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BluOrange Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 14:35:00 - [1] Today, I kept warping in to the same hopelessly laggy mission (yeah, I'm true to my carebear roots at times) again and again until (when I was at over 40 seconds per frame...) my ship popped. I petitioned it, the customer service was fantastic, this is not a CCP whine thread. Later (when I really ought to be in bed), I'm reading the forums, lying to myself that I'm somehow less addicted because I'm not actually logged in to EVE. And I see really smart guys talking about how EVE has changed from a tactical game to a strategic game, and how chess is a lot less fun if you're a pawn. I think about laggy fleet battles, and the alliance tournament, and the pain and frustration that finds its way onto these forums every single day. Why do we do it? Why did I spend 5 million isk repairing my structure to keep trying to run a mission that was never going to return that much? Why do people spend hours organizing themselves so that they can lag out in fleet battles? And then do it again? Why do people spend hours on fuelling POSes? Why do we play this game at all? Why do we play ANY game at all? Seriously, I want to understand this.
Bio Break	Posted - 2007.07.17 14:38:00 - [2] Lasers! Thats why!
J'Mkarr Soban Amarr Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.17 14:38:00 - [3] Edited by: J''Mkarr Soban on 17/07/2007 14:37:54 To win, obviously :-D I play it for fun. It's the sandbox thing, I can do what I like. I want to become an admiral, I need to work at it. Also, dude, paying for repairs is uncool. Buy a hull repper. EDIT: And yes, OMFG yes, layzors and shiny sheeps.
Darius Shakor Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.07.17 14:41:00 - [4] Don't really have a broad answer for you to cover the philosophical why's of it all... but you pay for repairs? Yes... why do you do that? Hull repairers my good son, hull repairers. ------ Shakor Clan Information Portal
Admiral Shallow Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.07.17 14:42:00 - [5] Edited by: Admiral Shallow on 17/07/2007 14:42:07 Originally by: J'Mkarr Soban I want to become an admiral. Sorry but it takes alot to become an Admiral... I don't think your ready yet Oh and I play this game because atm I have no life BTW You Suck
Haradgrim Caldari The Wild Bunch KA0S Theory	Posted - 2007.07.17 14:46:00 - [6] To be better/achieve dominance over you/he/she/they. plus the pictures are pretty - Haradgrim [-WB-] That.which.does.not.bend.breaks
ry ry StateCorp The State	Posted - 2007.07.17 14:47:00 - [7] to kill some time in the evening.
James Swindle	Posted - 2007.07.17 14:48:00 - [8] The only thing I have to say is that since revalations 2 the lag has really got out of hand. I cant do missions for the most part anymore because as soon as I warp in, the mission just lags and buy the time it un-lags (if thats the correct terms) im in a pod!!! And also PVP is stupidly laggy as well, for example me and a few corp mates were fighting are war targets... it was only 3v6... and it lagged out and i ended up in a pod again. GRRRR...
SiJira	Posted - 2007.07.17 14:49:00 - [9] Originally by: BluOrange Why do we do it? Why did I spend 5 million isk repairing my structure to keep trying to run a mission that was never going to return that much? Why do people spend hours organizing themselves so that they can lag out in fleet battles? And then do it again? Why do people spend hours on fuelling POSes? cause people probably think the 5 minutes of fun they get for 5 hours of work is worth it - or they are just really bad at fast reflex games like CS - probably both Quote: Why do we play this game at all? Why do we play ANY game at all? Seriously, I want to understand this. as for your last two questions you might as well ask why we live - you dont need to raise a family to live - or get so much money that you have extra left over for years to come or even to have a spotless house as a few dust bunnies arent deadly part of it is the need to compete - but then you need to explain the lazy complacent people - boredom and the instilled - need - to do it so playing eve is just that preventing boredom - for some its living out fantasies and for others its stress relief - it can be a social interaction as well ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
Beef Hardslab The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL	Posted - 2007.07.17 14:54:00 - [10] I play games because shooting people in the face IRL is evil. Virtually doing so is a damn good time. Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve: Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
Admiral Shallow Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.07.17 15:02:00 - [11] Originally by: Beef Hardslab I play games because shooting people in the face IRL is illegal. That's better, because if it was legal, im sure we'd all be playing RL Army Men in the streets shooting the **** out of each other and laughing at how much you just pwnd some random guy. Then smack him shouting how uber you are. Only to be taken out by the Mafia blob squad. Then the sequence repeats itself, as the Mafia blob squad gets taken out by tillers chin. And it just turns into the biggest blob wins. BTW You Suck
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.07.17 15:04:00 - [12] Because the game is not all bad. People focus on the negatives and forget the positives. Human nature. --- Originally by: CCP Wrangler You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
BluOrange Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 15:37:00 - [13] Originally by: Jim McGregor Because the game is not all bad. People focus on the negatives and forget the positives. Human nature. I agree. I know the positives must be there, I'm just in a very weird mood, and trying to work out what they are. As far as PVP goes, I think Beef probably has a very valid point, killing people IRL is evil, but we do experience violent urges, and I guess the game is a safe way of expressing those. The thing that really weirds me out (even while I do it) is just how many EVE players have a very active interest in 'working their way up the corporate ladder' as it were. Recruitment FAQ
Beef Hardslab The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL	Posted - 2007.07.17 15:39:00 - [14] Originally by: Admiral Shallow Originally by: Beef Hardslab I play games because shooting people in the face IRL is illegal. That's better, because if it was legal, im sure we'd all be playing RL Army Men in the streets shooting the ** out of each other and laughing at how much you just pwnd some random guy. Then smack him shouting how uber you are. Only to be taken out by the Mafia blob squad. Then the sequence repeats itself, as the Mafia blob squad gets taken out by tillers chin. And it just turns into the biggest blob wins. Legality has never been the issue for me. Even if it were legal to go pwn people, I wouldn't, because it would be evil. I have no qualms about taking someone out in defense of myself or loved ones, but other than that, no, I just wouldn't. Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve: Originally by:** Alliaanna Dalaii Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
BluOrange Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 15:39:00 - [15] Originally by: Darius Shakor Don't really have a broad answer for you to cover the philosophical why's of it all... but you pay for repairs? Yes... why do you do that? Hull repairers my good son, hull repairers. This is what happens when you PVP continuously for a couple of months and forget how to run missions. (Because sitting outside a station in 0.0 while patiently waiting for your hull repairers to do their thing is much funnier than safe.) Recruitment FAQ
BluOrange Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 15:40:00 - [16] Edited by: BluOrange on 17/07/2007 15:40:59 Originally by: SiJira as for your last two questions you might as well ask why we live Yeah, that's the kind of mood I'm in. Quote: - you dont need to raise a family to live - or get so much money that you have extra left over for years to come or even to have a spotless house as a few dust bunnies arent deadly part of it is the need to compete - but then you need to explain the lazy complacent people - boredom and the instilled - need - to do it so playing eve is just that preventing boredom - for some its living out fantasies and for others its stress relief - it can be a social interaction as well Edit: I left that in because I found it interesting. Thanks. Recruitment FAQ
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.07.17 15:44:00 - [17] Originally by: BluOrange The thing that really weirds me out (even while I do it) is just how many EVE players have a very active interest in 'working their way up the corporate ladder' as it were. Humans are a interesting species. We often do things that arent logical because it feels good to do them. Its a tricky thing to combine logic with feelings. Ask Spock. --- Originally by: CCP Wrangler You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
gfldex Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.17 16:32:00 - [18] Originally by: Jim McGregor Ask Spock. How can he tell? He ain't human. Your logic doesn't make any sense. o.0 -- There are countless games in the world. There are at least as many ppl that dont like one or more rules of said games. That never stopped smart game designers from creating good games.
Admiral Shallow Gallente Shadow KnighT Productions	Posted - 2007.07.17 16:58:00 - [19] Originally by: Beef Hardslab Originally by: Admiral Shallow Originally by: Beef Hardslab I play games because shooting people in the face IRL is illegal. That's better, because if it was legal, im sure we'd all be playing RL Army Men in the streets shooting the ** out of each other and laughing at how much you just pwnd some random guy. Then smack him shouting how uber you are. Only to be taken out by the Mafia blob squad. Then the sequence repeats itself, as the Mafia blob squad gets taken out by tillers chin. And it just turns into the biggest blob wins. Legality has never been the issue for me. Even if it were legal to go pwn people, I wouldn't, because it would be evil. I have no qualms about taking someone out in defense of myself or loved ones, but other than that, no, I just wouldn't. Then you would be 1 of the first people to be taken out, seriously if killing was legal you'd be dead already. Nobody would give 2 **s about killing you why should you do it for them. I seriously wouldn't hesitate to blown someones knee caps off if they gave me a good enough reason too. The world is a cruel place. (P.S. I'm not a sick wierdo, i'm just more of an open minded thinker, you would probably hate me if you came to smoke some green lol, the thoughts and talks i get onto lol) BTW You Suck
Trem Sinval Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.17 17:03:00 - [20] The Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything HTH. - Trem
Admiral Shallow Gallente Shadow KnighT Productions	Posted - 2007.07.17 17:05:00 - [21] Originally by: Trem Sinval The Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything HTH. The answer to everything BTW You Suck
Lori Darkhart	Posted - 2007.07.17 17:10:00 - [22] Originally by: Bio Break Lasers! Thats why Not here it isn't -- Lasers are only fun if they're on shark's heads...
Rilder Caldari THC LTD	Posted - 2007.07.17 17:17:00 - [23] Edited by: Rilder on 17/07/2007 17:16:43 Originally by: J'Mkarr Soban I want to become an admiral, To be honest I prefer being the pawn, the meat-shield... though it never seems to work that way and I always end up in leadership positions, bloody gits keep following the motto of, "One Must follow in order to lead" or something. Visit my blog =)http://rilderslog.blogspot.com/
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.07.17 17:17:00 - [24] Originally by: BluOrange Today, I kept warping in to the same hopelessly laggy mission (yeah, I'm true to my carebear roots at times) again and again until (when I was at over 40 seconds per frame...) my ship popped. I petitioned it, the customer service was fantastic, this is not a CCP whine thread. Later (when I really ought to be in bed), I'm reading the forums, lying to myself that I'm somehow less addicted because I'm not actually logged in to EVE. And I see really smart guys talking about how EVE has changed from a tactical game to a strategic game, and how chess is a lot less fun if you're a pawn. I think about laggy fleet battles, and the alliance tournament, and the pain and frustration that finds its way onto these forums every single day. Why do we do it? Why did I spend 5 million isk repairing my structure to keep trying to run a mission that was never going to return that much? Why do people spend hours organizing themselves so that they can lag out in fleet battles? And then do it again? Why do people spend hours on fuelling POSes? Why do we play this game at all? Why do we play ANY game at all? Seriously, I want to understand this. The only one of those I've done is the POS fueling thing, and I did that because dodging gatecamps and marauding gankers in a paper thin ship is a whole game in itself. Not to mention the sense of satisfaction in having my own POS. - I wish I was a three foot female doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes.
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.17 17:23:00 - [25] because i dont lag and i like rubbing peoples faces in it Real turtles tank armor. Real men fly Pink. Nerfageddon
Cookie Snakeoil Industries Ltd.	Posted - 2007.07.17 17:29:00 - [26] Because it's there.
Some Caldari Caldari Mantigen Quanta Ultio Animi Causa	Posted - 2007.07.17 17:31:00 - [27] Because it's the only game where I feel a genuine sense of reief at a uneventful flight. ------------ I'm a guy with a female character get over it, and for god's sake stop jerking off. It's creepy.
Sharupak Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun	Posted - 2007.07.17 17:42:00 - [28] Originally by: Admiral Shallow Originally by: Beef Hardslab I play games because shooting people in the face IRL is illegal. That's better, because if it was legal, im sure we'd all be playing RL Army Men in the streets shooting the **** out of each other and laughing at how much you just pwnd some random guy. Then smack him shouting how uber you are. Only to be taken out by the Mafia blob squad. Then the sequence repeats itself, as the Mafia blob squad gets taken out by tillers chin. And it just turns into the biggest blob wins. Hell yes! You have heard of this country? Where is it and how do I become a citizen!!! _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
Beef Hardslab The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL	Posted - 2007.07.17 17:44:00 - [29] Originally by: Admiral Shallow (P.S. I'm not a sick wierdo, i'm just more of an open minded thinker, you would probably hate me if you came to smoke some green lol, the thoughts and talks i get onto lol) I doubt I'd hate you, there's not many people I could say I hate. Better look out though, I would smoke all your ** and drink all your beer while having ** up conversations. Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve: Originally by:** Alliaanna Dalaii Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
Mari Onette Amarr Gottland Production Transport Mines	Posted - 2007.07.17 18:21:00 - [30] Originally by: Admiral Shallow Then you would be 1 of the first people to be taken out, seriously if killing was legal you'd be dead already. Nobody would give 2 ****s about killing you why should you do it for them. I seriously wouldn't hesitate to blown someones knee caps off if they gave me a good enough reason too. The world is a cruel place. (P.S. I'm not a sick wierdo, i'm just more of an open minded thinker, you would probably hate me if you came to smoke some green lol, the thoughts and talks i get onto lol) And what pray tell, would you blow their kneecaps off with? T2 weapons don't work well in meatspace. I think you need to go outside and socialize more. It will help your curb those violent outbursts that make you look foolish. ------ I am in blood! Stepp'd in so far that, should I wade no more, it would be as tedious as going over. -MacBeth

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