarrr. where does this leave gallente!? ______________________________________________ some guy telling a noob that pirates doesnt check their age before attacking "ooh! an age quip! very clever,I'm probably older than you darling! xx
Benn Helmsman Caldari Helmsman Engineering Company	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:20:00 - [7] Originally by: LMAAAOOOO At the moment, Gallente is the worst pvp + pve race, their dps is only good if you sacrifice tank for damage, whilst Caldari doesnt really gimp their tanks when they fit 3 bcs/3 magnetic field stabs. AND caldari has the ability to fit lots of ewar, and able to effeciently NPC. The recent EANM nerf has hurt some gallente ships so hard also. I dont see Invuls getting nerfd, even though they give a 30% bonus!!!, EANM's gives 20%. Also, people saying the Dominix is overpowerd, with max skills it does 475 dps and some nos, whilst the raven gets 800 dps!!! and a good tank, why ccp! Also gallente is crap at range, where caldari + minmatar + amarr is way better. U need to be close range to be good and u take lots of damage whilst getting in range, and even when u are range, your dps isnt much unless u have gimped your tank severly, and gallente ships has big fitting problem ( domi 9k pg!) So why ccp? Dont like french ( gallente )? PLEASE FIX GALLENTE. Well there are a lot wrong facts you put up here, gallente is exellent in pvp[best close range and very good fleet sniper]+pve[t2 sentry drones] Plz give an example of a 800dps raven.
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:21:00 - [8] Originally by: Benn Helmsman Originally by: LMAAAOOOO At the moment, Gallente is the worst pvp + pve race, their dps is only good if you sacrifice tank for damage, whilst Caldari doesnt really gimp their tanks when they fit 3 bcs/3 magnetic field stabs. AND caldari has the ability to fit lots of ewar, and able to effeciently NPC. The recent EANM nerf has hurt some gallente ships so hard also. I dont see Invuls getting nerfd, even though they give a 30% bonus!!!, EANM's gives 20%. Also, people saying the Dominix is overpowerd, with max skills it does 475 dps and some nos, whilst the raven gets 800 dps!!! and a good tank, why ccp! Also gallente is crap at range, where caldari + minmatar + amarr is way better. U need to be close range to be good and u take lots of damage whilst getting in range, and even when u are range, your dps isnt much unless u have gimped your tank severly, and gallente ships has big fitting problem ( domi 9k pg!) So why ccp? Dont like french ( gallente )? PLEASE FIX GALLENTE. Well there are a lot wrong facts you put up here, gallente is exellent in pvp[best close range and very good fleet sniper]+pve[t2 sentry drones] Plz give an example of a 800dps raven. U are dumb and ignorant to say that gallente is good at pvp and pve,while the raven does 800 dps from rage. Good day sir. ______________________________________________ some guy telling a noob that pirates doesnt check their age before attacking "ooh! an age quip! very clever,I'm probably older than you darling! xx
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:21:00 - [9] Originally by: Benn Helmsman Originally by: LMAAAOOOO At the moment, Gallente is the worst pvp + pve race, their dps is only good if you sacrifice tank for damage, whilst Caldari doesnt really gimp their tanks when they fit 3 bcs/3 magnetic field stabs. AND caldari has the ability to fit lots of ewar, and able to effeciently NPC. The recent EANM nerf has hurt some gallente ships so hard also. I dont see Invuls getting nerfd, even though they give a 30% bonus!!!, EANM's gives 20%. Also, people saying the Dominix is overpowerd, with max skills it does 475 dps and some nos, whilst the raven gets 800 dps!!! and a good tank, why ccp! Also gallente is crap at range, where caldari + minmatar + amarr is way better. U need to be close range to be good and u take lots of damage whilst getting in range, and even when u are range, your dps isnt much unless u have gimped your tank severly, and gallente ships has big fitting problem ( domi 9k pg!) So why ccp? Dont like french ( gallente )? PLEASE FIX GALLENTE. Well there are a lot wrong facts you put up here, gallente is exellent in pvp[best close range and very good fleet sniper]+pve[t2 sentry drones] Plz give an example of a 800dps raven. ghetto t2 with 3 bcu II and t2 torps and 5 hammerheads II -------- I tanked D2 capital fleet and all I got was truncated Erebus mail.
Sharupak Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:22:00 - [10] I dont think I have seen Caldari and Amarr fight it out yet for who wins the we suck worse whine trophy yet. Perhaps this thread will do the trick. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
Not Bait	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:22:00 - [11] Lmaaaooo is finally starting to see the light.
Benn Helmsman Caldari Helmsman Engineering Company	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:23:00 - [12] Well there might be a possible fitting that can deliver something above 650 dps.. but thats at a webbed, target painted target, plus the fitting requirements for 6 t2 siege launcher will cripple a raven in every way.
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:23:00 - [13] Originally by: LUKEC Originally by: Benn Helmsman Originally by: LMAAAOOOO At the moment, Gallente is the worst pvp + pve race, their dps is only good if you sacrifice tank for damage, whilst Caldari doesnt really gimp their tanks when they fit 3 bcs/3 magnetic field stabs. AND caldari has the ability to fit lots of ewar, and able to effeciently NPC. The recent EANM nerf has hurt some gallente ships so hard also. I dont see Invuls getting nerfd, even though they give a 30% bonus!!!, EANM's gives 20%. Also, people saying the Dominix is overpowerd, with max skills it does 475 dps and some nos, whilst the raven gets 800 dps!!! and a good tank, why ccp! Also gallente is crap at range, where caldari + minmatar + amarr is way better. U need to be close range to be good and u take lots of damage whilst getting in range, and even when u are range, your dps isnt much unless u have gimped your tank severly, and gallente ships has big fitting problem ( domi 9k pg!) So why ccp? Dont like french ( gallente )? PLEASE FIX GALLENTE. Well there are a lot wrong facts you put up here, gallente is exellent in pvp[best close range and very good fleet sniper]+pve[t2 sentry drones] Plz give an example of a 800dps raven. ghetto t2 with 3 bcu II and t2 torps and 5 hammerheads II Finaly some 1 with an IQ higher than 5. ______________________________________________ some guy telling a noob that pirates doesnt check their age before attacking "ooh! an age quip! very clever,I'm probably older than you darling! xx
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:24:00 - [14] Originally by: Benn Helmsman Well there might be a possible fitting that can deliver something above 650 dps.. but thats at a webbed, target painted target, plus the fitting requirements for 6 t2 siege launcher will cripple a raven in every way. U need 2 web ppl with gallente ships dont u ?? got u there! i win ______________________________________________ some guy telling a noob that pirates doesnt check their age before attacking "ooh! an age quip! very clever,I'm probably older than you darling! xx
Markus Aurelian	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:25:00 - [15] smokin rocks is bad mmkay i thought you were being sarcastic in the beginning, but apparently not. fly more, start poorly thought out threads less. gallente are excellent pvp ships and make good mission ships as well (dominix anyone?). if anything its the races you think are overpowered that need boosting (the "who cares about amarr" says a lot about your concept of game balance). Meatwad FTW
Benn Helmsman Caldari Helmsman Engineering Company	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:26:00 - [16] Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Originally by: Benn Helmsman Well there might be a possible fitting that can deliver something above 650 dps.. but thats at a webbed, target painted target, plus the fitting requirements for 6 t2 siege launcher will cripple a raven in every way. U need 2 web ppl with gallente ships dont u ?? got u there! i win Even if you would need 2 webs to hit something with blasters (which i cant agree to) You still need target painting, not to mention the tank of the raven would be non existent due to CPU problems.
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:28:00 - [17] Originally by: Markus Aurelian smokin rocks is bad mmkay i thought you were being sarcastic in the beginning, but apparently not. fly more, start poorly thought out threads less. gallente are excellent pvp ships and make good mission ships as well (dominix anyone?). if anything its the races you think are overpowered that need boosting (the "who cares about amarr" says a lot about your concept of game balance). Post facts... Raven is better than dominix for pve and pvp because missiles allways hit. oranges vs apples. ______________________________________________ some guy telling a noob that pirates doesnt check their age before attacking "ooh! an age quip! very clever,I'm probably older than you darling! xx
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:28:00 - [18] Edited by: DubanFP on 16/07/2007 17:29:47 ROFLMFAO, this thread is classic newbieness at it's best. I'm sorry but that post is soo horribly off on soo many levels it's not even worth arguing with. Why do you think everyone is laughing at you and no one is actually giving details. It's just THAT bad. ________________ DubanFP> Feigning "honor" is just a way to get the other guy to screw himself over, hopefully to your benefit
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:29:00 - [19] Originally by: Benn Helmsman Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Originally by: Benn Helmsman Well there might be a possible fitting that can deliver something above 650 dps.. but thats at a webbed, target painted target, plus the fitting requirements for 6 t2 siege launcher will cripple a raven in every way. U need 2 web ppl with gallente ships dont u ?? got u there! i win Even if you would need 2 webs to hit something with blasters (which i cant agree to) You still need target painting, not to mention the tank of the raven would be non existent due to CPU problems. U have 5 low slots - USE THEM, put in a dg co-pro. one x-large shield booster = 2 lar, saving u 2 mid slots. compared to dominix. 2 invul II's = 3 EANM II's, saving u 3 midslots. in total u have saved 5 midslots due to caldari being overpowerd. ______________________________________________ some guy telling a noob that pirates doesnt check their age before attacking "ooh! an age quip! very clever,I'm probably older than you darling! xx
Vorn	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:30:00 - [20] 3x BCS II 6x Siege II Rage Torps 2xOgre II 2xHammerhead II 1x Hobgoblin II 759.5dps Not exactly 800 but close enough. I agree with OP PvE they are useless beyond wreckoning. Only good thing gallente have is an Iteron Mark V
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:32:00 - [21] Originally by: Vorn 3x BCS II 6x Siege II Rage Torps 2xOgre II 2xHammerhead II 1x Hobgoblin II 759.5dps Not exactly 800 but close enough. I agree with OP PvE they are useless beyond wreckoning. Only good thing gallente have is an Iteron Mark V QFT iteron mark v is good cos it can fit a gun and can fit lots of ammo same time, BUT this isnt about nerfing gallente ships ( that has been nerfd already ) also i want to be able 2 shoot ppls guns considering they can shoots my drones. ______________________________________________ some guy telling a noob that pirates doesnt check their age before attacking "ooh! an age quip! very clever,I'm probably older than you darling! xx
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:32:00 - [22] Edited by: DubanFP on 16/07/2007 17:32:48 Originally by: Vorn 3x BCS II 6x Siege II Rage Torps 2xOgre II 2xHammerhead II 1x Hobgoblin II 759.5dps Not exactly 800 but close enough. I agree with OP PvE they are useless beyond wreckoning. Only good thing gallente have is an Iteron Mark V ROFLMFAO forget stacking penalties.... Not to mention signature radius against any target that's worth shooting. signature radius & explosion velocity alone against a BS sized target will take at least half that, if not more. Ok yeah just read post above and this is obviously troll. ________________ DubanFP> Feigning "honor" is just a way to get the other guy to screw himself over, hopefully to your benefit
Vorn	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:33:00 - [23] Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 16/07/2007 17:32:48 Originally by: Vorn 3x BCS II 6x Siege II Rage Torps 2xOgre II 2xHammerhead II 1x Hobgoblin II 759.5dps Not exactly 800 but close enough. I agree with OP PvE they are useless beyond wreckoning. Only good thing gallente have is an Iteron Mark V ROFLMFAO forget stacking penalties.... Not to mention signature radius against any target that's worth shooting. signature radius & explosion velocity alone against a BS sized target will take at least half that, if not more. Ok yeah just read post above and this is obviously troll. dps quoted as RAW as is all dps quotes.
Benn Helmsman Caldari Helmsman Engineering Company	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:34:00 - [24] Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Originally by: Benn Helmsman Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Originally by: Benn Helmsman Well there might be a possible fitting that can deliver something above 650 dps.. but thats at a webbed, target painted target, plus the fitting requirements for 6 t2 siege launcher will cripple a raven in every way. U need 2 web ppl with gallente ships dont u ?? got u there! i win Even if you would need 2 webs to hit something with blasters (which i cant agree to) You still need target painting, not to mention the tank of the raven would be non existent due to CPU problems. U have 5 low slots - USE THEM, put in a dg co-pro. one x-large shield booster = 2 lar, saving u 2 mid slots. compared to dominix. 2 invul II's = 3 EANM II's, saving u 3 midslots. in total u have saved 5 midslots due to caldari being overpowerd. Sry but i think you post all these obvious wrong statements on purpose to flamebait. If you put in 3 BCU II, 1 (faction) CPU, you have 1 low left [you will need that for a PG mod], so more low slots. Now you have 6 med slots... for tackle,cap booster and tank. Which is not really a lot.
Garmon	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:36:00 - [25] Edited by: Garmon on 16/07/2007 17:36:32 Joke thread
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:37:00 - [26] Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 16/07/2007 17:32:48 Originally by: Vorn 3x BCS II 6x Siege II Rage Torps 2xOgre II 2xHammerhead II 1x Hobgoblin II 759.5dps Not exactly 800 but close enough. I agree with OP PvE they are useless beyond wreckoning. Only good thing gallente have is an Iteron Mark V ROFLMFAO forget stacking penalties.... Not to mention signature radius against any target that's worth shooting. signature radius & explosion velocity alone against a BS sized target will take at least half that, if not more. Ok yeah just read post above and this is obviously troll. ****s like u arn't good for this game, leave, and EVERY 1 THAT ISNT A **** FITS 3 BCS. THx. ______________________________________________ some guy telling a noob that pirates doesnt check their age before attacking "ooh! an age quip! very clever,I'm probably older than you darling! xx
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:37:00 - [27] Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 16/07/2007 17:32:48 Originally by: Vorn 3x BCS II 6x Siege II Rage Torps 2xOgre II 2xHammerhead II 1x Hobgoblin II 759.5dps Not exactly 800 but close enough. I agree with OP PvE they are useless beyond wreckoning. Only good thing gallente have is an Iteron Mark V ROFLMFAO forget stacking penalties.... Not to mention signature radius against any target that's worth shooting. signature radius & explosion velocity alone against a BS sized target will take at least half that, if not more. Ok yeah just read post above and this is obviously troll. ****s like u arn't good for this game, leave, and EVERY 1 THAT ISNT A **** FITS 3 BCS. THx. Having fun with your trollyness much? ________________ DubanFP> Feigning "honor" is just a way to get the other guy to screw himself over, hopefully to your benefit
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:39:00 - [28] Originally by: Benn Helmsman Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Originally by: Benn Helmsman Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Originally by: Benn Helmsman Well there might be a possible fitting that can deliver something above 650 dps.. but thats at a webbed, target painted target, plus the fitting requirements for 6 t2 siege launcher will cripple a raven in every way. U need 2 web ppl with gallente ships dont u ?? got u there! i win Even if you would need 2 webs to hit something with blasters (which i cant agree to) You still need target painting, not to mention the tank of the raven would be non existent due to CPU problems. U have 5 low slots - USE THEM, put in a dg co-pro. one x-large shield booster = 2 lar, saving u 2 mid slots. compared to dominix. 2 invul II's = 3 EANM II's, saving u 3 midslots. in total u have saved 5 midslots due to caldari being overpowerd. Sry but i think you post all these obvious wrong statements on purpose to flamebait. If you put in 3 BCU II, 1 (faction) CPU, you have 1 low left [you will need that for a PG mod], so more low slots. Now you have 6 med slots... for tackle,cap booster and tank. Which is not really a lot. 6 med slots is enough think outside the box apples oranges ______________________________________________ some guy telling a noob that pirates doesnt check their age before attacking "ooh! an age quip! very clever,I'm probably older than you darling! xx
Lore Isander Caldari Paisti	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:39:00 - [29] Anyone who seriously responds to this troll, god forgive him for that.. --- How do I shot web?
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:40:00 - [30] Originally by: Lore Isander Anyone who seriously responds to this troll, god forgive him for that.. If god doesnt forgive u, u go to hell, am i right? ______________________________________________ some guy telling a noob that pirates doesnt check their age before attacking "ooh! an age quip! very clever,I'm probably older than you darling! xx
Arctic Spring	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:44:00 - [31] Me and my freind just started this game a few weeks ago, I used to be Gallente but I did not like ther frigates! My freind made caldari and he allways killed me with help from these guys called concord. So I have made a Caldari character now, his missiles did lots more than my small hybrid turrets did, with better range too. Im enjoying my caldari character now, but I still get killed by those concord when I fight my freind. I think its illegal or something, not sure.
Sharupak Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:44:00 - [32] Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Originally by: Lore Isander Anyone who seriously responds to this troll, god forgive him for that.. If god doesnt forgive u, u go to hell, am i right? Yeah but if your catholic, you get the last rights anyways so non of them go to hell. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
Sharupak Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:45:00 - [33] Originally by: Arctic Spring Me and my freind just started this game a few weeks ago, I used to be Gallente but I did not like ther frigates! My freind made caldari and he allways killed me with help from these guys called concord. So I have made a Caldari character now, his missiles did lots more than my small hybrid turrets did, with better range too. Im enjoying my caldari character now, but I still get killed by those concord when I fight my freind. I think its illegal or something, not sure. ROFLMFAO!!! _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:48:00 - [34] Originally by: Arctic Spring Me and my freind just started this game a few weeks ago, I used to be Gallente but I did not like ther frigates! My freind made caldari and he allways killed me with help from these guys called concord. So I have made a Caldari character now, his missiles did lots more than my small hybrid turrets did, with better range too. Im enjoying my caldari character now, but I still get killed by those concord when I fight my freind. I think its illegal or something, not sure. U made the right choice, gallente seriously needs a fix, Caldari does more than 100+ dmg easily by missiles, do drones? nO. ______________________________________________ some guy telling a noob that pirates doesnt check their age before attacking "ooh! an age quip! very clever,I'm probably older than you darling! xx
welsh wizard 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:53:00 - [35] Sarcasm springs to mind.
Sharupak Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:54:00 - [36] Originally by: welsh wizard Sarcasm springs to mind. ALT Trolling does too! _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
Lord Loom Loom Service	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:57:00 - [37] joke thread!
Pinky Denmark The Cursed Navy	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:58:00 - [38] ROFLMAO - You don't have a clue... EANM's are passive which is why they give lower resist - they also get bonus from armor compensation skills... those invulnerability fields will shut down fast when you're out of cap Dominix doesn't need super damage to be overpowered when it can shut down any active tank dealing still ok damage. and I bet a 800dps Raven won't tank very well... Crap at range? first off almost all fights start within 20-30... Blasterships might have to travel a bit, but Heavy Nos and drones don't do bad at these ranges? Most caldari ships will have lost the range advantage immediately unless we ofcourse are talking missile ships which in most cases still have a range bonus which they don't have a use for. It's ok that people believe in a gallente boost - but this post is just wrong... - I'm a nice guy!! and OMG I love Team Tuxford for the speedbalancing...
Leandro Salazar The Blackguard Wolves	Posted - 2007.07.16 17:58:00 - [39] Oh noes it is Zixxas evil Gallente twin! There is no 'n' in turret There is no 'r' in faction There is no 'a' in Scorpion There is no 'e' in Caldari There is no makeup in rogue drones
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 18:01:00 - [40] Originally by: Pinky Denmark ROFLMAO - You don't have a clue... EANM's are passive which is why they give lower resist - they also get bonus from armor compensation skills... those invulnerability fields will shut down fast when you're out of cap Dominix doesn't need super damage to be overpowered when it can shut down any active tank dealing still ok damage. and I bet a 800dps Raven won't tank very well... Crap at range? first off almost all fights start within 20-30... Blasterships might have to travel a bit, but Heavy Nos and drones don't do bad at these ranges? Most caldari ships will have lost the range advantage immediately unless we ofcourse are talking missile ships which in most cases still have a range bonus which they don't have a use for. It's ok that people believe in a gallente boost - but this post is just wrong... another ignorant post.. gallente useless at long range and the other races r good how this fair! ______________________________________________ some guy telling a noob that pirates doesnt check their age before attacking "ooh! an age quip! very clever,I'm probably older than you darling! xx
Antikas Sourr Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.16 18:04:00 - [41] Originally by: LMAAAOOOO who cares about amarrr. Do you even know what you're talking about? Get your head examined.
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 18:09:00 - [42] Originally by: Antikas Sourr Originally by: LMAAAOOOO who cares about amarrr. Do you even know what you're talking about? Get your head examined. ur caldari so u need to get head examined ______________________________________________ some guy telling a noob that pirates doesnt check their age before attacking "ooh! an age quip! very clever,I'm probably older than you darling! xx
Antikas Sourr Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.16 18:11:00 - [43] Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Originally by: Antikas Sourr Originally by: LMAAAOOOO who cares about amarrr. Do you even know what you're talking about? Get your head examined. ur caldari so u need to get head examined Not really dude. I found it a smart choice to start out as Caldari to run missions. Got a Raven, and can run almost any lvl 4. Got bored with the race, and I tried Gallente which I did not like. Tried Amarr, and I love it. Do yourself a favor and train up something you wont complain about. If you still doubt me, go fight against a gang with a few Amarr recon's, you'll get owned.
Markus Aurelian	Posted - 2007.07.16 18:13:00 - [44] Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Originally by: Antikas Sourr Originally by: LMAAAOOOO who cares about amarrr. Do you even know what you're talking about? Get your head examined. ur caldari so u need to get head examined ability to train whatever you want regardless of starting race 4tw alt troll post ftl Meatwad FTW
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 18:16:00 - [45] Edited by: LMAAAOOOO on 16/07/2007 18:16:21 Originally by: Antikas Sourr Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Originally by: Antikas Sourr Originally by: LMAAAOOOO who cares about amarrr. Do you even know what you're talking about? Get your head examined. ur caldari so u need to get head examined Not really dude. I found it a smart choice to start out as Caldari to run missions. Got a Raven, and can run almost any lvl 4. Got bored with the race, and I tried Gallente which I did not like. Tried Amarr, and I love it. Do yourself a favor and train up something you wont complain about. If you still doubt me, go fight against a gang with a few Amarr recon's, you'll get owned. Ignorance is bliss. ______________________________________________ some guy telling a noob that pirates doesnt check their age before attacking "ooh! an age quip! very clever,I'm probably older than you darling! xx
Callente Riveara Gallente Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.07.16 18:17:00 - [46] Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Edited by: LMAAAOOOO on 16/07/2007 18:16:21 Originally by: Antikas Sourr Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Originally by: Antikas Sourr Originally by: LMAAAOOOO who cares about amarrr. Do you even know what you're talking about? Get your head examined. ur caldari so u need to get head examined Not really dude. I found it a smart choice to start out as Caldari to run missions. Got a Raven, and can run almost any lvl 4. Got bored with the race, and I tried Gallente which I did not like. Tried Amarr, and I love it. Do yourself a favor and train up something you wont complain about. If you still doubt me, go fight against a gang with a few Amarr recon's, you'll get owned. Ignorance is bliss. is that why your so happy?
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 18:18:00 - [47] Originally by: Callente Riveara Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Edited by: LMAAAOOOO on 16/07/2007 18:16:21 Originally by: Antikas Sourr Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Originally by: Antikas Sourr Originally by: LMAAAOOOO who cares about amarrr. Do you even know what you're talking about? Get your head examined. ur caldari so u need to get head examined Not really dude. I found it a smart choice to start out as Caldari to run missions. Got a Raven, and can run almost any lvl 4. Got bored with the race, and I tried Gallente which I did not like. Tried Amarr, and I love it. Do yourself a favor and train up something you wont complain about. If you still doubt me, go fight against a gang with a few Amarr recon's, you'll get owned. Ignorance is bliss. is that why your so happy? What a stupid post, from the op u can CLEARLY see that I am not happy. ______________________________________________ some guy telling a noob that pirates doesnt check their age before attacking "ooh! an age quip! very clever,I'm probably older than you darling! xx
Captain Crimson United Mining Corporation	Posted - 2007.07.16 18:21:00 - [48] If you're going to troll, at least point a useful topic then victimize people as you have a huge ego problem, a love for the ships of a certain race and an inability to accept facts. Good day chaps. Originally by: Tuxford I have already expressed my personal opinion on this and it was very positive (something about happy in the pants).
Antikas Sourr Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.16 18:22:00 - [49] Edited by: Antikas Sourr on 16/07/2007 18:23:14 Oh I see now what is making you un-happy. LMAAAOOOO: Science and Trade Institute from 2007.05.14 16:43 to this day. You are a newb. Do yourself a favor and train up some skills and you might find yourself half the idiot you are. Edit: If you say that since I'm Caldari and need my head examined, I would say the same to yourself as you are Caldari.
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.07.16 18:33:00 - [50] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 16/07/2007 18:35:42 Switch to Amarr. Edit: Noticed you already did. Oki. So when can we expect an amarr whine thread? --- Originally by: CCP Wrangler You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
Antikas Sourr Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.16 18:39:00 - [51] Who are you speaking to?
Naomi Wildfire Amarr Stardust Heavy Industries	Posted - 2007.07.16 18:45:00 - [52] This thread kicks ass :) Best Whine Thread so far
Rilder Caldari THC LTD	Posted - 2007.07.16 18:58:00 - [53] This is sooo a joke thread tbh. Visit my blog =)http://rilderslog.blogspot.com/
Guillame Herschel Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.07.16 19:16:00 - [54] Originally by: LMAAAOOOO U need to be close range to be good and u take lots of damage whilst getting in range, and even when u are range, your dps isnt much unless u have gimped your tank severly u nd 2 stop xing txt msgs were nt usng cell phones ffs lol -- Guile can always trump hardware --
Incantare Caldari Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.16 19:32:00 - [55] Edited by: Incantare on 16/07/2007 19:32:35 Drones get shot by sentries. So unfair! :( Also drones are stupid, sometimes I have to click twice before my targets start dying. Needs a boost IMHO.
Wayward Hooligan Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.16 19:37:00 - [56] The counter trolling in this thread is hilarious. LMAAAOOOO is using the exact same posting style as that douche Benn Helmsmann. Bwahahaha counter troll ftw!
Mitsuko Anari	Posted - 2007.07.16 19:38:00 - [57] <3
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.07.16 19:41:00 - [58] Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Edited by: LMAAAOOOO on 16/07/2007 18:16:21 Originally by: Antikas Sourr Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Originally by: Antikas Sourr Originally by: LMAAAOOOO who cares about amarrr. Do you even know what you're talking about? Get your head examined. ur caldari so u need to get head examined Not really dude. I found it a smart choice to start out as Caldari to run missions. Got a Raven, and can run almost any lvl 4. Got bored with the race, and I tried Gallente which I did not like. Tried Amarr, and I love it. Do yourself a favor and train up something you wont complain about. If you still doubt me, go fight against a gang with a few Amarr recon's, you'll get owned. Ignorance is bliss. Touche. - Michael Schumacher won many a formula one race. Alot of the time he didn't win because he had a better car...he won because HE WAS A BETTER DRIVER and because he used SUPERIOR TACTICS.
Lubomir Kratochvil Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.16 19:42:00 - [59] Edited by: Lubomir Kratochvil on 16/07/2007 19:44:02 I will only respond to one part of this silly whining thread. If you think Gallente suck at range, I point you to the Megathron and the Hyperion. Fitted with 425 Railgun IIs they will hit at 200km+ no problem. Now stop your whining. kthxbye Today is the tomorrow that you should have feared yesterday.
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 19:44:00 - [60] Originally by: Wayward Hooligan The counter trolling in this thread is hilarious. LMAAAOOOO is using the exact same posting style as that douche Benn Helmsmann. Bwahahaha counter troll ftw! If there is Evil, there is also good. However that isn't the case here, If there is Reeeetaaards, there are also a Genious, wala! ______________________________________________ some guy telling a noob that pirates doesnt check their age before attacking "ooh! an age quip! very clever,I'm probably older than you darling! xx
Lubomir Kratochvil Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.16 19:47:00 - [61] Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Originally by: Wayward Hooligan The counter trolling in this thread is hilarious. LMAAAOOOO is using the exact same posting style as that douche Benn Helmsmann. Bwahahaha counter troll ftw! If there is Evil, there is also good. However that isn't the case here, If there is Reeeetaaards, there are also a Genious, wala! P.S. Gotta love a guy who spells "genius" wrong when using it to refer to himself. Today is the tomorrow that you should have feared yesterday.
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 19:47:00 - [62] Originally by: Lubomir Kratochvil Edited by: Lubomir Kratochvil on 16/07/2007 19:44:02 I will only respond to one part of this silly whining thread. If you think Gallente suck at range, I point you to the Megathron and the Hyperion. Fitted with 425 Railgun IIs they will hit at 200km+ no problem. Now stop your whining. kthxbye no u dnt liar! U MAKE THINGS UP U BULLY ______________________________________________ some guy telling a noob that pirates doesnt check their age before attacking "ooh! an age quip! very clever,I'm probably older than you darling! xx
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 19:48:00 - [63] Originally by: Lubomir Kratochvil Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Originally by: Wayward Hooligan The counter trolling in this thread is hilarious. LMAAAOOOO is using the exact same posting style as that douche Benn Helmsmann. Bwahahaha counter troll ftw! If there is Evil, there is also good. However that isn't the case here, If there is Reeeetaaards, there are also a Genious, wala! P.S. Gotta love a guy who spells "genius" wrong when using it to refer to himself. I was refering to Benn Helmsmann as the Genious, your as reeetarded as me! ______________________________________________ some guy telling a noob that pirates doesnt check their age before attacking "ooh! an age quip! very clever,I'm probably older than you darling! xx
Arrgs Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2007.07.16 20:21:00 - [64] If I was a mod I would ban people like the OP. I'd also encourage flaming in CAOD threads. I'd be awsome. I am awsome. My first video!
Marfew Jae Gallente	Posted - 2007.07.16 20:31:00 - [65] Faction Warfare has hit the Forums.
Calarn Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.16 20:32:00 - [66] I eagerly await the thread you'll make on SHC revealing your main and saying how good your trolling is on eveo.
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 20:40:00 - [67] Edited by: LMAAAOOOO on 16/07/2007 20:40:02 Originally by: Arrgs If I was a mod I would ban people like the OP. I'd also encourage flaming in CAOD threads. I'd be awsome. I am awsome. But you're not a mod Are you? Tinfoil hat ______________________________________________ some guy telling a noob that pirates doesnt check their age before attacking "ooh! an age quip! very clever,I'm probably older than you darling! xx
welsh wizard 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.07.16 21:01:00 - [68] Is it still not apparent that this guy is taking the ****?
Liang Nuren The Refugees	Posted - 2007.07.16 21:05:00 - [69] Hahahaha.. this is a great thread. Caldari do need to stop whining though (and that is the point of this thread, I'm sure). They're not THAT bad off. They could be Amarr. Liang Originally by: "QproQ" When people say "Put 'stabs on your 'cane", they mean GYROSTABS"
Incantare Caldari Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.16 21:07:00 - [70] Someone is worse off than Caldari, quick stop asking for balance! Everything is fine.
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 21:11:00 - [71] Originally by: Incantare Someone is worse off than Caldari, quick stop asking for balance! Everything is fine. That being gallente ______________________________________________ some guy telling a noob that pirates doesnt check their age before attacking "ooh! an age quip! very clever,I'm probably older than you darling! xx
Neuromandis	Posted - 2007.07.16 21:12:00 - [72] I approve of this thread. My god I'm gonna fall off the chair. Congrats. --- If someone else from my Corporation or Alliance agrees with me, he will say so. Assume nobody does :) --- WTB: Scorpion wing (left)
Liang Nuren The Refugees	Posted - 2007.07.16 21:15:00 - [73] Originally by: Incantare Someone is worse off than Caldari, quick stop asking for balance! Everything is fine. Meh, I agree that Caldari isn't great, but 5 out of the top 10 threads lately have been Caldari whining to get everything else under the sun nerfed. The Drake has the DPS of a wet paper bag ... but I get kills in it. Even lots of kills. The Ferox sucks next to the Brutix. I think it needs +2 turret slots to be even remotely competative to the Brutix. The Moa just sucks all the way around. On the other hand: The Raven rocks for PVE, and its not as bad for gang PVP as everyone says. The Scorp is a PURE DEDICATED PVP battleship. The Rokh is really amazing too (though people still whine about it). Every race has its crappy ships though... But really... every other thread on the front page crying about boosting caldari and nerfing everyone else is getting old. Most of its probably the Army of Alts realizing that enough whining can get anything nerfed (with a recent example being the Drake). That doesn't make it right or not annoying. Liang Originally by: "QproQ" When people say "Put 'stabs on your 'cane", they mean GYROSTABS"
Incantare Caldari Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.16 21:40:00 - [74] Edited by: Incantare on 16/07/2007 21:42:47 Congratulations Liang, you broke the thread. This is no place for serious answers. Anyway, there's idiotic whine threads (that's for you Ben) and then there's legitimate balance concerns like all the threads on some Caldari gunboats lacking turrets. Every race has bad ships - true, but Caldari has far more of them than Gallente and Minmatar, you'd be seeing a whole lot less whines from Caldari and Amarr if things were actually balanced. As for the Drake, I would take a Brutix over it in most situations and the Myrm completly blows it away. Like many other Caldari ships it is good in missions but lacking in PvP ability compared to the other races' ships. Of course Amarr have their problems as well.
Liang Nuren The Refugees	Posted - 2007.07.16 21:50:00 - [75] Originally by: Incantare Edited by: Incantare on 16/07/2007 21:42:47 Congratulations Liang, you broke the thread. This is no place for serious answers. Whoops. Someday I'll learn to leave a joke alone and not kill it. Liang Originally by: "QproQ" When people say "Put 'stabs on your 'cane", they mean GYROSTABS"
Dexton Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.16 21:53:00 - [76] Originally by: LMAAAOOOO At the moment, Gallente is the worst pvp + pve race, their dps is only good if you sacrifice tank for damage, whilst Caldari doesnt really gimp their tanks when they fit 3 bcs/3 magnetic field stabs. AND caldari has the ability to fit lots of ewar, and able to effeciently NPC. The recent EANM nerf has hurt some gallente ships so hard also. I dont see Invuls getting nerfd, even though they give a 30% bonus!!!, EANM's gives 20%. Also, people saying the Dominix is overpowerd, with max skills it does 475 dps and some nos, whilst the raven gets 800 dps!!! and a good tank, why ccp! Also gallente is crap at range, where caldari + minmatar + amarr is way better. U need to be close range to be good and u take lots of damage whilst getting in range, and even when u are range, your dps isnt much unless u have gimped your tank severly, and gallente ships has big fitting problem ( domi 9k pg!) So why ccp? Dont like french ( gallente )? PLEASE FIX GALLENTE. Just a few facts you for get about. 1) it doesnt matter how many bcu's u put on a raven its never gonna get close to the megathrons damage capabilities 2) yes damage mods take low slots but tackling gear, mwd and cap booster are way more eccencial to pvp than any thing else, with a pvp fitting a raven has 2 slots for tank while a gank mega with 3 damage mods has 4 for tank left while also boosting its damage potentials over 1200dps, so double the tank and double the tank how is that fair? 3) dominix is way capabile of doing +1000 dps but of caurse if u dont fit any guns your gonna have a lack in damage doohh. But you are underestimating the power of nos. Since you clearly dont know im gonna explain to you in a simple way, Nos draines cap even though npcs dont player ships depend on cap for their tank so if u nos all the cap away wich 4 med nos and 2 heavy nos as gonna do( they add upto 44 cap drained per second). So when your opponent doesnt have any tank it doesnt matter if u have 400 dps or 800 dps its only a matter of time till he dies doesnt really matter if its 20 sec or 40 sec. 4) Ffs when are ppl gonna get it that invu's are active hardeners and eanm's are passive that with the 20% extra res armor gets explains the diffrence also that 20% goes to 24 with skills so. 5) Range doesnt gimp gallente at all, in 1 vs 1 you only have the 24km to play with. Look at the stats for Large blasters. And for fleet pvp their is no arguing that caldari are the most gimped with their 40 second delay in dmg, but since fleet battles happen mostly at 200-150km wich the mega can easely handle it isnt a problem for them. 6) for pve Raven is the king and always will be the king but the domi follows up close with its drones not using cap or ammo and its huge tank leaving highs to extra dmg or salvage and tractor beams to speed things up. the mega with its shear dmg also isnt that bad. Please get a dictionary and search for the word fact it might help you alot knowing what its about before starting a thread like this. -Please excuse my bad english grammar and spelling-
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 22:06:00 - [77] Originally by: Dexton Originally by: LMAAAOOOO At the moment, Gallente is the worst pvp + pve race, their dps is only good if you sacrifice tank for damage, whilst Caldari doesnt really gimp their tanks when they fit 3 bcs/3 magnetic field stabs. AND caldari has the ability to fit lots of ewar, and able to effeciently NPC. The recent EANM nerf has hurt some gallente ships so hard also. I dont see Invuls getting nerfd, even though they give a 30% bonus!!!, EANM's gives 20%. Also, people saying the Dominix is overpowerd, with max skills it does 475 dps and some nos, whilst the raven gets 800 dps!!! and a good tank, why ccp! Also gallente is crap at range, where caldari + minmatar + amarr is way better. U need to be close range to be good and u take lots of damage whilst getting in range, and even when u are range, your dps isnt much unless u have gimped your tank severly, and gallente ships has big fitting problem ( domi 9k pg!) So why ccp? Dont like french ( gallente )? PLEASE FIX GALLENTE. Just a few facts you for get about. 1) it doesnt matter how many bcu's u put on a raven its never gonna get close to the megathrons damage capabilities 2) yes damage mods take low slots but tackling gear, mwd and cap booster are way more eccencial to pvp than any thing else, with a pvp fitting a raven has 2 slots for tank while a gank mega with 3 damage mods has 4 for tank left while also boosting its damage potentials over 1200dps, so double the tank and double the tank how is that fair? 3) dominix is way capabile of doing +1000 dps but of caurse if u dont fit any guns your gonna have a lack in damage doohh. But you are underestimating the power of nos. Since you clearly dont know im gonna explain to you in a simple way, Nos draines cap even though npcs dont player ships depend on cap for their tank so if u nos all the cap away wich 4 med nos and 2 heavy nos as gonna do( they add upto 44 cap drained per second). So when your opponent doesnt have any tank it doesnt matter if u have 400 dps or 800 dps its only a matter of time till he dies doesnt really matter if its 20 sec or 40 sec. 4) Ffs when are ppl gonna get it that invu's are active hardeners and eanm's are passive that with the 20% extra res armor gets explains the diffrence also that 20% goes to 24 with skills so. 5) Range doesnt gimp gallente at all, in 1 vs 1 you only have the 24km to play with. Look at the stats for Large blasters. And for fleet pvp their is no arguing that caldari are the most gimped with their 40 second delay in dmg, but since fleet battles happen mostly at 200-150km wich the mega can easely handle it isnt a problem for them. 6) for pve Raven is the king and always will be the king but the domi follows up close with its drones not using cap or ammo and its huge tank leaving highs to extra dmg or salvage and tractor beams to speed things up. the mega with its shear dmg also isnt that bad. Please get a dictionary and search for the word fact it might help you alot knowing what its about before starting a thread like this. -Please excuse my bad english grammar and spelling- In other words RABBLERABBLERABBLE U're not making any sense Bottom line is, caldari is overpowerd and gallente should get a boost ______________________________________________ some guy telling a noob that pirates doesnt check their age before attacking "ooh! an age quip! very clever,I'm probably older than you darling! xx
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.07.16 22:08:00 - [78] Epic fail.
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities	Posted - 2007.07.16 23:14:00 - [79] lmaaaoooo has made it into my sig. Originally by: LMAAAOOOO iteron mark v is good cos it can fit a gun and can fit lots of ammo same time
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 23:27:00 - [80] Edited by: LMAAAOOOO on 16/07/2007 23:28:28 Originally by: murder one lmaaaoooo has made it into my sig. Im now famous! And so are you! ( You were already though ) Everytime I whinge about Gallente, people will be reminded of you! _______________________________________________ Originally by: murder one lmaaaoooo has made it into my sig.
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities	Posted - 2007.07.16 23:37:00 - [81] Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Edited by: LMAAAOOOO on 16/07/2007 23:28:28 Originally by: murder one lmaaaoooo has made it into my sig. Im now famous! And so are you! ( You were already though ) Everytime I whinge about Gallente, people will be reminded of you! While your enthusiasm is commendable, your efforts are flawed by your lack of understanding of the game's design. Your arguments don't make much sense, even if you may be correct with some of your end assumptions. Caldari are more -efficient- with cap use as they need to cap for their weapons, can change damage type at will, hit for full damage with any damage type, all while effectively ignoring tracking and range. They are the only race with the option of ignoring ECM and damps (fofs). Shield tanking can tank the highest peak DPS in the game, bar none. Raw DPS numbers mean nothing. Effective DPS is what counts- how much DPS you can actually do to a tanked target. Once you factor in resists, the DPS of a Raven is much more evenly matched with other battleships, as it can tailor it's damage type to each target's tank (as an example). You (lmaaooo) are not doing Gallente pilots any favors by making threads that bring up arguments without sensible reasoning and structure and some worthwile information to back up your assumptions. Originally by: LMAAAOOOO iteron mark v is good cos it can fit a gun and can fit lots of ammo same time
William Hamilton Caldari THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.07.16 23:47:00 - [82] Originally by: murder one [...] and damps (fofs). [...] /nitpick: FoF missiles don't work beyond locking range.
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities	Posted - 2007.07.16 23:49:00 - [83] Originally by: William Hamilton Originally by: murder one [...] and damps (fofs). [...] /nitpick: FoF missiles don't work beyond locking range. Original locking range, not current locking range. Originally by: LMAAAOOOO iteron mark v is good cos it can fit a gun and can fit lots of ammo same time
Liang Nuren The Refugees	Posted - 2007.07.16 23:54:00 - [84] Originally by: murder one Originally by: William Hamilton Originally by: murder one [...] and damps (fofs). [...] /nitpick: FoF missiles don't work beyond locking range. Original locking range, not current locking range. Speaks the truth ... fof missiles and drones suck for damper ships. Liang Originally by: "QproQ" When people say "Put 'stabs on your 'cane", they mean GYROSTABS"
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.16 23:54:00 - [85] Originally by: murder one Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Edited by: LMAAAOOOO on 16/07/2007 23:28:28 Originally by: murder one lmaaaoooo has made it into my sig. Im now famous! And so are you! ( You were already though ) Everytime I whinge about Gallente, people will be reminded of you! While your enthusiasm is commendable, your efforts are flawed by your lack of understanding of the game's design. Your arguments don't make much sense, even if you may be correct with some of your end assumptions. Caldari are more -efficient- with cap use as they need to cap for their weapons, can change damage type at will, hit for full damage with any damage type, all while effectively ignoring tracking and range. They are the only race with the option of ignoring ECM and damps (fofs). Shield tanking can tank the highest peak DPS in the game, bar none. Raw DPS numbers mean nothing. Effective DPS is what counts- how much DPS you can actually do to a tanked target. Once you factor in resists, the DPS of a Raven is much more evenly matched with other battleships, as it can tailor it's damage type to each target's tank (as an example). You (lmaaooo) are not doing Gallente pilots any favors by making threads that bring up arguments without sensible reasoning and structure and some worthwile information to back up your assumptions. QFT! Nerf caldari boost gallente! _______________________________________________ Originally by: murder one lmaaaoooo has made it into my sig.
Liang Nuren The Refugees	Posted - 2007.07.17 00:03:00 - [86] <humoring the troll> It really sucks that Caldari can pick on my explosive hole in my armor... and that stabbers can outrun my gank brutix and eventaully kill me. They don't even have to get into web range to kill me. Nerf Minmatar and Caldari. </humoring the troll> Liang Originally by: "QproQ" When people say "Put 'stabs on your 'cane", they mean GYROSTABS"
Neuromandis	Posted - 2007.07.17 00:05:00 - [87] Originally by: William Hamilton Originally by: murder one [...] and damps (fofs). [...] /nitpick: FoF missiles don't work beyond locking range. hmmm... No, they don't work beyond the ships locking range BEFORE DAMPENERS. Thank god. Dampeners don't defeat fofs. --- If someone else from my Corporation or Alliance agrees with me, he will say so. Assume nobody does :) --- WTB: Scorpion wing (left)
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.17 00:05:00 - [88] Originally by: Liang Nuren <humoring the troll> It really sucks that Caldari can pick on my explosive hole in my armor... and that stabbers can outrun my gank brutix and eventaully kill me. They don't even have to get into web range to kill me. Nerf Minmatar and Caldari. </humoring the troll> Liang True, apart from the troll part Im a human being _______________________________________________ Originally by: murder one lmaaaoooo has made it into my sig.
William Hamilton Caldari THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.07.17 00:07:00 - [89] Wow, realy! So they're slightly more usefull than I thaught they were! (goes to train FoF missiles skill)
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.17 00:18:00 - [90] Originally by: Incantare Murder one you bring up many of Caldari's and missile's advantages but not their accompanying flaws. Originally by: murder one Caldari are more -efficient- with cap use as they need to cap for their weapons, can change damage type at will, hit for full damage with any damage type, all while effectively ignoring tracking and range. They are more efficient with cap yes, but they get less base cap than Gallente and far less than Amarr to compensate, as they should. They can change damage type but raw missile damage is lower than turret's after bonus. Now as you mention it is effective damage that counts and the ships with a RoF bonus are free to chose damage type, the Raven is the only t1 Caldari ship that can, the ships with kinetic bonuses generally have a handicap to their effective damage even when using other damage types against other ships in their class. They hit for full damage after taking into account velocity / signature radius, which is a disadvantage comparable to tracking. While it is true that missiles do not track and have no care for range, missile boats due to their high mass and low speed cannot dictate range or maneuver to compensate for tracking like other races' turret boats can. Caldari gunboats cannot fit a web to negate tracking without cutting into their tank like Gallente can. Quote: They are the only race with the option of ignoring ECM and damps (fofs). Shield tanking can tank the highest peak DPS in the game, bar none. Raw DPS numbers mean nothing. Effective DPS is what counts- how much DPS you can actually do to a tanked target. Once you factor in resists, the DPS of a Raven is much more evenly matched with other battleships, as it can tailor it's damage type to each target's tank (as an example). Drones work when damped or jammed as well, and while you cannot order them to attack a specific target you cannot pick targets with FOFs either. Shield tanks have the highest peak dps tanked, true, but they are much harder to sustain and take med slots which is a significant disadvantage. As for the Raven while RoF is a great bonus missile velocity only compensates for a disadvantage of missiles and is nearly irrelevant at short range. Shield tanked turret ships like the Rokh and Mael which have two excellent bonuses and high damage are generally much more effective. Additionally missiles are near worthless at long ranges due to flight time. Regardless of all the theoretical advantages and disadvantages when you look at the performance of missile ships today compared to turret ships in PvP they are very limited in their usefulness. The ones that can speed tank being the exception. In other words rabble rabble rabble u are comparing oranges to apples ! and this is why we should nerf caldari and boost gallente _______________________________________________ Originally by: murder one lmaaaoooo has made it into my sig.
Incantare Caldari Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.17 00:21:00 - [91] Originally by: LMAAAOOOO In other words rabble rabble rabble u are comparing oranges to apples ! and this is why we should nerf caldari and boost gallente Rabble.
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.17 00:28:00 - [92] Originally by: Incantare Originally by: LMAAAOOOO In other words rabble rabble rabble u are comparing oranges to apples ! and this is why we should nerf caldari and boost gallente Rabble. rabble rabble rabble _______________________________________________ Originally by: murder one lmaaaoooo has made it into my sig.
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.17 00:34:00 - [93] Taken from another topic that totally makes sense And you know what else really bothers me, the Skin on an Orange is really thick, you have to take it off before you eat the Orange, but Apples have a nice thin skin that you can eat. And Apples have all the seeds located in the center so you know exactly where to find them, Oranges have the seeds scattered all over the place. And another thing, when you go to make juice from an Orange you end up with all that pulp, you just don't get that with an Apple. And when you get an Apple you almost always automatically get a cool stem with it, you almost never get that with an Orange. Perhaps it is hard for me to look at this issue to seriously since I don't have "Ignore hard facts" trained all the way up to 5 yet I guess I could take the time to train up all the skills that I need to deal with the flaws I found with the Orange, but it takes so long to train all the separate skills that you need. I'd much rather just grab an Apple which takes so much less training and effort to fly... errr... eat. _______________________________________________ Originally by: murder one lmaaaoooo has made it into my sig.
Incantare Caldari Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.17 00:39:00 - [94] Taken from this topic which totally makes sense: rabble rabble rabble Rabble?
Liang Nuren The Refugees	Posted - 2007.07.17 00:40:00 - [95] rabble rabble rabble. And rabble some more... You know, in King's Quest, there was a troll under every bridge. Liang Originally by: "QproQ" When people say "Put 'stabs on your 'cane", they mean GYROSTABS"
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.17 00:40:00 - [96] Originally by: Incantare Taken from this topic which totally makes sense: rabble rabble rabble Rabble? Hmm, boost gallente ? _______________________________________________ Originally by: murder one lmaaaoooo has made it into my sig.
Incantare Caldari Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.17 00:42:00 - [97] Nerf Amarr ? Caldari too.
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.17 00:44:00 - [98] Originally by: Incantare Nerf Amarr ? Caldari too. and minmatar _______________________________________________ Originally by: murder one lmaaaoooo has made it into my sig.
Liang Nuren The Refugees	Posted - 2007.07.17 00:44:00 - [99] They should nerf BCU's ... and Heat Sinks just for good measure. Then they should nerf shield extenders and boosters. What a waste. Liang Originally by: "QproQ" When people say "Put 'stabs on your 'cane", they mean GYROSTABS"
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.17 00:45:00 - [100] Originally by: Liang Nuren They should nerf BCU's ... and Heat Sinks just for good measure. Then they should nerf shield extenders and boosters. What a waste. Liang yea and double how much LAR reps....cause x-large sb takes 1 slot, and a LAR reps 1/2 as much!! _______________________________________________ Originally by: murder one lmaaaoooo has made it into my sig.
Liang Nuren The Refugees	Posted - 2007.07.17 00:47:00 - [101] Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Originally by: Liang Nuren They should nerf BCU's ... and Heat Sinks just for good measure. Then they should nerf shield extenders and boosters. What a waste. Liang yea and double how much LAR reps....cause x-large sb takes 1 slot, and a LAR reps 1/2 as much!! And they should make shield boost amps low slot items so that it competes with damage mods and makes Caldari tanks more effective without sacrificing mids... whoops, wrong thread. I mean, they should make all caldari ships only have missile slots. That'd show them! Liang Originally by: "QproQ" When people say "Put 'stabs on your 'cane", they mean GYROSTABS"
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.17 00:49:00 - [102] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Originally by: Liang Nuren They should nerf BCU's ... and Heat Sinks just for good measure. Then they should nerf shield extenders and boosters. What a waste. Liang yea and double how much LAR reps....cause x-large sb takes 1 slot, and a LAR reps 1/2 as much!! And they should make shield boost amps low slot items so that it competes with damage mods and makes Caldari tanks more effective without sacrificing mids... whoops, wrong thread. I mean, they should make all caldari ships only have missile slots. That'd show them! Liang This is a gallente boost thread, not caldari Get out of my thread MY PROPERTY _______________________________________________ Originally by: murder one lmaaaoooo has made it into my sig.
Liang Nuren The Refugees	Posted - 2007.07.17 00:51:00 - [103] Man, and I thought I'd killed the thread 2 pages ago... Originally by: "QproQ" When people say "Put 'stabs on your 'cane", they mean GYROSTABS"
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.17 00:53:00 - [104] Originally by: Liang Nuren Man, and I thought I'd killed the thread 2 pages ago... GTFO _______________________________________________ Originally by: murder one lmaaaoooo has made it into my sig.
Messingaround	Posted - 2007.07.17 00:56:00 - [105] Most amusing thread I've read today. The opening post alone is comedy gold... oh boy. LMAAAOOOO, try logging on your main, research for a few hours, and maybe people will start taking you seriously. Of course, threads like this wouldn't exist in the first place. In honor of you, though, I am hereby posting with my alt.
Liang Nuren The Refugees	Posted - 2007.07.17 00:56:00 - [106] Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Originally by: Liang Nuren Man, and I thought I'd killed the thread 2 pages ago... GTFO Boost Gallente? Liang Originally by: "QproQ" When people say "Put 'stabs on your 'cane", they mean GYROSTABS"
Incantare Caldari Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.17 00:56:00 - [107] LMAAAOOOO stirred it back into carefully thought out, strong, convincing arguments as to why Caldari should be nerfed. One thing though LMAAAOOOO I didn't see you mention missiles hit every time. Needs a nerf, it's really unfair.
Liang Nuren The Refugees	Posted - 2007.07.17 00:59:00 - [108] Originally by: Incantare LMAAAOOOO stirred it back into carefully thought out, strong, convincing arguments as to why Caldari should be nerfed. One thing though LMAAAOOOO I didn't see you mention missiles hit every time. Needs a nerf, it's really unfair. And missiles should only do no damage... I mean, EM damage. Liang Originally by: "QproQ" When people say "Put 'stabs on your 'cane", they mean GYROSTABS"
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.17 01:12:00 - [109] Originally by: Messingaround Most amusing thread I've read today. The opening post alone is comedy gold... oh boy. LMAAAOOOO, try logging on your main, research for a few hours, and maybe people will start taking you seriously. Of course, threads like this wouldn't exist in the first place. In honor of you, though, I am hereby posting with my alt. Your alts name has something to do with what I am doing. _______________________________________________ Originally by: murder one lmaaaoooo has made it into my sig.
Liang Nuren The Refugees	Posted - 2007.07.17 01:14:00 - [110] Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Originally by: Messingaround Most amusing thread I've read today. The opening post alone is comedy gold... oh boy. LMAAAOOOO, try logging on your main, research for a few hours, and maybe people will start taking you seriously. Of course, threads like this wouldn't exist in the first place. In honor of you, though, I am hereby posting with my alt. Your alts name has something to do with what I am doing. TBH, its a terrible way to make a point. It's amusing though... and I definitely agree that there's enough threads on the topic. Liang Originally by: "QproQ" When people say "Put 'stabs on your 'cane", they mean GYROSTABS"
Bradstone	Posted - 2007.07.17 01:27:00 - [111] Edited by: Bradstone on 17/07/2007 01:28:04 wow this is one amazing post lol... had the best laugh for a long time I did find something that maybe of interest early on in reading... The comparison of the Domi V the raven... the Domi being a Tier 1 ship and the raven being a Tier 2 ship... I've been playing eve for a long while now, and if anyone has the fitting for a normal raven (not navy) which can do 800 dps and still have a better shield tank then an armour tanker i want it now! whatÆs the point in faction mods if you can do that with a normal raven I have resently joined the dark side which is gallente, and so far and I am very pleased, amazing damage output, and with the right fitting a fair tank to rival some Caldari versions. But there is a word i would not use when describing Caldari and Gallente and that would be "overpowered". It seems this word is appearing a lot in forums these days, and it seems its the people who get mixed up with comparing tier 1 ships to tier 2, the differences quite... large... It also seems to be people who forget that skill not only in knowledge but in skill points also is a major factor. Its seems that people who cant brake the tank of another ship call it overpowered when in fact the pilot simply could be better then them or have a different approach. At the end of the day, we are in a world with different empires, and like in real life i seriously donÆt think that all empires are going to have same weapons and ships. Although some of your points maybe interesting, the way in which replies are treated with in a manner which is sometimes uncalled for, give this thread its comic touch, in a odd, get out my face kind of way I sure hope this is the last thread with ôoverpoweredö being its catch phraseà Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.17 01:32:00 - [112] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: LMAAAOOOO Originally by: Messingaround Most amusing thread I've read today. The opening post alone is comedy gold... oh boy. LMAAAOOOO, try logging on your main, research for a few hours, and maybe people will start taking you seriously. Of course, threads like this wouldn't exist in the first place. In honor of you, though, I am hereby posting with my alt. Your alts name has something to do with what I am doing. TBH, its a terrible way to make a point. It's amusing though... and I definitely agree that there's enough threads on the topic. Liang True, I didn't put much thought into it, I was just looking for a chuckle, but it did encourage people to post their opinions regarding how Caldari stands in pvp, which made sense. _______________________________________________ Originally by: murder one lmaaaoooo has made it into my sig.
Neuromandis	Posted - 2007.07.17 15:21:00 - [113] Originally by: LMAAAOOOO True, I didn't put much thought into it, I was just looking for a chuckle Well, I had a lot more thn a chuckle. Thanks, you actually made my day :) --- If someone else from my Corporation or Alliance agrees with me, he will say so. Assume nobody does :) --- WTB: Scorpion wing (left)

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