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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.17 08:57:00 -
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Hi,
a while ago there was an announcement somewhere, that soon there won't be any killmails but you can see that kill statistics/data in the character info of a character, making killboards etc. obsolete.
What's the status of this ? Will we see it in near future, or did the devs give it up due some whining "counterstrike mentality bla bla" back then, when this feature was announced `?
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Ulii
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Posted - 2007.07.17 09:02:00 -
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hopefully they stop all this massageing of peoples epeen and trashed the idea AND killmails
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ToxicFire
Phoenix Knights
Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.07.17 09:07:00 -
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Only if they start counting scams, ore stealing, conning etc... all pvp or no pvp records at all
Sig removed as it lacks EVE-related content. Mail [email protected] if you have questions. -Hango
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Kesh McCall
Caldari
Universal - Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.17 09:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Hi,
a while ago there was an announcement somewhere, that soon there won't be any killmails but you can see that kill statistics/data in the character info of a character, making killboards etc. obsolete.
What's the status of this ? Will we see it in near future, or did the devs give it up due some whining "counterstrike mentality bla bla" back then, when this feature was announced `?
There wasn't any anouncement like that. However there was a couple of posts of players demanded this. It was flamed to death and burried.
Move along nothing to see here
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
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Alrich
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Posted - 2007.07.17 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: ToxicFire
Only if they start counting scams, ore stealing, conning etc... all pvp or no pvp records at all
and undercutting on the market. prise dumping. and other such horrible acts of commerse
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Darius Shakor
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.07.17 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kesh McCall
Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Hi,
a while ago there was an announcement somewhere, that soon there won't be any killmails but you can see that kill statistics/data in the character info of a character, making killboards etc. obsolete.
What's the status of this ? Will we see it in near future, or did the devs give it up due some whining "counterstrike mentality bla bla" back then, when this feature was announced `?
There wasn't any anouncement like that. However there was a couple of posts of players demanded this. It was flamed to death and burried.
Move along nothing to see here
It was mentioned by the devs in a live dev blog. I think it was the first one.
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Nicholas Barker
MASS
Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2007.07.17 10:00:00 -
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what ever happened to medals?
some of my mates who played them ****ty web browser games played "outwar" and found a clan that had a guy with a medal that said "First clan member to lose virginity", we all had a good laugh.
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Svanna Gulmi
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Posted - 2007.07.17 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: Alrich
Originally by: ToxicFire
Only if they start counting scams, ore stealing, conning etc... all pvp or no pvp records at all
and undercutting on the market. prise dumping. and other such horrible acts of commerse
LOL Can't get your buy orders complete? There is the quick and the poor in eve trade
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Necronomicon
Caldari
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.17 10:40:00 -
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Get rid of killmails or an equivilent, and you kill not only the merc industry, but also any meaningful way to gauge damage sustained in any conflict. Like it or not, stats are required in a competitive game such as eve, or it all becomes meaningless.
My idea was to have a kill server within CCP that provides RSS feeds to whoever wants it. One single DB of kills/losses, no more mails, no sneaking out of not posting losses as it is all automated.
Carlsberg dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them.
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DeadRow
Magnificent Beavers
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.07.17 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Necronomicon
Get rid of killmails or an equivilent, and you kill not only the merc industry, but also any meaningful way to gauge damage sustained in any conflict. Like it or not, stats are required in a competitive game such as eve, or it all becomes meaningless.
My idea was to have a kill server within CCP that provides RSS feeds to whoever wants it. One single DB of kills/losses, no more mails, no sneaking out of not posting losses as it is all automated.
That'd be cool.
And hey neccy o//
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2007.07.17 11:52:00 -
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I'd just send an alt into 0.0 repeatedly for me to kill.
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max bygraves
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Posted - 2007.07.17 12:01:00 -
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tbh they shud just stop killmails and all forms of CS type e peen whoring.
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Cpt Branko
Guardian Heroes
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Posted - 2007.07.17 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: max bygraves
tbh they shud just stop killmails and all forms of CS type e peen whoring.
This would be just stupid. W/out killmails, I don't know what my enemy was fitting and what he lost.
Killmails provide information that I, basically, need.
By the way, no killmails (without a replacement system, at least) would be a devastating blow to merc corps, and would be a significant problem judging damage you did during wartime to see how are you doing.
Killboards are great, because you can see what the people who're wardeccing you fly, what pilots they have, how good are they, and so on. They provide a wealth of information. ;)
You're just mad because you're a victim on a lot of killboards. Don't ask for removal of useful features because you got ganked and someone is showing off the killmail ;P
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Auldare
Path-finder
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Posted - 2007.07.17 12:15:00 -
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Mercs were in EVE way before people started using killboards.
The only addition killboards ever made was to make it possible for people to look up ships others use and the areas they are active in at the time. This kind of intel should all take place within game.
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Jojo Yohan
Gallente
Cskillzone
DAMAGE INC...
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Posted - 2007.07.17 12:59:00 -
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I thought that they were working on a replacement that instead of sending you an eve-mail, would put the contents of the kill mail into a concord module that you could look at later in order to reduce the lag.
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R3dSh1ft
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.07.17 13:06:00 -
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This would be a good thing with the new exporting abilities the eve-online site has. No need to post killmails as all data could be exported, I doubt the functionality of seeing destroyed modules, or involved parties/weapons would be removed.
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R3dSh1ft
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.07.17 13:06:00 -
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This would be a good thing with the new exporting abilities the eve-online site has. No need to post killmails as all data could be exported, I doubt the functionality of seeing destroyed modules, or involved parties/weapons would be removed.
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Icarus Starkiller
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.07.17 13:25:00 -
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Removal of third-party killboards by internalizing the conflict between pilots in space (i.e. combat, not market manipulation) would be a wonderful thing.... but not as everyone has thus far proposed it.
There should be two distinct degrees of information access: Corporat (or alliance), and non-accessing agents.
In other words:
If you look up some random name and pull up their kill stats, you can see who was killed, what they were flying, where it happened, and how many other pilots were involved in that particular kill.
If you're in the corporation of said pilot you would get the full killmail details as we have them now. The who (all of them), the what, the where, and the total loss for that kill.
Alliances would have the ability to set their corporations able to view the detailed info of their entire alliance, or not. Likewise corporate directors would be able to allow their members the same degree of information, or not, by role just as they can now do so with hangars.
THAT is how an integrated kill tracking system would and should work.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.17 13:36:00 -
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putting it in your profile wont work
should never work
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.17 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron
I'd just send an alt into 0.0 repeatedly for me to kill.
Yes but then your stats would show: killed xxx noob ships, not very sexy, and on a closer look everyone would see its always the same guy.
Killmails and killboards are important. For example people from the pvp division of a corp can show their corp that they are doing what the corp is expecting them to do.
And such a personal statistic would be even better, expcecially if you are in a small corp without killboard. No 10232 diffrent killboard, no fakemails etc.
There will be additional people to go out and do pvp in order to have a nice statistics, i think this can't be bad for the game.
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Nicho Void
Gallente
Hyper-Nova
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Posted - 2007.07.17 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: max bygraves
tbh they shud just stop killmails and all forms of CS type e peen whoring.
This would be just stupid. W/out killmails, I don't know what my enemy was fitting and what he lost.
Killmails provide information that I, basically, need.
By the way, no killmails (without a replacement system, at least) would be a devastating blow to merc corps, and would be a significant problem judging damage you did during wartime to see how are you doing.
Killboards are great, because you can see what the people who're wardeccing you fly, what pilots they have, how good are they, and so on. They provide a wealth of information. ;)
You're just mad because you're a victim on a lot of killboards. Don't ask for removal of useful features because you got ganked and someone is showing off the killmail ;P
All of which would be better without killmails. You want to find out what someone is fitting? You loot his wreck. You want to know what an war dec'ed corp is flying? You do some recon. You want to brag to your friends that you popped a Navy Raven? Take a ******* screenshot.
I'm on board with the anti e-peen movement. Remove killmails and stats all together.
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Splagada
Minmatar
Tides of Silence
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.17 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Nicho Void
All of which would be better without killmails. You want to find out what someone is fitting? You loot his wreck. You want to know what an war dec'ed corp is flying? You do some recon. You want to brag to your friends that you popped a Navy Raven? Take a ******* screenshot.
I'm on board with the anti e-peen movement. Remove killmails and stats all together.
call me nerdish but without any epeen thing, i find the killboards entertaining while at work :p
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J'Mkarr Soban
Amarr
Shadows of the Dead
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.17 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Splagada
Originally by: Nicho Void
All of which would be better without killmails. You want to find out what someone is fitting? You loot his wreck. You want to know what an war dec'ed corp is flying? You do some recon. You want to brag to your friends that you popped a Navy Raven? Take a ******* screenshot.
I'm on board with the anti e-peen movement. Remove killmails and stats all together.
You're work must be exceedingly dull for you to find reading killmails as entertaining o.o
call me nerdish but without any epeen thing, i find the killboards entertaining while at work :p
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Chrysalis D'lilth
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Posted - 2007.07.17 14:43:00 -
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Not a bad idea,
I just think it should remain on the back bench until major playability issues (i.e. lag/desynch) are resolved first.
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Barbarellas Daughter
Lonely Barbarella
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Posted - 2007.07.17 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: max bygraves
tbh they shud just stop killmails and all forms of CS type e peen whoring.
This would be just stupid. W/out killmails, I don't know what my enemy was fitting and what he lost.
Killmails provide information that I, basically, need.
By the way, no killmails (without a replacement system, at least) would be a devastating blow to merc corps, and would be a significant problem judging damage you did during wartime to see how are you doing.
Killboards are great, because you can see what the people who're wardeccing you fly, what pilots they have, how good are they, and so on. They provide a wealth of information. ;)
You're just mad because you're a victim on a lot of killboards. Don't ask for removal of useful features because you got ganked and someone is showing off the killmail ;P
just go out and fight them. soon you will see if they are good. no need to look on killmails for that.
people will have alts for the stats and alts for the fun. alts with good stats will be made for selling them so a former carebear gets attention. killmails are just stupid. if you want to know how people fit their ships, ask them ;)
i really dont know whats so hot about them. i dont fit my ship for pilot XY if he comes at a certain time to a certain place. if hes smart he switches fittings or ships. if hes not you can kill him with a "standard" fitting.
where do you engage these pilots? in your home system? so you will always have more than 1 ship to fight him. no need for a special fitting. in his system? good luck to find him online and engaging you.
i think you need killmails to copy fittings from good pilots. but that shouldnt be the purpose of killmails.
kill killmails and let the epeeners play cs!
will new players go to lowsec if they have to fear the shrinking of their epeens? will fleets engage more often?
killmails are made for people who cant fit ships on their own or like to chitchat about (hostile) fittings rather then to actually fit a ship and fight.
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BluOrange
Gallente
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.07.17 15:47:00 -
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I consider killmails, killboards, and the politics that surrounds them to be valuable parts of the game. Somehow, it seems important to me that we have things to fight over and disagree about. Killmails and killboards generate all kinds of interesting politics.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.07.17 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: BluOrange
I consider killmails, killboards, and the politics that surrounds them to be valuable parts of the game. Somehow, it seems important to me that we have things to fight over and disagree about. Killmails and killboards generate all kinds of interesting politics.
Doesnt have to be killmails, but some kind of record of a kill is good for the game. It may be in any form, doesnt have to be mails. :)
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Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.17 16:05:00 -
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I remember seeing in a devblog that CCP was thinking in implementing an ELO-style ranking for the faction wars.
dunno if they scrapped the idea tho.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2007.07.17 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
I remember seeing in a devblog that CCP was thinking in implementing an ELO-style ranking for the faction wars.
dunno if they scrapped the idea tho.
A whatnow?
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.07.17 17:03:00 -
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I just want an in-game killboar that is 100% accurate so i can review stats. I like killboards and think they bring a lot to the game. It is a shame players have to run them on their own, especially since they are never 100% accurate.
People who don't like killboards and PvP stats and people who suck at PvP.
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