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Xtoveruss
Viziam
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.18 07:48:00 -
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moon distribution
look at how many thullium moon there are in eve. Its the rarest moongoo ingame yet it has the lowest price.... it only can go up!! |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
136
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Posted - 2012.01.18 11:03:00 -
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Xtoveruss wrote:moon distributionlook at how many thullium moon there are in eve. Its the rarest moongoo ingame yet it has the lowest price.... it only can go up!!
There's a candle bar called "hanging man" and one called "gravestone". They are those that happen when someone gets outplayed at the markets and is left with a bunch of overpriced, useless stock. |
Max Flipper
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.01.18 12:28:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Xtoveruss wrote:moon distributionlook at how many thullium moon there are in eve. Its the rarest moongoo ingame yet it has the lowest price.... it only can go up!! There's a candle bar called "hanging man" and one called "gravestone". They are those that happen when someone gets outplayed at the markets and is left with a bunch of overpriced, useless stock.
Can you link an example? If you feel like you could label it with "Xtoveruss".
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
136
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Posted - 2012.01.18 14:03:00 -
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Max Flipper wrote:
Can you link an example? If you feel like you could label it with "Xtoveruss".
Hanging man
Gravestone
Notice that in modern western notation they are respectively more known as Inverse Pin Bar (IPB) and Pin Bar (PB). |
Nex apparatu5
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
148
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Posted - 2012.01.18 21:33:00 -
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It's nearly tripled in price and is still rising.
Buy now before it hits 10k/unit |
Grey Stormshadow
draketrain
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
777
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Posted - 2012.01.18 22:50:00 -
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It is a scam - sell fast!
Get |
Kagan Storm
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
45
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Posted - 2012.01.18 23:53:00 -
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You both wrong
SEND IT TO ME
Waffles 
My ego is the the size of my carriers jump range.
If i comment on your post you are probably not smart and should go back to playing WoW. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
143
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Posted - 2012.01.19 19:00:00 -
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Max Flipper wrote:
Can you link an example? If you feel like you could label it with "Xtoveruss".
Ok I had some minutes to provide you a graph showing the Thullium price and how even with just the EvE market graph you can gauge what's going on in a market. I will not cover the many other aspects you can easily extrapolate from the graph, they are covered in detail here.
Despite the fact that EvE graphs are not proper candle bars, the price "yellow dots" upper and lower "barbs" may be approximately read as such. It's of paramount importance noticing that context is all. Therefore the same identical candle could be useless when located in the middle of a range, could say "market exhaustion" at the top of a trend but also "time to buy" if at the bottom.
How to read the graph:
I marked the "gravestone doji" bars with "1", in purple. In EvE we don't have candle "bodies" otherwise we could further separate the real gravestone dojis (thin to null body) from the "shooting stars" (small body). They tell somewhat different stories.
I marked the "hanging man" bars with "2", in cyan.
I marked a bar with "3" (green) that really seems an hanging man but it's not. The context (at the local bottom of price) tells it's a so called "hammer". In modern analysis it's known as "continuity pin bar".
Detailed explanation:
1) Gravestone dojis and shooting stars are still pin bars (confusing, eh?) that show *inversion*. How do you know? Simple. They are above previous bars and their "upper barb" (known as shadow) is very long, indicating lots of sellers => strongly going against the rising trend => possible inversion.
Expecially "tall" bars (taller than the ones right before them) enforce the probability of inversion. This is the case of the first bar. In most cases these bars are not tall and thus they cannot be trusted to safely invert price (therefore we need a so called retracement, covered in other threads of mine).
See the second bar of this family? It's tiny and unusable to go short without a further confirmation.
TLDR: when you see something like these candles at the top of the high of price, you might want to sell.
2) Hanging men are easier to check, they are usually weak-ish bars at the top of price. They exactly represent the guys who read the forums and bought at the top of the price despite price was beginning to fall (the lower "barb", known as shadow).
The two cyan examples require no further explanation, easily spotted. The Donchian Channel makes them even easier to spot, they touch it on the upper limit.
3) That is a proper "hammer". Still a pin bar but context says it's at a local low. The position of its shadow (below) tells that there are many buyers pushing up and this pushing is concord with the ascending trend => continuity bar.
In a RL market a quite daring trader would have bought it for profit. He'd put the stop loss below it (white line marked as "4") and the first take profit at the next important price level (the one right on top of it, usually deducted by a past price stopping there). In the subsequent days, price would fall instead of rising but - as it's known - a pin bar is valid until no other bar goes below the tail (this is why the stop loss is there, in case the candle is invalidated it means you did not understand the market and should really leave it).
Therefore that trader would have stayed in the market and price would have risen (arrow marked as "5") till that small purple candle marked as "1" would have been reached and thus profit be taken.
Now, this would have been a risky trade (close to the top and right after a big trend inversion bar) and would probably give a very bad risk vs reward but still... it works as example to show what price does. |
Grey Stormshadow
draketrain
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
777
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Posted - 2012.01.19 19:06:00 -
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Sell before it is too late!111
Get |
Grey Stormshadow
draketrain
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
778
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Posted - 2012.01.21 12:19:00 -
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Good! As you see it is starting to crash now! Time to sell like mad cow!-)
Get |
Dawnmist
7
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Posted - 2012.01.22 06:09:00 -
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http://i43.tinypic.com/16jg0u1.jpg
It clearly has been crashing all year ;) |
Kissapasi
Kissapasi Corporation
Paisti Syndicate
11
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Posted - 2012.03.23 19:28:00 -
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Now with the incoming Drone Alloy nerf the need for Thulium will increase tenfold. According to reliable sources Thulium isn't available for mining from new rocks unlike other moon minerals.
Will this raise the profit margin of Thulium from 3000% to 30000%?
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Chevalleis
The Legendary Conquest
110
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Posted - 2012.03.23 19:44:00 -
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No, it will raise it from 3000% to over 9000% |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
73
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Posted - 2012.03.23 20:46:00 -
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Kissapasi wrote:Now with the incoming Drone Alloy nerf the need for Thulium will increase tenfold. According to reliable sources Thulium isn't available for mining from new rocks unlike other moon minerals.
Will this raise the profit margin of Thulium from 3000% to 30000%?
You are literally the worst. |
Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
196
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Posted - 2012.03.24 01:29:00 -
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Well duh the price went up. My high sec ratting isk had to go somewhere.
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Cold Burrito
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2
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Posted - 2012.03.24 01:37:00 -
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I remember the day I went and bought 50M in Thulium just for the heck of it and watched one of those spikes go throug a month later. Fun times. |
Darth Tickles
Northstar Cabal
Fatal Ascension
109
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Posted - 2012.03.24 02:10:00 -
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Ah thulium. Every patch, dev blog, fanfest presentation, dev fart...
I don't even want to imagine the thulium stockpiles out there people have gathered just in case r64s ever actually become balanced. |
Mookie Quantico
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.03.24 15:04:00 -
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Or maybe it had a little something to do with CCP Soundwave's little powerpoint yesterday that showed this massive planetary ring (think: rings of Saturn) panorama -- and the suggestion that maybe the future addition of ring mining will be an alternate source of moon minerals.
Buy early, buy often 
Mook
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Soldarius
United Highsec Front
The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2012.03.25 09:07:00 -
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This thread has been dead for 60 days. Incubation period over. Congrats on a successful necro.
Should ring mining go live, for some reason I don't think those moon goos will be worth quite as much as they are today, barring some sort of actual rebalance to go with it.
"How do you kill that which has no life?" |
Kissapasi
Kissapasi Corporation
Paisti Syndicate
12
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Posted - 2012.04.29 11:20:00 -
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I got some really interesting data from trusted sources.
http://pastebin.com/yDdjuxbm
It says that the new heavy defender missiles and the old light ones have something to do with Thulium.
Will this change affect Thulium price in the long term? |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
211
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Posted - 2012.04.29 14:42:00 -
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Hey look it's the same guy who's popped up with some BS about thulium or another every so often for months. He can't convincingly fake a pastebin, either. |
Illectroculus Defined
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
57
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Posted - 2012.04.29 15:56:00 -
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As manip attempts go this one is about as lame as it comes. |
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